iLife '05
Paul Basnight
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PAUL BASNIGHT
Dave Hinz
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Hey Paul, if you turn off HTML more people will be able to read
your usenet posts.
> Has anyone purchased iLife05 yet?
Nope, but I'm getting it friday.
Richard Kaszeta
> Has anyone purchased iLife05 yet?
Yup. Have my copy installed already. iMovie HD is a big
improvement. iPhoto 5 is a big improvment, although it's RAW file
support seems lousy (and lossy).
Everything else I don't use often enough to have an impression yet.
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Paul Basnight
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Dave Hinz
> Thanks! Let me know if it is worth purchasing.
stuff noising it up, so that worked.
Dave
Scudder
<paul.b...@cox.net> wrote:
> Has anyone purchased iLife05 yet?
Yes. Had it about a week, and I'm very happy. i use GarageBand and
iPhoto 90% of the apps, so I can't really comment on the Movie/DVD
areas.
But the improvements to GarageBand alone are worth $200, never mind the
paltry $79 for the whole package. Additional recording tracks,
transposition, selectable JamPacks in browse, panning curves, locking
tracks are just great. Apple has been listening to users.
And the improvements to iPhoto are very good (for me) too. The
additional editing tools, RAW import, better find tools etc. are
helpful.
new...@jmatt.net
if we non-musical folks had an option to just buy iPhoto without paying
for an app that does a whole bunch of wonderful things that we just
don't need to do.
Dave Hinz
5 for free. In my case, garageband is 80 bucks, and I get iPhoto and
the others for free. And so on.
Of course, you're always free to not buy it.
Dragonmaster Lou
> "Paul Basnight" <paul.b...@cox.net> writes:
>> Has anyone purchased iLife05 yet?
>
> Yup. Have my copy installed already. iMovie HD is a big
> improvement. iPhoto 5 is a big improvment, although it's RAW file
> support seems lousy (and lossy).
Any details on what exactly is wrong with its RAW support?
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Gregory Weston
Dragonmaster Lou <l...@SPAM.ME.AND.DIE.techhouse.org> wrote:
> In article <y6xr7k7...@pomme.me.umn.edu>, Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> > "Paul Basnight" <paul.b...@cox.net> writes:
> >> Has anyone purchased iLife05 yet?
> >
> > Yup. Have my copy installed already. iMovie HD is a big
> > improvement. iPhoto 5 is a big improvment, although it's RAW file
> > support seems lousy (and lossy).
>
> Any details on what exactly is wrong with its RAW support?
From what I've heard, iPhoto's RAW import process involves creating a
JPEG version of the image and showing you that most or all of the time.
I'm not sure if it really keeps track of the RAW file after that.
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Richard Kaszeta
> In article <y6xr7k7...@pomme.me.umn.edu>, Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> > "Paul Basnight" <paul.b...@cox.net> writes:
> >> Has anyone purchased iLife05 yet?
> >
> > Yup. Have my copy installed already. iMovie HD is a big
> > improvement. iPhoto 5 is a big improvment, although it's RAW file
> > support seems lousy (and lossy).
>
> Any details on what exactly is wrong with its RAW support?
For most of it's internal operations it converts the image to JPEG,
and seems to do so poorly (every attempt of mine so far results in an
image with poor quality and heavy color bleeding, which I suspect is
from no or poor antialiasing of the Bayer data in the RAW file).
For an example, start with this original CRW file:
http://www.giantspliff.org/iphoto5/CRW_3394.CRW
If I import this into iPhoto 5, and zoom in all the way, here's what I
see. Note the bad color banding. If I print this "RAW" image from
iPhoto, these color artifacts show up as well, so it's not sending the
RAW data to the printer driver:
http://www.giantspliff.org/iphoto5/3394_crw_iphoto5.png
For comparison, here's a screenshot of a tiff made from the same CRW
(using the Canon tools), zoomed in near-identically in iPhoto 5:
http://www.giantspliff.org/iphoto5/3394_tiff_iphoto5.png
Steve Hix
Dragonmaster Lou <l...@SPAM.ME.AND.DIE.techhouse.org> wrote:
> In article <y6xr7k7...@pomme.me.umn.edu>, Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> > "Paul Basnight" <paul.b...@cox.net> writes:
> >> Has anyone purchased iLife05 yet?
> >
> > Yup. Have my copy installed already. iMovie HD is a big
> > improvement. iPhoto 5 is a big improvment, although it's RAW file
> > support seems lousy (and lossy).
>
> Any details on what exactly is wrong with its RAW support?
Mostly it's incomplete. Which can also be said about Photoshop CS,
Photoshop Elements 3.0, ...
Different manufacturers' RAW formats are different; they're not
necessarily even the same on different cameras made by the same company.
It's going to take a while to catch up; unless everyone moves over to
Adobes digital negative format, undoubtedly while issuing forth with
small cries of joy.
Dragonmaster Lou
> Dragonmaster Lou <l...@SPAM.ME.AND.DIE.techhouse.org> writes:
>>
>> Any details on what exactly is wrong with its RAW support?
>
> For most of it's internal operations it converts the image to JPEG,
> and seems to do so poorly (every attempt of mine so far results in an
> image with poor quality and heavy color bleeding, which I suspect is
> from no or poor antialiasing of the Bayer data in the RAW file).
>
> For an example, start with this original CRW file:
>
> http://www.giantspliff.org/iphoto5/CRW_3394.CRW
>
> If I import this into iPhoto 5, and zoom in all the way, here's what I
> see. Note the bad color banding. If I print this "RAW" image from
> iPhoto, these color artifacts show up as well, so it's not sending the
> RAW data to the printer driver:
>
> http://www.giantspliff.org/iphoto5/3394_crw_iphoto5.png
>
> For comparison, here's a screenshot of a tiff made from the same CRW
> (using the Canon tools), zoomed in near-identically in iPhoto 5:
>
> http://www.giantspliff.org/iphoto5/3394_tiff_iphoto5.png
Ick. I can see the craptacular quality of the iPhoto-treated RAW file.
Now I'm at a bit of a loss as the RAW support was the main reason why I
got the upgrade to iLife '05.
Oh well, I never was a big fan of how iPhoto managed its libraries
anyway. I preferred seeing a direct directory structure for my images.
Maybe I'll use Canon's ImageBrowser from now on for my image management
needs and only use iPhoto for slideshows and HTML export. *sigh*
clvrmnky
after paying for Office (at the educational price, of course.) The fact
is that Word is worth the full cost of the suite for her, and the rest
of the suite is just gravy. The other day she found a use for PowerPoint.
When I bought my Quicksilver, it came with almost all the apps now in
iLife. At first, I balked at actually paying for this software, and
just used the free versions I (still) have.
After owning a digital camera for a few years now, I have to concur.
iPhoto is so nice, and I'm looking forward to making a DVD slide show of
my trip to Montreal for Mom. I also like how you can move GarageBand
projects over to Logic, so I'm going to give GarageBand a try. So, in
my case, I get 2-3 decent programs for $99 (I'm a canuck) and the rest
for free. Pretty good deal.
G5
<Dave...@spamcop.net> wrote:
I didn't have a clue about how to use Garageband, iMovie, etc., and
then I spotted what looked like a useful book at the Apple Store. It's
"The Macintosh iLife '04" by Jim Heid (ISBN 0-321-24671-3). It had a
DVD in it with his hands-on demonstration of iLife. I selected the
Garageband track (nearly 1/2 hour) and was absolutely blown away. The
iMovie and iDVD tutorials showed first-hand how to integrate all of the
elements of iLife into a nice presentation. But Garageband is worth
it's weight in gold. JMHO.
Disclaimer:
I have no affiliation with the Apple Store (beyond bieng a customer),
Jim Heid (or Macworld, beyond being a subscriber), or with the
publishers of "The Macintosh iLife '04" and DVD (Peachpit, Avondale).
Ernie Klein
Gregory Weston <u...@splook.com> wrote:
Look into your iPhoto Library -> the year -> the month -> the day, to
see your jpg files. If any image has been modified or edited the
original of that image will be placed in an 'originals' folder.
Example:
I go to iPhoto Library -> 2005 -> 02 -> 02 and I find all of the jpg
files for that day that iPhoto displays in the library. HOWEVER, if
there were any RAW images that were imported OR if any of the original
imported images have been edited (even rotated 90) you will find an
"originals" folder where all of the unmodified image files will be
found, including the original RAW files if there were any. In the
iPhoto menu under "Photos" there is a "Revert to Original" choice which
does just that; it replaces any modified or edited image in the Library
with the original image.
The good side: If I want the original image at any time it is still
there.
The bad side: If I simply rotate hundreds of images there will be two
copies, the rotated image and the original, not-rotated image, thus
using twice the hard drive space.
Having said all that, I like others, purchased iLive 05 mainly for the
RAW capability, which I find very lacking. The editing features are
very lame. I assumed (and you know what that means :) that if Apple was
going to provide RAW support, which most point and shoot camera users
don't even know exists, they would at least provide WB correction,
unsharpen mask, gamma correction, save to tiff, etc. It is rather
useless (to me) with what they provided - or didn't provide.
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