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Patty Winter
Jun 27, 2013, 4:53:59 PM6/27/13
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Today is the birthday of a friend of mine, and she discovered
that the Google home page doodle has turned into a collection
of birthday cakes. :-) When she mouses over it, it displays
personalized birthday greetings. Are there any built-in Mac
features that would allow her to capture that text?
I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
mouseover text disappeared. :-(
Patty
that the Google home page doodle has turned into a collection
of birthday cakes. :-) When she mouses over it, it displays
personalized birthday greetings. Are there any built-in Mac
features that would allow her to capture that text?
I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
mouseover text disappeared. :-(
Patty
nospam
Jun 27, 2013, 5:18:30 PM6/27/13
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In article <51cca667$0$52795$742e...@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
years ago.
cmd-shift-4 for an arbitrary area, or tap spacebar for a particular
window. the personalized text will probably remain (menus stay down,
for instance), but i haven't tried it with whatever page you're wanting
to capture.
> I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
> cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
> was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
> text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
> page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
> mouseover text disappeared. :-(
someone actually uses grab?
<pat...@sonic.net> wrote:
> Today is the birthday of a friend of mine, and she discovered
> that the Google home page doodle has turned into a collection
> of birthday cakes. :-) When she mouses over it, it displays
> personalized birthday greetings. Are there any built-in Mac
> features that would allow her to capture that text?
cmd-shift-3 for a screenshot. that's been there since the first mac, 29
> Today is the birthday of a friend of mine, and she discovered
> that the Google home page doodle has turned into a collection
> of birthday cakes. :-) When she mouses over it, it displays
> personalized birthday greetings. Are there any built-in Mac
> features that would allow her to capture that text?
years ago.
cmd-shift-4 for an arbitrary area, or tap spacebar for a particular
window. the personalized text will probably remain (menus stay down,
for instance), but i haven't tried it with whatever page you're wanting
to capture.
> I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
> cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
> was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
> text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
> page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
> mouseover text disappeared. :-(
M
Jun 27, 2013, 6:25:56 PM6/27/13
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Savageduck
Jun 27, 2013, 6:36:05 PM6/27/13
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have found it to be my go to capture app. It will make area select,
Window, full screen, and timed captures (without turning the cursor
into a camera).
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/snapndrag-pro/id430397512?mt=12 >
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Alan Browne
Jun 27, 2013, 6:50:48 PM6/27/13
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On 2013.06.27 16:53 , Patty Winter wrote:
> I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
> cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
> was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
> text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
> page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
> mouseover text disappeared. :-(
No problem here:
> I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
> cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
> was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
> text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
> page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
> mouseover text disappeared. :-(
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jbkyh879f4fmq9b/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27%20at%2018.47.26.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5lwipl00fborznb/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27%20at%2018.49.30.jpg
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j Burns
Jun 27, 2013, 7:03:51 PM6/27/13
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mouse work by clicking Safari in the dock to bring it to the foreground.
I pulled down a Safari menu, waited, heard the beep, and checked Grab.
The Safari screenshot didn't show the menu.
Patty Winter
Jun 27, 2013, 7:21:51 PM6/27/13
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In article <kqig2n$liu$1...@dont-email.me>, j Burns <bur...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>I had trouble, too. After turning on the timer, I was able to make the
>mouse work by clicking Safari in the dock to bring it to the foreground.
> I pulled down a Safari menu, waited, heard the beep, and checked Grab.
I didn't download the application that Savageduck suggested, but
all the other postings offered methods that will *not* capture
mouseover text. I use Cmd-Shift-4 almost daily, so I'm well aware
that it can't do this.
Patty
nospam
Jun 27, 2013, 7:40:22 PM6/27/13
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In article <51ccc90f$0$52823$742e...@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
screen will be captured.
<pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> I didn't download the application that Savageduck suggested, but
> all the other postings offered methods that will *not* capture
> mouseover text. I use Cmd-Shift-4 almost daily, so I'm well aware
> that it can't do this.
then use cmd-shft-3. it requires no mouse movement. whatever is on
> I didn't download the application that Savageduck suggested, but
> all the other postings offered methods that will *not* capture
> mouseover text. I use Cmd-Shift-4 almost daily, so I'm well aware
> that it can't do this.
screen will be captured.
Patty Winter
Jun 27, 2013, 7:51:16 PM6/27/13
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In article <270620131940225901%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
process, post the image somewhere where we can all see it.
I'm not holding my breath.
Patty
nospam
Jun 27, 2013, 7:58:39 PM6/27/13
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In article <51cccff4$0$52762$742e...@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
that does is capture whatever is on screen when invoked. since the
mouse doesn't move to invoke it, mouseovers will not be affected.
<pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >> I didn't download the application that Savageduck suggested, but
> >> all the other postings offered methods that will *not* capture
> >> mouseover text. I use Cmd-Shift-4 almost daily, so I'm well aware
> >> that it can't do this.
> >
> >then use cmd-shft-3. it requires no mouse movement. whatever is on
> >screen will be captured.
>
> Go ahead, try it. If you can retain the mouseover text in the
> process, post the image somewhere where we can all see it.
i tried it before i posted by first reply and it works just fine. all
> >> I didn't download the application that Savageduck suggested, but
> >> all the other postings offered methods that will *not* capture
> >> mouseover text. I use Cmd-Shift-4 almost daily, so I'm well aware
> >> that it can't do this.
> >
> >then use cmd-shft-3. it requires no mouse movement. whatever is on
> >screen will be captured.
>
> Go ahead, try it. If you can retain the mouseover text in the
> process, post the image somewhere where we can all see it.
that does is capture whatever is on screen when invoked. since the
mouse doesn't move to invoke it, mouseovers will not be affected.
Alan Browne
Jun 27, 2013, 8:01:15 PM6/27/13
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dorayme
Jun 27, 2013, 8:24:12 PM6/27/13
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> all the other postings offered methods that will *not* capture
> mouseover text. I use Cmd-Shift-4 almost daily, so I'm well aware
> that it can't do this.
>
>
This is not entirely true. Tooltips are things that come up on
> mouseover text. I use Cmd-Shift-4 almost daily, so I'm well aware
> that it can't do this.
>
>
mouseovers and they are screen capturable. So are some other types of
mouseover texts.
--
dorayme
Patty Winter
Jun 27, 2013, 8:59:55 PM6/27/13
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In article <oqidnRr6stvRT1HM...@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>I posted 2 examples for you.
Alan, I saw a posting from you that cited two screen captures
>
>I posted 2 examples for you.
with highlighted text. Did I miss another posting where you
gave examples of mouseover text?
Patty
Patty Winter
Jun 27, 2013, 9:00:59 PM6/27/13
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In article <270620131958391667%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>In article <51cccff4$0$52762$742e...@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
><pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
>
>> Go ahead, try it. If you can retain the mouseover text in the
>> process, post the image somewhere where we can all see it.
>
>i tried it before i posted by first reply and it works just fine.
Please post images. Whenever I try it, as soon as I press the
>In article <51cccff4$0$52762$742e...@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter
><pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
>
>> Go ahead, try it. If you can retain the mouseover text in the
>> process, post the image somewhere where we can all see it.
>
>i tried it before i posted by first reply and it works just fine.
first key, the mouseover text disappears.
Patty
Alan Baker
Jun 27, 2013, 9:10:09 PM6/27/13
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In article <lPmdnYz0UvdUXFHM...@giganews.com>,
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2013.06.27 16:53 , Patty Winter wrote:
>
> > I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
> > cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
> > was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
> > text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
> > page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
> > mouseover text disappeared. :-(
>
> No problem here:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jbkyh879f4fmq9b/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27%20at%2018
> .47.26.jpg
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5lwipl00fborznb/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27%20at%2018
> .49.30.jpg
I don't think that that's what he means by "mouseover text"...
> On 2013.06.27 16:53 , Patty Winter wrote:
>
> > I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
> > cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
> > was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
> > text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
> > page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
> > mouseover text disappeared. :-(
>
> No problem here:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jbkyh879f4fmq9b/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27%20at%2018
> .47.26.jpg
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5lwipl00fborznb/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27%20at%2018
> .49.30.jpg
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Alan Browne
Jun 27, 2013, 9:12:34 PM6/27/13
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text. Hang on ... oh. I retract that.
Of course I used a trackpad - so it's trackpadover text!
PhillipJones
Jun 27, 2013, 9:14:31 PM6/27/13
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Choose either SnagIt for Mac of Camtasia for Mac both made by the same
company
Also ScreenFlow or Screenium
--
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http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjon...@comcast.net
Wes Groleau
Jun 27, 2013, 9:48:05 PM6/27/13
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On 06-27-2013 17:18, nospam wrote:
> <pat...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Today is the birthday of a friend of mine, and she discovered
>> that the Google home page doodle has turned into a collection
>> of birthday cakes. :-) When she mouses over it, it displays
>> personalized birthday greetings. Are there any built-in Mac
>> features that would allow her to capture that text?
>
> cmd-shift-3 for a screenshot. that's been there since the first mac, 29
> years ago.
>
> cmd-shift-4 for an arbitrary area, or tap spacebar for a particular
> window. the personalized text will probably remain (menus stay down,
> for instance), but i haven't tried it with whatever page you're wanting
> to capture.
Cmd-Shift-3 will probably work (even that removes the mouse pointer)
> <pat...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Today is the birthday of a friend of mine, and she discovered
>> that the Google home page doodle has turned into a collection
>> of birthday cakes. :-) When she mouses over it, it displays
>> personalized birthday greetings. Are there any built-in Mac
>> features that would allow her to capture that text?
>
> cmd-shift-3 for a screenshot. that's been there since the first mac, 29
> years ago.
>
> cmd-shift-4 for an arbitrary area, or tap spacebar for a particular
> window. the personalized text will probably remain (menus stay down,
> for instance), but i haven't tried it with whatever page you're wanting
> to capture.
Cmd shift-4 may or may not (because you have to move the mouse from the
position that triggered the display).
>> I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
>> cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
>> was doing. I went to the IMDb home page and was able to display
>> text by mousing over the three movie posters near the top of the
>> page, but as soon as I invoked Grab with a keyboard shortcut, the
>> mouseover text disappeared. :-(
> someone actually uses grab?
Sure. It has its uses. The timer for example can sometimes work for
things like this. (Not always) You start the timer, and then re-do the
things that went away when you started Grab. I've maybe done something
like that ten times in five years. The Cmd-shift-3/4 is normally
satisfactory.
--
Wes Groleau
Daily Hoax: http://www.snopes2.com/cgi-bin/random/random.asp
Savageduck
Jun 27, 2013, 10:00:12 PM6/27/13
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< https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_246.jpg >
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Savageduck
Jun 27, 2013, 10:06:34 PM6/27/13
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< https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_247.jpg >
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Wayne C. Morris
Jun 27, 2013, 10:14:14 PM6/27/13
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In article <51cca667$0$52795$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
command-tab or the Dock to switch to the web browser, and you should be able to
get the mouseover text.
If you want the mouse pointer to show up in the screenshot too, select the
pointer you want in Grab's preferences.
You can also use command-shift-3 to take a screen snapshot while the popover
text is visible, but it won't show the mouse pointer.
pat...@sonic.net (Patty Winter) wrote:
> Today is the birthday of a friend of mine, and she discovered
> that the Google home page doodle has turned into a collection
> of birthday cakes. :-) When she mouses over it, it displays
> personalized birthday greetings. Are there any built-in Mac
> features that would allow her to capture that text?
>
> I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
> cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
> was doing.
That's because Grab was still in the front. After starting the timer, use
> Today is the birthday of a friend of mine, and she discovered
> that the Google home page doodle has turned into a collection
> of birthday cakes. :-) When she mouses over it, it displays
> personalized birthday greetings. Are there any built-in Mac
> features that would allow her to capture that text?
>
> I thought Grab might do it, but the timer function turns the
> cursor into a camera icon and disables anything else the cursor
> was doing.
command-tab or the Dock to switch to the web browser, and you should be able to
get the mouseover text.
If you want the mouse pointer to show up in the screenshot too, select the
pointer you want in Grab's preferences.
You can also use command-shift-3 to take a screen snapshot while the popover
text is visible, but it won't show the mouse pointer.
Patty Winter
Jun 27, 2013, 10:20:32 PM6/27/13
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In article <8Iudncmg3I6fflHM...@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>I showed highlighted text. Now you'll tell me that's not "mouseover"
>text. Hang on ... oh. I retract that.
>
>Of course I used a trackpad - so it's trackpadover text!
:-)
>
>I showed highlighted text. Now you'll tell me that's not "mouseover"
>text. Hang on ... oh. I retract that.
>
>Of course I used a trackpad - so it's trackpadover text!
Ah, perhaps there are other methods that work with trackpads,
but I'm on a plain ol' mouse, so as soon as I press another
key or move the mouse away from the target area--poof! The
mouseover text disappears.
I suppose there could be different behavior on 10.7 or 10.8,
but Cmd-Shift-3 and Cmd-Shift-4 sure don't work on 10.6.
Anyway, J's tip about reactivating the browser as the active
window before Grab's timer goes off did the trick!
Patty
Patty Winter
Jun 27, 2013, 10:23:31 PM6/27/13
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In article <wayne.morris-8C43...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Wayne C. Morris <wayne....@this.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>That's because Grab was still in the front. After starting the timer, use
>command-tab or the Dock to switch to the web browser, and you should be able to
>get the mouseover text.
Yep, thanks, Wayne, someone suggested that earlier and it solved the problem.
>
>That's because Grab was still in the front. After starting the timer, use
>command-tab or the Dock to switch to the web browser, and you should be able to
>get the mouseover text.
>You can also use command-shift-3 to take a screen snapshot while the popover
>text is visible, but it won't show the mouse pointer.
keys, the mouseover text disappears.
Patty
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Poster
Jun 27, 2013, 10:45:58 PM6/27/13
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In article <8Iudncmg3I6fflHM...@giganews.com>,
mouseover text, you're mistaken. You're correct on one point, anyway -
an example of highlighted text is indeed what you posted.
Mouseover text is text that pops up in response to the mouse being over
(as in "mouseover" - nifty coincidence, huh?) some feature of the UI,
and vanishes when the mouse leaves the vicinity of the feature it's
pertinent to. Frequently, it shows up looking much as if someone had
pasted a physical post-it note with information about a control onto the
screen near the control the mouse is currently over.
I imagine that if someone were so inclined, they could code an app so
that any mouseover text it displayed would appear as though it were
highlighted, but I can't come up with a practical reason they'd want to
bother.
Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2013.06.27 20:59 , Patty Winter wrote:
> > In article <oqidnRr6stvRT1HM...@giganews.com>,
> > Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> I posted 2 examples for you.
> >
> > Alan, I saw a posting from you that cited two screen captures
> > with highlighted text. Did I miss another posting where you
> > gave examples of mouseover text?
>
> I showed highlighted text. Now you'll tell me that's not "mouseover"
> text.
Quite correctly. If you think highlighted text is the same thing as
> On 2013.06.27 20:59 , Patty Winter wrote:
> > In article <oqidnRr6stvRT1HM...@giganews.com>,
> > Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> I posted 2 examples for you.
> >
> > Alan, I saw a posting from you that cited two screen captures
> > with highlighted text. Did I miss another posting where you
> > gave examples of mouseover text?
>
> I showed highlighted text. Now you'll tell me that's not "mouseover"
> text.
mouseover text, you're mistaken. You're correct on one point, anyway -
an example of highlighted text is indeed what you posted.
Mouseover text is text that pops up in response to the mouse being over
(as in "mouseover" - nifty coincidence, huh?) some feature of the UI,
and vanishes when the mouse leaves the vicinity of the feature it's
pertinent to. Frequently, it shows up looking much as if someone had
pasted a physical post-it note with information about a control onto the
screen near the control the mouse is currently over.
I imagine that if someone were so inclined, they could code an app so
that any mouseover text it displayed would appear as though it were
highlighted, but I can't come up with a practical reason they'd want to
bother.
j Burns
Jun 27, 2013, 10:54:49 PM6/27/13
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pulled down, it didn't show the menu. So I tried nospam's method. It
worked for me. It showed a drop menu in Safari.
j Burns
Jun 27, 2013, 11:04:51 PM6/27/13
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I found a page with a mouseover table. The table didn't show when I
used Grab with the timer, but Command-Shift-3 caught it.
I'm using Mountain Lion. That must be the difference.
Davoud
Jun 27, 2013, 11:58:59 PM6/27/13
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Savageduck:
Here's a capture of a Lightroom 5 drop-down menu using Mac OS's
Cmd-Shift 4
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
%20at%2023.35.31%20.png>.
And here's a capture of a full Mac screen including a Lightroom 5
drop-down menu using Mac OS's Cmd-Shift 3
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
%20at%2023.37.37%20.png>.
And here's a capture of a a Lightroom 5 pop-up help box using Mac OS's
Cmd-Shift 4
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
%20at%2023.54.39%20.png>.
Or is this not what we're talking about? This thread may have gotten
away from me a bit.
--
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you will say in your entire life.
usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
> Here is a capture of a Lightroom 4 drop down menu using "SnapNDrag" timer.
> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_246.jpg >
Nice pix!
> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_246.jpg >
Here's a capture of a Lightroom 5 drop-down menu using Mac OS's
Cmd-Shift 4
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
%20at%2023.35.31%20.png>.
And here's a capture of a full Mac screen including a Lightroom 5
drop-down menu using Mac OS's Cmd-Shift 3
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
%20at%2023.37.37%20.png>.
And here's a capture of a a Lightroom 5 pop-up help box using Mac OS's
Cmd-Shift 4
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
%20at%2023.54.39%20.png>.
Or is this not what we're talking about? This thread may have gotten
away from me a bit.
--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.
usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
Savageduck
Jun 28, 2013, 1:26:36 AM6/28/13
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On 2013-06-27 20:58:59 -0700, Davoud <st...@sky.net> said:
> Savageduck:
>> Here is a capture of a Lightroom 4 drop down menu using "SnapNDrag" timer.
>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_246.jpg >
>
> Nice pix!
Thanks!
> Savageduck:
>> Here is a capture of a Lightroom 4 drop down menu using "SnapNDrag" timer.
>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_246.jpg >
>
> Nice pix!
> Here's a capture of a Lightroom 5 drop-down menu using Mac OS's
> Cmd-Shift 4
> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
> %20at%2023.35.31%20.png>.
>
> And here's a capture of a full Mac screen including a Lightroom 5
> drop-down menu using Mac OS's Cmd-Shift 3
> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
> %20at%2023.37.37%20.png>.
>
> And here's a capture of a a Lightroom 5 pop-up help box using Mac OS's
> Cmd-Shift 4
> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46350374/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-27
> %20at%2023.54.39%20.png>.
>
> Or is this not what we're talking about? This thread may have gotten
> away from me a bit.
capturing with the "scroll over" text revealed as in the pop up help
box in your third example and in my follow-up post to the one you
responded to.
BTW: How are you finding LR5?
Since I am still running OSX 10.6.8 I have yet to try it. LR5 requires
a minimum of OSX 10.7.
From what I have seen I can live without the new features and continue
with my LR4+CS6 workflow without too much of an issue.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Barry Margolin
Jun 28, 2013, 11:45:12 AM6/28/13
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In article
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being over something. For instance, when you move the mouse through a
menu, the item under the mouse gets highlighted.
> and vanishes when the mouse leaves the vicinity of the feature it's
> pertinent to. Frequently, it shows up looking much as if someone had
> pasted a physical post-it note with information about a control onto the
> screen near the control the mouse is currently over.
The standard word for these pop-ups is "tooltips", because they were
originally created to provide additional information about the UI
feature (anyone remember Apple's "balloon help"?).
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Arlington, MA
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<spamproof-0E4A8...@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
Poster <spam...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> In article <8Iudncmg3I6fflHM...@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > On 2013.06.27 20:59 , Patty Winter wrote:
> > > In article <oqidnRr6stvRT1HM...@giganews.com>,
> > > Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I posted 2 examples for you.
> > >
> > > Alan, I saw a posting from you that cited two screen captures
> > > with highlighted text. Did I miss another posting where you
> > > gave examples of mouseover text?
> >
> > I showed highlighted text. Now you'll tell me that's not "mouseover"
> > text.
>
> Quite correctly. If you think highlighted text is the same thing as
> mouseover text, you're mistaken. You're correct on one point, anyway -
> an example of highlighted text is indeed what you posted.
>
> Mouseover text is text that pops up in response to the mouse being over
> (as in "mouseover" - nifty coincidence, huh?) some feature of the UI,
To be fair, highlighted text is also usually in response to the mouse
> In article <8Iudncmg3I6fflHM...@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > On 2013.06.27 20:59 , Patty Winter wrote:
> > > In article <oqidnRr6stvRT1HM...@giganews.com>,
> > > Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I posted 2 examples for you.
> > >
> > > Alan, I saw a posting from you that cited two screen captures
> > > with highlighted text. Did I miss another posting where you
> > > gave examples of mouseover text?
> >
> > I showed highlighted text. Now you'll tell me that's not "mouseover"
> > text.
>
> Quite correctly. If you think highlighted text is the same thing as
> mouseover text, you're mistaken. You're correct on one point, anyway -
> an example of highlighted text is indeed what you posted.
>
> Mouseover text is text that pops up in response to the mouse being over
> (as in "mouseover" - nifty coincidence, huh?) some feature of the UI,
being over something. For instance, when you move the mouse through a
menu, the item under the mouse gets highlighted.
> and vanishes when the mouse leaves the vicinity of the feature it's
> pertinent to. Frequently, it shows up looking much as if someone had
> pasted a physical post-it note with information about a control onto the
> screen near the control the mouse is currently over.
originally created to provide additional information about the UI
feature (anyone remember Apple's "balloon help"?).
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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Poster
Jun 28, 2013, 12:32:48 PM6/28/13
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In article <barmar-8A7074....@news.eternal-september.org>,
item disappear, or does it revert to its "not-highlighted" appearance?
This may seem trivial, however, it's a crucial distinction between
"highlighted" text, which, while it may change appearance, is always
"there", and "mouseover" text, which appears or vanishes in response to
mouse movement.
> > and vanishes when the mouse leaves the vicinity of the feature it's
> > pertinent to. Frequently, it shows up looking much as if someone had
> > pasted a physical post-it note with information about a control onto the
> > screen near the control the mouse is currently over.
>
> The standard word for these pop-ups is "tooltips", because they were
> originally created to provide additional information about the UI
> feature (anyone remember Apple's "balloon help"?).
You can call it a tooltip, you can call it mouseover text, you can call
it popup or balloon help, you can call it anything you care to - But
regardless of what you call it, it's a bit of text that shows when the
cursor is over some specific place, and goes away when the cursor is
moved away from that place.
Highlighted text is "permanent" - it doesn't come and go. It may (in
fact, should) change appearance in response to being highlighted or not,
but the text itself is always there. (Don't bother dragging out edge
cases such as "what if the user hits the delete key?" unless your goal
is to be dismissed as a twit who's arguing purely for the sake of having
an argument)
Mouseover text is "temporary" - Whatever form it takes (whether a
virtual post-it note, a comic-strip style word balloon, etc) it comes
and goes as the cursor moves. When it's invoked, it's there and visible.
When it's not invoked, it's nowhere to be seen.
Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <spamproof-0E4A8...@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> Poster <spam...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <8Iudncmg3I6fflHM...@giganews.com>,
> > Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2013.06.27 20:59 , Patty Winter wrote:
> > > > In article <oqidnRr6stvRT1HM...@giganews.com>,
> > > > Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I posted 2 examples for you.
> > > >
> > > > Alan, I saw a posting from you that cited two screen captures
> > > > with highlighted text. Did I miss another posting where you
> > > > gave examples of mouseover text?
> > >
> > > I showed highlighted text. Now you'll tell me that's not "mouseover"
> > > text.
> >
> > Quite correctly. If you think highlighted text is the same thing as
> > mouseover text, you're mistaken. You're correct on one point, anyway -
> > an example of highlighted text is indeed what you posted.
> >
> > Mouseover text is text that pops up in response to the mouse being over
> > (as in "mouseover" - nifty coincidence, huh?) some feature of the UI,
>
> To be fair, highlighted text is also usually in response to the mouse
> being over something. For instance, when you move the mouse through a
> menu, the item under the mouse gets highlighted.
And when the mouse moves off that menu item, what happens? Does the menu
> In article
> <spamproof-0E4A8...@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> Poster <spam...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <8Iudncmg3I6fflHM...@giganews.com>,
> > Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2013.06.27 20:59 , Patty Winter wrote:
> > > > In article <oqidnRr6stvRT1HM...@giganews.com>,
> > > > Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I posted 2 examples for you.
> > > >
> > > > Alan, I saw a posting from you that cited two screen captures
> > > > with highlighted text. Did I miss another posting where you
> > > > gave examples of mouseover text?
> > >
> > > I showed highlighted text. Now you'll tell me that's not "mouseover"
> > > text.
> >
> > Quite correctly. If you think highlighted text is the same thing as
> > mouseover text, you're mistaken. You're correct on one point, anyway -
> > an example of highlighted text is indeed what you posted.
> >
> > Mouseover text is text that pops up in response to the mouse being over
> > (as in "mouseover" - nifty coincidence, huh?) some feature of the UI,
>
> To be fair, highlighted text is also usually in response to the mouse
> being over something. For instance, when you move the mouse through a
> menu, the item under the mouse gets highlighted.
item disappear, or does it revert to its "not-highlighted" appearance?
This may seem trivial, however, it's a crucial distinction between
"highlighted" text, which, while it may change appearance, is always
"there", and "mouseover" text, which appears or vanishes in response to
mouse movement.
> > and vanishes when the mouse leaves the vicinity of the feature it's
> > pertinent to. Frequently, it shows up looking much as if someone had
> > pasted a physical post-it note with information about a control onto the
> > screen near the control the mouse is currently over.
>
> The standard word for these pop-ups is "tooltips", because they were
> originally created to provide additional information about the UI
> feature (anyone remember Apple's "balloon help"?).
it popup or balloon help, you can call it anything you care to - But
regardless of what you call it, it's a bit of text that shows when the
cursor is over some specific place, and goes away when the cursor is
moved away from that place.
Highlighted text is "permanent" - it doesn't come and go. It may (in
fact, should) change appearance in response to being highlighted or not,
but the text itself is always there. (Don't bother dragging out edge
cases such as "what if the user hits the delete key?" unless your goal
is to be dismissed as a twit who's arguing purely for the sake of having
an argument)
Mouseover text is "temporary" - Whatever form it takes (whether a
virtual post-it note, a comic-strip style word balloon, etc) it comes
and goes as the cursor moves. When it's invoked, it's there and visible.
When it's not invoked, it's nowhere to be seen.
Suzie-Q
Jun 28, 2013, 1:27:20 PM6/28/13
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<wayne.morris-8C43...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Wayne C. Morris" <wayne....@this.is.invalid> wrote:
<wayne.morris-8C43...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Wayne C. Morris" <wayne....@this.is.invalid> wrote:
and I wanted to screen capture the mouseover text, too. Command-shift-3
didn't work.
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Wayne C. Morris
Jun 28, 2013, 6:36:27 PM6/28/13
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In article <sme617x-D3D28A...@news.giganews.com>,
It's probably your web browser. It works on Mac OS 10.6.8 in both Safari 5.1.9
and OmniWeb 5.11.2. I don't have Chrome.
Firefox 21.0 is tricky. The mouseover text disappears when you press the
command or shift key, BUT if you just hold down the command and shift keys and
move the mouse, the mouseover text will reappear; pressing 3 while still holding
command & shift will then take the snapshot, and the mouseover text will be
included.
Using Grab's timer works in all three browsers, as long as you remember to bring
the browser to the front as soon as you start the timer.
and OmniWeb 5.11.2. I don't have Chrome.
Firefox 21.0 is tricky. The mouseover text disappears when you press the
command or shift key, BUT if you just hold down the command and shift keys and
move the mouse, the mouseover text will reappear; pressing 3 while still holding
command & shift will then take the snapshot, and the mouseover text will be
included.
Using Grab's timer works in all three browsers, as long as you remember to bring
the browser to the front as soon as you start the timer.
Davoud
Jun 28, 2013, 7:54:26 PM6/28/13
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Savageduck:
that it's not revolutionary and that you're not in any way crippled by
staying with LR4.
> BTW: How are you finding LR5?
> Since I am still running OSX 10.6.8 I have yet to try it. LR5 requires
> a minimum of OSX 10.7.
> From what I have seen I can live without the new features and continue
> with my LR4+CS6 workflow without too much of an issue.
I haven't used LR5 enough to provide an informed opinion. I can say
> Since I am still running OSX 10.6.8 I have yet to try it. LR5 requires
> a minimum of OSX 10.7.
> From what I have seen I can live without the new features and continue
> with my LR4+CS6 workflow without too much of an issue.
that it's not revolutionary and that you're not in any way crippled by
staying with LR4.
dorayme
Jun 28, 2013, 8:19:51 PM6/28/13
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it. Perhaps the OP is moving mouse before the camera crop comes up or
is too slow to get the job done (tooltips are on a tight schedule) or
her computer is exceedingly fast and is contemptuous or impatient with
Time Itself.
> Firefox 21.0 is tricky. The mouseover text disappears when you press the
> command or shift key, BUT if you just hold down the command and shift keys
> and move the mouse, the mouseover text will reappear; pressing 3 while still
> holding command & shift will then take the snapshot, and the mouseover text
> will be included.
>
Well observed, yes, if you keep the mouse over the text that has a
mouseover attribute. You can also press 4 to take a more useful
defined shot.
--
dorayme
<wayne.morris-2CB5...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Wayne C. Morris" <wayne....@this.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sme617x-D3D28A...@news.giganews.com>,
> Suzie-Q <sme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <wayne.morris-8C43...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne....@this.is.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <51cca667$0$52795$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> > > pat...@sonic.net (Patty Winter) wrote:
> > >
> > > That's because Grab was still in the front. After starting the timer, use
> > > command-tab or the Dock to switch to the web browser, and you should be
> > > able to get the mouseover text.
> > >
> > > If you want the mouse pointer to show up in the screenshot too, select
> > > the
> > > pointer you want in Grab's preferences.
> > >
> > > You can also use command-shift-3 to take a screen snapshot while the
> > > popover text is visible, but it won't show the mouse pointer.
> >
> > I tried exactly what the OP is describing. My birthday was on the 17th and
> > I
> > wanted to screen capture the mouseover text, too. Command-shift-3 didn't
> > work.
>
> It's probably your web browser. It works on Mac OS 10.6.8 in both Safari
> 5.1.9 and OmniWeb 5.11.2. I don't have Chrome.
>
In Mac Chrome it works fine, tooltips are easily screen capturable on
> In article <sme617x-D3D28A...@news.giganews.com>,
> Suzie-Q <sme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <wayne.morris-8C43...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne....@this.is.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <51cca667$0$52795$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> > > pat...@sonic.net (Patty Winter) wrote:
> > >
> > > That's because Grab was still in the front. After starting the timer, use
> > > command-tab or the Dock to switch to the web browser, and you should be
> > > able to get the mouseover text.
> > >
> > > If you want the mouse pointer to show up in the screenshot too, select
> > > the
> > > pointer you want in Grab's preferences.
> > >
> > > You can also use command-shift-3 to take a screen snapshot while the
> > > popover text is visible, but it won't show the mouse pointer.
> >
> > I tried exactly what the OP is describing. My birthday was on the 17th and
> > I
> > wanted to screen capture the mouseover text, too. Command-shift-3 didn't
> > work.
>
> It's probably your web browser. It works on Mac OS 10.6.8 in both Safari
> 5.1.9 and OmniWeb 5.11.2. I don't have Chrome.
>
it. Perhaps the OP is moving mouse before the camera crop comes up or
is too slow to get the job done (tooltips are on a tight schedule) or
her computer is exceedingly fast and is contemptuous or impatient with
Time Itself.
> Firefox 21.0 is tricky. The mouseover text disappears when you press the
> command or shift key, BUT if you just hold down the command and shift keys
> and move the mouse, the mouseover text will reappear; pressing 3 while still
> holding command & shift will then take the snapshot, and the mouseover text
> will be included.
>
mouseover attribute. You can also press 4 to take a more useful
defined shot.
--
dorayme
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