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Kimron Shapiro

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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I am receiving an error from Disk First Aid (8.2) that says "Mountcheck
errors found" but it cannot seem to repair them. Both Norton and TechTools
Pro say the disk is fine. I did have significant disk problems recently
that TechTools Pro fixed. My questions are, What are 'mountcheck errors',
should I worry about it, and what should I do?

Thanks very much in advance.

Kimron

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I hope it's becoming a little clearer now....

Diller Ryan

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Sep 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/1/98
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Is there any documentation on this program? Can anyone explain the two
comma separated numbers that appear after some error messages?

I am also getting the same "MountCheck" error. It is termed a "serious"
error. Unlike Kimron, I have not had anything more than minor errors in
the past.

Additional thanks,
Diller

fm

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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Please be so kind to see that I took this message to
comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage, since to me that seems to be the appropiate
forum for this thread.

In article <4XZG1.4838$vB1.2...@twinkie.callamer.com>, dr...@slonet.org
(Diller Ryan) wrote:


I also am getting these 'MountCheck' errors. When I choose to repair them
and run DFA again, it tells me there are several Btree and catalog file
errors.
When I run DFA to repair these errors, the MountCheck errors re-appear.

Since I still use HFS in stead of HSF+, I am able to use NUM. It tells me
it has found serious erors, but cannot fix them. This is when the
MountCheck error is reported by DFA. After I fix the MountCheck error with
DFA, NUM is able to repair the disk.
When I rerun DFA to see if all is right, the MountCheck errors are there againŠ

Frank

Finn Brunberg

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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fm <fme...@telekabel2.nl> wrote:

> > I am also getting the same "MountCheck" error. It is termed a "serious"
> > error. Unlike Kimron, I have not had anything more than minor errors in
> > the past.

> > > I am receiving an error from Disk First Aid (8.2) that says


> > > "Mountcheck errors found" but it cannot seem to repair them. Both
> > > Norton and TechTools Pro say the disk is fine. I did have significant
> > > disk problems recently that TechTools Pro fixed. My questions are,
> > > What are 'mountcheck errors', should I worry about it, and what should
> > > I do?
>
>
> I also am getting these 'MountCheck' errors. When I choose to repair them
> and run DFA again, it tells me there are several Btree and catalog file
> errors. When I run DFA to repair these errors, the MountCheck errors
> re-appear.
>
> Since I still use HFS in stead of HSF+, I am able to use NUM. It tells me
> it has found serious erors, but cannot fix them. This is when the
> MountCheck error is reported by DFA. After I fix the MountCheck error with
> DFA, NUM is able to repair the disk. When I rerun DFA to see if all is
> right, the MountCheck errors are there again


I had the same experience - DFA reproted "MountCheck" error and
pretended to fix it (stating afterwards that the HD was OK), but when I
ran DFA again, the same error was reported. At the same time I
experienced that some times my zip-drive showed up on the desktop as six
different icons (non of which could be opend - the computer answerd that
it could not read the disk and asked, if I wanted to format it, but it
could not format it either "because it didn´t exist"). BackUp and
formating my HD _did not_ solve the problem _until_ I coosed "lowlevel
formating" and "erase all data" (optional in the formating tool). After
that DFA reported my HD was OK, and the zipdisks showed up propperly

yours Finn


fm

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Sep 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/13/98
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In article <1df77cs.14mjo6hh9r4m2N@[172.20.169.72]>, brun...@post5.tele.dk
(Finn Brunberg) wrote:

> fm <fme...@telekabel2.nl> wrote:

> > I also am getting these 'MountCheck' errors. When I choose to repair them
> > and run DFA again, it tells me there are several Btree and catalog file
> > errors. When I run DFA to repair these errors, the MountCheck errors
> > re-appear.
> >
> > Since I still use HFS in stead of HSF+, I am able to use NUM. It tells me
> > it has found serious erors, but cannot fix them. This is when the
> > MountCheck error is reported by DFA. After I fix the MountCheck error with
> > DFA, NUM is able to repair the disk. When I rerun DFA to see if all is
> > right, the MountCheck errors are there again
>
>
> I had the same experience - DFA reproted "MountCheck" error and
> pretended to fix it (stating afterwards that the HD was OK), but when I
> ran DFA again, the same error was reported. At the same time I
> experienced that some times my zip-drive showed up on the desktop as six
> different icons (non of which could be opend - the computer answerd that
> it could not read the disk and asked, if I wanted to format it, but it
> could not format it either "because it didn´t exist"). BackUp and
> formating my HD _did not_ solve the problem _until_ I coosed "lowlevel
> formating" and "erase all data" (optional in the formating tool). After
> that DFA reported my HD was OK, and the zipdisks showed up propperly
>
> yours Finn

Sorry. You 'coosed' lowlevel formatting? I think you mean 'chose'?

With what utility did you format your HD? HDT, DriveSetup, Silverlining,
and which version?
You see, I tried all those, all latest versions, only to find that each
utility added another driver to the disk, making even more 'shadow disks'
appear.

Picking another driver with HDT [View Partion Map=>select a driver=>'make
this the driver'] did deminish the number of shadow disks, but the
mountcheck errors kept appearing.

Eventually, I started lowlevel formatting with HDT, and made an emergency
stop with Cmd-Ctrl-On/Off after about 30 sec.
This resulted in a clean, driverless HD after restart.
I then reformatted the disk with HDT: lowlevel, erase all data, after
giving the disk a master password. Until now, this has worked out: no
shadow disks do reappear, no mountcheck errors are reported.

Remains DFA reporting on every second partition of every drive: 'This is
not an HFS disk.' Still, the partition is recognized and mounted without a
problem; NDD 3.5.2 is able to repair the minor errors that occur.

Strangely enough, none of these errors seamed to occur when I started up
from a partition with MacOS 8.0.

Another oddity is that after starting up DFA and quitting the Finder of
MacOS 8.0, no problems are reported at all; each and every partition,
including the troublesome second partitions, is repaired without mentioning
'mountcheck errors' or 'this is not an HFS disk'.

In view of all this complicated 'repairing' I keep a VERY tight backup
scheme; just in caseŠ

Frank.

Finn Brunberg

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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fm <fme...@telekabel2.nl> wrote:

>
> With what utility did you format your HD? HDT, DriveSetup, Silverlining,
> and which version?

Used Apple Hard Disk Tool (that came with the system software).
I have never used any other diskdriver or formating tool than Apples
own.

I have only one partion on the HD (8.1) and no alternativ drivers
The problem with ghost-disk was occoured when I was using a zip-drive
connected to the PB, but as I explained it disappeared compleatly (and
so did the "MountCheck" error-message in DFA) after low level formating
the HD.

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