Where's "Save" and "Save As" in iWork Pages under Lion?
Null
Lloyd E Parsons
> They're gone!
If you create a new file, then the 'save' shows up. Otherwise they auto
save when you close the program. I haven't dug around to see if you can
change that.
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> They're gone!
duplicate.
Gerry
> They're gone!
Lion now saves files automatically, like Time Machine you can step back
through all the changes you made to your document.
PhillipJones
> They're gone!
OS7 has auto save built in like FileMaker Pro. when you open a an
Application and create a File you close it and when you open again there
you are right where you left off. I'm hoping third party Apple (Word,
etc) at least retain Save As... Because I don't put any files in the
documents Directory. I have files organized in different directories.
The idea of one place to put all files is a super dumb Ass idea.
Wes Groleau
> The idea of one place to put all files is a super dumb Ass idea.
Is it capitalized because it's the next version after they've run out of
cats? :-)
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Phillip Jones
> On 08-05-2011 22:16, PhillipJones wrote:
>
> Is it capitalized because it's the next version after they've run out of
> cats? :-)
>
Have they use the Ocelot?
They could to go birds of Prey.
The Eagle, the Owl, the Falcon, The phoenix, The condor ?
Then go to Canines, The Wolf, The Coyote
If they go like they seem to be after OSX.7 it will be iOS just like on
the iPad.
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Jamie Kahn Genet
> On 08-05-2011 22:16, PhillipJones wrote:
> > The idea of one place to put all files is a super dumb Ass idea.
>
> Is it capitalized because it's the next version after they've run out of
> cats? :-)
Oh please, not even close - OS X Housecat hasn't been used! Or OS X
Tabby! Or OS X Moggie!
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...what the fuck are you going on about?? You can't be serious.
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PhillipJones
> Wes Groleau<Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>> On 08-05-2011 22:16, PhillipJones wrote:
>>> The idea of one place to put all files is a super dumb Ass idea.
>>
>> Is it capitalized because it's the next version after they've run out of
>> cats? :-)
>
> Oh please, not even close - OS X Housecat hasn't been used! Or OS X
> Tabby! Or OS X Moggie!
Maine Coon, Persian, Siamese, the Himalayan, America short Hair, The
Egyptian Maui, and other.
If they start using dog names Doberman, The Rottweiler, The German
Shepard, the Pekingese, The Great Dane, the Chihuahua. The Boston
Terrier, The Bulldog, The Chow, and so on.
If they were to use snake Names They could use The Boa, the Python, the
Rattlesnake, The Copperhead, The Cottonmouth, The Black Mamba, The Green
Mamba, The coral, The Bushmaster.
PhillipJones
you open application, start working and close when fooling with it. You
have no control over where and what director to put files. I like to
organize my files like using a Filing cabinet.
For example I use DreamWeaver to work on my website, I have a specified
directory that I put my web files in. In OSX.7 there is no longer away
to do that. every thing is saved for you you have no control over where
you want placed and it makes multiple copies of files. Then when I use
Interarchy to upload the files I have a Mirror down load set up to makes
sure the files on my Web site are the same as I have on computer. You
have no control over that.
Jolly Roger
PhillipJones <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > PhillipJones<pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote:
> >> Null wrote:
> >>> They're gone!
> >> I was worried about that.
> >> OS7 has auto save built in like FileMaker Pro. when you open a an
> >> Application and create a File you close it and when you open again there
> >> you are right where you left off. I'm hoping third party Apple (Word,
> >> etc) at least retain Save As... Because I don't put any files in the
> >> documents Directory. I have files organized in different directories. The
> >> idea of one place to put all files is a super dumb Ass idea.
> >
> > ...what the fuck are you going on about?? You can't be serious.
> >
> I am talking about OSX.7 Lion. They have no Save or Save As....
>
> you open application, start working and close when fooling with it.
I was referring to your assertion that placing documents in the
Documents folder is a "dumb ass idea". It's nothing of the sort.
> You have no control over where and what director to put files.
Incorrect. I am running Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion), and all of my files are
right where I had them before I had 10.7 installed. Nothing has changed.
> I like to organize my files like using a Filing cabinet.
Me too - within the /Users/me/Documents folder, I have 106 (yes, one
hundred and six) items, many of which are folders used to categorize my
documents, and may of those have their own sets of subordinate folders.
Lion hasn't changed that at all.
> For example I use DreamWeaver to work on my website, I have a specified
> directory that I put my web files in.
Same here. I keep my web development files at:
~/Documents/Projects/Internet/
> In OSX.7 there is no longer away to do that. every thing is saved for you
> you have no control over where you want placed
Incorrect!
> and it makes multiple copies of files.
No. Mac OS X 10.7 transparently keeps multiple versions of the same
file. There's a difference.
> Then when I use
> Interarchy to upload the files I have a Mirror down load set up to makes
> sure the files on my Web site are the same as I have on computer. You
> have no control over that.
Sorry, but that's just plain incorrect!
Are you basing your statements on actual experience with Mac OS X 10.7,
or just stuff you read on the net?
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PhillipJones <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote:
I heard about that Boa OS. Unfortunately, it constricts your ability to
use the computer too much.
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Phillip Jones
Based on description at Apple.
Right now I don't have a Internet Connection capable to download Lion.
I'd have to be on my DSL Connection 28 hrs straight to download.
Jolly Roger
Phillip Jones <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote:
Then you have misunderstood the description. I've been using 10.7 since
it was released.
> Right now I don't have a Internet Connection capable to download Lion.
> I'd have to be on my DSL Connection 28 hrs straight to download.
According to Apple, you can walk into any Apple store to download it
over their fast network.
Or you could wait until they start selling it on USB stick in late
August.
PhillipJones
> In article<j1k1ca$7th$1...@dont-email.me>,
side. its 3 hr just to the western edge of Richmond on 360. another hour
in Richmond traffic to get to store.
Nearest in North Carolina is 1-1/2 hrs to two hrs away depending up traffic.
John McWilliams
<choking>
What a bunch of feathers!
David
Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> On 08-05-2011 22:16, PhillipJones wrote:
> > The idea of one place to put all files is a super dumb Ass idea.
>
> Is it capitalized because it's the next version after they've run out of
> cats? :-)
But they havent used 'pussy cat' yet
David
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Thomas R. Kettler
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> David <ad...@confidential.com.au> wrote:
>
> > In article <j1ib3n$ofh$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 08-05-2011 22:16, PhillipJones wrote:
> > > > The idea of one place to put all files is a super dumb Ass idea.
> > >
> > > Is it capitalized because it's the next version after they've run out of
> > > cats? :-)
> >
> > But they havent used 'pussy cat' yet
> >
> > David
>
> And more's the pity!
I can just see the James Bond jokes if they'd do so since people would
readily say Apple has "Pussy Galore"!
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkChbEu3hKE>
Walter Bushell
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
> > On 08-05-2011 22:16, PhillipJones wrote:
> > > The idea of one place to put all files is a super dumb Ass idea.
> >
> > Is it capitalized because it's the next version after they've run out of
> > cats? :-)
>
> Oh please, not even close - OS X Housecat hasn't been used! Or OS X
> Tabby! Or OS X Moggie!
Or OS X Calico, sez Old Possum. Then there's OS X Persian, and even OS X
Siamese, if you please or if you don't please.
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I am aware that I can use finder to copy the file
sbt
<14128722.1655.1331339430294.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbxv4>,
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Erilar
> On 2012-03-10 01:31:16 +0000, sbt said:
>
>> In article
>> <14128722.1655.1331339430294.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbxv4>,
>> <tshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If I want to save the same file in TWO Places is there a easy way to do it
>>> from within the programs?
>>>>> I am aware that I can use finder to copy the file
>>> Use the Duplicate command under the File menu.
>
> The "Save" that file. It will ask you for a new name and location.
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PhillipJones
want to know how it works download and try out FileMaker Pro.
The first time you create a new file you have the option to Save. There
is no Save as in Lion you use the Duplicate command. I think its stupid
but Apple thinks different.
Erilar
Bread
> PhillipJones <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote:
>>
>> The first time you create a new file you have the option to Save. There
>> is no Save as in Lion you use the Duplicate command. I think its stupid
>> but Apple thinks different.
>
> Eeek! I use it all the time! Obviously I need to avoid Lion!
save a copy of a file under a different filename, now, instead, you use
Duplicate followed by Save.
It's not rocket science.
I do wish Apple had the sense to make these an option, however. I
understand that Apple doesn't intent to make too many options available
as it seems to overwhelm many users to have too many choices, but it'd
be nice if this were at least accessiable in some "advanced" option
screen. And, of course, whether to use Versions or not is not being
forced on application developers by Apple - developers have to choose
to use Apple's Versions system or not. Apple, of course, has chosen to
use it in their own apps (Pages, Numbers, etc)
Apple's implementation of (and interface - or lack thereof - for
managing) Versions is still, in my opinion, a work in progress. We've
discussed this here in great detail (along with me performing various
experiments).
Versions is, when used as intended, really really nice in that it's
seamless, effortless and easy. But it's important to understand what
it is not - it's not a true revision control system, and it doesn't
allow you to carry your file's history if you move your file from one
file system to another.
But so long as you are working on one file in one place, it's really
nice. You just don't have to think about it at all. I don't think of
it as a revision control system but rather as a smart rollback system
for work within a single session on a given file.
And if, like me, you not only want to keep the version you're working
on, but you want to make sure you have proper historical "landmark"
versions, the way to do that is, in fact, what we've always done with
Save As - you duplicate the file and rename it (either within the
application itself with the Duplicate command, or in the Finder by
copying the file and renaming the copy before opening it).
Avoiding Versions is a very silly reason to avoid Lion. It really
doesn't force anything on you. As far as I can tell, the only really
strong reason to avoid Lion is if you still need Rosetta. And with the
newly released Quicken 2007 for Lion, there's one less major reason for
folks to avoid it.
gtr
don't like it but I'm beginning to acclimate.
Erilar
> On 2012-03-12 15:37:47 +0000, Erilar said:
>
>> PhillipJones <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote:
>>> Erilar wrote:
>>>> gtr<x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-03-10 01:31:16 +0000, sbt said:
>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <14128722.1655.1331339430294.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbxv4>,
>>>>>> <tshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> If I want to save the same file in TWO Places is there a easy way to do it
>>>>>>> from within the programs?
>>>>>>>>> I am aware that I can use finder to copy the file
>>>>>>> Use the Duplicate command under the File menu.
>>>>>>>>> The "Save" that file. It will ask you for a new name and location.
>>>>>>> Why not just "save as" twice, changing location?
>>>>> In Lion the is no Save and Save as Command in the file menu. If you want
>>> to know how it works download and try out FileMaker Pro.
>>>>> The first time you create a new file you have the option to Save. There
>>> is no Save as in Lion you use the Duplicate command. I think its stupid
>>> but Apple thinks different.
>>> Eeek! I use it all the time! Obviously I need to avoid Lion!
>
> With the introduction of any new OS, you win some you lose some. I don't
> like it but I'm beginning to acclimate.
than I've gained in choice and control of anything I have any use for. At
least with AppleWorks, nothing major was destroyed completely, but OS 10.6
destroyed even more than Pages. Preset templates? What nonsense!