Windows-like Finder replacement
Joe Button
Can anyone recommend a more Windows-Explorer-like file manager for people
who have just started using a Mac after years on Windows?
We tried Rage software's Macintosh Explorer demo but it seems to run rather
slowly.
We'd be grateful if people could just accept that we really want to do this,
not tell us that anything that resembles anything to do with PCs is the work
of Satan.
Many thanks,
Joe + Rachel
xxx xxx
Tom Dowdy
"Joe Button" <joeb...@hugemelons.freenospamserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a more Windows-Explorer-like file manager for people
> who have just started using a Mac after years on Windows?
You don't say if you are running OS 9 or X. But if the former is the
case, many Windows folks seem to like the Column browser built into the
OS X Finder. That may be more of a change that you want right now :-)
Another possibility is to look into more use of the List view in the
Finder (this holds true for both 9 and X). It may be that what you'd
like is there, but you haven't learned it yet :-) The turn-down
triangles, combined with command and option keys basically give you the
Windows "everything in one massive list" interface. I know people who
drive their Mac this way all of the time as well.
Allan Sparrow
> Hi.
>
> Can anyone recommend a more Windows-Explorer-like file manager for people
> who have just started using a Mac after years on Windows?
If your OS version is anything before OS X, maybe Greg's Browser would
suit you - it's shareware, but you can download and use without it being
crippled. Search at <http://www.versiontracker.com/> or the like.
Allan Sparrow
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Orac
I would never do that. However, I have a very hard time understanding
why anyone would actually want to do what you are proposing....
--
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|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"
T. Kelley Boylan
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a more Windows-Explorer-like file manager for people
> > who have just started using a Mac after years on Windows?
Mac OSX is is Explorer-like but isn't quite the same, but I haven't
seen anything that really works that same was as Explorer. That doesn't
mean it doesn't exist, but I've hunted for one too.
-K-
J. Brown
Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <3be9...@212.67.96.135>,
> "Joe Button" <joeb...@hugemelons.freenospamserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi.
> > Can anyone recommend a more Windows-Explorer-like file manager for people
> > who have just started using a Mac after years on Windows?
> > We tried Rage software's Macintosh Explorer demo but it seems to run rather
> > slowly.
> > We'd be grateful if people could just accept that we really want to do this,
> > not tell us that anything that resembles anything to do with PCs is the work
> > of Satan.
> I would never do that. However, I have a very hard time understanding
> why anyone would actually want to do what you are proposing....
Nah, I wouldn't either. However, I would re-evaluate my motives for
using another operating system's file browser on OS X or any other OS.
There are UI flaws that make Windows intollerable when one tries to use
it as one would use a Mac - you have to resort to using the explorer
when doing file management in order to get anything done.
The MacOS does not suffer from the same UI flaws. There are numerous
short-cuts to make windows disappear as you traverse your directory
structure, the list view, spring-loaded folders in classic, column view
in OS X, etc.
I would wager that in the long run you'd be better off simply biting the
bullet and trying to use the Mac like a Mac, rather than like Windows.
-jbrown
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In article <3be9...@212.67.96.135>, Joe Button
<joeb...@hugemelons.freenospamserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Can anyone recommend a more Windows-Explorer-like file manager for people
> who have just started using a Mac after years on Windows?
>
> We tried Rage software's Macintosh Explorer demo but it seems to run rather
> slowly.
did you try allocating more memory?
Also try:
http://www.kaleidoscope.net/greg/browser.html (Greg's Browser)
http://www.maliasoft.com/simplebrowser/ (Simple Browser)
http://www.ag.fimug.fi/~ohvo/en/ohje.html (File Browser Pro)
http://www.probabilityone.com/UtilityDog.html (Utility Dog)
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Bob B.
> In article <Orac-4CE991.2...@news2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
> Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <3be9...@212.67.96.135>,
>> "Joe Button" <joeb...@hugemelons.freenospamserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>
>>>Hi.
>>>
>
>>>Can anyone recommend a more Windows-Explorer-like file manager for people
>>>who have just started using a Mac after years on Windows?
>>>
>
>>>We tried Rage software's Macintosh Explorer demo but it seems to run rather
>>>slowly.
>>>
>
>>>We'd be grateful if people could just accept that we really want to do this,
>>>not tell us that anything that resembles anything to do with PCs is the work
>>>of Satan.
>>>
>
>>I would never do that. However, I have a very hard time understanding
>>why anyone would actually want to do what you are proposing....
>>
>
> Nah, I wouldn't either. However, I would re-evaluate my motives for
> using another operating system's file browser on OS X or any other OS.
> There are UI flaws that make Windows intollerable when one tries to use
> it as one would use a Mac - you have to resort to using the explorer
> when doing file management in order to get anything done.
>
> The MacOS does not suffer from the same UI flaws. There are numerous
> short-cuts to make windows disappear as you traverse your directory
> structure, the list view, spring-loaded folders in classic, column view
> in OS X, etc.
What I miss from the Windows Explorer is the ability to drag a file from
any folder to any other folder. This is possible because of the "tree"
view of the file system. The OS X Finder lacks this tree view, so you
end up having to open another Finder window if you can't get both the
source and destination folders visible at the same time. The tree view
also makes it easier to "drill down" to folders many levels deep more
easily.
Bob B.
Tom Dowdy
wrote:
> What I miss from the Windows Explorer is the ability to drag a file from
> any folder to any other folder. This is possible because of the "tree"
> view of the file system. The OS X Finder lacks this tree view, so you
> end up having to open another Finder window if you can't get both the
> source and destination folders visible at the same time.
Make a new Finder browser.
Click "Computer"
Click "List View"
Cmd-Click on any open triangle to open everything, or selectivly open
only the ones you need.
Entire folder heirarchy is now open, you can drag/scroll/copy to/from
any folder.
On 9, you get almost the same thing, but can't get the entire "computer"
in one window. If you have multiple volumes, this is a missing feature
there.
sbt
>
> What I miss from the Windows Explorer is the ability to drag a file from
> any folder to any other folder. This is possible because of the "tree"
> view of the file system. The OS X Finder lacks this tree view, so you
> end up having to open another Finder window if you can't get both the
> source and destination folders visible at the same time. The tree view
> also makes it easier to "drill down" to folders many levels deep more
> easily.
>
It's called a List View in the Mac Finder. Use the disclosure triangles
(what Pogue calls "flippy triangles") like the +/- buttons in a Windows
tree view. You do this and you can drag from any folder to any other
folder on the same disk (and, if you're in OS X, from anywhere in the
hierarchy to anywhere else).
--Spenser
Bob B.
Very good, thanks. This is pretty close to Explorer.
Bob B.
Bob B.
Well, List View isn't really the same as Explorer, where the tree is in
list mode but the contents of folders are in icon mode, but it does
allow me to do what I wanted to do, thanks.
Bob B.
Darrel E. Knutson
"T. Kelley Boylan" <t...@NOSPAM.ZenSupport.com> wrote:
>I haven't
>seen anything that really works that same was as Explorer. That doesn't
>mean it doesn't exist, but I've hunted for one too.
SNAX is about the best thing I have seen for this on Mac OS X. It's a fine
piece of software.
Darrel
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Martin Cox
Tom Dowdy <do...@apple.com> wrote:
> Cmd-Click on any open triangle to open everything, or selectivly open
> only the ones you need.
>
> Entire folder heirarchy is now open, you can drag/scroll/copy to/from
> any folder.
<ick>
Spring loaded folders in OS9 were infinitely better. And, sad to say,
the equivalent in Windows Explorer (where the folder expands if you hold
something over it) is also better.
Apple needs to get ass into gear and finish off the UI of OS X.
Hopefully now they've fixed the speed issues they'll be in a position to
actively start on the interface itself.
--
Martin Cox
"Wibble" - Capt Blackadder
Orac
Martin Cox <msp...@bigfoot.com.spammenot.invalid> wrote:
> In article <dowdy-1221A3....@news.apple.com>,
> Tom Dowdy <do...@apple.com> wrote:
>
> > Cmd-Click on any open triangle to open everything, or selectivly open
> > only the ones you need.
> >
> > Entire folder heirarchy is now open, you can drag/scroll/copy to/from
> > any folder.
>
> <ick>
>
> Spring loaded folders in OS9 were infinitely better. And, sad to say,
> the equivalent in Windows Explorer (where the folder expands if you hold
> something over it) is also better.
Actually, the one feature of OS 9 that I most miss in OS X is those
spring-loaded folders. I wonder if there's any utility that will give
back that functionality.
> Apple needs to get ass into gear and finish off the UI of OS X.
> Hopefully now they've fixed the speed issues they'll be in a position to
> actively start on the interface itself.
I'm hoping the same thing.
DubMaster
This can be automated to a point!
go to http://www.apple.com/applescript/macosx/toolbar_scripts/ and
download the: Tile Front Windows (¼¼) ‹ When clicked, this script will
move and resize the first and second Finder windows and place them
adjacent to each other and set to display in list view. A useful script
for comparing the contents of two directories or for moving items
between two folders. Use the previous script to reset the folder views
when done.
this can be installed in the finders toolbar or in the dock!
very usefull, really!
DubMaster
<Or...@mac.com> wrote:
|In article <mspace-9FF52C....@copper.ipg.tsnz.net>,
| Martin Cox <msp...@bigfoot.com.spammenot.invalid> wrote:
|
|> In article <dowdy-1221A3....@news.apple.com>,
|> Tom Dowdy <do...@apple.com> wrote:
|>
|> > Cmd-Click on any open triangle to open everything, or selectivly open
|> > only the ones you need.
|> >
|> > Entire folder heirarchy is now open, you can drag/scroll/copy to/from
|> > any folder.
|>
|> <ick>
|>
|> Spring loaded folders in OS9 were infinitely better. And, sad to say,
|> the equivalent in Windows Explorer (where the folder expands if you hold
|> something over it) is also better.
|
|Actually, the one feature of OS 9 that I most miss in OS X is those
|spring-loaded folders. I wonder if there's any utility that will give
|back that functionality.
|
Try Drop Drawers
<http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=10439&db=mac>
you actually have to put the folders into the drawers, but it kind a
works