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Charles H. Sampson
Apr 26, 2013, 3:11:09 PM4/26/13
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I can't find any version of MacSoup later than 2.8.3. I emailed
Stefan Haller at his advertised address, asking if he had stopped
development; the email was rejected by the postmaster because "account
suspended". Does anybody know what's going on?
Charlie
--
Nobody in this country got rich on his own. You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for. You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward. Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)
Stefan Haller at his advertised address, asking if he had stopped
development; the email was rejected by the postmaster because "account
suspended". Does anybody know what's going on?
Charlie
--
Nobody in this country got rich on his own. You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for. You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward. Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)
David Empson
Apr 26, 2013, 7:54:18 PM4/26/13
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Charles H. Sampson <csam...@inetworld.net> wrote:
> I can't find any version of MacSoup later than 2.8.3. I emailed
> Stefan Haller at his advertised address, asking if he had stopped
> development; the email was rejected by the postmaster because "account
> suspended". Does anybody know what's going on?
I've occasionally seen posts from Stefan, e.g. in uk.comp.sys.mac.
> I can't find any version of MacSoup later than 2.8.3. I emailed
> Stefan Haller at his advertised address, asking if he had stopped
> development; the email was rejected by the postmaster because "account
> suspended". Does anybody know what's going on?
Searching on Google Groups, his most recent post there was in August
2012. I also see he posted in comp.sys.mac.apps in March this year.
His web site is http://www.haller-berlin.de
MacSOUP hasn't had any significant development for several years, apart
from compatibility fixes with recent OS versions.
2.8.3 (which I'm running) is the current version. It had fixes for Snow
Leopard and still works in Mountain Lion.
Is there some reason you need a later version?
--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
Peter James
Apr 27, 2013, 2:47:39 AM4/27/13
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David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> http://www.haller-berlin.de
Quote from Stefan's web site.
"I'm a software engineer, currently employed at Ableton AG, a company
producing audio software.
I am the author of MacSOUP, a shareware newsreader for Macintosh. These
days I don't get around to working on it as much as I used to, but I am
still trying to improve it.
Still around, and s till working on MacSoup. Thank god. The best
newsreader for the Mac.
In my opinion of course.
Peter
--
He spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I could see
that, if not actually disgruntled he was far from being gruntled.
P.G. Wodehouse 1881 - 1975
> http://www.haller-berlin.de
Quote from Stefan's web site.
"I'm a software engineer, currently employed at Ableton AG, a company
producing audio software.
I am the author of MacSOUP, a shareware newsreader for Macintosh. These
days I don't get around to working on it as much as I used to, but I am
still trying to improve it.
Still around, and s till working on MacSoup. Thank god. The best
newsreader for the Mac.
In my opinion of course.
Peter
--
He spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I could see
that, if not actually disgruntled he was far from being gruntled.
P.G. Wodehouse 1881 - 1975
Hauke Fath
Apr 27, 2013, 9:44:32 AM4/27/13
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David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> 2.8.3 (which I'm running) is the current version. It had fixes for Snow
> Leopard and still works in Mountain Lion.
>
> Is there some reason you need a later version?
Well, you know what they say in IT: If it works, it's outdated.
> 2.8.3 (which I'm running) is the current version. It had fixes for Snow
> Leopard and still works in Mountain Lion.
>
> Is there some reason you need a later version?
I guess the constant "innovation" of the industry has left customers
with an urge to always have the newest bugs; what else would you
complain about in newsgroups?
;)
hauke
--
Now without signature.
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Charles H. Sampson
Apr 27, 2013, 5:00:30 PM4/27/13
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I thought I had run into some sort of MacSoup internal limit. However, I
tried it again right before posting this and it worked. So, as Emily
Litella would say, never mind.
Charles H. Sampson
Apr 27, 2013, 5:04:29 PM4/27/13
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Peter James <pfjam...@gm.mail.com> wrote:
> David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > http://www.haller-berlin.de
> Quote from Stefan's web site.
>
> "I'm a software engineer, currently employed at Ableton AG, a company
> producing audio software.
> I am the author of MacSOUP, a shareware newsreader for Macintosh. These
> days I don't get around to working on it as much as I used to, but I am
> still trying to improve it.
>
> Still around, and s till working on MacSoup. Thank god. The best
> newsreader for the Mac.
>
> In my opinion of course.
I don't know about its being the best newsreader for the Mac since
> David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > http://www.haller-berlin.de
> Quote from Stefan's web site.
>
> "I'm a software engineer, currently employed at Ableton AG, a company
> producing audio software.
> I am the author of MacSOUP, a shareware newsreader for Macintosh. These
> days I don't get around to working on it as much as I used to, but I am
> still trying to improve it.
>
> Still around, and s till working on MacSoup. Thank god. The best
> newsreader for the Mac.
>
> In my opinion of course.
I didn't do much researching before settling on it, but I will say that
it's one of the best pieces of software that I've ever seen, and I do
have a lot of experience to base that statement on.
David Empson
Apr 27, 2013, 6:26:06 PM4/27/13
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Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <1l1z6xd.1e5e79y1uuk134N%pfjam...@gm.mail.com>
It is an offline newsreader. That means it has separate phases for
communicating with the server and for reading/writing articles.
You fetch/post with a "Connect to Server" command, then it stores the
fetched articles locally, where you can read them and write followups
without needing an Internet connection. The followups are posted next
time you connect.
You have a list of subscribed groups, and MacSOUP only fetches articles
in those groups.
If you don't want to read most articles in a group you can configure
MacSOUP to fetch just the headers, then you can mark articles to
download the next time you connect. It can also automatically fetch or
not fetch articles based on killfile rules.
You can also configure each group for your own preferred duration of
keeping old posts, which in the old days could have been much longer
than your ISP's news server, but these days it is less of an issue. You
can also lock individual posts to be kept indefinitely.
--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
> In message <1l1z6xd.1e5e79y1uuk134N%pfjam...@gm.mail.com>
> Peter James <pfjam...@gm.mail.com> wrote:
> > David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> >> http://www.haller-berlin.de
> > Quote from Stefan's web site.
>
> > "I'm a software engineer, currently employed at Ableton AG, a company
> > producing audio software.
> > I am the author of MacSOUP, a shareware newsreader for Macintosh. These
> > days I don't get around to working on it as much as I used to, but I am
> > still trying to improve it.
>
> > Still around, and s till working on MacSoup. Thank god. The best
> > newsreader for the Mac.
>
> Doesn't MacSoup assume you are offline?
> > David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> >> http://www.haller-berlin.de
> > Quote from Stefan's web site.
>
> > "I'm a software engineer, currently employed at Ableton AG, a company
> > producing audio software.
> > I am the author of MacSOUP, a shareware newsreader for Macintosh. These
> > days I don't get around to working on it as much as I used to, but I am
> > still trying to improve it.
>
> > Still around, and s till working on MacSoup. Thank god. The best
> > newsreader for the Mac.
>
It is an offline newsreader. That means it has separate phases for
communicating with the server and for reading/writing articles.
You fetch/post with a "Connect to Server" command, then it stores the
fetched articles locally, where you can read them and write followups
without needing an Internet connection. The followups are posted next
time you connect.
You have a list of subscribed groups, and MacSOUP only fetches articles
in those groups.
If you don't want to read most articles in a group you can configure
MacSOUP to fetch just the headers, then you can mark articles to
download the next time you connect. It can also automatically fetch or
not fetch articles based on killfile rules.
You can also configure each group for your own preferred duration of
keeping old posts, which in the old days could have been much longer
than your ISP's news server, but these days it is less of an issue. You
can also lock individual posts to be kept indefinitely.
--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
Jamie Kahn Genet
Apr 28, 2013, 12:56:27 AM4/28/13
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> Peter James <pfjam...@gm.mail.com> wrote:
>
> > David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.haller-berlin.de
> > Quote from Stefan's web site.
> >
> > "I'm a software engineer, currently employed at Ableton AG, a company
> > producing audio software.
> > I am the author of MacSOUP, a shareware newsreader for Macintosh. These
> > days I don't get around to working on it as much as I used to, but I am
> > still trying to improve it.
> >
> > Still around, and s till working on MacSoup. Thank god. The best
> > newsreader for the Mac.
> >
> > In my opinion of course.
>
> I don't know about its being the best newsreader for the Mac since
> I didn't do much researching before settling on it, but I will say that
> it's one of the best pieces of software that I've ever seen, and I do
> have a lot of experience to base that statement on.
>
> Charlie
Despite lack of development into new features, MacSOUP has easily been
>
> > David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.haller-berlin.de
> > Quote from Stefan's web site.
> >
> > "I'm a software engineer, currently employed at Ableton AG, a company
> > producing audio software.
> > I am the author of MacSOUP, a shareware newsreader for Macintosh. These
> > days I don't get around to working on it as much as I used to, but I am
> > still trying to improve it.
> >
> > Still around, and s till working on MacSoup. Thank god. The best
> > newsreader for the Mac.
> >
> > In my opinion of course.
>
> I don't know about its being the best newsreader for the Mac since
> I didn't do much researching before settling on it, but I will say that
> it's one of the best pieces of software that I've ever seen, and I do
> have a lot of experience to base that statement on.
>
> Charlie
the best piece of shareware I ever purchased, for the one-time modest
amount of fee paid, and over a decade of quality trouble-free usage. It
even beats GraphicConverter in terms of value for money.
My only big regret for MacSOUP is it used to be the best ever email
client for mailing lists (and it's plain text only email client was
merely an afterthought, to be used for email replies to usenet posts!),
with it's superior graphical thread tree and true references-based
threading. Sadly the lack of HTML support combined with increasing usage
of HTML in emails (ugg) that don't even need HTML, has made it more
effort than it's worth.
Still, MacSOUP remains a fantastic Usenet client, and baring any changes
to the Usenet spec, and with Stefan's continued maintenance, it will
remain my favorite plain text Usenet client for another decade! :-)
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Howard
Apr 29, 2013, 2:00:57 PM4/29/13
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Jamie Kahn Genet <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Still, MacSOUP remains a fantastic Usenet client, and baring any changes
> to the Usenet spec, and with Stefan's continued maintenance, it will
> remain my favorite plain text Usenet client for another decade! :-)
I agree - having been though all of the competition over the years.
> Still, MacSOUP remains a fantastic Usenet client, and baring any changes
> to the Usenet spec, and with Stefan's continued maintenance, it will
> remain my favorite plain text Usenet client for another decade! :-)
I don't believe Stefan is actually continuing any maintenance whatsoever
though.
I am on 10.6.8 and 2.8.2 and haven't had a problem for years .. one of
the best behaved and most satisfying app I have ever acquired.
Howard
TaliesinSoft
Apr 29, 2013, 4:22:43 PM4/29/13
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On 2013-04-26 19:11:09 +0000, Charles H. Sampson said:
> I can't find any version of MacSoup later than 2.8.3. I emailed
> Stefan Haller at his advertised address, asking if he had stopped
> development; the email was rejected by the postmaster because "account
> suspended". Does anybody know what's going on?
You might take a look at Unison. I'm an excedingly happy user and the
> I can't find any version of MacSoup later than 2.8.3. I emailed
> Stefan Haller at his advertised address, asking if he had stopped
> development; the email was rejected by the postmaster because "account
> suspended". Does anybody know what's going on?
support has been first rate!
--
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas
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Howard S Shubs
Apr 29, 2013, 7:04:36 PM4/29/13
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In article <slrnkntt8h....@mbp55.local>,
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Unison does look nice, and is supported and stable, but I can't stand
> it. (and I like Panic's software in general).
Agreed. If they'd make their filtering more like that available in
MT-NW, I'd consider them.
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Unison does look nice, and is supported and stable, but I can't stand
> it. (and I like Panic's software in general).
Agreed. If they'd make their filtering more like that available in
MT-NW, I'd consider them.
Jamie Kahn Genet
Apr 30, 2013, 6:36:46 AM4/30/13
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can't really blame him. As much as I love Usenet, I am well aware the
market nowadays is tiny for a plain text only offline Mac Usenet
client). Last I heard he'd put MacSOUP in permanent maintenance mode.
Till it actually breaks I've no reason to believe otherwise. Especially
as Stefan has been on the ball about releasing past compatibility fixes.
Jamie Kahn Genet
Apr 30, 2013, 6:36:47 AM4/30/13
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Otherwise MacSOUP is so very much better.
Jamie Kahn Genet
Apr 30, 2013, 6:36:48 AM4/30/13
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Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <au834j...@mid.individual.net>
> Neither Unison nor MacSoup support a standard newsrc file. Unison has
> terrible filtering capabilities (really really terrible), and MacSoup
> makes you download all the messages before you can read them.
Actually MacSOUP can be set on a group by group basis to only download
headers, with marked articles later being downloaded in full.
> Unison does look nice, and is supported and stable, but I can't stand
> it. (and I like Panic's software in general).
We agree on that point.
> In message <au834j...@mid.individual.net>
> terrible filtering capabilities (really really terrible), and MacSoup
> makes you download all the messages before you can read them.
Actually MacSOUP can be set on a group by group basis to only download
headers, with marked articles later being downloaded in full.
> Unison does look nice, and is supported and stable, but I can't stand
> it. (and I like Panic's software in general).
Howard
Apr 30, 2013, 7:01:08 PM4/30/13
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Jamie Kahn Genet <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Howard <Howar...@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Jamie Kahn Genet <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> >
> > > Still, MacSOUP remains a fantastic Usenet client, and baring any changes
> > > to the Usenet spec, and with Stefan's continued maintenance, it will
> > > remain my favorite plain text Usenet client for another decade! :-)
> >
> > I agree - having been though all of the competition over the years.
> >
> > I don't believe Stefan is actually continuing any maintenance whatsoever
> > though.
> >
> > I am on 10.6.8 and 2.8.2 and haven't had a problem for years .. one of
> > the best behaved and most satisfying app I have ever acquired.
> >
> > Howard
>
> Well, there's your answer - if it aint broken, he's not fixing it (and I
> can't really blame him. As much as I love Usenet, I am well aware the
> market nowadays is tiny for a plain text only offline Mac Usenet
> client). Last I heard he'd put MacSOUP in permanent maintenance mode.
> Till it actually breaks I've no reason to believe otherwise.
Agreed.
> Howard <Howar...@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Jamie Kahn Genet <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> >
> > > Still, MacSOUP remains a fantastic Usenet client, and baring any changes
> > > to the Usenet spec, and with Stefan's continued maintenance, it will
> > > remain my favorite plain text Usenet client for another decade! :-)
> >
> > I agree - having been though all of the competition over the years.
> >
> > I don't believe Stefan is actually continuing any maintenance whatsoever
> > though.
> >
> > I am on 10.6.8 and 2.8.2 and haven't had a problem for years .. one of
> > the best behaved and most satisfying app I have ever acquired.
> >
> > Howard
>
> Well, there's your answer - if it aint broken, he's not fixing it (and I
> can't really blame him. As much as I love Usenet, I am well aware the
> market nowadays is tiny for a plain text only offline Mac Usenet
> client). Last I heard he'd put MacSOUP in permanent maintenance mode.
> Till it actually breaks I've no reason to believe otherwise.
--
Howard
TaliesinSoft
Apr 30, 2013, 11:56:18 PM4/30/13
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Recently in this thread I posted the following….
> You might take a look at Unison. I'm an excedingly happy user and the
> support has been first rate!
There were several responses that voiced dissatisfaction with the
filtering provided by Unisoon. I'd appreciate seeing some specifics. As
of now I've had no problem with filtering but I'll admit that my
filtering is on the simple side.
> You might take a look at Unison. I'm an excedingly happy user and the
> support has been first rate!
filtering provided by Unisoon. I'd appreciate seeing some specifics. As
of now I've had no problem with filtering but I'll admit that my
filtering is on the simple side.
Jamie Kahn Genet
May 1, 2013, 1:49:53 AM5/1/13
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of time.
Howard S Shubs
May 1, 2013, 1:50:30 AM5/1/13
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In article <aubi32...@mid.individual.net>,
It has been several years since I tried it, so I don't remember the
details. However, what I *do* think I remember is that it didn't know
regex, and IIRC it didn't have filtering on each level of heirarchy, and
it didn't have filter expiration. I don't remember if it had colors
based on filters, but that's a good thing too.
Not having regex is a show stopper. That's REQUIRED, and they don't
have it. They should take a REALLY good look at MT-NW's filtering, and
implement it. Maybe speak with Simon Fraser and adopt his code? The
MT-NW filtering interface could use work, but it's not bad as it is.
details. However, what I *do* think I remember is that it didn't know
regex, and IIRC it didn't have filtering on each level of heirarchy, and
it didn't have filter expiration. I don't remember if it had colors
based on filters, but that's a good thing too.
Not having regex is a show stopper. That's REQUIRED, and they don't
have it. They should take a REALLY good look at MT-NW's filtering, and
implement it. Maybe speak with Simon Fraser and adopt his code? The
MT-NW filtering interface could use work, but it's not bad as it is.
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TaliesinSoft
May 1, 2013, 2:35:34 PM5/1/13
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As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
Coulter of Panic…
We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
were.
One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
"References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
filtering.
If you're aware of current shortcomings, we're absolutely interested in
looking into those! We'd love to hear about specific use cases that
aren't yet supported.
Coulter of Panic…
We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
were.
One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
"References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
filtering.
If you're aware of current shortcomings, we're absolutely interested in
looking into those! We'd love to hear about specific use cases that
aren't yet supported.
Message has been deleted
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Jolly Roger
May 1, 2013, 10:07:38 PM5/1/13
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In article <slrnko3dpq....@ananke.local>,
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
long ago (1.x?).
--
Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me.
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting
messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google
Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.
JR
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> > Coulter of Panic�
>
> > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> > were.
>
> > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> > filtering.
>
> > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
>
> regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
> > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> > Coulter of Panic�
>
> > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> > were.
>
> > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> > filtering.
>
> > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
>
Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
long ago (1.x?).
--
Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me.
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting
messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google
Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.
JR
Jamie Kahn Genet
May 1, 2013, 10:51:35 PM5/1/13
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Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnko3dpq....@ananke.local>,
> Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> > In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> > TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> > > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> > > Coulter of Panic…
> >
> > > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> > > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> > > were.
> >
> > > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> > > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> > > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> > > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> > > filtering.
> >
> > > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
> >
> > regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
>
> Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
> long ago (1.x?).
Huh, you sure JR? I never found any when I tried it back in OS X 10.3
> In article <slrnko3dpq....@ananke.local>,
> Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> > In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> > TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> > > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> > > Coulter of Panic…
> >
> > > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> > > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> > > were.
> >
> > > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> > > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> > > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> > > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> > > filtering.
> >
> > > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
> >
> > regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
>
> Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
> long ago (1.x?).
days.
TaliesinSoft
May 1, 2013, 11:30:47 PM5/1/13
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On 2013-05-02 02:51:35 +0000, Jamie Kahn Genet said:
[in response to Jolly Roger stating]
>> Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
>> long ago (1.x?).
>
> Huh, you sure JR? I never found any when I tried it back in OS X 10.3
> days.
From Tim Coulter, speaking for Panic…
Unison *does* support regex filters, and has since at least 2005, if
not before.
[in response to Jolly Roger stating]
>> Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
>> long ago (1.x?).
>
> Huh, you sure JR? I never found any when I tried it back in OS X 10.3
> days.
Unison *does* support regex filters, and has since at least 2005, if
not before.
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Jamie Kahn Genet
May 2, 2013, 3:11:21 AM5/2/13
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Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <jollyroger-3AFD7...@news.individual.net>
> to be wrong.
That gels with my memory. It had extremely basic filtering when I tried
it.
> In message <jollyroger-3AFD7...@news.individual.net>
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnko3dpq....@ananke.local>,
> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> >> In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> >> TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> >> > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> >> > Coulter of Panic?
> > In article <slrnko3dpq....@ananke.local>,
> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> >> In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> >> TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> >> > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> >>
> >> > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> >> > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> >> > were.
> >>
> >> > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> >> > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> >> > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> >> > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> >> > filtering.
> >>
> >> > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
> >>
> >> regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
>
> > Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
> > long ago (1.x?).
>
> Full regex? I remember it allowing only '*' wildcard, but I am prepared
> >> > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> >> > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> >> > were.
> >>
> >> > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> >> > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> >> > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> >> > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> >> > filtering.
> >>
> >> > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
> >>
> >> regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
>
> > Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
> > long ago (1.x?).
>
> to be wrong.
That gels with my memory. It had extremely basic filtering when I tried
it.
Jolly Roger
May 2, 2013, 1:09:15 PM5/2/13
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In article <slrnko41vb....@mbp55.local>,
it up in later updates. Then again my memory has been faulty before... ;
)
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <jollyroger-3AFD7...@news.individual.net>
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> In message <jollyroger-3AFD7...@news.individual.net>
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnko3dpq....@ananke.local>,
> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> >> In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> >> TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> >> > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> >> > Coulter of Panicä
> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> >> In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> >> TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> >> > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> >>
> >> > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> >> > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> >> > were.
> >>
> >> > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> >> > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> >> > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> >> > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> >> > filtering.
> >>
> >> > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
> >>
> >> regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
>
> > Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
> > long ago (1.x?).
>
> >> > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> >> > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> >> > were.
> >>
> >> > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> >> > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> >> > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> >> > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> >> > filtering.
> >>
> >> > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
> >>
> >> regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
>
> > Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
> > long ago (1.x?).
>
> Full regex? I remember it allowing only '*' wildcard, but I am prepared
> to be wrong.
I think it started out fairly basic, but I seem to recall them beefing
> to be wrong.
it up in later updates. Then again my memory has been faulty before... ;
)
Jolly Roger
May 2, 2013, 1:09:58 PM5/2/13
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In article <1l28zvy.1m3e71k1o3dsmmN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
regular expressions at the time to test it out.
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <slrnko3dpq....@ananke.local>,
> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >
> > > In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> > > TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> > > > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> > > > Coulter of PanicŠ
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <slrnko3dpq....@ananke.local>,
> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >
> > > In message <aud5jm...@mid.individual.net>
> > > TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> > > > As for filtering in Unison I just received the following from Tim
> > >
> > > > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> > > > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> > > > were.
> > >
> > > > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> > > > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> > > > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> > > > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> > > > filtering.
> > >
> > > > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
> > >
> > > regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
> >
> > Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
> > long ago (1.x?).
>
> Huh, you sure JR? I never found any when I tried it back in OS X 10.3
> days.
Yeah I remember because I actually wrote one or two filters using
> > > > We've beefed up Unison's filtering capabilities over the past several
> > > > years, so the complaints about filtering aren't as true as they once
> > > > were.
> > >
> > > > One of the main requests was for the ability to filter against the
> > > > "References" header, which we added in 2.1 (released in August 2010).
> > > > Another is the scoring system, added in the same release. These two
> > > > additions seemed to cover the majority of requests for additional
> > > > filtering.
> > >
> > > > If you're aware of current shortcomings,
> > >
> > > regex. Seems silly to not have it, it's built in to the OS.
> >
> > Unison had regular expression support when I was still using it long,
> > long ago (1.x?).
>
> Huh, you sure JR? I never found any when I tried it back in OS X 10.3
> days.
regular expressions at the time to test it out.
Charles H. Sampson
May 7, 2013, 12:31:37 PM5/7/13
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> David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > Charles H. Sampson <csam...@inetworld.net> wrote:
> >
>
> > Charles H. Sampson <csam...@inetworld.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I can't find any version of MacSoup later than 2.8.3. I emailed
> > > Stefan Haller at his advertised address, asking if he had stopped
> > > development; the email was rejected by the postmaster because "account
> > > suspended". Does anybody know what's going on?
> >
> > I've occasionally seen posts from Stefan, e.g. in uk.comp.sys.mac.
> > > Stefan Haller at his advertised address, asking if he had stopped
> > > development; the email was rejected by the postmaster because "account
> > > suspended". Does anybody know what's going on?
> >
> > Searching on Google Groups, his most recent post there was in August
> > 2012. I also see he posted in comp.sys.mac.apps in March this year.
> >
> > His web site is http://www.haller-berlin.de
> >
> > MacSOUP hasn't had any significant development for several years, apart
> > from compatibility fixes with recent OS versions.
> >
> > 2.8.3 (which I'm running) is the current version. It had fixes for Snow
> > Leopard and still works in Mountain Lion.
> >
> > Is there some reason you need a later version?
>
> I haven't been able to fetch the list of all groups for some time.
> I thought I had run into some sort of MacSoup internal limit. However, I
> tried it again right before posting this and it worked. So, as Emily
> Litella would say, never mind.
I tried fetching all groups again (I'm looking for a newly created
group) and this time it hung up, as it had been doing before. It got to
111,129 groups.
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