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JKanuch

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Aug 24, 2002, 6:14:57 PM8/24/02
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I just got Jaguar yesterday. I may be the last to know, but I had no
idea that Apple was killing off HappyMac (seen when the OS first
launches on the mac since forever) in OS 10.2. It's replaced by an
ugly, corporate, gray apple logo.

Many people know that the old 1970s standard HappyFace "died of fame
and glamour," or more specifically cirrhosis of the liver, sometime in
the 1980s. Police reportedly found him, after neighbors complained of a
foul odor, penniless and laying in a gutter in his own filth and the
stench of death.

Why did Apple kill HappyMac?

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J Kanuch

"You've never seen death? Look in the mirror every day and you'll see
it like bees working in a glass hive" - HappyMac, quoting Jean Cocteau,
2002.

Mr. Neutron

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Aug 24, 2002, 8:42:06 PM8/24/02
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JKanuch wrote:

> Why did Apple kill HappyMac?

maybe happymac was one of the first rats to jump ship,
having realised the new OS was nothing to smile about ;-)

Greg Weston

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Aug 24, 2002, 8:49:02 PM8/24/02
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In article <240820021518599167%nos...@nospam.com>, JKanuch
<nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

> I just got Jaguar yesterday. I may be the last to know, but I had no
> idea that Apple was killing off HappyMac (seen when the OS first
> launches on the mac since forever) in OS 10.2. It's replaced by an
> ugly, corporate, gray apple logo.
>

> Why did Apple kill HappyMac?

Probably because it bore no resemblance to any machine Apple's built in
a decade and has no meaning for a large percentage of current users.
Not more than two days before I heard they were replacing the startup
screen, my wife had commented that we were probably going to have to
explain what it was when our toddler gets a bit older.

G

Jerry Kindall

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Aug 24, 2002, 9:19:16 PM8/24/02
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In article <240820022048434241%gwesto...@CAPSattbi.com>, Greg
Weston <gwesto...@CAPSattbi.com> wrote:

Indeed. I actually kind of like the new look; it matches the hardware
much better. Of course, regardless of whether it's a happy Mac or a
gray Apple logo, you'll see it, what, once a month or so, given that
it's X and not 9? Not worth getting worked up about.

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Jason

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Aug 25, 2002, 1:01:55 AM8/25/02
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In article <240820022048434241%gwesto...@CAPSattbi.com>, Greg Weston <gwesto...@CAPSattbi.com> wrote:

Alas, Jobs needs to learn about TRADITION....

That Happy Mac has been there since the beginning, and should remain there
as a token of respect to the original that started the revolution.

JemmyDucks

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Aug 25, 2002, 1:12:20 AM8/25/02
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In article <250820021501553639%matreya@remove_currawong.net>, Jason
<matreya@remove_currawong.net> wrote:

> That Happy Mac has been there since the beginning, and should remain there
> as a token of respect to the original that started the revolution.

FWIW, I agree with you. The happy Mac had charm.

Matti Haveri

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Aug 25, 2002, 3:52:51 AM8/25/02
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In article <240820022048434241%gwesto...@CAPSattbi.com>,
Greg Weston <gwesto...@CAPSattbi.com> wrote:

> > Why did Apple kill HappyMac?
>
> Probably because it bore no resemblance to any machine Apple's built in
> a decade and has no meaning for a large percentage of current users.

Maybe Apple got so many support calls from new users that they had to
change it...

> Not more than two days before I heard they were replacing the startup
> screen, my wife had commented that we were probably going to have to
> explain what it was when our toddler gets a bit older.

Just say it is a happy little computer :)

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Olivier M.

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Aug 25, 2002, 6:23:35 AM8/25/02
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<matreya@remove_currawong.net> ecrivait/schrieb/wrote:

> Alas, Jobs needs to learn about TRADITION....
>
> That Happy Mac has been there since the beginning, and should remain there
> as a token of respect to the original that started the revolution.

It is still there when you start Classic... :-)
Olivier

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Onar Vikingstad

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Aug 25, 2002, 7:21:43 AM8/25/02
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Jason <matreya@remove_currawong.net> wrote:

> Alas, Jobs needs to learn about TRADITION....
>
> That Happy Mac has been there since the beginning, and should remain there
> as a token of respect to the original that started the revolution.

Well, while I don't really care what shows up the first 5 seconds of my
bootup process every 14 days, I think the new look is very stylish.

While it's a little strange to not have the HappyMac there anymore, I
think this shows us that Apple is more interested in marketing the Apple
logo, instead of the old Mac that no one but veteran Mac users know what
was...

But hey, if you miss your HappyMac, just boot up Classic :)

BTW, the HappyMac in OS X (which now is gone) was not the same HappyMac
as the "Classic" HappyMac. The HappyMac also evolved, from a black and
white logo to a color logo at one point. Before the Mac days, the Apple
machines had a rainbow logo IIRC.

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Greg Weston

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Aug 25, 2002, 8:33:48 AM8/25/02
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In article <1fhh38b.oa6quz1ewzjy8N%on...@vikingstad.com>, Onar
Vikingstad <on...@vikingstad.com> wrote:

> BTW, the HappyMac in OS X (which now is gone) was not the same HappyMac
> as the "Classic" HappyMac. The HappyMac also evolved, from a black and
> white logo to a color logo at one point. Before the Mac days, the Apple
> machines had a rainbow logo IIRC.

On-screen at start? No. Just monochrome text on a monochrome background.

G

Tom Harrington

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Aug 25, 2002, 2:32:45 PM8/25/02
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> I just got Jaguar yesterday. I may be the last to know, but I had no
> idea that Apple was killing off HappyMac (seen when the OS first
> launches on the mac since forever) in OS 10.2. It's replaced by an
> ugly, corporate, gray apple logo.
>
> Many people know that the old 1970s standard HappyFace "died of fame
> and glamour," or more specifically cirrhosis of the liver, sometime in
> the 1980s. Police reportedly found him, after neighbors complained of a
> foul odor, penniless and laying in a gutter in his own filth and the
> stench of death.
>
> Why did Apple kill HappyMac?

The happy Mac was laid off in a corporate cost-cutting move. It
currently lives in San Jose, and says that it is "between jobs".

--
Tom Harrington -- tph (at) pcisys (dot) net
"And you may ask yourself,
well, how did I get here?"
-- Talking Heads

clvrmnky

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Aug 26, 2002, 12:14:06 PM8/26/02
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Tom Harrington wrote:
> In article <240820021518599167%nos...@nospam.com>,
> JKanuch <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I just got Jaguar yesterday. I may be the last to know, but I had no
>>idea that Apple was killing off HappyMac (seen when the OS first
>>launches on the mac since forever) in OS 10.2. It's replaced by an
>>ugly, corporate, gray apple logo.
>>
>>Many people know that the old 1970s standard HappyFace "died of fame
>>and glamour," or more specifically cirrhosis of the liver, sometime in
>>the 1980s. Police reportedly found him, after neighbors complained of a
>>foul odor, penniless and laying in a gutter in his own filth and the
>>stench of death.
>>
>>Why did Apple kill HappyMac?
>
>
> The happy Mac was laid off in a corporate cost-cutting move. It
> currently lives in San Jose, and says that it is "between jobs".
>
I think he moved in with the "Flashing Question Mark Mac" who still does
some consulting for Apple, but is trying to take some time off to get
his Nu Metal band off the ground.

David C.

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Aug 30, 2002, 3:35:19 PM8/30/02
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Greg Weston wrote:
>
> Probably because it bore no resemblance to any machine Apple's built in
> a decade and has no meaning for a large percentage of current users.
> Not more than two days before I heard they were replacing the startup
> screen, my wife had commented that we were probably going to have to
> explain what it was when our toddler gets a bit older.

Good point, but if that's the real reason, Apple could've found a better
solution.

A happy iMac would be an appropriate replacement (at least for iMac
hardware).

Does anybody here know where in the system that icon is located? I'm
hoping it won't be too hard to replace it with something else. Maybe a
Jaguar-spotted happy-mac icon or something.

-- David

TAPKAE

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Aug 30, 2002, 3:55:58 PM8/30/02
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David C. was abducted by aliens and was brainwashed thusly:

> Does anybody here know where in the system that icon is located? I'm
> hoping it won't be too hard to replace it with something else. Maybe a
> Jaguar-spotted happy-mac icon or something.

I'd settle for a happy apple. But it would have to have the Macintosh split
face on it.


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NeoLuddite

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Aug 30, 2002, 4:02:41 PM8/30/02
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In article <akohdp$ek8$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
"David C." <sha...@techie.com> wrote:

I don't know if this is different from the Happy Mac icon in X but
there are 2 Happy Mac icons in the Mac OS 9.1 system suitcase that you
can grab with ResEdit.

Resource Type 'cicn'
ID -20020 Happy Mac
ID -20024 Winking Happy Mac

I don't see a Sad Mac but it's probably in the ROM. Fortunately I
haven't see a Sad Mac since the days of the Mac SE.

Can OS X have a customized Startup picture like most of the Pre-X OSes?

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Eric Pepke

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:43:10 PM8/31/02
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JKanuch <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<240820021518599167%nos...@nospam.com>...
>
> Why did Apple kill HappyMac?

Laugh a while you can, monkey boy, but I've done a lot of thinking about this
when trying to understand why good user interfaces have a tendency to fail in
the marketplace.

People, basically, hate and fear computers. Practically every depiction of
a computer in popular fiction is evil. The computer wants to kill you (2001)
or rape you (Demon Seed) or take over the world (Colossus) or start WW III
(War Games) or start war in space (ST:TOS The Ultimate Computer) or let the
alien on board (Alien). Any successful piece of software must, deliberately
or not, address and ameliorate this fear. There are two basic ways of doing
this: make the computer seem cute, or make it seem stupid.

Microsoft makes the computer seem stupid, and Apple makes the computer seem
cute. Cute, however, doesn't cut it with corporate types, who are almost
proud of dealing with stupid every day, as long as nobody smiles. The entire
life of the Mac, people have been saying "uh huh, what a toy, joke of a
computer--look, it even smiles."

Tom Harrington

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:04:44 PM8/31/02
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In article <ef37f531.02083...@posting.google.com>,
epe...@acm.org (Eric Pepke) wrote:

*sigh* The sad part is that this makes a whole lot of sense, and is
quite likely true.

--
Tom Harrington, tph (at) pcisys (dot) net

matt neuburg

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Sep 1, 2002, 12:51:37 AM9/1/02
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In article <tph-BA1637.20044431082002@localhost>, Tom Harrington
<t...@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> *sigh* The sad part is that this makes a whole lot of sense, and is
> quite likely true.

Yes, first we had the decline and fall of color (remember the striped
apple? remember icons in the menu bar being colorful instead of this
dreadful black-and-white scheme?), now we've the decline and fall of
humor. It seems all too likely that someone just takes himself a bit too
seriously. m.

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Jason

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Sep 1, 2002, 5:19:20 AM9/1/02
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In article <ef37f531.02083...@posting.google.com>, Eric Pepke <epe...@acm.org> wrote:

> JKanuch <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<240820021518599167%nos...@nospam.com>...
> >
> > Why did Apple kill HappyMac?
>
> Laugh a while you can, monkey boy, but I've done a lot of thinking about this
> when trying to understand why good user interfaces have a tendency to fail in
> the marketplace.
>
> People, basically, hate and fear computers. Practically every depiction of
> a computer in popular fiction is evil. The computer wants to kill you (2001)
> or rape you (Demon Seed) or take over the world (Colossus) or start WW III
> (War Games) or start war in space (ST:TOS The Ultimate Computer) or let the
> alien on board (Alien). Any successful piece of software must, deliberately
> or not, address and ameliorate this fear. There are two basic ways of doing
> this: make the computer seem cute, or make it seem stupid.

Heh, Colossus is the name of my G4-800-DP :)

> Microsoft makes the computer seem stupid, and Apple makes the computer seem
> cute. Cute, however, doesn't cut it with corporate types, who are almost
> proud of dealing with stupid every day, as long as nobody smiles. The entire
> life of the Mac, people have been saying "uh huh, what a toy, joke of a
> computer--look, it even smiles."

Well, they're just lamers who prefer Beige everything :)

Gordon B. Alley

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Sep 1, 2002, 10:53:56 PM9/1/02
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In article <010920021919207800%matreya@remove_currawong.net>,
Jason <matreya@remove_currawong.net> wrote:

Yeah, but those lamers form a huge market that Apple wants a bigger
piece of. :-)

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Tom Harrington

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Sep 1, 2002, 11:20:03 PM9/1/02
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In article
<matt-31080...@adsl-64-160-26-51.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net>,
ma...@tidbits.com (matt neuburg) wrote:

> In article <tph-BA1637.20044431082002@localhost>, Tom Harrington
> <t...@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:
>
> > *sigh* The sad part is that this makes a whole lot of sense, and is
> > quite likely true.
>
> Yes, first we had the decline and fall of color (remember the striped
> apple? remember icons in the menu bar being colorful instead of this
> dreadful black-and-white scheme?), now we've the decline and fall of
> humor. It seems all too likely that someone just takes himself a bit too
> seriously. m.

And of course, this is why they killed Clarus, too.

Main G3

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Sep 15, 2002, 2:31:57 PM9/15/02
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isnt there any way to hack the resources in the OSX.x family? I changed
all my icons in every OS since 6.0.x on to 9.2.2. That solves the
problems.......

perfesser

Tim Lance

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