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Patty Winter

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Feb 14, 2016, 1:50:05 PM2/14/16
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Someone sent me a Pages document to edit. I rarely work in Pages, but
I have successfully tracked changes in Pages documents previously. But
for some reason, I can't get this particular document to do so. When I
delete a word, it just disappears. No strikethrough, no changed font
color, nothing shows up in the Comments & Changes pane, and the top
of the page still says "0 Comments & Changes." If I add text, same
thing: there's no indication that it's added text; it's just there.

I created a new Pages document, turned on tracking, and all was well.
What setting might be preventing the proper response of change tracking
in the document that was sent to me?


Patty

Alan Browne

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Feb 14, 2016, 2:01:29 PM2/14/16
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With changes enabled, go to the "gear" symbol just above the doc (upper
right) and set Markup (vice Markup Without Deletions). Make sure Markup
is not in Paused mode.

Pages 5.6.1

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Patty Winter

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Feb 14, 2016, 3:00:04 PM2/14/16
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In article <0OudnfVmYbWaUl3L...@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan....@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>On 2016-02-14 13:42, Patty Winter wrote:
>
>With changes enabled, go to the "gear" symbol just above the doc (upper
>right) and set Markup (vice Markup Without Deletions). Make sure Markup
>is not in Paused mode.

Sorry, should have mentioned, I already checked both of those settings.


Patty

Patty Winter

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Feb 14, 2016, 3:45:07 PM2/14/16
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In article <56c0ca7e$0$32914$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
Patty Winter <pat...@sonic.net> wrote:
>Someone sent me a Pages document to edit. I rarely work in Pages, but
>I have successfully tracked changes in Pages documents previously. But
>for some reason, I can't get this particular document to do so.

I just found some discussions on the Apple support site about change
tracking not working in tables, and fewer mentions about it not working
in text boxes. I found this page from just over a year ago about the iOS
version of Pages not supporting tracking in either of those two situations:

https://support.apple.com/kb/PH17142?locale=en_US

So apparently Apple has crippled the OS X version of Pages with the
same limitations, sheesh!

The document that was sent to me does indeed have text boxes. Also,
I just added a text box to my new test document, and the change tracking
that was working fine outside the text box does nothing inside it. So
that must be the answer to my problem with the received document. I'm
going to send a comment to Apple about this; it's really lame.


Patty

Alan Browne

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Feb 14, 2016, 4:26:04 PM2/14/16
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On 2016-02-14 15:36, Patty Winter wrote:
> In article <56c0ca7e$0$32914$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> Patty Winter <pat...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Someone sent me a Pages document to edit. I rarely work in Pages, but
>> I have successfully tracked changes in Pages documents previously. But
>> for some reason, I can't get this particular document to do so.
>
> I just found some discussions on the Apple support site about change
> tracking not working in tables, and fewer mentions about it not working

Ah - well you didn't mention tables or text boxes, so I didn't test
that. Just tried it and can confirm that it doesn't work.

> in text boxes. I found this page from just over a year ago about the iOS
> version of Pages not supporting tracking in either of those two situations:
>
> https://support.apple.com/kb/PH17142?locale=en_US
>
> So apparently Apple has crippled the OS X version of Pages with the
> same limitations, sheesh!
>
> The document that was sent to me does indeed have text boxes. Also,
> I just added a text box to my new test document, and the change tracking
> that was working fine outside the text box does nothing inside it. So
> that must be the answer to my problem with the received document. I'm
> going to send a comment to Apple about this; it's really lame.

Indeed. I've never done anything in Pages more than about 4 or 5 pages
long. Usually use Word with no issues. Though for doing a nice page
with a lot of graphic/photo insertions I prefer Pages - much easier
editing - then export that to include into a Word Doc.

Davoud

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Feb 14, 2016, 4:29:14 PM2/14/16
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Patty Winter:
> Someone sent me a Pages document to edit. I rarely work in Pages, but
> I have successfully tracked changes in Pages documents previously. But
> for some reason, I can't get this particular document to do so...

Advise your acquaintance to work in MS Word.

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Alan Browne

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Feb 14, 2016, 4:41:51 PM2/14/16
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On 2016-02-14 15:36, Patty Winter wrote:
Yep. You can drop the hint in the Apple Developer Bug Reporter too.

Patty Winter

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Feb 14, 2016, 5:20:04 PM2/14/16
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In article <140220161629116461%st...@sky.net>, Davoud <a...@bbb.ccc> wrote:
>Patty Winter:
>> Someone sent me a Pages document to edit. I rarely work in Pages, but
>> I have successfully tracked changes in Pages documents previously. But
>> for some reason, I can't get this particular document to do so...
>
>Advise your acquaintance to work in MS Word.

It isn't my place to tell my clients how they should run their business.


Patty Winter

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Feb 14, 2016, 5:20:04 PM2/14/16
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In article <8N6dnXRerLd0bV3L...@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan....@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>On 2016-02-14 15:36, Patty Winter wrote:
>> In article <56c0ca7e$0$32914$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
>> Patty Winter <pat...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>> I just found some discussions on the Apple support site about change
>> tracking not working in tables, and fewer mentions about it not working
>
>Ah - well you didn't mention tables or text boxes, so I didn't test
>that.

I can't mention something I don't know! I didn't know there were
text boxes in the document until I started Googling around for any
reasons why tracking wouldn't work and found mentions of tables and
text boxes.


Patty

Patty Winter

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Feb 14, 2016, 5:30:04 PM2/14/16
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In article <JsqdnfCn0_8AaV3L...@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne <alan....@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>On 2016-02-14 15:36, Patty Winter wrote:

[snip]


>> I'm
>> going to send a comment to Apple about this; it's really lame.
>
>Yep. You can drop the hint in the Apple Developer Bug Reporter too.

I found a page by that name on Apple's website:

https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/using-bug-reporter/

But it wouldn't take my Apple ID and password. Maybe you have to be a
registered developer to access that site. I was able to sign in to the
main Apple website okay, so clearly my Apple ID and password are working
okay.

Anyway, I sent a complaint via Pages Feedback.


Patty

Lewis

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Feb 14, 2016, 8:36:57 PM2/14/16
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In message <56c0e53c$0$32858$742e...@news.sonic.net>
Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:

> In article <56c0ca7e$0$32914$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> Patty Winter <pat...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>Someone sent me a Pages document to edit. I rarely work in Pages, but
>>I have successfully tracked changes in Pages documents previously. But
>>for some reason, I can't get this particular document to do so.

> I just found some discussions on the Apple support site about change
> tracking not working in tables, and fewer mentions about it not working
> in text boxes. I found this page from just over a year ago about the iOS
> version of Pages not supporting tracking in either of those two situations:

> https://support.apple.com/kb/PH17142?locale=en_US

> So apparently Apple has crippled the OS X version of Pages with the
> same limitations, sheesh!

Track changes has, as far as I know, *never* worked in text boxes.

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Patty Winter

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Feb 15, 2016, 12:25:03 AM2/15/16
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In article <slrnnc2atn....@amelia.local>,
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>In message <56c0e53c$0$32858$742e...@news.sonic.net>
> Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:

[unneeded quotage deleted]


>> So apparently Apple has crippled the OS X version of Pages with the
>> same limitations, sheesh!
>
>Track changes has, as far as I know, *never* worked in text boxes.

While researching this problem today, I found this 2008 posting on
Apple's support forums:

==========
I just made a check and tracking works for me in a text box. The Help
File States:

When change tracking is on, you can see:

Text that has been added, deleted, edited, or replaced in the document
body, header, footer, shapes, and text boxes
===========


Alan Browne

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Feb 15, 2016, 5:42:21 PM2/15/16
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On 2016-02-14 17:13, Patty Winter wrote:
> In article <8N6dnXRerLd0bV3L...@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan....@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-02-14 15:36, Patty Winter wrote:
>>> In article <56c0ca7e$0$32914$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
>>> Patty Winter <pat...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just found some discussions on the Apple support site about change
>>> tracking not working in tables, and fewer mentions about it not working
>>
>> Ah - well you didn't mention tables or text boxes, so I didn't test
>> that.
>
> I can't mention something I don't know!

Don't that cut two ways!

Alan Browne

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Feb 15, 2016, 5:42:25 PM2/15/16
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It's a separate registration but you can use the same name/pwd. So
transparent I forgot.

>
> Anyway, I sent a complaint via Pages Feedback.

GR8. OTOH, I put less and less stock in Apple's productivity suite with
each passing version so my care level ain't really that high.
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