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Ant
May 11, 2013, 4:05:03 PM5/11/13
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Hello.
When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
that started late last summer 2012? :(
Thank you in advance. :)
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When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
that started late last summer 2012? :(
Thank you in advance. :)
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Ant
May 11, 2013, 5:03:47 PM5/11/13
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On 5/11/2013 1:44 PM PT, Michael Vilain typed:
> TM backups are exact copies of what was present on a system when the
> backup was taken. Rather they're a mix of all the files that _changed_
> since the last backup was taken and hard links to previously backed up
> file.
>
> So your scenario of deleting backups on a specific date will only delete
> the actual files that was backed up. The hard links stay until the last
> backup that's referencing them goes away.
>
> I'll leave it as an exercise to you to figure out "when was this file
> first backed up".
Sheesh. That sucks. So deleting ALL of an external USB HDD's backups
will not work unless I delete the master copy (~/.bash_history as an
example) on MacBook Pro. Bah. :(
> TM backups are exact copies of what was present on a system when the
> backup was taken. Rather they're a mix of all the files that _changed_
> since the last backup was taken and hard links to previously backed up
> file.
>
> So your scenario of deleting backups on a specific date will only delete
> the actual files that was backed up. The hard links stay until the last
> backup that's referencing them goes away.
>
> I'll leave it as an exercise to you to figure out "when was this file
> first backed up".
Sheesh. That sucks. So deleting ALL of an external USB HDD's backups
will not work unless I delete the master copy (~/.bash_history as an
example) on MacBook Pro. Bah. :(
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Ant
May 11, 2013, 5:36:48 PM5/11/13
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On 5/11/2013 2:29 PM PT, Tim Streater typed:
> What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
> *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
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> What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
> *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
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Alan Browne
May 11, 2013, 6:26:28 PM5/11/13
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On 2013.05.11 17:03 , Ant wrote:
> Sheesh. That sucks. So deleting ALL of an external USB HDD's backups
> will not work unless I delete the master copy (~/.bash_history as an
> example) on MacBook Pro. Bah. :(
Before adopting a utility to do something it's usual to actually
> Sheesh. That sucks. So deleting ALL of an external USB HDD's backups
> will not work unless I delete the master copy (~/.bash_history as an
> example) on MacBook Pro. Bah. :(
understand what and how it does it and what the limitations and/or
consequences of that are.
I use TM - but I start afresh every 18 months or so.
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nospam
May 11, 2013, 7:16:24 PM5/11/13
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In article <taKdnSvRg-tsJBPM...@earthlink.com>, Ant
i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you mentioned
.bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very little space.
<a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
> > *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
>
> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
why? are you out of space on the backup drive?
> > What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
> > *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
>
> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you mentioned
.bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very little space.
Tom Stiller
May 11, 2013, 7:41:23 PM5/11/13
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> On 5/11/2013 2:29 PM PT, Tim Streater typed:
>
> > What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
> > *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
>
> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
OK.
>
> > What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
> > *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
>
> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
1. Open a Finder window that shows the undesired file.
2. Enter the Time Machine.
3. Select the undesired file.
4. Click the gear (Action) button and select "Delete All Backups of..."
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Ant
May 11, 2013, 7:50:00 PM5/11/13
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On 5/11/2013 4:16 PM PT, nospam typed:
>>> What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
>>> *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
>>
>> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
>
> why? are you out of space on the backup drive?
>
> i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you mentioned
> .bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very little space.
No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my password. :(
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>>> What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
>>> *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
>>
>> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
>
> why? are you out of space on the backup drive?
>
> i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you mentioned
> .bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very little space.
--
"When you turn on a light in a room, what happens?" Shaw said. "The
roaches scatter, but the ants keep marching. You can step on them, throw
water on them, but they keep on marching. I want ants for my defense."
--Willy Shaw
nospam
May 11, 2013, 7:53:31 PM5/11/13
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In article <d_edncNhHsu6RBPM...@earthlink.com>, Ant
<a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
> >
> > why? are you out of space on the backup drive?
> >
> > i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you mentioned
> > .bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very little space.
>
> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my password. :(
that's what an encrypted backup is for.
> >> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
> >
> > why? are you out of space on the backup drive?
> >
> > i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you mentioned
> > .bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very little space.
>
> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my password. :(
Ant
May 11, 2013, 7:55:00 PM5/11/13
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On 5/11/2013 4:41 PM PT, Tom Stiller typed:
>>> What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
>>> *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
>>
>> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
>
> OK.
> 1. Open a Finder window that shows the undesired file.
> 2. Enter the Time Machine.
> 3. Select the undesired file.
> 4. Click the gear (Action) button and select "Delete All Backups of..."
I did that but for some reason, nothing seems to happen even after
asking me to enter my administrator password once in a while. :/
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Pieces movie
>>> What are you trying to do? Are you wanting to delete all backups of
>>> *one* (or a few, say) file? Or all backups of a complete disk?
>>
>> I am trying to delete all of the backups of a specific file.
>
> OK.
> 1. Open a Finder window that shows the undesired file.
> 2. Enter the Time Machine.
> 3. Select the undesired file.
> 4. Click the gear (Action) button and select "Delete All Backups of..."
asking me to enter my administrator password once in a while. :/
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"Ants! Why don't we all line up like a [bleeped] bunch of ants! It's the
most beautiful part of the day!" --Robert Eroica Dupea in Five Easy
Pieces movie
Ant
May 11, 2013, 10:12:14 PM5/11/13
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On 5/11/2013 1:05 PM PT, Ant typed:
> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
> that started late last summer 2012? :(
FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
anything interesting/odd?
--
"Ants live safely till they have gotten wings." --unknown
> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
> that started late last summer 2012? :(
http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
anything interesting/odd?
--
"Ants live safely till they have gotten wings." --unknown
Ant
May 11, 2013, 11:07:52 PM5/11/13
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On 5/11/2013 7:12 PM PT, Ant typed:
> On 5/11/2013 1:05 PM PT, Ant typed:
>
>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
>
> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
> anything interesting/odd?
In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
minutes.
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I'm the ant." --Bruce Nolan (Bruce Almighty movie)
> On 5/11/2013 1:05 PM PT, Ant typed:
>
>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
>
> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
> anything interesting/odd?
see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
minutes.
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I'm the ant." --Bruce Nolan (Bruce Almighty movie)
bi...@mix.com
May 11, 2013, 11:40:39 PM5/11/13
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In comp.sys.mac.apps Ant <a...@zimage.comant> wrote:
> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my password. :(
Why not just change the password? It'd be a hell of a lot easier...
> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my password. :(
Billy Y..
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Ant
May 12, 2013, 12:01:51 AM5/12/13
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On 5/11/2013 8:40 PM PT, bi...@MIX.COM typed:
>> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my password. :(
>
> Why not just change the password? It'd be a hell of a lot easier...
Yeah, I did that BUT what if I do need to delete files from backups for
another reason? :P
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>> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my password. :(
>
> Why not just change the password? It'd be a hell of a lot easier...
another reason? :P
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Ant
May 12, 2013, 12:02:13 AM5/12/13
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On 5/11/2013 8:07 PM PT, Ant typed:
>>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
>>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
>>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
>>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
>>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
>>
>> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
>> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
>> anything interesting/odd?
>
> In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
> see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
> ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
> delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
> since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
>
> Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
>
> I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
> minutes.
I see a pattern now. According Time Machine's browser's right side with
days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted
backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones
are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get it?
>>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
>>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
>>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
>>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
>>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
>>
>> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
>> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
>> anything interesting/odd?
>
> In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
> see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
> ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
> delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
> since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
>
> Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
>
> I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
> minutes.
days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted
backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones
are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get it?
--
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"No, I'd prefer a cooler WITHOUT an ant-door, thank you..." --unknown
David Ritz
May 12, 2013, 12:16:19 AM5/12/13
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On Saturday, 11 May 2013 16:50 -0700,
in article <d_edncNhHsu6RBPM...@earthlink.com>,
Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> On 5/11/2013 4:16 PM PT, nospam typed:
> On 5/11/2013 4:16 PM PT, nospam typed:
>> i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you
>> mentioned .bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very
>> little space.
> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my
> password. :(
Have you considered changing you password?
>> mentioned .bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very
>> little space.
> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my
> password. :(
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Ant
May 12, 2013, 3:22:58 AM5/12/13
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On 5/11/2013 9:02 PM PT, Ant typed:
>>>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
>>>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
>>>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this
>>>> wrong,
>>>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
>>>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
>>>
>>> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
>>> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
>>> anything interesting/odd?
>>
>> In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
>> see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
>> ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
>> delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
>> since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
>>
>> Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
>>
>> I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
>> minutes.
>
> I see a pattern now. According Time Machine's browser's right side with
> days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted
> backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones
> are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get
> it?
OK. I found out this is by design. According to Pondini's replies in my
http://discussions.apple.com/thread/5030022?start=15&tstart=0 forum
thread, this is normal. I did not know TM does local backups on the same
internal drive.
--
"At high tide the fish eat ants; at low tide the ants eat fish." --Thai
Proverb
>>>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
>>>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
>>>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this
>>>> wrong,
>>>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
>>>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
>>>
>>> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
>>> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
>>> anything interesting/odd?
>>
>> In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
>> see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
>> ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
>> delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
>> since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
>>
>> Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
>>
>> I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
>> minutes.
>
> I see a pattern now. According Time Machine's browser's right side with
> days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted
> backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones
> are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get
> it?
http://discussions.apple.com/thread/5030022?start=15&tstart=0 forum
thread, this is normal. I did not know TM does local backups on the same
internal drive.
--
"At high tide the fish eat ants; at low tide the ants eat fish." --Thai
Proverb
Ant
May 12, 2013, 3:24:01 AM5/12/13
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On 5/11/2013 9:16 PM PT, David Ritz typed:
>>> i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you
>>> mentioned .bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very
>>> little space.
>
>> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my
>> password. :(
>
> Have you considered changing you password?
Already did, but what if I run into this problem again for a different
reason. Anyways, I found my TM "issue" is by design. See my
reply/response below in this newsgroup thread. :)
--
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if you're moving out and you need help getting a potato chip across
town." --Ron Darian
>>> i could see maybe doing this for a large video file, but you
>>> mentioned .bash_history which is tiny. it takes up very, very
>>> little space.
>
>> No, I am trying to delete bad copies. I accidently entered my
>> password. :(
>
> Have you considered changing you password?
reason. Anyways, I found my TM "issue" is by design. See my
reply/response below in this newsgroup thread. :)
--
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if you're moving out and you need help getting a potato chip across
town." --Ron Darian
Barry Margolin
May 12, 2013, 3:24:44 AM5/12/13
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In article <vilain-28006C....@news.individual.net>,
Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <Ho6dnSIRDtbYiRLM...@earthlink.com>,
> 7-pass erase. That should get it.
>
> Then restart taking backups.
Wow, talk about using a sledgehammer to put in a nail. :)
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Arlington, MA
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Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <Ho6dnSIRDtbYiRLM...@earthlink.com>,
> Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
> > On 5/11/2013 8:07 PM PT, Ant typed:
> >
> > >>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
> > >>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
> > >>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
> > >>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
> > >>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
> > >>
> > >> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
> > >> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
> > >> anything interesting/odd?
> > >
> > > In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
> > > see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
> > > ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
> > > delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
> > > since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
> > >
> > > Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
> > >
> > > I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
> > > minutes.
> >
> > I see a pattern now. According Time Machine's browser's right side with
> > days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted
> > backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones
> > are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get it?
>
> Re-initize your TM device with Disk Utility. Then erase the disk using
>
> > On 5/11/2013 8:07 PM PT, Ant typed:
> >
> > >>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
> > >>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
> > >>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
> > >>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
> > >>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
> > >>
> > >> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
> > >> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
> > >> anything interesting/odd?
> > >
> > > In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
> > > see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
> > > ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
> > > delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
> > > since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
> > >
> > > Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
> > >
> > > I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
> > > minutes.
> >
> > I see a pattern now. According Time Machine's browser's right side with
> > days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted
> > backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones
> > are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get it?
>
> 7-pass erase. That should get it.
>
> Then restart taking backups.
Wow, talk about using a sledgehammer to put in a nail. :)
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David Empson
May 12, 2013, 5:34:05 AM5/12/13
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Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> On 5/11/2013 8:07 PM PT, Ant typed:
>
> >>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
> >>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
> >>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
> >>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
> >>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
> >>
> >> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
> >> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
> >> anything interesting/odd?
> >
> > In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
> > see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
> > ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
> > delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
> > since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
> >
> > Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
> >
> > I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
> > minutes.
>
> I see a pattern now. According Time Machine's browser's right side with
> days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted
> backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones
> are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get it?
The colour coding (purple or grey) is a new feature in Lion and later.
> On 5/11/2013 8:07 PM PT, Ant typed:
>
> >>> When I right click on a Time Machine (TM)'s back up file to delete ALL
> >>> back ups. They don't seem to go away. I can still do quick look,
> >>> restore, etc. on the requested deleted all files! Am I doing this wrong,
> >>> misunderstanding this, or is there something wrong with this TM backup
> >>> that started late last summer 2012? :(
> >>
> >> FYI from console's system log if they help at all for clues:
> >> http://pastie.org/private/sufryoooqnr2w96f29adw which I don't see
> >> anything interesting/odd?
> >
> > In Finder in external USB2 HDD's Backups.backupdb folder/directory, I
> > see that each backup snapshot from the oldest (9/30/2012) to the latest
> > ones were deleted. TM still shows the backed up files I told it to
> > delete. Note that I did keep the same files on my MacBook Pro's HDD
> > since the backed up ones were wrong/incorrect to keep.
> >
> > Also, I tried shutting down, rebooting, etc. but that they did not help.
> >
> > I am currently running Disk Utility on this drive. ETA is about ten/10
> > minutes.
>
> I see a pattern now. According Time Machine's browser's right side with
> days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted
> backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones
> are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get it?
The purple ones indicate backups stored on your Time Machine backup
drive.
The grey ones indicate backups stored on the main drive. In Lion and
later, for a portable Mac, Time Machine stores some backups locally if
the backup drive is missing, provided there is plenty of disk space.
Finder doesn't report these backups as "used" space, and they are
deleted agressively if free space starts to get low.
I don't know offhand if Time Machine has any way to manage what gets
stored in there, but in general terms they get deleted automatically on
an hourly/daily schedule as long as you have a TM backup working with an
external drive.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4878
This page appears to have a good overview:
http://pondini.org/TM/30.html
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David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
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