Can't load Kodak Photo CD on 10.2.2?
Burt Johnson
stops, and no disk ever shows on my desktop. The system does not
complain that the CD is invalid -- it just seems to ignore it until I
press F12 to eject the drawer.
If I put the same CD in an OS9 system, it loads and reads fine.
Any idea what is wrong with the X system to cause this?
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- Burt Johnson
MindStorm, Inc.
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Burt Johnson
> In article <1fmxqwz.bifinx1w6pbo2N%bu...@mindstorm-inc.com>,
> do-not...@nowhere.com (nobody) wrote:
>
> > Any idea what is wrong with the X system to cause this?
>
> Perhaps nothing wrong with the system but maybe your settings just tell
> the system to ignore the disk. See System Preferences -> CD´s and DVD´s.
> I recall there´s a setting for photo CD´s.
Setting says "When you insert a picture CD" to "open iPhoto."
It works for music CDs (opens iTunes in that case), but not for Kodak
Photo CDs?
Pete Ware
bu...@mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) wrote:
> l <mac...@nomail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <1fmxqwz.bifinx1w6pbo2N%bu...@mindstorm-inc.com>,
> > do-not...@nowhere.com (nobody) wrote:
> >
> > > Any idea what is wrong with the X system to cause this?
> >
> > Perhaps nothing wrong with the system but maybe your settings just tell
> > the system to ignore the disk. See System Preferences -> CD´s and DVD´s.
> > I recall there´s a setting for photo CD´s.
>
> Setting says "When you insert a picture CD" to "open iPhoto."
>
> It works for music CDs (opens iTunes in that case), but not for Kodak
> Photo CDs?
Have you checked the cd itself? I just inserted a Kodak Photo CD and
it mounted fine on the desktop then launched iPhoto. I wish they had an
option to do nothing!
Could be you have a scatched cd.
Burt Johnson
> Have you checked the cd itself? I just inserted a Kodak Photo CD and
> it mounted fine on the desktop then launched iPhoto. I wish they had an
> option to do nothing!
>
> Could be you have a scatched cd.
As I said, the CD works fine under OS9.
fwiw, my wife shot 30 rolls in Burma & China last month. I needed
photos from 5 of those rolls for the video I am finishing plus our XMas
letter. None of the 5 CDs would load under OS X (10.2.2) on my
"mirror-door WindTunnel" computer, yet they all worked fine under OS9 on
my wife's Ti4 Powerbook. (I checked 2 of them on the WindTunnel when
booted under OS9 and they read fine there too)
David C.
>
> When I insert a Kodak Photo CD on my 10.2.2 system, the CD whirs, then stops,
> and no disk ever shows on my desktop. The system does not complain that the
> CD is invalid -- it just seems to ignore it until I press F12 to eject the
> drawer.
>
> If I put the same CD in an OS9 system, it loads and reads fine.
>
> Any idea what is wrong with the X system to cause this?
PhotoCD or PictureCD?
PhotoCD is a special disc format that may require a device driver to read
properly. Most photo processing labs to not make PhotoCDs. (I know, I've
looked.)
A PictureCD is what you normally get if you tell your local processing lab to
give you a CD with your pictures. This is an ISO-format CD containing JPEG
files (possible with some viewer software as well.) These should be seen just
like any other CD.
-- David
Burt Johnson
>
> PhotoCD is a special disc format that may require a device driver to read
> properly. Most photo processing labs to not make PhotoCDs. (I know, I've
> looked.)
>
> A PictureCD is what you normally get if you tell your local processing lab to
> give you a CD with your pictures. This is an ISO-format CD containing JPEG
> files (possible with some viewer software as well.) These should be seen just
> like any other CD.
Well, how can I tell the difference?
The CD is made by Kodak, and I thought they always made PhotoCD?
At any rate, if a special driver is needed, where do I get one? It
reads fine under OS9 (and PC/NT), but won't mount under OSX (10.2.2).
Stephen Bedford <sbedford mac.com>
>> PhotoCD or PictureCD?
>>
>> PhotoCD is a special disc format that may require a device driver to
>> read properly. Most photo processing labs to not make PhotoCDs. (I
>> know, I've looked.) A PictureCD is what you normally get if you tell
>> your local processing lab to give you a CD with your pictures. This
>> is an ISO-format CD containing JPEG files (possible with some viewer
>> software as well.) These should be seen just like any other CD.
>
> Well, how can I tell the difference?
>
> The CD is made by Kodak, and I thought they always made PhotoCD?
>
> At any rate, if a special driver is needed, where do I get one? It
> reads fine under OS9 (and PC/NT), but won't mount under OSX (10.2.2).
>
Graphic Converter etc under 10.2.2 PhotoCD is a common format and is a
format supplied by photo processors in UK.
Sally Shears
:> PhotoCD or PictureCD?
:>
:> A PictureCD is what you normally get if you tell your local processing lab to
:> give you a CD with your pictures. This is an ISO-format CD containing JPEG
:> files
: Well, how can I tell the difference?
: The CD is made by Kodak, and I thought they always made PhotoCD?
: At any rate, if a special driver is needed, where do I get one? It
: reads fine under OS9 (and PC/NT), but won't mount under OSX (10.2.2).
Burt, it won't mount under OS X? Or you can't see the images?
Here's the story...
PhotoCD and PictureCD are Kodak trademarks. They are different and it's
confusing.
A PhotoCD has higher quality scans and has printed "Photo CD" and probably
"Photo CD master disk" on the disc. PhotoCD takes a special machine;
pro-oriented labs have them. Each PhotoCD disc has a number, probably
unique. Kodak tries to control the media on which PhotoCDs are created.
PictureCD is intended for most consumers. The rest is about PhotoCD.
In my OS X 10.2.2, inserting a PhotoCD, it mounts on the desktop as
PCDnnnn, where the four digits are from the disc number. No special
software is required to mount the disc in OS X. Now, what about seeing the
images?
For me, iPhoto opened automatically, but would not do anything with the
PhotoCD images. Maybe this is the problem Burt saw.
If you have a PhotoCD, get Graphic Converter (the "Swiss Army Knife for
images"). Use the Open command, navigate to the "Images" folder on the
PCDnnnn, and you'll be able to open any image.
PhotoCD image files are unlike others in that there are several
resolutions in the file. You get your choice in the File.. Open dialogue.
Later, you'll probably want to save the image as a .jpg file with Save As
if you want to do anything else with it, such as import to iPhoto.
Adobe PhotoShop will open PhotoCD images.
In Mac OS 9 and earlier, when you mount a PhotoCD, the OS made "pseudo"
image files that you could open with any program; this feature appears to
be lost in OS X. However, the pseudo image files were lower quality than
you'll get with Graphic Converter or PhotoShop.
I don't know if PhotoShop Elements will open PhotoCD.
I use PhotoCD when I want quality scans.
-- Sally
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David C.
>
> PictureCD is intended for most consumers. The rest is about PhotoCD.
...
As I wrote before, a PictureCD (what most processing labs sell you) is
an ordinary ISO-format CD-R disc, with a folder full of JPEG files.
Sometimes they also include some software as well. There should be no
effective difference between a PictureCD and a CD-R that you burn
yourself.
-- David
Burt Johnson
> PhotoCD and PictureCD are Kodak trademarks. They are different and it's
> confusing.
>
> A PhotoCD has higher quality scans and has printed "Photo CD" and probably
> "Photo CD master disk" on the disc. PhotoCD takes a special machine;
> pro-oriented labs have them. Each PhotoCD disc has a number, probably
> unique. Kodak tries to control the media on which PhotoCDs are created.
>
> PictureCD is intended for most consumers. The rest is about PhotoCD.
OK, you are right, this is a PictureCD. Never knew there were two
formats for this stuff till this thread. Sorry for the confusion.
But my problem remains. Inserting this PictureCD into my WindTunnel G4
running 10.2.2, the CD never mounts. The disk icon never shows up on
the desktop, nor is it available in any Open File dialog from Photoshop
or other graphic apps I have tried.
Reboot the same computer into 9.2.2, insert the same CD, and it properly
mounts on the desktop, and the files are easily manipulated with any 9
version graphic app.
The same CD also mounts without problems on my wifes Ti4 running 9.2.
And the same is true for every one of the half dozen CDs that I have
tried (out of 31 that my wife shot on this latest trip to China).
David C.
>
> OK, you are right, this is a PictureCD. Never knew there were two
> formats for this stuff till this thread. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> But my problem remains. Inserting this PictureCD into my WindTunnel G4
> running 10.2.2, the CD never mounts. The disk icon never shows up on
> the desktop, nor is it available in any Open File dialog from Photoshop
> or other graphic apps I have tried.
Weird. I haven't seen this before.
I have several PictureCDs, from various labs (Seattle Photoworks, Clark,
Kodak (from DisneyWorld), and Fuji (from MotoPhoto)). They all mount
fine.
I see an ordinary CD with files. One folder contains JPG files with the
pictures. The rest contain other things. When inserting the Kodak CD,
iPhoto auto-launches. When inserting the other ones, it just mounts as
an ordinary data CD.
This is in a SuperDrive on a G4 running 10.2.2. I just tried it now.
-- David
Burt Johnson
> Weird. I haven't seen this before.
>
> I have several PictureCDs, from various labs (Seattle Photoworks, Clark,
> Kodak (from DisneyWorld), and Fuji (from MotoPhoto)). They all mount
> fine.
>
> I see an ordinary CD with files. One folder contains JPG files with the
> pictures. The rest contain other things. When inserting the Kodak CD,
> iPhoto auto-launches. When inserting the other ones, it just mounts as
> an ordinary data CD.
>
> This is in a SuperDrive on a G4 running 10.2.2. I just tried it now.
I was afraid of that... :-(
That is exactly what I see when mounting under 9.2. I don't see it (the
CD does not mount) under 10.2.2.
This is on a SuperDrive on a G4/dual 1GHz WindTunnel (yeah, I know Apple
prefers "mirror door", but WT is a better description...)
Interestingly enough, I find that CarbonCloner and PageSender won't work
on my machine either, yet dozens of other apps do fine (Final Cut Pro,
Photoshop, Eudora, MacSoup, etc, etc). Something must be wrong here,
but I am clueless as to what it is.
Daniel
> When I insert a Kodak Photo CD on my 10.2.2 system, the CD whirs, then
> stops, and no disk ever shows on my desktop. The system does not
> complain that the CD is invalid -- it just seems to ignore it
Hi Burt,
Check System's Preference -> CD&DVD -> Picture CD
(the System's Preference, and not Finder Preferences)
Daniel
Burt Johnson
> > When I insert a Kodak Photo CD on my 10.2.2 system, the CD whirs, then
> > stops, and no disk ever shows on my desktop. The system does not
> > complain that the CD is invalid -- it just seems to ignore it
>
> Hi Burt,
>
> Check System's Preference -> CD&DVD -> Picture CD
> (the System's Preference, and not Finder Preferences)
It is set to open in iPhoto, which is the default setting.