how to protect my iTunes Library?
heron stone
already has 425 GBs in it. At the moment, it seems to work OK.
It's a little slow sometimes, when editing ID3 tags or building
temporary playlists, but generally Itunes seems to function
properly with my present 81,000 tracks.
I'm worried, though, that an additional 14,000 tracks may push
it into some zone that makes iTunes unuseable.
So what do I have to do in order to be able to revert to the
425 GB version, if the new one doesn't work.
Thanks
Heron
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Charles Martin
<heronstoneDO-F78F...@comcast.ash.giganews.com>,
heron stone <herons...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm about to add 70 GBs of MP3s to my iTunes Library which
> already has 425 GBs in it. At the moment, it seems to work OK.
> It's a little slow sometimes, when editing ID3 tags or building
> temporary playlists, but generally Itunes seems to function
> properly with my present 81,000 tracks.
>
> I'm worried, though, that an additional 14,000 tracks may push
> it into some zone that makes iTunes unuseable.
>
> So what do I have to do in order to be able to revert to the
> 425 GB version, if the new one doesn't work.
1. Buy a half-terabyte's worth of external storage (2x250MB drives) and
make a backup.
2. Develop some taste in music so that you don't have to steal every
fucking song ever recorded in the history of mankind, you dork. Oh, and
maybe you could PAY for some of it this time.
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Michael Siemon
Charles Martin <rub...@bollocks.org> wrote:
...
> 2. Develop some taste in music so that you don't have to steal every
> fucking song ever recorded in the history of mankind, you dork. Oh, and
> maybe you could PAY for some of it this time.
You are sometimes a major asshole. I am about a third of the
way through digitizing my existing CD collection, with the
size, ripping in the smallest settings I can tolerate, nearing
100 Gig. I'd _really_ like to do a lot of this in AIFF, but
luckily a major part of my collection is from the pre-stereo
era and a high-bit rate LAME or AAC encoding is mostly OK.
I indeed have one 250G external drive as my main repository,
and will probably need another for backup soon... I doubt that
I am particularly unique in this.
It would behoove you not to jump to conclusions about the OP.
Cathy Stevenson
Charles Martin <rub...@bollocks.org> wrote:
<snip>
> 2. Develop some taste in music so that you don't have to steal every
> fucking song ever recorded in the history of mankind, you dork. Oh, and
> maybe you could PAY for some of it this time.
What in the hell is wrong with you? Heron has posted lots of messages
in these groups. His taste is mainly classical and he is obviously a
serious audiophile.
Cathy
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Neill McKay
Charles Martin <rub...@bollocks.org> wrote:
> 2. Develop some taste in music so that you don't have to steal every
> fucking song ever recorded in the history of mankind, you dork. Oh, and
> maybe you could PAY for some of it this time.
Why, that was almost worthy of Enough!
singha_lvr
<rub...@bollocks.org> wrote:
>2. Develop some taste in music so that you don't have to steal every
>fucking song ever recorded in the history of mankind, you dork. Oh, and
>maybe you could PAY for some of it this time.
I'm not sure I'd draw that conclusion from the original e-mail.
I have a friend with over 3,000 CDs in his collection. (I helped him
move, what a PITA).
I imagine ripping ALL of those would take a few megs.
heron stone
or lack thereof, how do I protect my present library?
And I'm talking about the iTunes Library file, not my
MP3 files. The files are indeed backed up on several
of my 160GB, 200GB and 250GB ext. FW drives.
Is it as simple as making a copy of it in another folder
and then simply replacing it if the new, bigger Library
causes problems?
heron
David C.
>
> 2. Develop some taste in music so that you don't have to steal every
> fucking song ever recorded in the history of mankind, you dork. Oh, and
> maybe you could PAY for some of it this time.
*plonk*
jpmcwilliams
> So, the question remains, aside from my musical taste
> or lack thereof, how do I protect my present library?
>
> And I'm talking about the iTunes Library file, not my
> MP3 files. The files are indeed backed up on several
> of my 160GB, 200GB and 250GB ext. FW drives.
>
> Is it as simple as making a copy of it in another folder
> and then simply replacing it if the new, bigger Library
> causes problems?
>
iTunes window. It's the play lists that get left behind, and you
mentioned only temporary ones. But, yes, the library files can get saved
and replaced back to the way it was.
John McWilliams
heron stone
thanks
Aren't the playlists stored in the Library file?
How can I maintain my playlists?
jpmcwilliams
>>>So, the question remains, aside from my musical taste
>>>or lack thereof, how do I protect my present library?
>>>
>>>And I'm talking about the iTunes Library file, not my
>>>MP3 files. The files are indeed backed up on several
>>>of my 160GB, 200GB and 250GB ext. FW drives.
>>>
>>>Is it as simple as making a copy of it in another folder
>>>and then simply replacing it if the new, bigger Library
>>>causes problems?
>>>
>>
>>The library is easily recreated by dropping the folder into a blank
>>iTunes window. It's the play lists that get left behind, and you
>>mentioned only temporary ones. But, yes, the library files can get saved
>>and replaced back to the way it was.
>>
>
> How can I maintain my playlists?
Yes, the playlists would be in the Library.XML file.
Below is a snippet of one of mine. I have sucessfully restored playlists
when moving to a new boot partition by starting up iTunes afresh,
pointing it to the drive with the files on it (I don't use the default
location), and then quitting and subbing the saved files for the ones
just created in the default location, [except for the itunes folder
itself, which is empty in the default location.]
But I don't have any experience in making changes to the library, then
undoing them and reverting to the 'before' state, except when playlists
were unimportant.
John McWilliams
**** **** **** **** ****
<dict>
<key>Name</key><string>Vienna Boys Choir</string>
<key>Playlist ID</key><integer>2000</integer>
<key>Playlist Persistent ID</key><string>E2C4940728990626</string>
<key>All Items</key><true/>
<key>Playlist Items</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>Track ID</key><integer>630</integer>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>Track ID</key><integer>629</integer>
</dict>
<dict>
<key>Track ID</key><integer>627</integer>
</dict>
<dict>
heron stone
>
> Below is a snippet of one of mine. I have sucessfully restored playlists
> when moving to a new boot partition by starting up iTunes afresh,
> pointing it to the drive with the files on it (I don't use the default
> location), and then quitting and subbing the saved files for the ones
> just created in the default location, [except for the itunes folder
> itself, which is empty in the default location.]
>
> But I don't have any experience in making changes to the library, then
> undoing them and reverting to the 'before' state, except when playlists
> were unimportant.
>
> John McWilliams
Well, you seem to know what you're talking about...
at least more than me.
I have several playlists that are crucial to my system.
A lot of my files are lectures and audio-books, so i have
separate playlists, one for music and one for talk. In
addition, I have playlists for all-time personal favorites,
several iPod lists and other less important temporary ones
that I could lose without pain.
If you'll bear with me, here's what i'm planning on doing.
The files in my current iTunes Library exist on two internal
ATA drives: media1 (250GB) and media2 (200GB). These are
backed up to to identical FW externals.
New media files are temporarily stored on media3 (160GB ext. FW)
(backed up to another just like it). It has lots of other stuff
on it besides just MP3s. But, it's getting full and it's time
to add those files (about 70GB) to the Library.
I have a couple of 80GB ext FWs set aside for this. I'll copy the
70 GBs to them and then add them to the iTunes Library.
So the crucial question is: If this size of library proves to
be unuseable, can I go back to the Library file that I duped
(prior to adding the new files) and will the playlists that it
had still be there? Or, what do I have to do in order to make
sure that I can recover those playlists?
Thanks again for taking the time to help me.
jpmcwilliams
The short answer is: I don't know. The sheer size is staggering. But I
do have one suggestion that may ease your mind- certainly keeping books,
lectures and music on separate lists can effectively be
accomplished/recreated by choosing and sorting on genre. You can make
custom types, too, and the info is stored in the tag, so that if you
lose your custom made lists, you can recreate by sorting on the Genre,
and selecting the lot to make a new playlist.
John McWilliams
Charles Martin
singha_lvr <singh...@charter.net> wrote:
as someone who actually owns and paid for 1,500 cds, I can provide a
loose estimate.
Ripped at a decent bitrate (say 192 or 256 ... LAME of course), MP3s
take up about 1.5MB per minute. If we assume that the average CD has 60
minutes of music (a high average, IMHO) then we're talking about
90MB/album.
So let's say that one dozen albums = 1GB of storage.
heron stone claims to have 495 GB of music on this drives (425+70 coming)
So, 12*495= 5,940 CDs.
Okay, first I'm supposed to believe that this guy has a 6,000 CD
collection (theoretically possible, I suppose) and *then* I'm supposed
to believe that he's ripped ALL 6000 of them to mp3.
Yeah. Right.
Ever heard of Kazaa ... and Occam's Razor?
Charles Martin
Neill McKay <neill...@not.my.address> wrote:
LOL!
Oh no, I am nowhere NEAR as acerbic as Enough/Phaedrus.
I get cranky occasionally ... HE is Oscar the Grouch! :)
Michael Siemon
Charles Martin <rub...@bollocks.org> wrote:
...
> heron stone claims to have 495 GB of music on this drives (425+70 coming)
>
> So, 12*495= 5,940 CDs.
>
> Okay, first I'm supposed to believe that this guy has a 6,000 CD
> collection (theoretically possible, I suppose) and *then* I'm supposed
> to believe that he's ripped ALL 6000 of them to mp3.
>
> Yeah. Right.
You still have your head up your ass. I would strongly urge you
to apologize -- to heron stone and to the rest of us who happen
to find both his situation and his questions worthy of being
taken seriously, and not as a platform for your egotistical
exhibitionism.
heron stone
> > be unuseable, can I go back to the Library file that I duped
> > (prior to adding the new files) and will the playlists that it
> > had still be there? Or, what do I have to do in order to make
> > sure that I can recover those playlists?
> >
>
> The short answer is: I don't know. The sheer size is staggering. But I
> do have one suggestion that may ease your mind- certainly keeping books,
> lectures and music on separate lists can effectively be
> accomplished/recreated by choosing and sorting on genre. You can make
> custom types, too, and the info is stored in the tag, so that if you
> lose your custom made lists, you can recreate by sorting on the Genre,
> and selecting the lot to make a new playlist.
>
> John McWilliams
You're right and that's exactly what i'm up to.
Filling in all the ID3 tags and making them consistent is
necessary in order to have a useful library, but, considering
the number of files and my limited resources, it's a daunting
task.
thanks
st...@temple.edu
> So, the question remains, aside from my musical taste
> or lack thereof, how do I protect my present library?
> And I'm talking about the iTunes Library file, not my
> MP3 files. The files are indeed backed up on several
> of my 160GB, 200GB and 250GB ext. FW drives.
Frankly, I think you might be expecting more out of iTunes
than it can provide. Ask yourself if you really need to have
all your songs sitting in your iTunes library concurrently.
If you must, then you might do well to buy a professional
media tracking app such as Extensis portfolio that tracks
any kind of media file without the need to physically copy
that file into a proprietary library format the way iTunes does.
heron stone
> than it can provide. Ask yourself if you really need to have
> all your songs sitting in your iTunes library concurrently.
> If you must, then you might do well to buy a professional
> media tracking app such as Extensis portfolio that tracks
> any kind of media file without the need to physically copy
> that file into a proprietary library format the way iTunes does.
>
tell me more please
Cathy Stevenson
<heronstoneDO-AB30...@comcast.ash.giganews.com>, heron
stone <herons...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Frankly, I think you might be expecting more out of iTunes
> > than it can provide. Ask yourself if you really need to have
> > all your songs sitting in your iTunes library concurrently.
> > If you must, then you might do well to buy a professional
> > media tracking app such as Extensis portfolio that tracks
> > any kind of media file without the need to physically copy
> > that file into a proprietary library format the way iTunes does.
> >
>
> tell me more please
Cost is $200. You might check the reviews at versiontracker.com.
People who have used it for years seem to be, on the whole, unhappy
with the OS 10.3 version.