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Dudley Henriques

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Jan 13, 2008, 4:56:40 PM1/13/08
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IMac Intel OSX10.4.10

Doesn't happen very often but on two occasions now widely spaced apart
by about a month when booting the system from being totally shut down, I
have gotten a full normal boot to the desktop but no mouse available.
The arrow shows normally in the upper left corner but won't move at all
when the mouse is moved.
On both occasions I have used the keyboard to reboot the system
(cmd/cntrl/eject) and regained the mouse.
Can anyone tell me if this is a known issue or/and if I'm handling it
the right way, and if known, is there something I should be doing that
might cure the issue?
Many thanks
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Dudley Henriques

Jolly Roger

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Jan 13, 2008, 5:07:24 PM1/13/08
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In article <juydnSGRipmFFBfa...@rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:

What model mouse? Wired or wireless? If wired, have you tried
unplugging and plugging the mouse back in? If wireless, have you tried
resetting or power cycling the mouse? Have you tried logging out and
back in rather than a complete restart?

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Dudley Henriques

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Jan 13, 2008, 5:32:19 PM1/13/08
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Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <juydnSGRipmFFBfa...@rcn.net>,
> Dudley Henriques <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> IMac Intel OSX10.4.10
>>
>> Doesn't happen very often but on two occasions now widely spaced apart
>> by about a month when booting the system from being totally shut down, I
>> have gotten a full normal boot to the desktop but no mouse available.
>> The arrow shows normally in the upper left corner but won't move at all
>> when the mouse is moved.
>> On both occasions I have used the keyboard to reboot the system
>> (cmd/cntrl/eject) and regained the mouse.
>> Can anyone tell me if this is a known issue or/and if I'm handling it
>> the right way, and if known, is there something I should be doing that
>> might cure the issue?
>> Many thanks
>
> What model mouse? Wired or wireless? If wired, have you tried
> unplugging and plugging the mouse back in? If wireless, have you tried
> resetting or power cycling the mouse? Have you tried logging out and
> back in rather than a complete restart?
>
Hi JR;

Interesting questions.

It's happened first with the Mighty Mouse about a month ago and that of
course was wired. The latest mouse is a Logitech wireless Laser with the
Logitech software installed.Battery charge shows 85%.
Both times the same symptom as described.
I believe I did unplug and replug the Mighty Mouse when that happened
last month, but this time I rebooted the computer using the keyboard and
the mouse driver loaded normally.
By power cycling the Logitech, do you mean simply disconnecting the USB
receiver unit and reattaching it again. Actually I didn't think of doing
that as an option. Would this be better than restarting the system?Not
sure what you mean by logging out. I'm a single home user and haven't
set up any passwords for computer access. I just use the power switch to
boot up and a normal shutdown procedure if shutting down. Other than
that I just let the system sleep most of the time when not in use.


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Dudley Henriques

Jolly Roger

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Jan 14, 2008, 1:45:09 PM1/14/08
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In article <y-CdnZe2U6LuDBfa...@rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:

> It's happened first with the Mighty Mouse about a month ago and that of
> course was wired. The latest mouse is a Logitech wireless Laser with the
> Logitech software installed.Battery charge shows 85%.
> Both times the same symptom as described.
> I believe I did unplug and replug the Mighty Mouse when that happened
> last month, but this time I rebooted the computer using the keyboard and
> the mouse driver loaded normally.

This certainly isn't a common problem. So I'm wondering what, on your
system, could be causing it.

> By power cycling the Logitech, do you mean simply disconnecting the USB
> receiver unit and reattaching it again. Actually I didn't think of doing
> that as an option.

Yes.

> Would this be better than restarting the system?

Yes, because it's faster and doesn't require you to quit applications
and restart.

> Not
> sure what you mean by logging out. I'm a single home user and haven't
> set up any passwords for computer access. I just use the power switch to
> boot up and a normal shutdown procedure if shutting down. Other than
> that I just let the system sleep most of the time when not in use.

Sounds like you have the operating system set to automatically log you
in. you can see that setting here: System Preferences > Accounts > Login
Options > Automatic Login.

Dudley Henriques

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Jan 14, 2008, 2:14:22 PM1/14/08
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If I open system pref/accounts/I show a password for Dudley Henriques
(probably set up on initial setup procedure) Then I show a picture/then
a Login ITEMS section. In that section I'm showing two check boxes both
checked.
CNQL 1208 Button Manager application
Logitech Control Center Daemon

So the Logetich Control Center is opening on boot. I wonder if it
conflicts in any way with the system mouse drivers available in System
Prefs/keyboard and mouse?????

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Dudley Henriques

Jolly Roger

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Jan 14, 2008, 2:44:26 PM1/14/08
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In article <zJ6dnQek_6kSKRba...@rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:

I would uninstall it if I were you:

<http://jkubicek.blogspot.com/2007/10/uninstalling-logitech-control-cente
r.html>

Dudley Henriques

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Jan 14, 2008, 8:31:21 PM1/14/08
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Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <zJ6dnQek_6kSKRba...@rcn.net>,
> Dudley Henriques <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> If I open system pref/accounts/I show a password for Dudley Henriques
>> (probably set up on initial setup procedure) Then I show a picture/then
>> a Login ITEMS section. In that section I'm showing two check boxes both
>> checked.
>> CNQL 1208 Button Manager application
>> Logitech Control Center Daemon
>>
>> So the Logetich Control Center is opening on boot. I wonder if it
>> conflicts in any way with the system mouse drivers available in System
>> Prefs/keyboard and mouse?????
>
> I would uninstall it if I were you:
>
> <http://jkubicek.blogspot.com/2007/10/uninstalling-logitech-control-cente
> r.html>
>
Link won't let me in JR; can you briefly tell me what might be wrong and
what to do?

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Dudley Henriques

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Dudley Henriques

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Jan 14, 2008, 8:53:51 PM1/14/08
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Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <ULCdnYB-3KN0kRHa...@rcn.net>, Dudley Henriques

> <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> Link won't let me in JR; can you briefly tell me what might be wrong and
>> what to do?
>
> <http://jkubicek.blogspot.com/2007/10/uninstalling-logitech-control-cent
> er.html>
>
> Works fine from here.
>
I'm getting a Blogger "page not found" both clicking and hand writing in
the link.

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Dudley Henriques

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Dudley Henriques

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Jan 14, 2008, 9:20:49 PM1/14/08
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Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <qOGdndEEEfmyjxHa...@rcn.net>, Dudley Henriques

> <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm getting a Blogger "page not found" both clicking and hand writing in
>> the link.
>
> Weird.
>
> Here's the key info from the site:
>
> Finally, what I had to do was start the installation process by running
> the installer. After the installer program starts up, you don't even
> have to do anything, just go to the File menu in the installer and
> select "Show Files". This gives you a list of all files that this
> installer is creating on your machine. From the looks of it all the
> files are in /Library/Application Enhancers (this right here is what
> caused all those problems), /Library/Application Support/Logitech and
> /Library/PreferencePanes/Logitech Control Center.prefPane. There's also
> an additional Application Enhancer file you need to delete,
> /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/ApplicationEnhancer.bundle. Delete
> these badboys and logout/login and your computer will go back to safe
>
Thanks. I researched further after reading what you and JR had to say
and found a ton of bad publicity on the Logitech Control Center.
I went into applications and found an uninstaller and used that.
Checking in spotlight I found a single plist for the Logitech Control
Center and trashed that. I'll check what you have listed here as well to
see if I got everything out.
DH

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Jolly Roger

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Jan 15, 2008, 9:59:40 AM1/15/08
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In article <ULCdnYB-3KN0kRHa...@rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > In article <zJ6dnQek_6kSKRba...@rcn.net>,
> > Dudley Henriques <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If I open system pref/accounts/I show a password for Dudley Henriques
> >> (probably set up on initial setup procedure) Then I show a picture/then
> >> a Login ITEMS section. In that section I'm showing two check boxes both
> >> checked.
> >> CNQL 1208 Button Manager application
> >> Logitech Control Center Daemon
> >>
> >> So the Logetich Control Center is opening on boot. I wonder if it
> >> conflicts in any way with the system mouse drivers available in System
> >> Prefs/keyboard and mouse?????
> >
> > I would uninstall it if I were you:
> >
> > <http://jkubicek.blogspot.com/2007/10/uninstalling-logitech-control-cente
> > r.html>
> >
> Link won't let me in JR;

Probably because your news client cut part of the URL off. Did you
examine the URL bar of your browser and compare it to the link in my
news post? I'm betting part of the end is cut off.

Anyway, here's a tiny URL that goes to the same page:

<http://tinyurl.com/yqggnh>

> can you briefly tell me what might be wrong and
> what to do?

Basically, according to the web page, uninstalling Logitech Control
Center is not very straightforward. The page tells you how to completely
uninstall it. The tiny URL above should get you there.

Jolly Roger

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Jan 15, 2008, 10:00:41 AM1/15/08
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In article <ooqdnVyHo8EchRHa...@rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenr...@rcn.com> wrote:

> I went into applications and found an uninstaller and used that.

Interesting. According to the web page I gave you, there was no
uninstaller. Maybe Logitech added one at a later date.

Dudley Henriques

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Jan 15, 2008, 10:09:59 AM1/15/08
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Thanks JR. I saved this information and copied the instructions off the
site just in case.
I think I got everything with the uninstaller. I've checked spotlight
and nothing found afterward.
Strangely enough, I'm back to the old Logitech mouse I had before I
started having trouble with the Mighty Mouse's scroll wheel. This one is
a spare.
I'll return the MM to Apple under my Apple Care and get a new one, but
I'm fairly sure it too will develop the same issue with the ball. It's a
flawed design I believe. Apple should have foreseen problems with people
having dirty fingers and such using that small ball. The MM should break
down easily for cleaning but of course it doesn't. It can be done but
what a job doing it :-) My only complaint with Apple .

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