There's this thing what they call the World Wide Web, and I can't
explain the whole thing here, but you can get books to show you how to
use it and it's real easy when you know how 'cause my 3-year-old nephew
is using it and then when you has learned how to use it you can find
this here web site, I think it's at <http://www.apple.com>. One of the
pages I saw on that there web site was titled "Apple - Apple - Mac OS X
- Leopard Sneak Peek" [sic]. On this web page them folks what is at
Apple put some stuff about Leopard. Garran-teed to clear up some of yer
sketchiness.
Davoud
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> this here web site, I think it's at <http://www.apple.com>. One of the
> pages I saw on that there web site was titled "Apple - Apple - Mac OS X
> - Leopard Sneak Peek" [sic]. On this web page them folks what is at
> Apple put some stuff about Leopard. Garran-teed to clear up some of yer
> sketchiness.
I wouldn't have bothered looking at the sneek peek if you hadn't
posted this because I am not making any decisions for the next
few months that depend on what might or might not be in Leopard.
But I have just looked at it and the most interesting thing, given
all the speculation over release date, is this:
> Get ready, get set, get Leopard
> All these features and more are delivered to you in one universal,
> fully accessible, 64-bit operating system. Coming spring 2007.
Does that mean we can dismiss predictions of a 2006 release date?
Ian
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Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/
> I'm getting sketchy reports on this. As I understand it, *all* copies
> of Leopard will include Front Row and Photo Booth, so even Macs that
> didn't come with those apps can now get them. Am I right?
Yes. This was announced during Steve Jobs' MWDC keynote speech on
Monday. If you have broadband ISP access, you can watch the speech
yourself. A link to it is on http://www.apple.com
> In article <4jueo8F...@individual.net>,
> Ian Gregory <f...@bar.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Get ready, get set, get Leopard
> > > All these features and more are delivered to you in one universal,
> > > fully accessible, 64-bit operating system. Coming spring 2007.
> >
> > Does that mean we can dismiss predictions of a 2006 release date?
>
> I think that such predictions were merely wishful thinking. We can,
> however, dismiss predictions of a MacWorld Expo release date.
>
> I think April 2007 is a reasonable estimate.
I agree, but I suspect something more will be said at the Macworld '07
keynote about Leopard. After all, a lot of Leopard's new functionality
was not disclosed on Monday, so there may be some surprises in store.
Apple Computer, Inc:
> > Get ready, get set, get Leopard
> > All these features and more are delivered to you in one universal,
> > fully accessible, 64-bit operating system. Coming spring 2007.
Ian Gregory:
> Does that mean we can dismiss predictions of a 2006 release date?
Hmmm. I'll have to about what "Coming spring 2007" might mean vis-a-vis
"2006 release date." What do /you/ think it means?
Gee, I wonder ;) Does it mean Apple speaks in terms of a Government
fiscal year calendar .. where 2007 starts in Oct? My 'guess' is not :)
Phil
> I'm getting sketchy reports on this. As I understand it, *all* copies
> of Leopard will include Front Row and Photo Booth, so even Macs that
> didn't come with those apps can now get them. Am I right?
Yes. That's what Steve said.
--
Adrian
> As I understand it, *all* copies
> of Leopard will include Front Row and Photo Booth, so even Macs that
> didn't come with those apps can now get them.
My very humble opinion is that Apple will release a new iSight, most
probably with an infrared sensor, which will come with a remote. This
will allow users of machines webcams (technically, machines without a
built-in screen to put a webcam into) to take advantage of both
technologies.
And since they lowered the prices on displays, I reckon that those
sci-fi screens with a transparen photo-reactive CCD layer (read: the
monitor as a giant webcam) are not coming very soon.
--
Jollino
Davoud wrote some smart-alecky stuff, including:
> > <http://www.apple.com>. One of the
> > pages I saw on that there web site was titled "Apple - Apple - Mac OS X
> > - Leopard Sneak Peek" [sic].
Babaganoosh:
> I already tried that.
> And you can lose the attitude, thank you.
OK, attitude put aside for the moment. Just trying to apply the old
proverb "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to
fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
/What/ did you try, please? Did you read the "Leopard Sneak Peek" page
and not find the information you wanted? Were you unable to find this
page? You see, if you have a problem (unable to find info on Leopard,
e.g.) and you state briefly what you have already done to solve the
problem (looked for info at apple.com but couldn't find anything, e.g.)
you may well help your respondent to take the short route to a more
precise answer.
Might be. Speaking of iSights, did anyone notice that the monitor they
had on stage for the demos at the WWDC2006 keynote had two iSights
connected to it? I wasn't aware that two iSight cameras could be used at
the same time on the same Mac. I wonder if support for multiple iSight
cameras is a new Leopard feature. If this was announced during the
keynote, I must have missed it.
If you found that answer "sketchy", then I have no idea why you would
think you would find a more definitive answer on Usenet.
From that page:
"Now Built In
Mac OS X Leopard offers some
new standard features you may
have seen before.
Boot Camp
...
Front Row
...
Photo Booth
..."
You also didn't bother to mention that you had looked at Apple's
official Leopard page and found it wanting...
I suppose if English is not your first language, then the meaning
of the phrase "standard features" might not be obvious.
Speaking of iSights, did anyone notice that the monitor they
> had on stage for the demos at the WWDC2006 keynote had two iSights
> connected to it? I wasn't aware that two iSight cameras could be used at
> the same time on the same Mac. I wonder if support for multiple iSight
> cameras is a new Leopard feature. If this was announced during the
> keynote, I must have missed it.
I suspect the second one was for backup purposes in case the first one
failed.
>There's this thing what they call the World Wide Web, and I can't
>explain the whole thing here
I wouldn't spend much time on that, though...it's just like CB radio.
Jim, breaker 1-9, whutcher handle, good buddy?
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Babaganoosh:
> Bingo.
> It did mention those apps, but it wasn't clear as to whether they were
> included with *all* copies of Leopard (even store-bought), or still
> only with new Macs.
OK, sorry, but I did what I could. I can't be there to interpret for
you what you read. In a box on the page is written "Mac OS X Leopard
offers some new standard features you may have seen before." In that
same box, three features are named: Boot Camp, Front Row, and Photo
Booth.
When I saw /standard/ /features/ , /Boot Camp/ , /Front Row/ , and
/Photo/ /Booth/ in /the/ /same/ /box/ it was evident to me that these
are /standard/ /features/ /in/ /Leopard/ and, since the page made no
reference to Mac hardware, old or new, it was clear to me that these
features are not tied to particular Mac hardware, old or new. Since I
don't know how to read that any other way, I would be curious to know
what made you wonder if these features were somehow available on new
Macs only.
> But even so, Spring of fiscal year 2007 would still be Mar 21 to Jun 20.
In the northern hemisphere.
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My Reply-To address is valid.
That makes sense, but I wonder why that was never done in previous Apple
keynote speeches, at least I am pretty sure it was never done before.
> That makes sense, but I wonder why that was never done in previous Apple
> keynote speeches, at least I am pretty sure it was never done before.
Their new stereo webcam isn't ready yet,
so he needs two cameras for 3D iChat :-)
> Does that mean we can dismiss predictions of a 2006 release date?
When the head of Apple says in a keynote address to a conference of
software developers that Leopard will be release in the spring of 2007,
what do _you_ think that means? ;-)
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> Ian Gregory <f...@bar.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Does that mean we can dismiss predictions of a 2006 release date?
>
> When the head of Apple says in a keynote address to a conference of
> software developers that Leopard will be release in the spring of 2007,
> what do _you_ think that means? ;-)
Sometime between September 21 and December 21, 2007, obviously, which
is spring in the southern hemisphere. :-)
(I do enjoy the fact that because it chose to describe variants of the
iMac as iMac (Summer 2000) and iMac (Summer 2001), Apple is forced to
note on its support pages that "The parenthetical product descriptions
... refer to the summer of the Northern Hemisphere." See, for example,
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117>.)
- geoff