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H.B. Elkins

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Apr 29, 2012, 4:40:27 PM4/29/12
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Previously I used the freeware program 0SEx (or, alternately, OSEx) to rip .VOB
files from concert DVDs, then used a52DECx (another freeware program) to convert
those .VOB files to .MP3s to listen to on my iPod or to burn to an audio CD.

Under OS 10.6, 0SEx is broken. a52DECx seems to work OK, though.

Anyone know of a solution? Freeware would be great, although I don't mind paying
for something. If I do purchase something, I'd prefer an all-in-one solution
that wouldn't require me running .VOB files through a52DECx, although I'm OK
with doing that if I have to.

TIA...


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Jolly Roger

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Apr 29, 2012, 4:53:18 PM4/29/12
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In article <jnk8v...@drn.newsguy.com>,
Isn't Handbrake able to do this?

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Warren Oates

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Apr 29, 2012, 5:23:07 PM4/29/12
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In article <jnk8v...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

I don't know if you can decode audio-only with Handbrake, as Jolly Roger
suggested. FmpepgX will convert to .mp3 audio (and others) in one pass,
an you can "turn off" the audio decoding:

http://www.ffmpegx.com/

It's a trifle clunky to work with, although you can use it without all
the silly mencoder options. If you can work with the command line, you
can fine tune this stuff very nicely with ffmpeg.

http://ffmpeg.org/
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H.B. Elkins

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Apr 29, 2012, 9:31:52 PM4/29/12
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In article <jollyroger-AE5BA...@news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
says...

>Isn't Handbrake able to do this?

I have downloaded Handbrake. If it can do this, it's not intuitive as to what I
need to do.

In article <4f9db13c$0$30547$c3e8da3$f017...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
says...

>I don't know if you can decode audio-only with Handbrake, as Jolly Roger
>suggested. FmpepgX will convert to .mp3 audio (and others) in one pass,
>an you can "turn off" the audio decoding:
>
>http://www.ffmpegx.com/

FFmpegx didn't work because of encryption issues.

sbt

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Apr 29, 2012, 9:36:10 PM4/29/12
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In article <jnkq2...@drn.newsguy.com>, H.B. Elkins
If the DVDs are encrypted, Handbrake also needs VLC to be present so
that it can do the extraction.

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Warren Oates

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Apr 29, 2012, 11:11:54 PM4/29/12
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In article <jnkq2...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> FFmpegx didn't work because of encryption issues.
>

I tried it out on an unencrypted disc. How have you been decrypting the
stuff before?

You could use Mac the Ripper, I guess. There's something called
Fairmount that's supposed to be faster. I've had it for a while, but
I've never played with it.

http://www.metakine.com/products/fairmount/

H.B. Elkins

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Apr 30, 2012, 12:12:43 AM4/30/12
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In article <4f9e02fc$0$8490$c3e8da3$cc4f...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
says...

>I tried it out on an unencrypted disc. How have you been decrypting the
>stuff before?

0SEx to rip the chapters into .VOB files, then a52DECx to convert them into .MP3
files.

0SEx seems to be broken under OS 10.6.8, which is why I'm looking for a new
solution.

I have an old copy of Mac The Ripper, but it reports bad sectors on a DVD that
plays perfectly using the DVD Player app.

Thomas R. Kettler

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Apr 30, 2012, 4:58:45 AM4/30/12
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In article <jnl3f...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> In article <4f9e02fc$0$8490$c3e8da3$cc4f...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
> says...
>
> >I tried it out on an unencrypted disc. How have you been decrypting the
> >stuff before?
>
> 0SEx to rip the chapters into .VOB files, then a52DECx to convert them into
> .MP3
> files.
>
> 0SEx seems to be broken under OS 10.6.8, which is why I'm looking for a new
> solution.
>
> I have an old copy of Mac The Ripper, but it reports bad sectors on a DVD
> that
> plays perfectly using the DVD Player app.

If the DVD is from Sony, I'm not surprised. Sony deliberately puts bad
sectors into DVD's to prevent people from copying the ones they produce.
A DVD player will ignore them but if you copy the DVD to your hard
drive, it becomes a piece of sculpture. Also, it isn't just DVD's for
Sony Pictures (formerly Columbia) that are this way. The MGM DVD's of
James Bond movies were Sony manufacture also.
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Warren Oates

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Apr 30, 2012, 7:08:27 AM4/30/12
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In article <jnl3f...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> 0SEx to rip the chapters into .VOB files, then a52DECx to convert them into
> .MP3
> files.

I'm not totally sure what that means. The .VOB files are in the VIDEO_TS
folder, kinda the building blocks of DVD. There's lots because they're
restricted to 1 gig in size. The chapter structure is just markup.

Anyway.

H.B. Elkins

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Apr 30, 2012, 9:54:37 AM4/30/12
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In article <4f9e72ac$0$533$c3e8da3$4db3...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
says...
>
>In article <jnl3f...@drn.newsguy.com>,
> H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
>
>> 0SEx to rip the chapters into .VOB files, then a52DECx to convert them into
>> .MP3
>> files.
>
>I'm not totally sure what that means. The .VOB files are in the VIDEO_TS
>folder, kinda the building blocks of DVD. There's lots because they're
>restricted to 1 gig in size. The chapter structure is just markup.

On a concert DVD, each song is typically its own chapter. Therefore it makes
sense to rip the DVD chapter by chapter into .VOB files, then convert them into
.MP3s. The alternative is to rip the whole concert into one big .VOB file, then
convert it to .MP3 (or .AIFF or whatever) and then use some other utility to
split it into individual songs/tracks.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 30, 2012, 10:41:18 AM4/30/12
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In article <jnkq2...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-AE5BA...@news.individual.net>, Jolly
> Roger
> says...
>
> >Isn't Handbrake able to do this?
>
> I have downloaded Handbrake. If it can do this, it's not intuitive as to what
> I need to do.

What did you try, specifically? How did it fail to do what you wanted,
specifically?

H.B. Elkins

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May 2, 2012, 11:15:18 AM5/2/12
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In article <jollyroger-027E1...@news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
says...

>What did you try, specifically? How did it fail to do what you wanted,
>specifically?

Take the audio from a DVD and convert it, chapter by chapter, to an .MP3 or
other audio file.

Or, in the alternative, convert each chapter into a .VOB file that I can use
with another app to produce an audio file.

Jolly Roger

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May 2, 2012, 11:20:14 AM5/2/12
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In article <jnrj2...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-027E1...@news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> says...
>
> >What did you try, specifically? How did it fail to do what you wanted,
> >specifically?
>
> Take the audio from a DVD and convert it, chapter by chapter, to an .MP3 or
> other audio file.
>
> Or, in the alternative, convert each chapter into a .VOB file that I can use
> with another app to produce an audio file.

What I asked is what you specifically did in Handbrake, and how exactly
it did not meet your expectations.

Warren Oates

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May 2, 2012, 1:53:10 PM5/2/12
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In article <jnrj2...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> Or, in the alternative, convert each chapter into a .VOB file that I can use
> with another app to produce an audio file.

See, each "chapter" is already part of a .VOB file. Why don't you just
rip the whole DVD to .mkv (which supports chapters) and then grab the
bits you want?

What did Handbrake not do that you wanted it to? Is this about
decryption? Look here:

<http://www.macgasm.net/2012/02/20/vlc-2-0-breaks-dvd-decryption-in-handb
rake/>

I haven't tried it out.

Steve Fenwick

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May 4, 2012, 7:14:25 PM5/4/12
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In article <jnrj2...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-027E1...@news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> says...
>
> >What did you try, specifically? How did it fail to do what you wanted,
> >specifically?
>
> Take the audio from a DVD and convert it, chapter by chapter, to an .MP3 or
> other audio file.
>
> Or, in the alternative, convert each chapter into a .VOB file that I can use
> with another app to produce an audio file.

I suspect that MakeMKV would be happy to strip out the audio only from a
DVD, by unchecking the video from all the tracks to be ripped. Then you
need something to get the audio out of the .mkv--probably Handbrake,
maybe Amadeus.

Steve

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H.B. Elkins

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May 5, 2012, 10:25:32 AM5/5/12
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In article <jollyroger-61D3B...@news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
says...

>What I asked is what you specifically did in Handbrake, and how exactly
>it did not meet your expectations.

I specifically searched for a command or menu item to rip each individual
chapter -- each song in a concert video -- into a .VOB file

I also specifically searched for a command or menu item to rip the audio from
each individual chapter -- each song in a concert video -- into an .MP3 or .AIFF
or other audio file.

I failed to find a way to do either.

Jolly Roger

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May 5, 2012, 11:26:09 AM5/5/12
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In article <jo3d8...@drn.newsguy.com>,
If you are truly excluding any solution that isn't a single-step rip
from DVD to audio, your options are going to be extremely limited. Seems
a silly thing to do to me, but to each his own. You can easily rip the
chapters to mp4 files using Handbrake (that's what it is designed to do,
and it excels at it), and then extract only the audio tracks from those
files with any number of utilities. You won't find a single menu command
in Handbrake to do the rip. You'll need to actually use your brain a
little. There are plenty of tutorials on the net. I'll leave finding
them as an exercise for you. ; )

Warren Oates

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May 5, 2012, 11:34:21 AM5/5/12
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In article <jo3d8...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> I specifically searched for a command or menu item to rip each individual
> chapter -- each song in a concert video -- into a .VOB file
>
> I also specifically searched for a command or menu item to rip the audio from
> each individual chapter -- each song in a concert video -- into an .MP3 or
> .AIFF
> or other audio file.
>
> I failed to find a way to do either.

That's not surprising. It's a pretty obscure requirement. Decrypt your
DVD, then use ffmpegX (or the command line) to dump the entire audio out
to PCM (.aiff or .wav (or extract whatever's in there (really, don't
start with MP3s, please))) and then edit the bits you want with Audacity
or your choice of audio manipulation application.

Or take a look at this:

http://www.dvdae.com/

I haven't used it, but I doubt that it will rip stuff chapter-by-chapter
either.

Warren Oates

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May 5, 2012, 12:32:23 PM5/5/12
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In article <jollyroger-65BC3...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> If you are truly excluding any solution that isn't a single-step rip
> from DVD to audio, your options are going to be extremely limited. Seems
> a silly thing to do to me, but to each his own. You can easily rip the
> chapters to mp4 files using Handbrake (that's what it is designed to do,
> and it excels at it), and then extract only the audio tracks from those
> files with any number of utilities. You won't find a single menu command
> in Handbrake to do the rip. You'll need to actually use your brain a
> little. There are plenty of tutorials on the net. I'll leave finding
> them as an exercise for you. ; )

You're right. I just checked Handbrake again, and there _is_ an option
to rip chapter-by-chapter (or a range of chapters), or by a range of
time in seconds, or by a range of frames. It's not something I've ever
used.

So, yes, this can do what the OP wants, but for some reason, he wants to
rip to .VOB files, which I don't think handbrake can do.

Once he's got .mkv files, extracting the audio can be done with QT Pro
or ffmpeg or any number of utilities.

H.B. Elkins

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May 5, 2012, 8:48:53 PM5/5/12
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In article <4fa55617$0$6807$c3e8da3$9b4f...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
says...

>So, yes, this can do what the OP wants, but for some reason, he wants to
>rip to .VOB files, which I don't think handbrake can do.

Yes, that was the joy of using 0SEx and a52DECx together.

Warren Oates

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May 5, 2012, 9:46:21 PM5/5/12
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In article <jo4hp...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> In article <4fa55617$0$6807$c3e8da3$9b4f...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
> says...
>
> >So, yes, this can do what the OP wants, but for some reason, he wants to
> >rip to .VOB files, which I don't think handbrake can do.
>
> Yes, that was the joy of using 0SEx and a52DECx together.

Fair enough. I still don't understand why you want .VOB files. These are
part of the DVD specification, and are pretty much useless outside of a
DVD. We've told you (J.R. specifically) that if you just want the audio
from the various chapters in a DVD, you can get if with Handbrake.

H.B. Elkins

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May 14, 2012, 3:30:01 PM5/14/12
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In article <4fa5d7ed$0$2321$c3e8da3$3863...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
says...

>Fair enough. I still don't understand why you want .VOB files. These are
>part of the DVD specification, and are pretty much useless outside of a
>DVD. We've told you (J.R. specifically) that if you just want the audio
>from the various chapters in a DVD, you can get if with Handbrake.


I guess I'm just dense, because I can't figure out how to do it. ;-)
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H.B. Elkins

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In article <vilain-335562....@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain
says...
>
>In article <jormf...@drn.newsguy.com>,
> H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
>
>> In article <4fa5d7ed$0$2321$c3e8da3$3863...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
>> says...
>>
>> >Fair enough. I still don't understand why you want .VOB files. These are
>> >part of the DVD specification, and are pretty much useless outside of a
>> >DVD. We've told you (J.R. specifically) that if you just want the audio
>> >from the various chapters in a DVD, you can get if with Handbrake.
>>
>>
>> I guess I'm just dense, because I can't figure out how to do it. ;-)
>
>Time to hire a high-school student as a computer tutor. Or bag it and
>move on.

No need to be so uptight.

I have not found Handbrake to be particularly user-friendly or intuitive. The
steps necessary to do what I want (strip the audio from a DVD) are not
self-evident, or if they are I have overlooked them.

Instead of being snarky, you might instead try pointing a user to the
appropriate menu commands.

Jolly Roger

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May 16, 2012, 5:06:06 PM5/16/12
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In article <jp0ap...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

> In article <vilain-335562....@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain
> says...
> >
> >In article <jormf...@drn.newsguy.com>,
> > H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <4fa5d7ed$0$2321$c3e8da3$3863...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren
> >> Oates
> >> says...
> >>
> >> >Fair enough. I still don't understand why you want .VOB files. These are
> >> >part of the DVD specification, and are pretty much useless outside of a
> >> >DVD. We've told you (J.R. specifically) that if you just want the audio
> >> >from the various chapters in a DVD, you can get if with Handbrake.
> >>
> >>
> >> I guess I'm just dense, because I can't figure out how to do it. ;-)
> >
> >Time to hire a high-school student as a computer tutor. Or bag it and
> >move on.
>
> No need to be so uptight.
>
> I have not found Handbrake to be particularly user-friendly or intuitive. The
> steps necessary to do what I want (strip the audio from a DVD) are not
> self-evident, or if they are I have overlooked them.
>
> Instead of being snarky, you might instead try pointing a user to the
> appropriate menu commands.

You've already been told to use Handbrake to rip the DVD to mp4, then
use any number of mpeg editors to strip the video track and save the
audio track. As you've also already been told, there are numerous
tutorials online showing how to use Handbrake to rip DVDs. If you need
help with the rest, (for instance, choosing an editor to strip the video
track), just ask here.

Perhaps you want to learn about how to better ask for help? Simply
stating "I can't do it" isn't going to help those who are in a position
to help you figure out what you have tried and what you have not, which
can be key to helping you learn. If you can't be bothered to express
yourself in the form of a question sufficiently then why should anyone
else be bothered to pull teeth to get more information out of you to
help you?

Warren Oates

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May 16, 2012, 5:07:22 PM5/16/12
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In article <jp0ap...@drn.newsguy.com>,
H.B. Elkins <hbe...@gmail.com.restrictorplate> wrote:

>
> No need to be so uptight.

Well, the steps are fairly obvious. Launch Handbrake. Choose your DVD
"source." The very first line under the little icons (you know, those
picture things) says "Source:" followed by whatever "source" you chose.
The next line will give you a dropdown menu of "Titles," followed by a
dropdown menu of "Angles" (which you can ignore) and then (HELLO) a
dropdown menu starting with "Chapters" and then (HELLO) a couple of
dropdown menus letting you choose your range of (HELLO) "Chapters."

I don't see how it could be made any simpler. Do you need screenshots?
Or maybe that woman, I forget her name, Linda? Nancy? sells tutorial
videos, "I'm just going to go ahead and open my Applications folder ..."
and so on.

Although, I don't see how to stop it from transcoding the video. In
ffmpegX, you can turn the video transcode off.

H.B. Elkins

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May 17, 2012, 10:57:16 AM5/17/12
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Nevermind.

Something happened to cause me to have to restart my MacBook, and on a whim I
fired up 0SEx again, and it worked. Now I'm happily converting my Chicago "A&E
Live By Request" DVD to MP3 so I can either burn a CD or listen to the concert
on my iPod.

epuborp...@gmail.com

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