On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 20:51:01 -0800, corvid wrote:
> where are any Mac computers?
> I'd guess that iPads and iPhones play somewhat well with Macs.
It's a good question, where even I used to use the Mac in the days before
Microsoft Office went to hell on them (through no direct fault of Apple).
I still have a couple of those huge black tall cases!
And if you want to see a photo I'll show it as it's only on these child-like
Apple newsgroups you have the consummate bullshitters like these three:
b. Jolly Roger
>> those screenshots show many
>> of the huge differences in how each mobile device handles file copy on PCs.
> Windows, OK.
> Linux, OK.
> macOS... not seeing it.
Based on what I know of Apple products, they work well only when in the
confines of the walled garden; so yes. You should _expect_ the following:
a. Plug the iPad into a Mac over USB
b. I would expect the _entire_ visible file system to show up
c. For both read and for write
Can you tell me if that's so?
Without _any_ additional software whatsoever?
Does the _entire_ visible file system show up instantly when you connect?
For both read and write?
(A screenshot would be nice.)
>> a. iOS connected to Linux works perfectly (no extra software needed)
>> b. Android connected to Linux or Windows works perfectly also
>> c. It's just iOS connected to Windows that is a horrid clusterfuck
> A few iPhone users probably have a Mac, and don't use Linux.
> Really, why even stick Linux in here but exclude Mac?
It's mighty interesting you didn't _understand_ why Linux is brought up.
What that means is may not have any idea how things _should_ be working.
The reason for Linux is that when you plug an iPad into Linux over USB,
everything you could possibly want to be the case, is the case.
*The iOS file transfer functionality between iOS & Linux is beautiful.
Lovely in fact.
It's exactly the way God herself has always intended things to be.
The entire visible file system of the iPad instantly turns into a usb stick.
Everything you could possibly want to be visible... is visible.
Read _and_ write.
You can even see inside of iOS system files (like the iOS system log).
It's a beautiful sight to behold for someone who cares about functionality.
If you've never seen it in action, at least take a look at the screen shots.
The way Android works with Windows is also exactly as God intended it to be.
>> That's the problem we can solve but it will take work because we need an
>> iFuse port that's working on Windows and Apple will never provide a working
>> solution for full two-way file transfer without restriction to the entire
>> visible file system which we already have for all platforms except iOS.
> Where is macOS?
I am forced to use a Mac less and less over the years as I substitute teach
at the local high school, which has migrated almost completely off of Apple.
The Mac is far less of an abomination than the iPad simply because it's not
nearly as crippled as the iPad is. For example, on the Mac, you _can_ run a
system-wide firewall, and on the Mac you _can_ list the apps you've
installed into a file, and on the Mac you _can_ run a graphical wi-fi
Bear in mind that I am not a Windows/Linux/Android lover as I don't claim
Windows is perfect - as it's far from that and anyone on the Windows
newsgroups knows that _all_ of us talk about M$ in deprecating terms, just
as we did when Canonical tried to pull a fast one on us with Unity.
And certainly I have posted many times that I don't use Google products on
Android (I don't even have a Google login on my Android phone, nor a Windows
login on my PCs as I don't trust either company to safeguard my data).
I wonder though... since you bring up the vaunted Mac.
How _does_ the Mac work with iOS when you plug it into the USB port?
a. Does the Mac native file explorer see the entire visible iOS file system?
b. Can you both read _and_ write to that entire visible iOS file system?
c. Over USB? (without anything else)
If so, a screenshot would be nice as I'm not afraid to compare Mac:iOS file
USB transfer functionality to Linux:iOS file USB transfer functionality.