Re: Good $200 Android phone please

[Andy Burnelli]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 23:07:49 -0500, nospam wrote:

>>> My phone's apps list counts 78.
>>
>> Mine is over 1,600. <https://i.postimg.cc/bN875p8b/apk01.jpg>
>
> all of them on the phone at one time??

The standard sdcard gives you _choice_ of removable private storage, nospam.
Not only removable, but _portable_ private storage to/from a phone, nospam.

That's why over 99% of all Android phones have that portable storage choice.

*They are _choices_ Apple doesn't provide*; so you can't comprehend them.
The fact is it's my _choice_ what I do with my sdcard slot on all my phones.

1. In this specific example, it's my _choice_ to extract APKs to the sdcard.
<https://i.postimg.cc/8zBjX5kJ/aurora09.jpg>
2. It's also my choice to _not delete_ APKs post install from Google Play
<https://i.postimg.cc/Z5kdD2rg/aurora04.jpg>
3. It's also my _choice_ to use the same sdcard & APKs on different phones.
<https://i.postimg.cc/TwKwyBf8/migration03.jpg>

These are basic _choices_ that you don't have with Apple iPhones, nospam.
*portable private storage*

Apple decontents iPhones so as to eliminate those choices from your options.

[corvid]

On 1/27/22 21:07, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> That's why over 99% of all Android phones have that portable storage
> choice.

I was checking out with the groceries, and a Costco associate was
prodding me to get the app. When I told her that "I don't have a
smartphone", she said that "It works with Android too."

[Michael Trew]

These big-box stores are full of pushy sales people, it seems. I
suppose many of them aren't very smart. I don't plan to renew my Sams
Club membership. They constantly have pushers in the store trying to
sell you things. The cashiers harass you about opening a credit card, etc.

[sms]

On 2/4/2022 9:19 AM, Michael Trew wrote:

<snip>

> These big-box stores are full of pushy sales people, it seems.  I
> suppose many of them aren't very smart.  I don't plan to renew my Sams
> Club membership.  They constantly have pushers in the store trying to
> sell you things.  The cashiers harass you about opening a credit card, etc.

At Costco they are constantly pushing Executive Membership upgrades,
Costco Citibank Visa, auto-renewal, and now "the App." I think that the
best approach is the same one you use when buying a car or a phone or a
television, simply say "no to all your questions." On the other hand,
often they have some sort of promotional item you can get if you sign up
so it might be worth it and you can always cancel later if you decide
that you don't want whatever it is they're pushing. But the savings at
Costco are so enormous that I would not cancel my membership just
because of a few annoying people trying to sell you stuff.

I go to Costco a lot. I've been to Costco stores in six countries. But I
usually don't use the digital membership card in the app and I usually
don't pay with the Costco Citibank Visa (exceptions are gasoline and
items where the 2 year extended warranty make it worthwhile). The credit
card I use the most gives 3% back on mobile wallet purchases so I use
that card most of the time, with Apple Pay, Google Pay, or Samsung Pay
(Samsung Pay is especially useful because many stores don't take Apple
Pay or Google Pay yet).

What is annoying is that Costco doesn't officially allow digital
membership cards to be stored in Apple Wallet or in Google Pay, they
want you to use their app instead.

I added my Costco Card to both my iPhone and Android phone. It's much
nicer to have all your cards in one place than to be scattered around in
various apps.

How to Add Unsupported Cards to Apple Wallet and Google Pay
-----------------------------------------------------------
For Costco, generate the bar code (EAN-13 format) for your member
number, and create a membership card JPG with the Costco logo and a
photo. Just make it look similar to your physical card. Only the bar
code really matters, but make it look like the real card.

To add it to your phone, for iOS use the Pass2U App
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pass2u-wallet-cards-coupons/id1142473931>
to load it into your digital wallet; for Android use the Pass2Pay app
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=color.dev.com.tangerine>
to add the card to Google Pay.

Unfortunately, the Pass2U app on iOS doesn't allow a large image of the
card to be stored, you get a big bar code but only a tiny image of the
card, so it might not satisfy a cashier who wants to see the picture
(but will work fine at self-checkout). The Android Pass2Pay app is much
better, you get a large image of the card in Google Pay.

Costco won't be able to do official Apple Wallet digital cards because
Apple Wallet doesn't support the EAN-13 bar code format (Apple Wallet
supports only Aztec, Code 128, PDF417, and QR). Google Pay supports
Aztec, Code 39, Code 128, EAN-13, PDF 417, QR, UPC-A so it would be
possible for Costco to do a Google Pay digital card. The paid version of
Pass2U also supports EAN-13, but not the free version.

At self-checkout, all that matters is the bar code of the member number.
This is really a weak system because there is no checking as to whether
or not the person checking out is a member or is using someone else's card.

I detail this in #133a in the document
<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>.

BTW, for flip phones, you could still put an image of a Costco
Membership card on the phone.

[Michael Trew]

On 2/4/2022 14:02, sms wrote:
> On 2/4/2022 9:19 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> These big-box stores are full of pushy sales people, it seems. I
>> suppose many of them aren't very smart. I don't plan to renew my Sams
>> Club membership. They constantly have pushers in the store trying to
>> sell you things. The cashiers harass you about opening a credit card,
>> etc.
>
> At Costco they are constantly pushing Executive Membership upgrades,
> Costco Citibank Visa, auto-renewal, and now "the App." I think that the
> best approach is the same one you use when buying a car or a phone or a
> television, simply say "no to all your questions." On the other hand,
> often they have some sort of promotional item you can get if you sign up
> so it might be worth it and you can always cancel later if you decide
> that you don't want whatever it is they're pushing. But the savings at
> Costco are so enormous that I would not cancel my membership just
> because of a few annoying people trying to sell you stuff.

Similar pushes at Sams Club. I suppose I save money, but I don't have a
large family to buy for; typically just me, so it really isn't worth it.
As I normally do, I paid in cash last time, and I gave the cashier a
death-glance when she started on the typical credit card sales spiel "I
see that you're using cash; did you know...?" I get far less aggravated
just shopping at a normal grocery store.

[sms]

On 2/4/2022 7:57 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

<snip>

> Similar pushes at Sams Club.  I suppose I save money, but I don't have a
> large family to buy for; typically just me, so it really isn't worth it.
>  As I normally do, I paid in cash last time, and I gave the cashier a
> death-glance when she started on the typical credit card sales spiel "I
> see that you're using cash; did you know...?"  I get far less aggravated
> just shopping at a normal grocery store.

Cash is pretty rare at Costco these days. The self-checkouts are card or
phone only, and of course you don't get the 2-3% back on purchases when
you pay cash and that can really add up at Costco.

Cash also slows the checkout process but so few people still pay cash
that it's not a big deal. I did get stuck behind someone paying cash a
couple of weeks ago. Deep breath as he counts out the bills and coins
and the cashier counts the bills and coins.

It would be nice if they designated one staffed line that accepted cash
and then didn't take cash at all the other lines. It would greatly
reduce the lag time when they change cashiers, as well as reduce the
time needed to count the contents of the register.

Some of the Costco food courts stopped taking cash completely. For a
while they had eight self-order kiosks but they still had one worker who
could take cash. Now if you want to pay cash you have to go to a regular
store checkout line and place your order. And of course the Costco gas
station has never taken cash. It's also sped things up now that you can
just scan your Citibank Costco card to both verify your membership and pay.

The savings at Costco are not just the lower prices on many items, it's
the included warranties. A television, refrigerator, dishwasher,
computer, etc., comes with a four year warranty if you pay with your
Citibank Costco Visa card. I've saved many years of membership fees with
those warranties.

[Ken Blake]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 05:47:15 -0800, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 2/4/2022 7:57 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Similar pushes at Sams Club.  I suppose I save money, but I don't have a
>> large family to buy for; typically just me, so it really isn't worth it.
>>  As I normally do, I paid in cash last time, and I gave the cashier a
>> death-glance when she started on the typical credit card sales spiel "I
>> see that you're using cash; did you know...?"  I get far less aggravated
>> just shopping at a normal grocery store.
>
>Cash is pretty rare at Costco these days. The self-checkouts are card or
>phone only, and of course you don't get the 2-3% back on purchases when
>you pay cash and that can really add up at Costco.
>
>Cash also slows the checkout process but so few people still pay cash
>that it's not a big deal. I did get stuck behind someone paying cash a
>couple of weeks ago. Deep breath as he counts out the bills and coins
>and the cashier counts the bills and coins.
>
>It would be nice if they designated one staffed line that accepted cash
>and then didn't take cash at all the other lines. It would greatly
>reduce the lag time when they change cashiers, as well as reduce the
>time needed to count the contents of the register.

That's a very good idea. They should.

But in my opinion, the use of cash is going away. I almost never use
it anymore, and my guess is that it won't be too many years before
cash is gone as a method of payment.

>Some of the Costco food courts stopped taking cash completely. For a
>while they had eight self-order kiosks but they still had one worker who
>could take cash. Now if you want to pay cash you have to go to a regular
>store checkout line and place your order. And of course the Costco gas
>station has never taken cash. It's also sped things up now that you can
>just scan your Citibank Costco card to both verify your membership and pay.
>
>The savings at Costco are not just the lower prices on many items, it's
>the included warranties. A television, refrigerator, dishwasher,
>computer, etc., comes with a four year warranty if you pay with your
>Citibank Costco Visa card. I've saved many years of membership fees with
>those warranties.

I save the cost of membership just buying gas at Costco.

[sms]

On 2/5/2022 8:23 AM, Ken Blake wrote:

<snip>

>> It would be nice if they designated one staffed line that accepted cash
>> and then didn't take cash at all the other lines. It would greatly
>> reduce the lag time when they change cashiers, as well as reduce the
>> time needed to count the contents of the register.
>
>
> That's a very good idea. They should.
>
> But in my opinion, the use of cash is going away. I almost never use
> it anymore, and my guess is that it won't be too many years before
> cash is gone as a method of payment.

Yes, that's true. Some cities have passed ordinances requiring
businesses to accept cash, but it's not too common, and a lot of
businesses already do not accept cash. Handling cash is just too
expensive for businessesL counting cash drawers, dealing with employee
errors and employee theft, counterfeit bills, safes, pneumatic tubes
(Costco used to use those to send excess cash back to the secure area,
armored car service, and bank fees.

The reason some small businesses want you to pay in cash has nothing to
do with credit card fees or debit card fees.

Last time I was in China in 2019, cash was rare except for tourists.
Finally the Chinese government is allowing tourists to use Alipay, but
in September 2019 they were not.

>> Some of the Costco food courts stopped taking cash completely. For a
>> while they had eight self-order kiosks but they still had one worker who
>> could take cash. Now if you want to pay cash you have to go to a regular
>> store checkout line and place your order. And of course the Costco gas
>> station has never taken cash. It's also sped things up now that you can
>> just scan your Citibank Costco card to both verify your membership and pay.
>>
>> The savings at Costco are not just the lower prices on many items, it's
>> the included warranties. A television, refrigerator, dishwasher,
>> computer, etc., comes with a four year warranty if you pay with your
>> Citibank Costco Visa card. I've saved many years of membership fees with
>> those warranties.
>
>
> I save the cost of membership just buying gas at Costco.

True. The last long road trip we took I mapped out the gasoline stops so
it would be at Costco whenever possible, though in some areas of Utah
and Arizona there were no Costcos. Saved about $50 in gas just in that
one and a half weeks.

As electric cars take over that gas station benefit will diminish.
Eventually the gas stations will go the way of the photo centers.

[Ken Blake]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 10:06:11 -0800, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 2/5/2022 8:23 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>> It would be nice if they designated one staffed line that accepted cash
>>> and then didn't take cash at all the other lines. It would greatly
>>> reduce the lag time when they change cashiers, as well as reduce the
>>> time needed to count the contents of the register.
>>
>>
>> That's a very good idea. They should.
>>
>> But in my opinion, the use of cash is going away. I almost never use
>> it anymore, and my guess is that it won't be too many years before
>> cash is gone as a method of payment.
>
>Yes, that's true. Some cities have passed ordinances requiring
>businesses to accept cash, but it's not too common, and a lot of
>businesses already do not accept cash. Handling cash is just too
>expensive for businessesL counting cash drawers, dealing with employee
>errors and employee theft, counterfeit bills, safes, pneumatic tubes
>(Costco used to use those to send excess cash back to the secure area,
>armored car service, and bank fees.
>
>The reason some small businesses want you to pay in cash has nothing to
>do with credit card fees or debit card fees.
>
>Last time I was in China in 2019, cash was rare except for tourists.
>Finally the Chinese government is allowing tourists to use Alipay, but
>in September 2019 they were not.

I especially never want to use cash when I'm in a foreign country. If
I get some cash, I'm invariably left with some when I return home, and
it will be useless unless I ever visit the same country again. Even if
do revisit the same country, it may be useless; I still have some
Italian Lire.

>>> Some of the Costco food courts stopped taking cash completely. For a
>>> while they had eight self-order kiosks but they still had one worker who
>>> could take cash. Now if you want to pay cash you have to go to a regular
>>> store checkout line and place your order. And of course the Costco gas
>>> station has never taken cash. It's also sped things up now that you can
>>> just scan your Citibank Costco card to both verify your membership and pay.
>>>
>>> The savings at Costco are not just the lower prices on many items, it's
>>> the included warranties. A television, refrigerator, dishwasher,
>>> computer, etc., comes with a four year warranty if you pay with your
>>> Citibank Costco Visa card. I've saved many years of membership fees with
>>> those warranties.
>>
>>
>> I save the cost of membership just buying gas at Costco.
>
>True. The last long road trip we took I mapped out the gasoline stops so
>it would be at Costco whenever possible, though in some areas of Utah
>and Arizona there were no Costcos. Saved about $50 in gas just in that
>one and a half weeks.
>
>As electric cars take over that gas station benefit will diminish.
>Eventually the gas stations will go the way of the photo centers.

Yes, and also the way of cash.

By the way, I've been in several gas stations around the country that
didn't take cash. They required entering your credit or debit card
before you pumped the gas.

Speaking of credit or debit cards, I never use debit cards. I greatly
prefer credit cards.

[Rod Speed]

Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com> wrote
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote
>> Michael Trew wrote

>>> Similar pushes at Sams Club. I suppose I save money, but I don't have
>>> a
>>> large family to buy for; typically just me, so it really isn't worth
>>> it.
>>> As I normally do, I paid in cash last time, and I gave the cashier a
>>> death-glance when she started on the typical credit card sales spiel "I
>>> see that you're using cash; did you know...?" I get far less
>>> aggravated
>>> just shopping at a normal grocery store.
>>
>> Cash is pretty rare at Costco these days. The self-checkouts are card or
>> phone only, and of course you don't get the 2-3% back on purchases when
>> you pay cash and that can really add up at Costco.
>>
>> Cash also slows the checkout process but so few people still pay cash
>> that it's not a big deal. I did get stuck behind someone paying cash a
>> couple of weeks ago. Deep breath as he counts out the bills and coins
>> and the cashier counts the bills and coins.
>>
>> It would be nice if they designated one staffed line that accepted cash
>> and then didn't take cash at all the other lines. It would greatly
>> reduce the lag time when they change cashiers, as well as reduce the
>> time needed to count the contents of the register.
>
>
> That's a very good idea. They should.
>
> But in my opinion, the use of cash is going away. I almost never use
> it anymore,

I only use cash anymore at garage/yard sales.

While I can pay anyone with a cellphone number,
it isn't worth trying to convince the seller that that
is just as good as cash and it isn't as convenient
for the seller as cash anyway unless they have
set it up already themselves. And they can't use
the payment as change for other buyers either.

> and my guess is that it won't be too many years before
> cash is gone as a method of payment.

It will be interesting to watch. It's close to that in china
now. Even buying say a roll of toilet paper or a bottle of
water at a tiny hole in the wall stall near your house isn't
done with cash anymore, they use WeChat on their phone.

[Michael Trew]

On 2/5/2022 8:47, sms wrote:
> On 2/4/2022 7:57 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Similar pushes at Sams Club. I suppose I save money, but I don't have
>> a large family to buy for; typically just me, so it really isn't worth
>> it. As I normally do, I paid in cash last time, and I gave the
>> cashier a death-glance when she started on the typical credit card
>> sales spiel "I see that you're using cash; did you know...?" I get
>> far less aggravated just shopping at a normal grocery store.
>
> Cash is pretty rare at Costco these days. The self-checkouts are card or
> phone only, and of course you don't get the 2-3% back on purchases when
> you pay cash and that can really add up at Costco.
>
> Cash also slows the checkout process but so few people still pay cash
> that it's not a big deal. I did get stuck behind someone paying cash a
> couple of weeks ago. Deep breath as he counts out the bills and coins
> and the cashier counts the bills and coins.

It took me about 15 seconds to count it and hand my money to the cashier.

> It would be nice if they designated one staffed line that accepted cash
> and then didn't take cash at all the other lines. It would greatly
> reduce the lag time when they change cashiers, as well as reduce the
> time needed to count the contents of the register.
>
> Some of the Costco food courts stopped taking cash completely. For a
> while they had eight self-order kiosks but they still had one worker who
> could take cash. Now if you want to pay cash you have to go to a regular
> store checkout line and place your order. And of course the Costco gas
> station has never taken cash. It's also sped things up now that you can
> just scan your Citibank Costco card to both verify your membership and pay.

Yes, that's why I don't buy fuel there. My Sams Club is in Pennsylvania
anyway, and gas is cheaper either way where I live in Ohio.

> The savings at Costco are not just the lower prices on many items, it's
> the included warranties. A television, refrigerator, dishwasher,
> computer, etc., comes with a four year warranty if you pay with your
> Citibank Costco Visa card. I've saved many years of membership fees with
> those warranties.

Eh, you and I aren't on the same level; I'm used to that, though. I've
never looked at a warranty. My refrigerator is a Westinghouse built in
1942 (my only refrigerator). I do intend for it to last forever, or at
least pretty close.

https://postimg.cc/wRdGMTGk

TV has most of my appliances beat, a circa 1992 wooden console RCA TV.
I'll be disappointed if that one goes out, but I do have a 19" 1960's
B&W TV in cellar storage ;)

The best part is: I paid nothing, or next to nothing, for all of my
appliances. I think I gave the old guy $10 for the console TV, maybe.
Wooden cabinet was in immaculate shape, and the remote control still works.

[Michael Trew]

Over my cold, dead body.

>> The savings at Costco are not just the lower prices on many items, it's
>> the included warranties. A television, refrigerator, dishwasher,
>> computer, etc., comes with a four year warranty if you pay with your
>> Citibank Costco Visa card. I've saved many years of membership fees with
>> those warranties.
>
> I save the cost of membership just buying gas at Costco.

Still costs me 25 cents per gallon more for fuel (conservatively
estimating) at the big box store. I live over the Ohio border, and it's
way cheaper on my side than PA state.

[The Real Bev]

On 02/05/2022 10:39 AM, Ken Blake wrote:

> I especially never want to use cash when I'm in a foreign country. If
> I get some cash, I'm invariably left with some when I return home, and
> it will be useless unless I ever visit the same country again. Even if
> do revisit the same country, it may be useless; I still have some
> Italian Lire.

Our Mexican dentist gives a 10% discount for cash. Pretty much every
place in Tijuana can sell and make change with American money.

2% back with the credit card is like bending over to pick up free money.
No trouble, and every little bit helps.


--
Cheers, Bev
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can
only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote
themselves largess out of the public treasury."
-- Alexander Tyler (Unverified)

[Ken Blake]

80 years already! That's very close to forever. 1942 refrigerators
lasted a long time. If it ever dies and you get a new one, you'll be
very disappointed to find out that these days you should expect to
replace a refrigerator every ten years or so.

[Rod Speed]

Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote
> Ken Blake wrote

>> sms<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote
>>> Michael Trew wrote

Likely will be when no one will sell you any food when all you have is
cash.

[Rod Speed]

Mine still works fine. I no longer use it because it has a tiny
little frosen food thing that is really only big enough for a big
icecream container and it's stupid having to manually defrost it.

> If it ever dies and you get a new one, you'll be
> very disappointed to find out that these days you should expect to
> replace a refrigerator every ten years or so.

What I use now has lasted longer than that with no failures at all
and never needs defrosting is is much bigger than the old one.
Separate vastly bigger pigeon pair dedicated freezer which also
has never failed and never needs defrosting and doesnt ice up
the frosen food like the bar fridge sized manual defrost freezers
I also still have but dont use anymore.

[Hank Rogers]

Damn, you got one that lasted 10 whole years?

[Ken Blake]

[Ken Blake]

On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 11:51:16 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

I moved into this house 29 years ago, when it was new and had a brand
new refrigerator. I'm on my third refrigerator now, and this one's ice
dispenser on the door no longer works. I expect to need a new one
soon.

[John]

On Sat, 05 Feb 2022 11:39:55 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

<<snipped>>

>
>
>I especially never want to use cash when I'm in a foreign country. If
>I get some cash, I'm invariably left with some when I return home, and
>it will be useless unless I ever visit the same country again. Even if
>do revisit the same country, it may be useless; I still have some
>Italian Lire.

Charity shops in UKland collect those sorts of dead monies from
countries you are never going to re-visit. Some of them even collect
really dead currencies like lira, francs and marks. If you mention
that the money may have collectible value to collectors some of the
smarter volunteers may even be able to aggregate lots which will
provide them with much desired funds.

Some coins and notes from local currencies can also be rare and
values even though they are circulating and a few charity shops have
volunteers who search for such things.

Perusing their websites may help with this. Look under "what we
accept".


>
>
<<snipped>>

>
>
>Yes, and also the way of cash.

Cash will never die. No one is going to buy [no one except for the
people who trust the Nigerian Prince] illicit stuff with their credit
cards.

BitCoin-like crypto-currencies are not a solution to that problem. At
some point in the chain those, too, must be bought and if bought with
cards they can eventually be traced. Only cash-to-crypto is even
theoretically safe, and that only if the cash itself isn't marked,
tagged and tracked.

Politicians, judges, cops and informants, among many other classes
will always need brown envelopes stuffed with notes. They may wish
cash to become difficult for us honest folk to use but it will still
always be available.

Though some UKlander shop-girls do smile gently when I ask if they
still take cash.

>
>By the way, I've been in several gas stations around the country that
>didn't take cash. They required entering your credit or debit card
>before you pumped the gas.

That makes it very difficult for those of us who don't have bank
accounts.

But perhaps that sub-section of the people don't have *cars*, either?
If not, then the petrol distributors won't give a rat's fart for them.

>
>Speaking of credit or debit cards, I never use debit cards. I greatly
>prefer credit cards.

For the protection?

I haven't had a CC for more than a decade. I've never missed them.
But I'm in UKland so maybe we're different?

J.

[John Doe]

The second time here in a week this nym-shifting troll
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Maybe it should use some of those Best Buy credits
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[Edward Hernandez]

John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 64.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 2199 articles to USENET. Of which 176 have been pure insults and
1237 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Thu, 23 Jun 2022 07:11:34 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t913n6$v2f$5...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Dope does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

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