The person who normally gives me these files knows to save them as plain
text, but someone else has sent me the file this time who does not know how
to do this <grumble grumble>.
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try abiword. it's free and supports many different file types.
> The person who normally gives me these files knows to save them as plain
> text, but someone else has sent me the file this time who does not know how
> to do this <grumble grumble>.
You'll have to wait until someone can send you the file in a txt
format. AFAIK there's no word processor that can currently open Works
files on the Mac. The converter you downloaded only works if you use
it in conjunction with either Works or Word.
--
Tara
WPS files are created by Microsoft Works, not Corel WordPerfect, or are
you saying that WP can open Works files? I didn't think anything but
Works, or Word via converter, could do that.
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> On Feb 23, 5:30 pm, Sally Thompson
> <sallynewsgr...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> I know there has been a previous discussion of this on here, which I found
>> in
>> the archives, but has anyone actually succeeded in opening a .wps file on a
>> Mac?
<snip>
>
> try abiword. it's free and supports many different file types.
Thanks for the reply, but I've looked at abiword and it doesn't seem to
support .wps files (which are from msworks).
Thanks for the thought, Michael, but as Tara says .wps files are MSWorks
files. I cannot see anything on the Word Perfect for Mac site that suggests
they can open .wps files.
All right, thanks for that. You have really confirmed what I believed, that
I cannot open them in any way and might as well stop looking! I will have to
go over to this person's house and hold her hand and show her how to do it
now and in the future.
I am grateful for the confirmation.
Sally Thompson wrote:
> I know there has been a previous discussion of this on here, which I found in
> the archives, but has anyone actually succeeded in opening a .wps file on a
> Mac? I have downloaded Open Office, but it does not recognise the file. I
> am reluctant to download Neo Office as well unless I know it will definitely
> work! I have a G5 iMac running Tiger, with Office for Mac. I also have
> Virtual PC with Windows XP but no word processing facilities of any kind
> there - although I tried shoving the file over to the Windows bit and opening
> it in Word Pad and Note Pad. I also tried downloading a Works to Word
> converter onto Windows XP, but nothing seems to happen when I try to convert
> the file.
The only app that will open a .wps file is Abiword 2.4.5. -
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/14743 - Both
OpenOffice and NeoOffice claim that they do the trick, but they don't.
> The person who normally gives me these files knows to save them as plain
> text, but someone else has sent me the file this time who does not know how
> to do this <grumble grumble>.
Hm, can't you convince these people to save into either Word 2000 or RTF
for Windows? - This will save both time and 'grumbling' from any of you.:-)
Cheers, Erik Richard
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Michael Vilain wrote:
> "dmr" <nydro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sally Thompson <sallynewsgr...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>> I know there has been a previous discussion of this on here, which
>>> I found in the archives, but has anyone actually succeeded in
>>> opening a .wps file on a Mac? I have downloaded Open Office, but
>>> it does not recognise the file. I am reluctant to download Neo
>>> Office as well unless I know it will definitely work! I have a G5
>>> iMac running Tiger, with Office for Mac. I also have Virtual PC
>>> with Windows XP but no word processing facilities of any kind
>>> there - although I tried shoving the file over to the Windows bit
>>> and opening it in Word Pad and Note Pad. I also tried downloading
>>> a Works to Word converter onto Windows XP, but nothing seems to
>>> happen when I try to convert the file.
>>>
>>> The person who normally gives me these files knows to save them as plain
>>> text, but someone else has sent me the file this time who does not know how
>>> to do this <grumble grumble>.
>>
>> try abiword. it's free and supports many different file types.
>
> Or install Word Perfect for Mac:
>
> http://acmfiles.csusb.edu/corel/wpmac.html
1 - It requires Mac OS 9.x installed as classic envirement...
2 - I'm not sure that it can open the WordPerfect files newer than from
WordPerfect 8.x and the 'Corel Office Suite 9'. - The WPfct ver. in this
package is a modified ver. 8.01.
So the best will still be the Abiword 2.4.5.
cheers, Erik Richard
As I wrote last time this discussion was up, .wps files are not created
with Microsoft Works, but instead with Corel WordPerfect 9 or later
(Corel Office Suyite 9.x). You can easily see this if you download
RCDefaultApp and look into the files and applications lists.
Cheers, Erik Richard
--
> As I wrote last time this discussion was up, .wps files are not created
> with Microsoft Works, but instead with Corel WordPerfect 9 or later
> (Corel Office Suyite 9.x).
Yeah, well, that's what you wrote, but it was true then and remains true
now that the .wps extension really is used on Microsoft Works text
documents, as a quick Google search indicates:
<http://whatis.techtarget.com/file-extension-list-W/0,289967,sid9,00.htm
l>
<http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=WPS>
<http://www.liutilities.com/products/winbackup/filextlibrary/files/WPS/>
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> Hei Tara
>
> As I wrote last time this discussion was up, .wps files are not created
> with Microsoft Works, but instead with Corel WordPerfect 9 or later
> (Corel Office Suyite 9.x). You can easily see this if you download
> RCDefaultApp and look into the files and applications lists.
Erik, I have WP for Windows and it creates .wpd files, not .wps. There
are many Google returns for this extension and each will tell you that
its associated with Microsoft Works files.
Tara
> Erik, I have WP for Windows and it creates .wpd files, not .wps. There
> are many Google returns for this extension and each will tell you that
> its associated with Microsoft Works files.
Perhaps he's consistently misread it as ".wp5" since that extension
really was used by WordPerfect.
I have never seen other file suffix for MSWorks other than these .WKS,
.wks - or from the real old versions - .mwks.
And I still use Abiword to open .wps files without problems!
cheers, ERik Richard
Mike Rosenberg wrote:
> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOS...@NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>> As I wrote last time this discussion was up, .wps files are not created
>> with Microsoft Works, but instead with Corel WordPerfect 9 or later
>> (Corel Office Suyite 9.x).
>
> Yeah, well, that's what you wrote, but it was true then and remains true
> now that the .wps extension really is used on Microsoft Works text
> documents, as a quick Google search indicates:
>
> <http://whatis.techtarget.com/file-extension-list-W/0,289967,sid9,00.html>
> <http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=WPS>
> <http://www.liutilities.com/products/winbackup/filextlibrary/files/WPS/>
--
scfundogs wrote:
> Erik Richard Sørensen said:
>> As I wrote last time this discussion was up, .wps files are not
>> created with Microsoft Works, but instead with Corel WordPerfect 9 or
>> later (Corel Office Suyite 9.x). You can easily see this if you
>> download RCDefaultApp and look into the files and applications lists.
>
> Erik, I have WP for Windows and it creates .wpd files, not .wps.
which version of WordPerfect? - the stand-alone WordPerfect or 'Corel
Office Suite?
> There are many Google returns for this extension and each will tell
> you that its associated with Microsoft Works files.
I know. But I also know that our local county authorities until last
year used the Corel Office Suite, but they switched to OpenOffice
instead, since Corel will no longer make local translations for the
Scandinavian languages. - All files we got from our authorities were
either in .PDF or in .wps. - I had some writings forth and back, where
they would force me to pay some tax that I should not pay. - all files
were in .wps and taking an info using fx. 'Get More Info' from Barebones
surely tells that these files are from WordPerfect.
cheers, Erik Richard
> scfundogs wrote:
> > Erik Richard Sørensen said:
> >> As I wrote last time this discussion was up, .wps files are not
> >> created with Microsoft Works, but instead with Corel WordPerfect 9 or
> >> later (Corel Office Suyite 9.x). You can easily see this if you
> >> download RCDefaultApp and look into the files and applications lists.
> >
> > Erik, I have WP for Windows and it creates .wpd files, not .wps.
>
> which version of WordPerfect? - the stand-alone WordPerfect or 'Corel
> Office Suite?
>
> > There are many Google returns for this extension and each will tell
> > you that its associated with Microsoft Works files.
>
> I know. But I also know that our local county authorities until last
> year used the Corel Office Suite, but they switched to OpenOffice
> instead, since Corel will no longer make local translations for the
> Scandinavian languages. - All files we got from our authorities were
> either in .PDF or in .wps. - I had some writings forth and back, where
> they would force me to pay some tax that I should not pay. - all files
> were in .wps and taking an info using fx. 'Get More Info' from Barebones
> surely tells that these files are from WordPerfect.
.wps is the extension for MS Works word processing docs. The Google
search took 0.14 seconds to reveal this.
--
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> .wps is the extension for MS Works word processing docs. The Google
> search took 0.14 seconds to reveal this.
Yeah, that was the search time within Google, but I'll wager the entire
operation took several seconds overall. You can't really expect him to
devote that amount of time to avoid looking like a horse's ass once
again, can you?
> Hei Sally
>
> Sally Thompson wrote:
>> I know there has been a previous discussion of this on here, which I found
>> in
>> the archives, but has anyone actually succeeded in opening a .wps file on a
>> Mac? I have downloaded Open Office, but it does not recognise the file. I
>> am reluctant to download Neo Office as well unless I know it will
>> definitely
>> work! I have a G5 iMac running Tiger, with Office for Mac. I also have
>> Virtual PC with Windows XP but no word processing facilities of any kind
>> there - although I tried shoving the file over to the Windows bit and
>> opening
>> it in Word Pad and Note Pad. I also tried downloading a Works to Word
>> converter onto Windows XP, but nothing seems to happen when I try to
>> convert
>> the file.
>
> The only app that will open a .wps file is Abiword 2.4.5. -
> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/14743 - Both
> OpenOffice and NeoOffice claim that they do the trick, but they don't.
Erik, I am grateful for your help, but as I said before, .wps files are not
listed as supported files on the Abiword web site. However, I have now
downloaded Abiword from the VersionTracker link, and it will not open the
.wps file. The error message is that it is an invalid file. For the
information of anyone else with this problem, .wps is NOT a file type listed
on Abiword. Under Open File As, I tried three things: WordPerfect (shown
as.wpd and .wp extensions) [NB it states .wp, *not* .wps]. I also tried
Automatically Detect, and I also changed the .wps file to a .txt extension
and tried to open it as a .txt file. None of these would work. I have in
fact managed to retrieve the file through a third party, but would like to
sort this for the future in case it happens again.
The person concerned is definitely using MS Works, *not* Word Perfect in any
form.
>> The person who normally gives me these files knows to save them as plain
>> text, but someone else has sent me the file this time who does not know how
>> to do this <grumble grumble>.
>
> Hm, can't you convince these people to save into either Word 2000 or RTF
> for Windows? - This will save both time and 'grumbling' from any of you.:-)
<g> I try, I try, really I do. I live in a rural area where the majority of
people are not exactly at the cutting edge of technology :-)
Sample conversation.
Me: What Operating System are you on? Them: Works. <Me: Sigh>.
Me: What browser do you use - I expect it's Internet Explorer?. Them: No, I
have a Dell (I kid you not, this is a real conversation).
Mostly they are scared to do anything *different*, but as I said I will go
through a hand-holding exercise in this particular case.
> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
> > .wps is the extension for MS Works word processing docs. The Google
> > search took 0.14 seconds to reveal this.
>
> Yeah, that was the search time within Google, but I'll wager the entire
> operation took several seconds overall. You can't really expect him to
> devote that amount of time to avoid looking like a horse's ass once
> again, can you?
Well, it would be foolish of him to waste the investment he has into it
so far...
> The person concerned is definitely using MS Works, *not* Word Perfect in any
> form.
Sally, email me a sample file. I may be able to convert it for you.
dave at balderstone dot see, eh?
> The person concerned is definitely using MS Works, *not* Word Perfect in
> any form.
Oh, everyone but Erik understood that going back to your original post.
You never stood a chance with Abiword. Heck, even MS Word won't open
Works text files (nor will Excel open Works spreadsheets, for that
matter).
> > The person concerned is definitely using MS Works, *not* Word Perfect in
> > any form.
>
> Sally, email me a sample file. I may be able to convert it for you.
> dave at balderstone dot see, eh?
While you're at it, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it myself. You
can email me at mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (without the capital
letters).
> In article <0001HW.C2078417...@news.individual.net>, Sally
> Thompson <sallyne...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The person concerned is definitely using MS Works, *not* Word Perfect in
>> any
>> form.
>
> Sally, email me a sample file. I may be able to convert it for you.
> dave at balderstone dot see, eh?
>
>
Thanks Dave, but have now solved this particular one *for the moment* through
a third person. I will endeavour to retrain the person sending the files for
the future!
Thanks for all the help.
> <g> I try, I try, really I do. I live in a rural area where the majority of
> people are not exactly at the cutting edge of technology :-)
They're like that in hip and happening places like Brighton as well.
> Sample conversation.
> Me: What Operating System are you on? Them: Works. <Me: Sigh>.
> Me: What browser do you use - I expect it's Internet Explorer?. Them: No, I
> have a Dell (I kid you not, this is a real conversation).
I have that kind of conversation here in Brighton and when I used to
live in London. Your rural friends are not as backward as you think.
> Mostly they are scared to do anything *different*, but as I said I will go
> through a hand-holding exercise in this particular case.
Would it be possible to introduce them to the joys of RTF?
I know it's difficult talking them through the way they can save in
various formats, but RTF as you know of course, can be read by nearly
all word-processors. Not everything Microsoft has done has been bad :)
--
Patrick
Brighton, UK
> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>>> The person concerned is definitely using MS Works, *not* Word Perfect in
>>> any form.
>>
>> Sally, email me a sample file. I may be able to convert it for you.
>> dave at balderstone dot see, eh?
>
> While you're at it, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it myself. You
> can email me at mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (without the capital
> letters).
>
>
Thanks Mike, but as I said to Dave I have solved this particular file through
a third person. If you want to have a go at it out of academic interest, I
will be happy to email you the .wps file.
> If you want to have a go at it out of academic interest, I
> will be happy to email you the .wps file.
Yes, I would like to try just for the sake of it.
> Sally Thompson <sallyne...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> If you want to have a go at it out of academic interest, I
>> will be happy to email you the .wps file.
>
> Yes, I would like to try just for the sake of it.
>
>
You have mail :-)
> You have mail :-)
I'm able to view the text (along with code) with MacLinkPlus but not
convert it. I can also view it, with code, with TextWrangler. What
turned out to do the best, although still not really satisfactory, job
was to open it with MS Word 2001 or later and choose the "Recover Text
from Any File" option. That at least cut down greatly on the code and
made the text more readable. You would still have to do far more
editing than I'm sure you would care to, though.
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:29:31 +0000, Dave Balderstone wrote
> (in article <250220071229314852%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>):
>
> > In article <0001HW.C2078417...@news.individual.net>, Sally
> > Thompson <sallyne...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> The person concerned is definitely using MS Works, *not* Word Perfect in
> >> any
> >> form.
> >
> > Sally, email me a sample file. I may be able to convert it for you.
> > dave at balderstone dot see, eh?
> >
> >
>
> Thanks Dave, but have now solved this particular one *for the moment* through
> a third person. I will endeavour to retrain the person sending the files for
> the future!
>
> Thanks for all the help.
Send me a file anyway, please? I'd like to take a kick at it.
> Sally Thompson <sallyne...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
> > You have mail :-)
>
> I'm able to view the text (along with code) with MacLinkPlus but not
> convert it. I can also view it, with code, with TextWrangler. What
> turned out to do the best, although still not really satisfactory, job
> was to open it with MS Word 2001 or later and choose the "Recover Text
> from Any File" option. That at least cut down greatly on the code and
> made the text more readable. You would still have to do far more
> editing than I'm sure you would care to, though.
Sally, no need to send a sample file. Mike's done everything I would,
assuming he's running at least v15 of MacLinkPlus.
> Sally, no need to send a sample file. Mike's done everything I would,
> assuming he's running at least v15 of MacLinkPlus.
Yes, I'm running v15, which is still the latest version. I wonder if
they're ever going to update it, not that I think that any upgrade would
add support for .wps files.
> I know there has been a previous discussion of this on here, which I found in
> the archives, but has anyone actually succeeded in opening a .wps file on a
> Mac?
There is a Microsoft Works faq with a file import export matrix at
http://www.zimac.de/works/wkscmp.htm that may help pick possible
combinations of MS Works and older programs that can manage to read
their files.
OpenOffice (and its variations like NeoOffice) can not open MS Works
files. This is a frequently asked for facility that will almost
certainly never appear in OpenOffice. MS Works file formats (and there
were several) are all proprietary. Details sufficient for writing
converters have not been released.
Training users of MS Works to save as something less baroque seems the
only viable alternative.
> In article <0001HW.C2051B7B...@news.individual.net>,
> Sally Thompson <sallyne...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I know there has been a previous discussion of this on here, which I found
>> in
>> the archives, but has anyone actually succeeded in opening a .wps file on a
>> Mac?
<snip>
> Training users of MS Works to save as something less baroque seems the
> only viable alternative.
<g> Quite.
> Sally Thompson <sallyne...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> You have mail :-)
>
> I'm able to view the text (along with code) with MacLinkPlus but not
> convert it. I can also view it, with code, with TextWrangler. What
> turned out to do the best, although still not really satisfactory, job
> was to open it with MS Word 2001 or later and choose the "Recover Text
> from Any File" option. That at least cut down greatly on the code and
> made the text more readable. You would still have to do far more
> editing than I'm sure you would care to, though.
>
>
Thanks very much for that Mike. I have emailed you, but just to show my
public appreciation :-)
It's good to have a question answered quite positively, even if it's not the
answer I wanted to hear. Some training for the sender of this file will be
on the cards soon!
> Sally Thompson <sallyne...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
> > You have mail :-)
>
> I'm able to view the text (along with code) with MacLinkPlus but not
> convert it. I can also view it, with code, with TextWrangler.
How about renaming the extension .txt and dumping it on TextWrangler?
Clear off the cruft and at least you _ought_ to have a text document.
I'm sure it's not useful, but it should work. It's how I view Word docs
that clueless people send to me.
leo
> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
> > > The person concerned is definitely using MS Works, *not* Word Perfect in
> > > any form.
> >
> > Sally, email me a sample file. I may be able to convert it for you.
> > dave at balderstone dot see, eh?
>
> While you're at it, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it myself. You
> can email me at mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (without the capital
> letters).
WARNING ALL GIRLS AND LADIES... BE CAREFUL OF SENDING FILES TO
STRANGE MEN...
--
dorayme
> WARNING ALL GIRLS AND LADIES... BE CAREFUL OF SENDING FILES TO
> STRANGE MEN...
I'm really not all that strange, just a bit eccentric.
Well I tried renaming the extension .txt and dumping it into Abiword, without
success, but I will go and try that just in case :-)
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:34:50 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell wrote
> (in article <leo-C153B3.1...@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>):
>
>> In article <1hu3jm6.2nclxz9i75awN%mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
>> mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>>
>>> Sally Thompson <sallyne...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have mail :-)
>>>
>>> I'm able to view the text (along with code) with MacLinkPlus but not
>>> convert it. I can also view it, with code, with TextWrangler.
>>
>> How about renaming the extension .txt and dumping it on TextWrangler?
>> Clear off the cruft and at least you _ought_ to have a text document.
>> I'm sure it's not useful, but it should work. It's how I view Word docs
>> that clueless people send to me.
> Well I tried renaming the extension .txt and dumping it into Abiword, without
> success, but I will go and try that just in case :-)
Leonard, that was an interesting exercise (for some definitions of the word
*interesting*<g>). I was able to open the file in TextWrangler with the .txt
extension but with a lot of crud attached, but equally could open it in
TextWrangler with the original .wps extension (which I hadn't tried). I have
viewed them side by side and they are identical AFAICS. However, I had the
problem (as I had using *Recover Text from Any File* in Word for Mac) that
the paragraphs are jumbled (in the wrong order), which I find strange. I
*believe* that all the text may be there, but it would be a headache to try
to put it together unless you had a printed copy or something to compare it
with.
I think I have now tried more ways to open this file than I would have
thought possible :-)
Thanks anyway.
I took a slightly different tack on this one. I dug up an open source
project which has some libraries which claims to read Works files. The
Works specific modules compiled OK, but had dependencies on so much
other stuff that I ended up hitting a brick wall and gave up.
I got the impression that if someone tried hard enough on a Linux system
it might be doable.
--
Paul Sture
Thanks Paul, but I think I lost the will to live on this one :-) I have
booked myself to go over to the person who sent the file and apply an armlock
- I mean some training for her. She now understands (and believes me I
think) that absolutely no-one uses Works - so last century, you know<g>.
Not to worry. I enjoyed the challenge, and it seems that each time I try
open source stuff I get a little further with it.
--
Paul Sture