Epic Privacy Browser deverloper says Apple privacy stances is "more marketing than truth"

[Arlen Holder]

Here is a direct quote from Epic, whose browser gives privacy in searches
(via an epic privacy search) and through what they call "VPN" (which, for
web browsers, is, in reality, more of an all-tab proxy than it is a VPN).

"*Companies like Apple have launched massive hundred million dollar*
*ad campaigns around privacy (_more marketing than truth_ in the case*
*of the iPhone -- this changes with the upcoming Epic for iOS launch*"

I was installing Epic on a friend's computer yesterday when I ran into the
problem that there was no setting for VPN anymore. After a search, I found
out they changed the VPN to an extension from the "epic store", where this
is a blurb that Epic eventually popped into the browser as I was attempting
to set it up on her computer (mine has the "old" epic with integral
privacy-based search & integral freeware VPN so I don't get this message):

(Everything is verbatim below from a recent Epic installation process.)
==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ====
Please note to provide more flexibility some key Epic Functionality such as
our built-in VPN / encrypted proxy and AdBlock are user-controlled now and
should be added via the Epic Extension store.
<https://epicbrowser.com/webstore2/webstore/>

True, free private search on a large scale is impossible to offer at
present. We have tried for years now to obtain another private search
partnership since Google annulled ours, but it simply isn't possible. It's
cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars (even with the donations from
thousands of you) over the past few years to keep Epic going. The expense
is so great at our scale we couldn't afford to launch our mobile browsers
even though they've been ready and are fantastic. Epic protects hundreds of
thousands of people around the world everyday. Our encrypted proxy/VPN is
powered by hundreds of servers in eight different countries. To keep Epic
an ongoing project, we had to become sustainable via our search options.
Epic will now have two search options: free search by Yahoo & paid private
search via EpicSearch.in.

When you use the default Yahoo-powered search in Epic, you'll get better
search results and support our mission including more frequent releases and
hundreds more servers for our encrypted proxy/VPN. All searches sent to
Yahoo are encrypted for your privacy and security. According to their
requirements, Yahoo search does bypass both our proxy and adblock. Upon ad
click in Yahoo search, the proxy and adblock remain disabled for several
seconds. Their goal is to insure the integrity of their search ad
marketplace. Due to their policies, a few other Yahoo sites including
Techcrunch, Engadget, Autoblog, HuffPo and AOL bypass our adblock. No other
sites bypass our adblock or proxy so Epic works almost entirely as it
always has except in respect to the Yahoo sites.

We believe it is impossible at present to offer honest, free private
search. WeĄve received many requests to support so-called private search
engines such as Startpage, DuckDuckGo and others. To our knowledge there
are no exceptions to Google/Bing mandates to share a user's IP address and
or location both to retrieve search ads and upon search ad click. It is
misleading to claim to be private if you're sharing your users' data with
Google/Bing. Despite multiple requests, they refuse to explain to us how
they work.

EpicSearch sends only your search query to a third-party to retrieve search
results, never any IP or other personal information. It continues to be the
only reasonably true, private, search engine in the world. To sustain it
and keep it ad-free, we will soon charge a nominal $2 a month fee. All Epic
users can use built-in Yahoo search for free.

Thank you for your support of Epic. You've kept us going as well as helped
change the entire tech industry focus. When Epic launched over five years
ago, the vast majority of people in technology laughed at us saying nobody
cares about privacy. Today, no one is laughing. *Companies like Apple have*
*launched massive hundred million dollar ad campaigns around privacy*
*(more marketing than truth in the case of the iPhone* -- this changes with
the upcoming Epic for iOS launch :-). We're thrilled to now be on a
sustainable path to soon serve millions of users everyday. Privacy is
serious and it matters. This is Epic!

As you know (even moreso with this message), we are proud of our mission
and committed to transparency about how Epic works. My email address has
always been public in that respect, one of the few among technology company
founders. Epic is not just my browser. Epic is your browser. It's our
browser. Please share your thoughts and questions with me directly as
always, alok at hiddenreflex dot com.
--
Apple's highly advertised stance on privacy is more marketing than truth.

[Arlen Holder]

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 07:42:55 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> Please note to provide more flexibility some key Epic Functionality such as
> our built-in VPN / encrypted proxy and AdBlock are user-controlled now and
> should be added via the Epic Extension store.

Just to be clear, this message popped up in the new Epic browser after a
few minutes of use (and attempting, in vain, to find the old VPN settings).

I almost always provide a link to the source, but I don't have it; so the
skeptics who brazenly deny facts just because it makes _them_ feel good
will do so ad infinitum (without ever providing any facts, in return).

Yet, I'm pretty sure this message is reliable, and reproducible, although
I'm not about to install the new Epic on my computer since the old one
still works with both the free privacy search engine & free integrated VPN.
--
If you don't believe the Epic pronouncement - take it with a grain of salt.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-02-14 11:42 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> Here is a direct quote from Epic, whose browser gives privacy in searches
> (via an epic privacy search) and through what they call "VPN" (which, for
> web browsers, is, in reality, more of an all-tab proxy than it is a VPN).
>
> "*Companies like Apple have launched massive hundred million dollar*
> *ad campaigns around privacy (_more marketing than truth_ in the case*
> *of the iPhone -- this changes with the upcoming Epic for iOS launch*"
>
> I was installing Epic on a friend's computer yesterday when I ran into the
> problem that there was no setting for VPN anymore. After a search, I found
> out they changed the VPN to an extension from the "epic store", where this
> is a blurb that Epic eventually popped into the browser as I was attempting
> to set it up on her computer (mine has the "old" epic with integral
> privacy-based search & integral freeware VPN so I don't get this message):
>
> (Everything is verbatim below from a recent Epic installation process.)

Weird how you've suddenly lost your ability to take a screenshot, isn't
it, Liar?

> search. We¡ve received many requests to support so-called private search

All that is from an installation process, Liar?

I don't believe you.

I just installed Epic and I got NONE of that.

And doing a google search turns up none of it either.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-02-15 12:01 a.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 07:42:55 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
>
>> Please note to provide more flexibility some key Epic Functionality such as
>> our built-in VPN / encrypted proxy and AdBlock are user-controlled now and
>> should be added via the Epic Extension store.
>
> Just to be clear, this message popped up in the new Epic browser after a
> few minutes of use (and attempting, in vain, to find the old VPN settings).

Riiiiiight.

It just "popped up" of its own accord.

>
> I almost always provide a link to the source, but I don't have it; so the
> skeptics who brazenly deny facts just because it makes _them_ feel good
> will do so ad infinitum (without ever providing any facts, in return).

And you couldn't take a screenshot, either...

>
> Yet, I'm pretty sure this message is reliable, and reproducible, although
> I'm not about to install the new Epic on my computer since the old one
> still works with both the free privacy search engine & free integrated VPN.

Riiiiiiight.

Liar.

[Arlen Holder]

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 08:01:35 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> Just to be clear, this message popped up in the new Epic browser after a
> few minutes of use (and attempting, in vain, to find the old VPN settings).

UPDATE:

This change of the Epic Privacy Browser may have happened at least two
weeks ago, according to this unanswered query on SuperUser forum:
o *How to turn on VPN in Epic Browser*
<https://superuser.com/questions/1521971/how-to-turn-on-vpn-in-epic-browser>

Which I reproduce, verbatim, below, where my recent experience at my
friend's house was exactly as described by this user two weeks ago:

=== === ==== ==== ==== ==== === === === ==== ==== ===
I just upgraded Epic browser to Version 79.0.3946.130 (Official Build)
(64-bit)

The VPN connection icon is gone.

I would expect to see an icon that looks like an extension cord plugging
together to the right of the address bar.

I have search settings and googled for about a 1/2 hour trying to find the
answer.

The epic official forum is not allowing new users to register so I am
posting here.
=== === ==== ==== ==== ==== === === === ==== ==== ===

[Alan Baker]

And how does that support your claims about what you supposedly saw...

...but suddenly couldn't remember how to screenshot, Liar?

[Arlen Holder]

I'm forced to explain to the adults on this newsgroup that I will not
respond to any post with "Liar" or "lies" in it as the response to facts.

Whenever someone claims "*Liar liar pants on fire*" as their only response
to facts is tacitly admitting not only they _hate_ those facts, but also
they can't refute the facts like an adult would.

Saying "liar", is tacit admittance they have no adult response to facts.

[Alan Baker]

I'm forced to note that the Liar always posts screenshots...

...but then suddenly forgets how.

[Arlen Holder]

UPDATE:

I figured out _where_ that detailed message was coming from!
o 80.0.3987.87 (Official Build) (32-bit)
o <chrome-extension://dfgnlhhjbdpobojgcbpnofdbidljflhb/newtab.html>

Gory details have already been posted the past couple of days to the
_adult_ OS newsgroups, e.g., microsoft.public.windowsxp.general &
alt.comp.os.windows-10.
--
Two types of people are on Usenet: those who add value; & those who can't.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-02-17 9:11 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> UPDATE:
>
> I figured out _where_ that detailed message was coming from!
> o 80.0.3987.87 (Official Build) (32-bit)
> o <chrome-extension://dfgnlhhjbdpobojgcbpnofdbidljflhb/newtab.html>

Congratulations. For a self-described, tech-savvy "adult", it took you
quite a while...

...to post one persons OPINION, Liar.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 05:11:08 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> Gory details have already been posted the past couple of days to the
> _adult_ OS newsgroups, e.g., microsoft.public.windowsxp.general &
> alt.comp.os.windows-10.

UPDATE:

The Epic developer would know Apple MARKETING on privacy is sheer bullshit
because Epic _delivers_ privacy-based web browsing, not bullshit marketing
of the mere _illusion_ of privacy that Apple so extremely loudly
incessantly touts (but doesn't even deliver).

Apple users are like a child told by his mother that the monster can't get
out of the closet when she softly closes the closet door at night.
o Apple users are content to just _feel_ safe (not actually _be_ safe).

BTW, I accidentally omitted the pointer to the gory technical details:
o Save your old freeware Epic privacy browser Windows installer as the new ones changed how they did VPN
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/hgkA9M55ofU>

Unlike apologists, I strive for near 100% credibility on facts.
o The apologists can never reproduce any facts for themselves!

Notice only on the Apple ngs do apologists (a) brazenly deny all facts
(simply because they don't like the facts), & (b) play silly childish games
such as calling all facts they don't like "*Liar liar pants on fire*".

Claiming "liar" is tacit admittance apologists have no adult response to fact.
--
Apologists always prove to be fantastically _immune_ to even simple facts.

[nospam]

In article <r2guro$ka4$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder

<arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:

> I strive for near 100% credibility on facts.

everyone strives for 100% credibility.

you have not come anywhere close to that.

your credibility is the very opposite, near 0%, close enough to 0 that
it can be considered to be 0.

reading 0.001% backwards is %100.0. maybe that's how you arrived at
your results.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-02-18 7:11 a.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 05:11:08 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
>
>> Gory details have already been posted the past couple of days to the
>> _adult_ OS newsgroups, e.g., microsoft.public.windowsxp.general &
>> alt.comp.os.windows-10.
>
> UPDATE:
>
> The Epic developer would know Apple MARKETING on privacy is sheer bullshit
> because Epic _delivers_ privacy-based web browsing, not bullshit marketing
> of the mere _illusion_ of privacy that Apple so extremely loudly
> incessantly touts (but doesn't even deliver).

Revelations (for you anyway):

Someone creating a competing privacy product MIGHT have a bias to
denigrate Apple.

That page you linked to is essentially Epic's MARKETING.

>
> Apple users are like a child told by his mother that the monster can't get
> out of the closet when she softly closes the closet door at night.
> o Apple users are content to just _feel_ safe (not actually _be_ safe).

LOL!

>
> BTW, I accidentally omitted the pointer to the gory technical details:
> o Save your old freeware Epic privacy browser Windows installer as the new ones changed how they did VPN
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/hgkA9M55ofU>
>
> Unlike apologists, I strive for near 100% credibility on facts.
> o The apologists can never reproduce any facts for themselves!

You mean like when it was explained to you that a tech note that popped
up when you were activating Siri Dictation on iOS couldn't be "Apple's
privacy policy"...

...because it contained language that suggested you go else where to
review "Apple's Privacy Policy"...

...but you kept right on insisting that the tech note was it?

:-)

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:03:27 -0500, nospam wrote:

> your credibility is the very opposite, near 0%, close enough to 0 that
> it can be considered to be 0.

Apologists never lose a chance to prove their brain is that of a child.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 08:43:41 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:

> Revelations (for you anyway):

Revelation for you apologists, Alan Baker.

o Epic Privacy Browser developer says Apple privacy stances is
"more marketing than truth"

The fact you don't facts doesn't change that they are _still_ facts.

--
Apologists hate facts because MARKETING doesn't feed them those facts.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-02-18 6:17 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 08:43:41 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
>
>> Revelations (for you anyway):
>
> Revelation for you apologists, Alan Baker.
>
> o Epic Privacy Browser developer says Apple privacy stances is
> "more marketing than truth"
>
> The fact you don't facts doesn't change that they are _still_ facts.

He said that... ...that's true.

But it was an ASSERTION without any supporting evidence, Liar.

And I guess it's not at all surprising that you snipped this exchange...

>>> Unlike apologists, I strive for near 100% credibility on facts.
>>> o The apologists can never reproduce any facts for themselves!
>>
>> You mean like when it was explained to you that a tech note that popped up when you were activating Siri Dictation on iOS couldn't be "Apple's privacy policy"...
>>
>> ...because it contained language that suggested you go else where to review "Apple's Privacy Policy"...
>>
>> ...but you kept right on insisting that the tech note was it?

Well, Liar: is that what happened?

Yes or no.

[Arlen Holder]

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 02:17:00 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> The fact you don't facts doesn't change that they are _still_ facts.

FACTS:

Apologists always brazenly deny facts simply because they don't like them!
o Facts are completely contrary to Apologists' underlying belief systems.

Hence, Apologists like Alan Baker call all facts "lies", by "Liars"...
o And yet, despite the fact Apologists hate facts - they're still facts!

I tested this again today on a victim computer where the URL that reliably
reproduces the message even after you've closed it, is thus:
<view-source:chrome-extension://dfgnlhhjbdpobojgcbpnofdbidljflhb/newtab.html>

In the "old" Epic, you get the source _without_ the new message.
o In the "new" Epic, you get the source _with_ the scripted message.

Below is, verbatim, the result of that "view source", where the message
stating *Apple's privacy stance is "more marketing than truth"*, is clearly
reproducibly hard-coded embedded in that resulting source...

Apologists always brazenly deny facts simply because they don't like them!

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to offer at present. We have tried for years now to obtain another private
search partnership
since Google annulled ours, but it simply isn・t possible. It・s cost us
hundreds of thousands of dollars (even with the donations from thousands of
you)
over the past few years to keep Epic going. The expense is so great at our
scale we couldn・t afford to launch our mobile browsers even though they've
been
ready and are fantastic. Epic protects hundreds of thousands of people
around the world everyday. Our encrypted proxy/VPN is powered by hundreds
of
servers in eight different countries. To keep Epic an ongoing project, we
had to become sustainable via our search options. Epic will now have two
search
options: free search by Yahoo & paid private search via EpicSearch.in.

<br/><br/>

When you use the default Yahoo-powered search in Epic, you・ll get better
search results and support our mission including more frequent releases and
hundreds more servers
for our encrypted proxy/VPN. All searches sent to Yahoo are encrypted for
your privacy and security. According to their requirements, Yahoo search
does bypass both our proxy and adblock. Upon ad click in Yahoo search,
the proxy and adblock remain disabled for several seconds. Their goal is
to insure the integrity of their search ad marketplace. Due to their
policies, a few
other Yahoo sites including Techcrunch, Engadget, Autoblog, HuffPo and AOL
bypass our adblock. No other sites bypass our adblock or proxy so
Epic works almost entirely as it always has except in respect to the Yahoo
sites.

<br/><br/>

We believe it is impossible at present to offer honest, free private

search. We．ve received many requests to support so-called private search

engines such as
Startpage, DuckDuckGo and others. To our knowledge there are no exceptions
to
Google/Bing mandates to share a user・s IP address and or location both to
retrieve search ads and upon search ad click. It is misleading to claim to
be private if
you・re sharing your users・ data with Google/Bing. Despite multiple
requests, they refuse to explain to us how they work.

<br/><br/>

EpicSearch sends only your search query to a third-party to retrieve
search results, never any IP or other personal information. It continues to
be the
only reasonably true, private, search engine in the world. To sustain it
and keep it ad-free, we will soon charge a nominal $2 a month fee. All Epic
users
can use built-in Yahoo search for free.

<br/><br/>

Thank you for your support of Epic. You・ve kept us going as well as helped
change the entire tech industry focus. When Epic launched over five years
ago, the
vast majority of people in technology laughed at us saying nobody cares

about privacy. Today, no one is laughing. Companies like Apple have
launched
massive hundred million dollar ad campaigns around privacy (more marketing
than truth in the case of the iPhone -- this changes with the upcoming

Epic for iOS launch :-). We・re thrilled to now be on a sustainable path to
soon serve millions of users everyday. Privacy is serious and it matters.
This is Epic!

<br/><br/>

As you know (even moreso with this message), we are proud of our
mission and committed to
transparency about how Epic works. My email address has
always been public in that respect,
one of the few among technology company founders. Epic is not just my
browser. Epic is your browser. It's our browser. Please share your
thoughts and questions with me directly as always, alok at
hiddenreflex dot com.

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[Alan Baker]

On 2020-02-19 3:43 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 02:17:00 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
>
>> The fact you don't facts doesn't change that they are _still_ facts.
>
> FACTS:
>
> Apologists always brazenly deny facts simply because they don't like them!
> o Facts are completely contrary to Apologists' underlying belief systems.

That is an assertion, not a fact, Liar.

>
> Hence, Apologists like Alan Baker call all facts "lies", by "Liars"...
> o And yet, despite the fact Apologists hate facts - they're still facts!

That is an assertion, not a fact, Liar.

>
> I tested this again today on a victim computer where the URL that reliably
> reproduces the message even after you've closed it, is thus:
> <view-source:chrome-extension://dfgnlhhjbdpobojgcbpnofdbidljflhb/newtab.html>

Since no one has claimed the message doesn't appear, Liar, why is this
significant?

>
> In the "old" Epic, you get the source _without_ the new message.
> o In the "new" Epic, you get the source _with_ the scripted message.
>
> Below is, verbatim, the result of that "view source", where the message
> stating *Apple's privacy stance is "more marketing than truth"*, is clearly
> reproducibly hard-coded embedded in that resulting source...

And the fact that that text exists doesn't make that text into a fact.

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