Flowerpot iMac
B ShuttsIL
I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
______________
Cheers,
Bob S
Joel Barnett
"B ShuttsIL" <bshu...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010221221144...@ng-md1.aol.com...
Is there an option to have a strobe light inside the case ?
_____________
> Cheers,
> Bob S
jbarntt
John C. Randolph
B ShuttsIL wrote:
>
> http://www.apple.com/imac/
>
> I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
I like it.
I'm looking forward to Dvorak going ape-shit over this latest threat to
his masculinity.
-jcr
Trevor Zion Bauknight
bshu...@aol.com (B ShuttsIL) wrote:
> http://www.apple.com/imac/
>
> I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
Oh, it's alright. I wouldn't buy one, but I bet some chyx do. It sorta
pays homage to the great tradition of people painting their beige Macs
so they wouldn't put them in the mind of PCs.
Anyway, I used to do some plastics testing for a kayak company which did
some blending and isolating like that, and it isn't easy. Probably took
quite a bit of work to get it right. I wouldn't be surprised to see
Apple collecting royalties on this, along with lots of other stuff they
patent (assuming they patented it...I'd be surprised if they didn't.)
Trev
--
"I think Trevor is an idot. Just the kind of robot President CLITton likes.
Supid people!" - Husker Kev
ADR
> Is there an option to have a strobe light inside the case ?
> _____________
Does it come with iGanja?
B ShuttsIL
pays homage to the great tradition of people painting their beige Macs so they
wouldn't put them in the mind of PCs. >>
Postscript to my original post. 16 year old daughter saw it and told me
that's the model she wants me to buy her. I guess we have identified a market
after all.
______________
Cheers,
Bob S
Gregory L. Hansen
Trevor Zion Bauknight <tr...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>In article <20010221221144...@ng-md1.aol.com>,
> bshu...@aol.com (B ShuttsIL) wrote:
>
>> http://www.apple.com/imac/
>>
>> I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
>
>Oh, it's alright. I wouldn't buy one, but I bet some chyx do. It sorta
>pays homage to the great tradition of people painting their beige Macs
>so they wouldn't put them in the mind of PCs.
>
>Anyway, I used to do some plastics testing for a kayak company which did
>some blending and isolating like that, and it isn't easy. Probably took
>quite a bit of work to get it right. I wouldn't be surprised to see
>Apple collecting royalties on this, along with lots of other stuff they
>patent (assuming they patented it...I'd be surprised if they didn't.)
I think it's not such a bad idea, but too busy. It has too many small
"flowers" crowded in. I might have liked a case with a larger, sparser
two-tone or three-tone design. Like something resembling a Julia set, or
an unambitious tie-dye.
--
"'No user-serviceable parts inside.' I'll be the judge of that!"
Edwin
The new colors don't look that bad to me, although I'd choose Indigo for
myself.
What I think is "stupid" is that the iMac comes with a paltry 64 MB of RAM,
and that it costs $100 to add 64 MB more!!! I recently bought a 128 MB RAM
module for my Gateway for only $57 (with tax and free S&H).
Edwin
Rob Barris
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "B ShuttsIL" <bshu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20010221221144...@ng-md1.aol.com...
> > http://www.apple.com/imac/
> >
> > I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
>
> The new colors don't look that bad to me, although I'd choose Indigo for
> myself.
>
> What I think is "stupid" is that the iMac comes with a paltry 64 MB of
> RAM,
> and that it costs $100 to add 64 MB more!!!
Translation, buying RAM from Apple is expensive.
Not exactly newsworthy.
It's such a pain too, because there are no third parties that will ever
sell you any kind of Mac memory upgrade for less than that prices <g>
> I recently bought a 128 MB RAM
> module for my Gateway for only $57 (with tax and free S&H).
and the name of the memory vendor was ?
Rob
M. Clark
> http://www.apple.com/imac/
>
> I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
The cases are a minor issue and I'd get flower power just as a
conversation piece.
The bottom line for me is if I had bought an iMac before these new
machines were announced my wallet would have taken a hit because of the
better specs for the same dollars.
M. Clark
> ______________
> Cheers,
> Bob S
Edwin
"Rob Barris" <rba...@quicksilver.com> wrote in message
news:rbarris-E89FFA...@news.irvn1.occa.home.com...
> In article <973gko$min53$1...@ID-56786.news.dfncis.de>, "Edwin"
> <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > "B ShuttsIL" <bshu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20010221221144...@ng-md1.aol.com...
> > > http://www.apple.com/imac/
> > >
> > > I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
> >
> > The new colors don't look that bad to me, although I'd choose Indigo for
> > myself.
> >
> > What I think is "stupid" is that the iMac comes with a paltry 64 MB of
> > RAM,
> > and that it costs $100 to add 64 MB more!!!
>
> Translation, buying RAM from Apple is expensive.
More like it's a total rip-off.
> Not exactly newsworthy.
Sure it is. Price gouging by Apple should be trumpted wherever and
whenever possible.
> It's such a pain too, because there are no third parties that will ever
> sell you any kind of Mac memory upgrade for less than that prices <g>
>
> > I recently bought a 128 MB RAM
> > module for my Gateway for only $57 (with tax and free S&H).
>
> and the name of the memory vendor was ?
Crucial.com (a division of Micron).
> Rob
Rob Barris
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Rob Barris" <rba...@quicksilver.com> wrote in message
> news:rbarris-E89FFA...@news.irvn1.occa.home.com...
> > In article <973gko$min53$1...@ID-56786.news.dfncis.de>, "Edwin"
> > <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "B ShuttsIL" <bshu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20010221221144...@ng-md1.aol.com...
> > > > http://www.apple.com/imac/
> > > >
> > > > I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
> > >
> > > The new colors don't look that bad to me, although I'd choose Indigo
> > > for
> > > myself.
> > >
> > > What I think is "stupid" is that the iMac comes with a paltry 64 MB
> > > of
> > > RAM,
> > > and that it costs $100 to add 64 MB more!!!
> >
> > Translation, buying RAM from Apple is expensive.
>
> More like it's a total rip-off.
>
> > Not exactly newsworthy.
>
> Sure it is. Price gouging by Apple should be trumpted wherever and
> whenever possible.
Fine, but to go on and compare the preinstall (bundled) price with
what you can get by way of a mail order aftermarket upgrade... well I
guess you can do that if you want, but will any of your readers really
give it any credibility?
You're reaching, and it shows. The fact that you didn't even mention
the "iMac memory upgrades" right on the damn crucial.com home page (for
significantly less than Apple pricing) is pretty funny.
Game over
Edwin
The people buy preinstalled RAM from PC makers without getting gouged will
find me credible. It's interesting that you can acknowledge RAM from Apple
is "expensive" and yet attack me for saying so, in the same breath.
Why didn't Apple just install one 128 MB to began with? If Crucial can make
money selling me a quantity of one 128 MB module for $53, it miust cost much
less than that.
> You're reaching, and it shows.
Not at all. This issue is much more important for iMac buyers, as it isn't
as easy for them to install RAM modules as it is in a PC.
> The fact that you didn't even mention
> the "iMac memory upgrades" right on the damn crucial.com home page (for
> significantly less than Apple pricing) is pretty funny.
Yes, it is pretty funny that you can get proof Apple is overcharging you,
and come away defending Apple.
> Game over
You lose.
Rick
>
> "Rob Barris" <rba...@quicksilver.com> wrote in message
> news:rbarris-E89FFA...@news.irvn1.occa.home.com...
> > In article <973gko$min53$1...@ID-56786.news.dfncis.de>, "Edwin"
> > <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "B ShuttsIL" <bshu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20010221221144...@ng-md1.aol.com...
> > > > http://www.apple.com/imac/
> > > >
> > > > I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
> > >
> > > The new colors don't look that bad to me, although I'd choose Indigo for
> > > myself.
> > >
> > > What I think is "stupid" is that the iMac comes with a paltry 64 MB of
> > > RAM,
> > > and that it costs $100 to add 64 MB more!!!
> >
> > Translation, buying RAM from Apple is expensive.
>
> More like it's a total rip-off.
>
> > Not exactly newsworthy.
>
> Sure it is. Price gouging by Apple should be trumpted wherever and
> whenever possible.
>
Then trumpet price gouging by IBM, Compaq and all the others.
> > It's such a pain too, because there are no third parties that will ever
> > sell you any kind of Mac memory upgrade for less than that prices <g>
> >
> > > I recently bought a 128 MB RAM
> > > module for my Gateway for only $57 (with tax and free S&H).
> >
> > and the name of the memory vendor was ?
>
> Crucial.com (a division of Micron).
>
Well, well... there's a well known computer maker brand name....
--
Rick
Rob Barris
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Bottom line, I can get the same low pricing on that RAM for a Mac
upgrade if I choose. This is the very simple point you are dancing
around. There are choices available; pay more and have it preinstalled,
or pay less and do it yourself.
What is the problem? It sounds to me like you recognize that the
pricing issue is a non-issue, and you would now like to focus on
difficulty of installation (admittedly very true for early iMac, but a
no brainer on any recent models or G4's, not to mention laptops).
I figure, if Elam can figure out how to install RAM in an iMac, it
can't be that bad.
Rob
Edwin
"Rick" <nom...@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:3A958AA9...@nomail.com...
> Edwin wrote:
> >
> > "Rob Barris" <rba...@quicksilver.com> wrote in message
> > news:rbarris-E89FFA...@news.irvn1.occa.home.com...
> > > In article <973gko$min53$1...@ID-56786.news.dfncis.de>, "Edwin"
> > > <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "B ShuttsIL" <bshu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:20010221221144...@ng-md1.aol.com...
> > > > > http://www.apple.com/imac/
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
> > > >
> > > > The new colors don't look that bad to me, although I'd choose Indigo
for
> > > > myself.
> > > >
> > > > What I think is "stupid" is that the iMac comes with a paltry 64 MB
of
> > > > RAM,
> > > > and that it costs $100 to add 64 MB more!!!
> > >
> > > Translation, buying RAM from Apple is expensive.
> >
> > More like it's a total rip-off.
> >
> > > Not exactly newsworthy.
> >
> > Sure it is. Price gouging by Apple should be trumpted wherever and
> > whenever possible.
> >
>
> Then trumpet price gouging by IBM, Compaq and all the others.
Did you check their prices, or is this just another of your knee-jerk
reactions? How much to add in 64 MB of RAM for the ones you mentioned,
BONKster?
> > > It's such a pain too, because there are no third parties that will
ever
> > > sell you any kind of Mac memory upgrade for less than that prices <g>
> > >
> > > > I recently bought a 128 MB RAM
> > > > module for my Gateway for only $57 (with tax and free S&H).
> > >
> > > and the name of the memory vendor was ?
> >
> > Crucial.com (a division of Micron).
> >
>
> Well, well... there's a well known computer maker brand name....
Yes, Micron is one of the best known computer brand names. You simply must
get out of your cave more often.
Edwin
Edwin
It doesn't cost as much to have it preinstalled in a PC as it does in a Mac.
Many PCs come with 128 MB or more of RAM, yet are cheaper than comparable
Macs.
> What is the problem?
The problem is the fact RAM is dirt cheap, but that isn't reflected in
Apple's pricing.
>It sounds to me like you recognize that the
> pricing issue is a non-issue,
You're projecting.
>and you would now like to focus on
> difficulty of installation (admittedly very true for early iMac, but a
> no brainer on any recent models or G4's, not to mention laptops).
No, I'm adding another factor into the problem. PC makers will install
extra RAM without gouging you.
> I figure, if Elam can figure out how to install RAM in an iMac, it
> can't be that bad.
How do I get Apple to leave out the RAM so I can buy all of it from a
cheaper source?
> Rob
Rick
They are not on the same brand name level as IBM, Compaq... or Apple.
--
Rick
Josiah Fizer
IBM and Compaq use Micron memory in there high end servers. Please try
and know what your talking about. Micron is one of the most well known
and respected memory manufacturer in the industry.
Rick
... but are one of the most well know computer manufacturerers in the
country? Are they on the same computer manufacturing brand name level as
IBM, Compaq or Apple. Look above. The comment referred to computer
manufacturers.
--
Rick
Tom Elam
> Bottom line, I can get the same low pricing on that RAM for a Mac
> upgrade if I choose. This is the very simple point you are dancing
> around. There are choices available; pay more and have it preinstalled,
> or pay less and do it yourself.
>
> What is the problem? It sounds to me like you recognize that the
> pricing issue is a non-issue, and you would now like to focus on
> difficulty of installation (admittedly very true for early iMac, but a
> no brainer on any recent models or G4's, not to mention laptops).
>
> I figure, if Elam can figure out how to install RAM in an iMac, it
> can't be that bad.
I hate to disappoint, but I was so worried about the Apple warranty I
called MacWarehouse and had them walk me through it so that I would not
violate some vague Cupertino no-no. Of course, if I had just read the
tiny manual that came with the thing it shows you how to open the door
and put in the module. It's not quite as easy as my Compaq laptop which
has the ram right under the keyboard, but it's pretty simple to change
out iMac ram!
As for pricing, right now Mac ram is as cheap as any other from 3rd
party vendors. You can get 512 megs of name brand PC 100 or PC 133 for
under well $200 at the moment. Apple wants an astounding $200 to add a
128 meg chip to an iMac. That fills up both slots - why not at least
put in 1x256 megs and leave a slot open? At any rate, $200 for 128 megs
is a major ripoff - that's a $50-60 part anywhere else these days.
--
Tom Elam
Elvis2001
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > Well, well... there's a well known computer maker brand name....
>
> Yes, Micron is one of the best known computer brand names. You simply
> must
> get out of your cave more often.
Are they are also known for their high-quality memory products. Jeez -
I hate it when people on this NG confirm the "Macs are for dumbasses"
myth.
JW
Elvis2001
wrote:
>
> They are not on the same brand name level as IBM, Compaq... or Apple.
M O R O N -- they make the best memory products you can buy. HOLT SHIT,
you I D I O T.
Elvis2001
> Not at all. This issue is much more important for iMac buyers, as it
> isn't
> as easy for them to install RAM modules as it is in a PC.
Not true. Slot loading iMacs are a breeze to install memory.
Peter Ammon
>
>
> I hate to disappoint, but I was so worried about the Apple warranty I
> called MacWarehouse and had them walk me through it so that I would not
> violate some vague Cupertino no-no. Of course, if I had just read the
> tiny manual that came with the thing it shows you how to open the door
> and put in the module. It's not quite as easy as my Compaq laptop which
> has the ram right under the keyboard, but it's pretty simple to change
> out iMac ram!
Be glad....I had the pleasure of adding some RAM to a first edition
iMac, and doing that was a chore. It required removing a plastic shield
that took so much force to dislodge, I was afraid it would break. Then
I had to disconnect a bunch of cables and slide out the motherboard and
a lot of other nonsense.
My B&W G3 is a cinch, of course.
-Peter
[snip]
Elvis2001
wrote:
>
> ... but are one of the most well know computer manufacturerers in the
> country? Are they on the same computer manufacturing brand name level as
> IBM, Compaq or Apple. Look above. The comment referred to computer
> manufacturers.
Rick - give it up. Micron *is* the best known memory manufacturer out
there.
Gav
>> > > Crucial.com (a division of Micron).
>> > >
>> >
>> > Well, well... there's a well known computer maker brand name....
>>
>> Yes, Micron is one of the best known computer brand names. You simply must
>> get out of your cave more often.
>>
>> Edwin
>
>
>They are not on the same brand name level as IBM, Compaq... or Apple.
Do you ever get tired of putting your foot in your mouth? I hope
not - your consistently stupid posts are a source of great amusement
to me.
Micron are pretty much the #1 name in memory!
And since when did IBM, Compaq and Apple become brand names for
memory?
Gav
Edwin
"Elvis2001" <elvi...@graceland.com> wrote in message
news:elvis2001-0BC1E...@news-server.nyc.rr.com...
It's a myth? ;-)
Edwin
> JW
Edwin
"Elvis2001" <elvi...@graceland.com> wrote in message
news:elvis2001-0BC1E...@news-server.nyc.rr.com...
> <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > > Well, well... there's a well known computer maker brand name....
> >
> > Yes, Micron is one of the best known computer brand names. You simply
> > must
> > get out of your cave more often.
>
>
> Are they are also known for their high-quality memory products.
Absolutely. Micron was a memory maker before it became a PC maker.
> Jeez -
> I hate it when people on this NG confirm the "Macs are for dumbasses"
> myth.
It's a myth? ;-)
Edwin
> JW
Ben Reiter
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > Jeez -
> > I hate it when people on this NG confirm the "Macs are for dumbasses"
> > myth.
>
> It's a myth? ;-)
Well, it looks like you just confirmed the "PCs are for smartasses" myth
:)
::duck/run::
\Ben
--
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those who think alike than those who think differently" - Nietzche
"Think Different" - Apple
My address above has no spamproofing - spam me, and I'll get your throwaway
account cancelled, guaranteed.
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No, EdWINs. It's the holy grail of all eight (and counting)
of your personnas. It's the one thing outside of your
collective love of lies that you all have in common.
--
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remained calm but wary." -- Gary Larson
Edwin
Hmm... I take it things have changed since the first iMac. ;-)
For my Gateway, I take out two screws and slide out the side panel. How do
you do it in the new iMacs?
Edwin
Jim Naylor
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
With style, you nit.
Ben Reiter
Take a quarter or other change out of your pocket. Insert it into the
slot on the underside of the iMac (yes, I'm serious - I'm going
somewhere with this). Use the change (or screwdriver or whatever) to
turn the disc, unlocking the panel on the underside. You've now got
free access to the DIMM slots.
Compare this with the first-rev iMacs (before the DVs), where you had to
remove a screw on the bottom, put the iMac face-down, pull off the
bottom shell, unscrew the mainboard, unplug about three cables, pull the
mainboard out, and /then/ you've got access to the SO-DIMM slots.
Peter Bonte
wijsheid:
>
> "B ShuttsIL" <bshu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20010221221144...@ng-md1.aol.com...
>> http://www.apple.com/imac/
>>
>> I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
>> _
>
> Is there an option to have a strobe light inside the case ?
it'l make a great lavalamp :o)
loooove those 70's
--
Peter
Edward
> Hmm... I take it things have changed since the first iMac. ;-)
>
> For my Gateway, I take out two screws and slide out the side panel. How do
> you do it in the new iMacs?
>
> Edwin
Well first, you take out two screws and slide out the side panel of a nearby
Gateway... then you get the RAM out of that machine, and put it in the
almighty iMac! :D
Edward
Andy Bates
<mcl...@htg.net> wrote:
> The bottom line for me is if I had bought an iMac before these new
> machines were announced my wallet would have taken a hit because of the
> better specs for the same dollars.
Wow! A computer manufacturer announces a new machine that has better
specs for the same price! Quick, someone call Ripley!
WickedDyno
<j...@idiom.com> wrote:
> B ShuttsIL wrote:
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/imac/
> >
> > I'm an Apple user since 1990, but this is really stupid.
>
> I like it.
>
> I'm looking forward to Dvorak going ape-shit over this latest threat to
> his masculinity.
>
> -jcr
I hadn't thought of that. I'm sure his blookage will be mightily
masculine, morally macho and very, very amusing.
--
| Andrew Glasgow <amg39(at)cornell.edu> |
| SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical |
| reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat |
| to your SCSI chain now and then. -- John Woods |
Gav
Apple innovate yet again!
How long before the PC makers copy this amazing new strategy?
Gav
Edwin
"Edward" <edo...@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:edodge-DAABDB....@news.verizon.net...
I have actually contemplated doing just that, believe it or not.
Edwin