More Obama "gifts": Free WiFi for everyone, specially the poor

[Ramon F Herrera]

Tech, telecom giants take sides as FCC proposes large public WiFi
networks

By Cecilia Kang, Published: February 3
Washington Post

"The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the
nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them
to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone bill
every month.

"The proposal from the Federal Communications Commission has rattled
the $178 billion wireless industry, which has launched a fierce
lobbying effort to persuade policymakers to reconsider the idea,
analysts say. That has been countered by an equally intense campaign
from Google, Microsoft and other tech giants who say a free-for-all
WiFi service would spark an explosion of innovations and devices that
would benefit most Americans, especially the poor.

"The airwaves that FCC officials want to hand over to the public would
be much more powerful than existing WiFi networks that have become
common in households. They could penetrate thick concrete walls and
travel over [...]"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/tech-telecom-giants-take-sides-as-fcc-proposes-large-public-wifi-networks/2013/02/03/eb27d3e0-698b-11e2-ada3-d86a4806d5ee_story.html

http://tinyurl.com/aaa9e6g

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Feb 4, 10:13 am, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> Tech, telecom giants take sides as FCC proposes large public WiFi
> networks
>
> By Cecilia Kang, Published: February 3
> Washington Post
>
> "The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the
> nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them
> to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone bill
> every month.
>
> "The proposal from the Federal Communications Commission has rattled
> the $178 billion wireless industry, which has launched a fierce
> lobbying effort to persuade policymakers to reconsider the idea,
> analysts say. That has been countered by an equally intense campaign
> from Google, Microsoft and other tech giants who say a free-for-all
> WiFi service would spark an explosion of innovations and devices that
> would benefit most Americans, especially the poor.
>
> "The airwaves that FCC officials want to hand over to the public would
> be much more powerful than existing WiFi networks that have become
> common in households. They could penetrate thick concrete walls and
> travel over [...]"
>

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/tech-telecom-giants...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aaa9e6g
>
> -Ramon


Reminder:

Pretty much ALL folks in high tech are Liberals:

- Bill Gates
- Steve Ballmer
- Steve Jobs (now, his widow)
- Steve Wozniak
- Jeff Bezos
- The Google Boys
- Mark Zuckerberg
- etc.

-Ramon

[Ezekiel]

"Ramon F Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:b386f7a9-7cfb-47bc...@h17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

You'll never be able to cover 100% of the country with WIFI which is
inherently short range anyway.

So he'll be able to cover the inner-cities and major metropolitan areas
which is where the majority of his voting constituency lives anyway. And the
people living in the rural areas can help pay for this program. It's a smart
political move.

--
"Astounding! A tailwind reduces lift?!?!?! How in hell does a kite fly
then?"

Dumb Willy - With yet another clueless "me-too" about basic aerodynamics.
<pan.2007.01.23....@kubuntulinux110.eu>

[chrisv]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:

>Pretty much ALL folks in high tech are Liberals:
>
> - Bill Gates
> - Steve Ballmer
> - Steve Jobs (now, his widow)
> - Steve Wozniak
> - Jeff Bezos
> - The Google Boys
> - Mark Zuckerberg
> - etc.

Except when it comes to hording their own $billions, of course.

--
'Down here in the South USA we used to call that "nigger-rigged" or
"Afro-engineered".' - DumFSck

[MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE]

"Ramon F. Herrera" \

> On Feb 4, 10:13�am, Ramon F Herrera

>> Tech, telecom giants take sides as FCC proposes large public WiFi
>> networks
>>
>> By Cecilia Kang, Published: February 3
>> Washington Post
>>
>> "The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the
>> nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them
>> to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone bill
>> every month.
>>
>> "The proposal from the Federal Communications Commission has rattled
>> the $178 billion wireless industry, which has launched a fierce
>> lobbying effort to persuade policymakers to reconsider the idea,
>> analysts say. That has been countered by an equally intense campaign
>> from Google, Microsoft and other tech giants who say a free-for-all
>> WiFi service would spark an explosion of innovations and devices that
>> would benefit most Americans, especially the poor.
>>
>> "The airwaves that FCC officials want to hand over to the public would
>> be much more powerful than existing WiFi networks that have become
>> common in households. They could penetrate thick concrete walls and
>> travel over [...]"
>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/tech-telecom-giants...
>> http://tinyurl.com/aaa9e6g
>

> Reminder:
>
> Pretty much ALL folks in high tech are Liberals:
>
> - Bill Gates
> - Steve Ballmer
> - Steve Jobs (now, his widow)
> - Steve Wozniak
> - Jeff Bezos
> - The Google Boys
> - Mark Zuckerberg
> - etc.

If LIBs are so SMART,
why won't they stop SPAM?
why won't they stop CyberCrime?
why won't they stop Computer Viruses?
why won't they oppose Internet Censorship?

http://theblacksphere.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Obama-shooting-
Flowers.jpg


A: It's not in their interest to do so,
because they provide that service
to those who sponsor them,
those who 'made' them -- especially Steve Jobs.


Who could imagine so many Clowns without a sense of humor?


LIBs reward the Guilty,
they Punish the Innocent,
they Champion the mediocre, the Unworthy, the DEPRAVED
on the basis of their Depravity.

They do this so that they can
pit Man against other men until we exist no more.



Nationwide WiFI is the FIRST policy of OBAMA's that MANFRED
can legitimately support, but like ALL OBAMA's Policies,
they are half-baked in a way that is certain to foment
the Statist Agenda and the Criminal.

Such consequence is NOT inconsequential.


You want to see the modern day equivalent of Dresden?

Watch what happens with Confiker (and all the other bots)
activate once the commoditized market drives consumers to
unprotected devices with known exploitable weaknesses.


LIBs. What FARCE their FACEBOOK?
---
ZUCKERBERG: The modern day Francisco d'Anconia....


http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/07/26/fireworks_cnbcs_bartiromo_vs_
ba
rney_frank_on_banks.html
CNBC: ATLAS SHRUGGED's PREQUEL, BARNEY FRANK VS MARIA BARTIROMO



http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/31/how-did-atlas-shrugged-and-ayn-
rand-predict-america-spinning-out-control/
How Did Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'
Predict an America Spinning Out of Control?


How could she have painted villains who seem ripped from today�s
headlines?

There�s Wesley Mouch, who in the face of failed government programs
screams like Rep. Barney Frank (D) of Massachusetts for wider powers.

There�s Eugene Lawson, "the banker with a heart," who like former Treasury
Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is ever
ready with a bailout.

There�s Mr. Thompson, who like President Obama seeks to rally the country
behind pious platitudes.

There�s Orren Boyle, who like President Bush says that we must abandon
free-market principles to save the free market.



HOW DID ALL THIS HAPPEN?
A: GOOD MEN DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
BECOMING ACCOMPLICES TO AN INTRINSIC EVIL.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Feb 4, 10:37 am, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> >Pretty much ALL folks in high tech are Liberals:
>
> > - Bill Gates
> > - Steve Ballmer
> > - Steve Jobs (now, his widow)
> > - Steve Wozniak
> > - Jeff Bezos
> > - The Google Boys
> > - Mark Zuckerberg
> > - etc.
>

> Except when it comes to hoarding their own $billions, of course.
>

What you call "hoarding" is otherwise known as "owning".

Do you call this "hoarding"??

Steve Jobs' Widow:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203458604577261342745473460.html

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/laurene-powell-jobs-widow-launches-dream-act-website-86553.html

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/01/22/laurene-powell-jobs-promoting-us-immigration-reform-with-new-website

-Ramon



-Ramon

[Phil Da Lick!]

On 04/02/2013 16:37, chrisv wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
>> Pretty much ALL folks in high tech are Liberals:
>>
>> - Bill Gates
>> - Steve Ballmer
>> - Steve Jobs (now, his widow)
>> - Steve Wozniak
>> - Jeff Bezos
>> - The Google Boys
>> - Mark Zuckerberg
>> - etc.
>
> Except when it comes to hording their own $billions, of course.
>

Or locking the industry up with stupid patents on obvious things worded
in lawyer speak so the only people making more $billions will be them.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On Feb 4, 10:13 am, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> Tech, telecom giants take sides as FCC proposes large public WiFi
> networks
>
> By Cecilia Kang, Published: February 3
> Washington Post
>
> "The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the
> nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them
> to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone bill
> every month.
>
> "The proposal from the Federal Communications Commission has rattled
> the $178 billion wireless industry, which has launched a fierce
> lobbying effort to persuade policymakers to reconsider the idea,
> analysts say. That has been countered by an equally intense campaign
> from Google, Microsoft and other tech giants who say a free-for-all
> WiFi service would spark an explosion of innovations and devices that
> would benefit most Americans, especially the poor.
>
> "The airwaves that FCC officials want to hand over to the public would
> be much more powerful than existing WiFi networks that have become
> common in households. They could penetrate thick concrete walls and
> travel over [...]"
>

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/tech-telecom-giants...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aaa9e6g
>
> -Ramon

Gee, how will those "poor" people be able to afford desktop and laptop
computers? Ohh, you forgot to mention, the taxpayers will be paying
for them too. I think that is a good thing because pawn shops will be
stocked up on expensive computers that I can but for pennies on the
dollar. All I'll have to do is clean the porn off the harddrive.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Feb 4, 10:59 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

You are very confused: The US is not Haiti or Zimbabwe: Our poor are
not THAT poor. They rather have cell phones than landlines, for
starters. They could connect from public libraries (you against those,
too???)

-Ramon

[Ezekiel]

>"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
>news:d279fd98-bc06-4473...@5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...

>On Feb 4, 10:37 am, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>> >Pretty much ALL folks in high tech are Liberals:
>>
>> > - Bill Gates
>> > - Steve Ballmer
>> > - Steve Jobs (now, his widow)
>> > - Steve Wozniak
>> > - Jeff Bezos
>> > - The Google Boys
>> > - Mark Zuckerberg
>> > - etc.
>>
>
> > Except when it comes to hoarding their own $billions, of course.
> >
>
>What you call "hoarding" is otherwise known as "owning".
>
>Do you call this "hoarding"??
>

"Hoarding" - how dare anyone keep what they've worked for. Oh wait - some
bitter nobody thinks that it's too much and unfair that they should get to
keep that much.

<quote>
As of 2007, Bill and Melinda Gates were the second-most generous
philanthropists in America, having given over $28 billion to charity. They
plan to eventually give 95% of their wealth to charity.
</quote>

What people do with their money and their property is their business.

>Steve Jobs' Widow:
>
>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203458604577261342745473460.html
>
>http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/laurene-powell-jobs-widow-launches-dream-act-website-86553.html
>
>http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/01/22/laurene-powell-jobs-promoting-us-immigration-reform-with-new-website
>

Good for her and her postion.

--
"Hey, Kook, does one need to be a gymnast, to recognize that someone is a
complete klutz that can't even stand on the balance beam?"

The clueless turdv and his pathetic attempt to claim that a complete
non-programmer can judge source-code quality because a non-gymnast can
recognize the obvious error that falling off a balance beam.

Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013
Message-ID: <roufg817il0s1pi9p...@4ax.com>

[MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE]

"Ramon F. Herrera"

> > Gee, how will those "poor" people be able to afford desktop
> > and laptop computers?
>
> You are very confused: The US is not Haiti or Zimbabwe: Our poor are
> not THAT poor. They rather have cell phones than landlines, for
> starters. They could connect from public libraries (you against those,
> too???)

Not as poor as Haiti now, just WAIT! Just like Greece.
And why shouldn't the poor have more access to what
the internet provides now, more weird LIB PORN.



LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
http://theblacksphere.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Obama-shooting-
Flowers.jpg
OBAMA::DEFENDOR of the Realm,
who in times of Crisis, facilitated our Adversaries.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Indeed... And what We The Public do with their reputation, fame and
image is our business.

Laurene Jobs in Univision:

http://tinyurl.com/azqa8dm

-Ramon

[chrisv]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:

>What you call "hoarding" is otherwise known as "owning".

Fine. But no one who is sitting on $billions is a "liberal".

They may want to be perceived as such, but they are not.

I'm no bible-thumper, but it the book does contain some wisdom:

"I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a
needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

[Bert]

In news:fjrvg8p1me05umn4d...@4ax.com chrisv

<chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
>>What you call "hoarding" is otherwise known as "owning".
>
> Fine. But no one who is sitting on $billions is a "liberal".
>
> They may want to be perceived as such, but they are not.

What special insight do you have that you can see through this veil?
What's their true nature?

> I'm no bible-thumper, but it the book does contain some wisdom:
>
> "I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a
> needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

Why's that? Is wealth creation viewed as evil in your system of ethics?

And, who the hell picked this set of newsgroups for this discussion?

--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Feb 4, 11:26 am, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> >What you call "hoarding" is otherwise known as "owning".
>
> Fine.  But no one who is sitting on $billions is a "liberal".
>
> They may want to be perceived as such, but they are not.

I was under the impression that the only ones who printed
Constitutions, Bibles and Dictionaries in their basements were the
winger-baggers. I stand corrected: You do that kind of home printing
as well. See old post below.

-Ramon

ps: As long as you are the authority who can issue a "Certificate of
Liberal", how much would you charge for a couple of certificates for
me?? I am interested in one of "MIT PhD" and one of "Mr. Venezuela",
for starters.

-----------------------------------------

I have written often that folks from the far right believe in the
constitution (lowercase), but not the one available elsewhere. They
happen to own printing presses with which they produce their own
private:

- Constitutions
- Dictionaries
- Bibles

In those fake constitutions, the amendments 4th. (Arizona) and 14th.
(so-called anchor babies) are missing, as well as the part about free
assembly (black and hispanic caucuses, Hispanic Chamber of Commerce).

In their dictionaries, the term "immigrant" cannot possibly be illegal
and the term "racist" defines people who are only trying to improve
themselves (United Negro College, NCLR) without detriment to other
groups.

In their basement-printed bibles, their god (lowercase) is one filled
with wrath and according to recent research, he is not too bright
either.

-Ramon The One Who Only Accepts Official Constitutions, Bibles and
Dictionaries

[chrisv]

Bert wrote:

> What special insight do you have

That's a really "smart" question. Their stunning wealth is public
knowledge, as is the poverty on the other end of the scale.

> Is wealth creation viewed as evil in your system of ethics?
>
> And, who the hell picked this set of newsgroups for this discussion?

Maybe someone who is too stupid to discern a difference between
"wealth creation" and being an evil, self bastard.

[chrisv]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:

>I was under the impression that the only ones who printed
>Constitutions, Bibles and Dictionaries in their basements were the
>winger-baggers. I stand corrected: You do that kind of home printing
>as well.

Idiot.

>See old post below.

No.

>ps: As long as you are the authority who can issue a "Certificate of
>Liberal"

Yeah, like it's real "difficult" to exclude people like Gates from
"liberals". How "unreasonable" of me.

Sheesh!

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Feb 4, 11:29 am, Bert <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> And, who the hell picked this set of newsgroups
> for this discussion?

That would be moi - A person who has the experience of being promoted
from Usenet writer (in my underwear, in Cambridge across my job at
MIT) to Internet Tzar of a country (dealing with Congressmen,
Governors and Presidents, being interviewed in press and TV).

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Feb 4, 11:54 am, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Yeah, like it's real "difficult" to exclude people like Gates from
> "liberals".  How "unreasonable" of me.
>
> Sheesh!

Melinda Gates sits in the Board of Directors of the Washington Post.
AKA: The Obama Campaign Central Media HQ.

http://www.nndb.com/people/435/000022369/

-Ramon

[Ezekiel]

>"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message

>news:b2445564-e4ce-4862...@m12g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...

>On Feb 4, 11:26 am, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> > >What you call "hoarding" is otherwise known as "owning".
> >
> > Fine. But no one who is sitting on $billions is a "liberal".
> >
> > They may want to be perceived as such, but they are not.
>

LOL - Turdv never met a fact that he got completely wrong:

<quote>
Those "Evil, Rich People" - are Democrats
January 2011

From the, "you never hear about that from the media" file - Those "Evil,
Rich People" that Democrats are always wailing about are actually -
Democrats.

While I don't agree in referring to rich people as "Evil", Democrats are
often making such accusations. But what most people don't realize is that
the Top 3 "richest" people in the country are all Democrats. This list
includes: Bill Gates, Warren Buffett & Larry Ellison are all Democrats.
Together, they are worth $126 Billion Dollars.
</quote>
http://newamericangazette.com/2011/01/top-20-richest-people-democrats/

>I was under the impression that the only ones who printed
>Constitutions, Bibles and Dictionaries in their basements were the
>winger-baggers. I stand corrected: You do that kind of home printing
>as well. See old post below.
>

You should simply ignore the candidates they support, the political
contributions they make and the causes they support. These people are not
"really liberal" because some anonymous usenet kook named "chrisv" says so.

--
Your right to "free" speech is merely the "right" to things like racism.
Civilised countries should not grant such "rights".

Homer (aka Keith G. Robertson-Turner) - socialist and anti-freedom zealot
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013
Message-ID: <ued5t9-...@sky.matrix>

[Harold Burton]

In article
<3b3fac8d-f59f-4258...@r14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

LOL!!!

[Harold Burton]

In article <XnsA15D59156C2CBEx...@69.16.185.247>,

Or the telemarketers who blatantly ignore the "Do not call" Registry.

[chrisv]

Ezekiel wrote:

>>"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote (snipped, unread)

I see the filthy troll "Ezekiel" is following me around.

"Ezekiel" is a shameless liar and a supporter of the Micro$oft Corp.
He thinks there no consumer choice problem at all, as long it is
possible to somehow, somewhere, obtain a PC if it doesn't have Windows
pre-installed, even if it costs a LOT more money to avoid the
monopolyware.

[chrisv]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:

>Melinda Gates sits in the Board of Directors of the Washington Post.
>AKA: The Obama Campaign Central Media HQ.

Gosh, I'm "impressed" by Gates' "philanthropy". Not.

And Jobs - did he even support his own kid, born out of wedlock? So
"liberal" of him.

--
"As the old saying goes... "If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin."
- trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", defending Micro$oft's unethical
behavior

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Feb 4, 12:21 pm, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> And Jobs - did he even support his own kid,
> born out of wedlock?  So "liberal" of him.

Yes, he did. He took care of his daughter, Lisa, and named a computer
after her.

http://www.cultofmac.com/194481/steve-jobss-ex-girlfriend-mother-of-lisa-to-publish-memoir-in-2013/

http://tinyurl.com/bks2wex

Jobs was an orphan of sorts, not unlike an immigrant. This is the
reason his companies always have supported the plight of the members
of the Undocumented Workforce. See Disney:

http://www.renewoureconomy.org/

-Ramon The Orphan of Sorts

[ed]

On Monday, February 4, 2013 10:42:13 AM UTC-8, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Feb 4, 12:21 pm, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > And Jobs - did he even support his own kid,
> > born out of wedlock?  So "liberal" of him.
>
> Yes, he did. He took care of his daughter, Lisa, and named a computer
> after her.

he did eventually. how he handled the paternity is one of the stories that really crystallizes how scummy of a guy jobs could be.

...

[MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE]

Harold Burton

Most telemarketers are either thinly veiled dox attacks,
or robo-calls seeking out 'types' of answering machines
and smartphones to exploit.


LIBs sustain the erroneous notions
that a contemptable liar "means well"
that a suicide bomber "can't help it"
that rock throwing thug "needs love"
that political power "grows out the barrel of a gun"



Moral Cowardice is fear of upholding the Good because it is good,
and fear of opposing Evil because it is Evil;
of Rewarding the Guilty
of Punishing the Innocent
of Championing the Depraved on the basis of their Depravity.

[Bert]

In news:jpsvg81lk2n7kofip...@4ax.com chrisv

<chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> That's a really "smart" question.

Which explains why you're unable to even address it.

Good luck.

[GreyCloud]

Which turdv voted for. LOL!!!

[GreyCloud]

The loser, turdv, reminds me of some clown that used to call in to the
Art Bell show from time to time, screaming about how Art was going to be
thrown into a boiling pit of sewage. LOL!!!

[GreyCloud]

As if you never followed Zeke around, eh, turdv??

[saneearth]

On 2013-02-04 16:13:07 +0000, Ramon F Herrera said:

> Tech, telecom giants take sides as FCC proposes large public WiFi
> networks
>
> By Cecilia Kang, Published: February 3
> Washington Post
>
> "The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the
> nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them
> to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone bill
> every month.
>
> "The proposal from the Federal Communications Commission has rattled
> the $178 billion wireless industry, which has launched a fierce
> lobbying effort to persuade policymakers to reconsider the idea,
> analysts say. That has been countered by an equally intense campaign
> from Google, Microsoft and other tech giants who say a free-for-all
> WiFi service would spark an explosion of innovations and devices that
> would benefit most Americans, especially the poor.
>
> "The airwaves that FCC officials want to hand over to the public would
> be much more powerful than existing WiFi networks that have become
> common in households. They could penetrate thick concrete walls and
> travel over [...]"
>

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/tech-telecom-giants-take-sides-as-fcc-proposes-large-public-wifi-networks/2013/02/03/eb27d3e0-698b-11e2-ada3-d86a4806d5ee_story.html
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aaa9e6g
>
> -Ramon

…..and this will push us forward into the 21st Century where
information is the driving force of the economy. These "guys" you later
say are all liberals is not necessarilly true. They are just very
bright individuals, that moved into the future. Unfortunately, you are
obviously too stupid to understand that this is an investment in the
future of the country and not some "giveaway" to folks that "haven't
earned it".

[7]

A great great idea.

Everyone would benefit. The poor more than anyone else, but the majority
are not poor in America and they would benefit in greater numbers!!!!!!!!!!

I got on the train the other day because car getting repair.

For all intents and purposes, I was thrown back into the stone
age for a few hours. No internet, no information, nothing to do
but watch the scenery in pitch black.

[7]

[Flint]

On 2/4/2013 11:13 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>
> Tech, telecom giants take sides as FCC proposes large public WiFi
> networks
>
> By Cecilia Kang, Published: February 3
> Washington Post
>
> "The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the
> nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them
> to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone bill
> every month.
>
> "The proposal from the Federal Communications Commission has rattled
> the $178 billion wireless industry, which has launched a fierce
> lobbying effort to persuade policymakers to reconsider the idea,
> analysts say. That has been countered by an equally intense campaign
> from Google, Microsoft and other tech giants who say a free-for-all
> WiFi service would spark an explosion of innovations and devices that
> would benefit most Americans, especially the poor.
>
> "The airwaves that FCC officials want to hand over to the public would
> be much more powerful than existing WiFi networks that have become
> common in households. They could penetrate thick concrete walls and
> travel over [...]"
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/tech-telecom-giants-take-sides-as-fcc-proposes-large-public-wifi-networks/2013/02/03/eb27d3e0-698b-11e2-ada3-d86a4806d5ee_story.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aaa9e6g
>
> -Ramon
>

Frankly, although I'm pro-capitalism through and through, I do have to
confess that the greed of the carriers and their Machiavellian
bandwidth throttling/excessive caps doesn't speak well for them and a
publicly operated WiFi super-network has a certain appeal with some
advantages. Of course, the first thing to completely go away would be
a digital equivalent of any "expectation of privacy" on the public
thoroughfare of the "information super-highway"...



--
MFB

[owl]

I miss Art.

[Flint]

And of course, liberals love to misconstrue this to mean god views
wealth as greed. Never mind the book also mentions god as pouring out
a blessing on his followers so large that they cannot contain it
"pressed down, and shaken together", and has provided great wealth to
his followers.

I still think if 10% is good enough for god, it should be good enough
for the Federal government.


--
MFB

[GreyCloud]

He was a pretty neat guy. Also, when he ran it, he didn't screen the
calls, so once in a while some nutter would call and then it was a lot
of laughs.

[Phil Da Lick!]

No, that would be the second thing. The first would be any concept of
value for money. Governments just can't do things any near the cost
efficiency of the private sector. Although this may be started with the
best of intentions it's only a matter of time until the bill for
maintaining it creeps ever upwards.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On Feb 4, 5:24 pm, 7

> but watch the scenery in pitch black.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You mean you weren't entertained by the fisfights, homeless drunks
shitting on the floor, and gropings?

[Rollo]

"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" wrote in message
news:effda10c-bbef-45b4...@r3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

And he didn't get mugged and robbed??!!

[Big Steel]

On 2/4/2013 11:13 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:

<snipped>

It's never going to happen. The lobbyists for the carries like Verizon
and AT&T are already working to block it.

[Ezekiel]

"Lewis" <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnkh0v8q....@mbp55.local...
> In message <keonpi$5ej$1...@dont-email.me>
> Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>> "Ramon F Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
>
>> So he'll
>
> He?
>
> Since when does the FCC have a designated sex?
>

Since when do brick buildings and other inanimate objects make government
policy? An agency like the FCC is made up of /people/ - not a bunch of
buildings, books and pens. It's /people/ who make policy and in this case it
is a *he*.

<quote>
Designed by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski, the plan would be a global
first.... "Freeing up unlicensed spectrum is a vibrantly free-market
approach that offers low barriers to entry to innovators developing the
technologies of the future and benefits consumers," Genachow�ski said in a
an e-mailed statement.
</quote>


--
"I've been using Linux since mid 1990. What's that? Around 20 years?"
Message-ID: <slrnjj1f2u.77...@netscape.net>
Greg Shearman and his magical time machine.

On 25 August 1991, Linus Torvalds announced Linux in a Usenet posting. By
September 1991, Linux version 0.01 was released on the FTP server
(ftp.funet.fi) of the Finnish University and Research Network (FUNET).

[Ramon F. Herrera]

What is "Super Wi-Fi?"

Summary: The Washington Post is reporting that the US Federal
Communications Commission wants to "create super WiFi networks." So
what are they talking about anyway?

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Networking | February 5, 2013 --
01:27 GMT (17:27 PST)

"According to The Washington Post, the US Federal Communications
Commission's (FCC) chairman Julius Genachowski "wants to create super

WiFi networks across the nation, so powerful and broad in reach that
consumers could use them to make calls or surf the Internet without

paying a cellphone bill every month." Oh yes, and this will be "free."

http://www.zdnet.com/what-is-super-wi-fi-7000010802/?s_cid=e539

-Ramon

[Ezekiel]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:acea28ae-9635-4bca...@cd3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

>
> What is "Super Wi-Fi?"
>
> Summary: The Washington Post is reporting that the US Federal
> Communications Commission wants to "create super WiFi networks." So
> what are they talking about anyway?
>
> By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Networking | February 5, 2013 --
> 01:27 GMT (17:27 PST)
>
> "According to The Washington Post, the US Federal Communications
> Commission's (FCC) chairman Julius Genachowski "wants to create super
> WiFi networks across the nation, so powerful and broad in reach that
> consumers could use them to make calls or surf the Internet without
> paying a cellphone bill every month." Oh yes, and this will be "free."
>

"Free?" If you think that paying for Wifi and internet access is expensive
now... just wait until you see what it costs when the government gives it to
everybody for "free."

--
Any country with laws is, by definition, not "free"

"Homer"
23 Jan 2013
Message-ID: <erk5t9-...@sky.matrix>

[Phil Da Lick!]

On 05/02/2013 14:36, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> What is "Super Wi-Fi?"

Political buillshit speak for "Wi-Fi".

[sms]

On 2/4/2013 8:32 AM, Ezekiel wrote:

> You'll never be able to cover 100% of the country with WIFI which is
> inherently short range anyway.

Just as you can't cover 100% of the country with cellular.

> So he'll be able to cover the inner-cities and major metropolitan areas
> which is where the majority of his voting constituency lives anyway. And the
> people living in the rural areas can help pay for this program. It's a smart
> political move.

We all pay for some government programs that we like, and some that we
don't like. Some people don't like giving agricultural subsidies to
corporate farmers, some people don't like the public having access to
the public airwaves.

[sms]

On 2/4/2013 8:13 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>
> Tech, telecom giants take sides as FCC proposes large public WiFi
> networks
>
> By Cecilia Kang, Published: February 3
> Washington Post
>

> "The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the

> nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them
> to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone bill
> every month.
>

> "The proposal from the Federal Communications Commission has rattled
> the $178 billion wireless industry, which has launched a fierce
> lobbying effort to persuade policymakers to reconsider the idea,
> analysts say. That has been countered by an equally intense campaign
> from Google, Microsoft and other tech giants who say a free-for-all
> WiFi service would spark an explosion of innovations and devices that
> would benefit most Americans, especially the poor.
>
> "The airwaves that FCC officials want to hand over to the public would
> be much more powerful than existing WiFi networks that have become
> common in households. They could penetrate thick concrete walls and
> travel over [...]"

You mean the FCC actually wants the public airwaves to be used to
benefit the public, not just AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile?! What
a concept. Is the head of the FCC some kind of commie?

Seriously, this is an excellent idea. The cost of wireless
communications via the cellular networks is outrageously high and the
owners of these networks have a vested interested in keeping it high.

While Wi-Fi has become ubiquitous in some parts of the country, you
still have to seek it out in other places.

[Bert]

In news:kerr1c$ee2$1...@dont-email.me sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote:

> We all pay for some government programs that we like, and some that we
> don't like.

We all pay for everything (assuming you pay taxes, that is).

> Some people don't like giving agricultural subsidies to
> corporate farmers, some people don't like the public having access to
> the public airwaves.

And some people take a principled position against paying for any of
that crap.

And I'm taking a principled position against crossposting Ramon's
nonsense to groups where it's even more off-topic than usual.

Followups set.

[sms]

On 2/4/2013 8:37 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>

>> Pretty much ALL folks in high tech are Liberals:
>>
>> - Bill Gates
>> - Steve Ballmer
>> - Steve Jobs (now, his widow)
>> - Steve Wozniak
>> - Jeff Bezos
>> - The Google Boys
>> - Mark Zuckerberg
>> - etc.
>

> Except when it comes to hording their own $billions, of course.

Bill Gates is certainly not hoarding his billions. Steve Wozniak doesn't
have billions. Jobs didn't make public his charitable contributions, if
any, but that doesn't mean that they did not exist. However he was
publicly against Apple giving out "free stuff." I recall him appearing
at a Cupertino City Council meeting to speak about the new campus and
the city council members asking him for free stuff like city-wide Wi-Fi.
He said that his concept of how thing should work is that Apple pays
taxes and the city does what they want with the money.

[Bert]

In news:kerr2b$ee2$2...@dont-email.me sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote:

> You mean the FCC actually wants the public airwaves to be used to
> benefit the public, not just AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile?!

Are you saying that the customers of these carriers receive no benefit
from their services?

Why do they pay for things that they don't value?

[Followups set]

[7]

I am entertained by low paid trolls and their low pay talk
and trolls groping each other whilst shitting on each other's
faces. Call me shellfish.


Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Hiring low pay online trolls is ignorant.

Those hiring online trolls are too afraid to make a statement
in person in case their bollocks got cut off and sold
on ebay for 2 cents.

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so they fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

Nearly all foul mouthed trolling across all of usenet and forums
originates from the USA trolling industry.
The same ones screaming abuse against Americans
are the same ones screaming abuse at the rest of the world.
The US politician is proud because without their
daily dose of illegal funding through charities, and the
services of industrial strength trolling machinery,
they would be out flipping burgers for a living.

Troll friendly usenet sites like eternal-september.org
banned by att.net, ameritech.net, bellsouth.net, pacbell.net
and prodigy.net for its foul mouth and lies over trolling
and off topic spammer friendly posting policies against
the usenet charter of all known groups is where all of
the trolling problems begins.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.
Companies like Eedleman also run fake survey companies
and delete everything except outlying data to fake their reports
to add legitimacy to their trolling campaigns.

The US trolling companies now set up branch offices
in foreign countries like Netherlands
and UK to post illegally and subversively what is
handed down the chain of command leading all the way to
fake charities and marketing trolls
shielded illegally behind big corporations in US.
Wikileaks tells us 5% of all US diplomatic activity is to
do with Appil and Micorshaft trolls and their
trolling armies controlling US diplomatic services
at tax payer expense as their personal puppets.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music mafia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies. What would you do if you were
forced into a shelter and all your charity
money was stolen from your charity?
You are down and they still want to steal YOUR CHARITY MONEY?!??
Thats right you would tell them NEVER and tell
them fsck off in no uncertain terms and get the law changed
to make it a criminal offense to steal charity money
or spend it on anything other than 100% certified peer reviewed charity
without kickbacks, without creative accounting and
without morally unjust criminal behavior within
the charity system.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstroturfing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610. Burson-Marstelar
won the contract performing all the activities
required in the solicitation with fantastic usenet software
tools for targeting individuals and trolling 24/7
and all built in outsourced India.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographically
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear to
originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.b...@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111

[Ezekiel]

"7" <email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
news:5ZeQs.11006$PR3....@fx12.fr7...

When it comes to low pay - you're certainly an expert.

"I use Linux and open source tools for my every day job. Around $1100 per
week."

7-tard. Drooling over the burger-flipping salary he makes with Linux.
Sun, 22 Apr 2012
Message-ID: <G_Ykr.348244$xD4.2...@fx06.am4>

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Feb 4, 10:13 am, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> Tech, telecom giants take sides as FCC proposes large public WiFi
> networks
>
> By Cecilia Kang, Published: February 3
> Washington Post
>
> "The federal government wants to create super WiFi networks across the
> nation, so powerful and broad in reach that consumers could use them
> to make calls or surf the Internet without paying a cellphone bill
> every month.
>
> "The proposal from the Federal Communications Commission has rattled
> the $178 billion wireless industry, which has launched a fierce
> lobbying effort to persuade policymakers to reconsider the idea,
> analysts say. That has been countered by an equally intense campaign
> from Google, Microsoft and other tech giants who say a free-for-all
> WiFi service would spark an explosion of innovations and devices that
> would benefit most Americans, especially the poor.
>
> "The airwaves that FCC officials want to hand over to the public would
> be much more powerful than existing WiFi networks that have become
> common in households. They could penetrate thick concrete walls and
> travel over [...]"
>

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/tech-telecom-giants...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aaa9e6g
>
> -Ramon


The real way to free Wi-Fi

"Summary: The Washington Post story about "free" super-Wi-Fi has been
largely discredited, but there already is a practical plan for free Wi-
Fi: Sharing. Here's how it works."

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Networking | February 7, 2013 --
13:12 GMT (05:12 PST)

"Unless you've been under a rock or don't care about technology, you
already know that The Washington Post story about free "Super Wi-Fi"
was fundamentally wrong. There is, however, a realistic plan afoot to
bring free Wi-Fi to many people: The Open Wireless Movement."

http://www.zdnet.com/the-real-way-to-free-wi-fi-7000010945/?s_cid=e539

-Ramon

[Bret Cahill]

The legacy media hate the poor having cheap communications even more
than the GOP and they can hardly hide that fact.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_frm/thread/43adcdc4b26c2503?hl=en#

> By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Networking | February 7, 2013 --
> 13:12 GMT (05:12 PST)
>
> "Unless you've been under a rock or don't care about technology, you
> already know that The Washington Post story about free "Super Wi-Fi"
> was fundamentally wrong. There is, however, a realistic plan afoot to
> bring free Wi-Fi to many people: The Open Wireless Movement."
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/the-real-way-to-free-wi-fi-7000010945/?s_cid=e539

The legacy media support the poor getting food stamps and free speech
for naked nazi flagburner parades.

And nothing more.

If the poor get cheap communications they ain't gonna be talking about
the imPOOORtant flag burner issue.

They will be discussing economic information -- exactly as James
Madison intended.


Bret Cahill

[Tom Sr.]

On Feb 7, 10:33 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If the poor get cheap communications they ain't gonna be talking about
> the imPOOORtant flag burner issue.

Yep.


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* This award is given to the person who gets spanked (as in,
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** Given to someone whose Kookery is judged to have surpassed all
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*** For those most prolific in the art of, abiet thinly,
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