Bless the Dell Cost Saving Manager - CDs and DVDs are objects of the Devil
Father Justin
objects o the Devil. Dell is preventing the Devil from infesting homes
by not providing CDs or DVDs with the Operating system. Dell's hard
drives are blessed and never fail! The $0.001 saved on every machine by
not manufacturing plastic media for operating system reinstalls is
donated to good causes - we know this for a fact, after all Mike Dell is
such a stand up man. He helps poor east indians feed their families by
using them for tech support. Bless Mike Dell!
Apple, by providing reinstall DVDs is destroying the Earth, and killing
babies by giving DVDs containing the operating system! They should have
a recovery partition on the hard drive like the Lord's companies do.
Apple must be purged!
Amen
Steve de Mena
You can burn those reinstall discs yourself when you get a system, or
you can order them with your system.
It's called "choice".
Steve
Alan Baker
Unless Apple did it... ...then you'd be all over it.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
RonB
Heck, at the price Apple charges they could give you a whole backup
computer and not be out much. My wife's Dell came with rebuild DVD/CDs
(Vista, which we don't use, but it's the thought that counts). My Dad's
Dell didn't come with rebuild CDs, but it only took a few minutes with
customer support to get them on their way.
--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
Hadron
ZnU
wrote:
It is a little baffling that they don't include them. You'd think
including a $0.20 disc with every machine would be cheaper than the
additional support resources consumed in dealing with lack of same.
--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
Quadibloc
> You can burn those reinstall discs yourself when you get a system, or
> you can order them with your system.
>
> It's called "choice".
I thought that kind of "choice" was stupid when they took the $30
floppy drives out of the iMac and gave people the "choice" of buying
an external one for $100. It's just as stupid when a Windows PC maker
does the same thing.
John Savard
Tim Murray
I got one for like $15.
Snit
>>> Apple, by providing reinstall DVDs is destroying the Earth, and
>>> killing babies by giving DVDs containing the operating system! They
>>> should have a recovery partition on the hard drive like the Lord's
>>> companies do. Apple must be purged!
>>>
>>> Amen
>>
>> You can burn those reinstall discs yourself when you get a system, or
>> you can order them with your system.
>>
>> It's called "choice".
>
> Heck, at the price Apple charges they could give you a whole backup
> computer and not be out much.
They have a relatively high markup for the industry, but nowhere near 100%.
> My wife's Dell came with rebuild DVD/CDs (Vista, which we don't use, but it's
> the thought that counts). My Dad's Dell didn't come with rebuild CDs, but it
> only took a few minutes with customer support to get them on their way.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Fa-groon
(in article
<edaa9751-e444-4262...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>):
I bought an external one for my Mac for $5. Can't complain. I only use it
when people send me floppies in the mail because they either aren't on the
internet with their ancient computers or don't know any other way to do it. I
might have used the thing twice since the floppy was removed from Macs. They
are essentially useless these days, and Jobs recognized that. Cheap optical
media, thumb drives, and the internet have all but obviated any other kind of
removable storage.
Steve de Mena
No the same thing. The Mac gave no option for an internal floppy so
their solution was a workaround and not equivalent..
Steve
Alan Baker
How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
Rick
> In article <m86dndSsia4VCaDW...@giganews.com>,
> Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
>> Quadibloc wrote:
>> > On Dec 31, 12:14 am, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> You can burn those reinstall discs yourself when you get a system,
>> >> or you can order them with your system.
>> >>
>> >> It's called "choice".
>> >
>> > I thought that kind of "choice" was stupid when they took the $30
>> > floppy drives out of the iMac and gave people the "choice" of buying
>> > an external one for $100. It's just as stupid when a Windows PC maker
>> > does the same thing.
>> >
>> > John Savard
>>
>> No the same thing. The Mac gave no option for an internal floppy so
>> their solution was a workaround and not equivalent..
>>
>> Steve
>
> How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
Less desktop clutter, for one.
--
Rick
Steve de Mena
As if that needed to be pointed out! LOL
Steve
KDT
> Rick wrote:
> > On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
>
> >> Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Quadibloc wrote:
> >>>> On Dec 31, 12:14 am, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> You can burn those reinstall discs yourself when you get a system,
> >>>>> or you can order them with your system.
>
> >>>>> It's called "choice".
> >>>> I thought that kind of "choice" was stupid when they took the $30
> >>>> floppy drives out of the iMac and gave people the "choice" of buying
> >>>> an external one for $100. It's just as stupid when a Windows PC maker
> >>>> does the same thing.
>
> >>>> John Savard
> >>> No the same thing. The Mac gave no option for an internal floppy so
> >>> their solution was a workaround and not equivalent..
>
> >>> Steve
> >> How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>
> > Less desktop clutter, for one.
>
> As if that needed to be pointed out! LOL
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
So what is ir about you and wanting computers with dying technology -
3.5" floppy disks in 1998, and 802.11G, 10/100 ethernet, DDR2 RAM, and
Intel integrated graphics in 2010?
Weren't you also the one that said you didn't need dual monitor
support and then three months later posted about how wonderful it was
once you started using more than one monitor?
Father Justin
Was the floppy drive required to reinstall the MacOS at the time?
Before I wiped the machine I checked all the Dell junkware - there was
no option to burn the recovery disks.
The HP I bitched about last week - did and I used it last year - so I
know how it works.
There was NO recovery partition either. The drive was 80GB, there was
75GB total, with a 10MB partition - either a mistake by the mass imager
or diagnostic junk that doesn't do anything.
EIther was - once again the machine was out of warranty so calling Dell
and ordering DVDs for $50 is completely unreasonable.
Steve de Mena
Where did I say I "wanted 3.5 floppy disks"?? I said, exactly "No the
same thing. The Mac gave no option for an internal floppy so their
solution was a workaround and not equivalent."
That was a statement of fact. Not opinion or desire.
>
> Weren't you also the one that said you didn't need dual monitor
> support and then three months later posted about how wonderful it was
> once you started using more than one monitor?
It would depend on what I was going to use a machine for. I can't
make a blanket statement that I "don't need dual monitor support"
without knowing the scenario. On my MacBook Pro, for example, I don't
think I'll need it.
Steve
Mayor Of R'lyeh
> In article <T1%_m.3$Sh...@newsfe25.iad>, RonB <ronb02NOS...@gmail.com>
do you realistically think can find their reinstall disks six months
after they have their computers? And that goes for PC and Mac users.
JEDIDIAH
>
>
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
>>How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>
>
...people that are prone to lose things.
...people that care about what their computing setup looks like.
An optical drive or floppy drive is a small thing compared to the
average PC. With as much space as is wasted in the average PC, you might
as well pack in ever $10 device you can.
OTOH if you have an ultra slim device, hanging a bunch of little USB
devices off of it completely destroys it's aesthetic and compactness and
will probably become highly annoying as wall warts enter the picture.
The next time I see I picture of a fully upgraded TI/99 or Atari 800, I
need to snag that and keep it handy.
With an external USB DVD reader you can lose your drive along with your
Windows driver disks... [chuckle]
--
The best OS in the world is ultimately useless |||
if it is controlled by a Tramiel, Jobs or Gates. / | \
Alan Baker
Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>
> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
Ezekiel
"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-7423E...@news.shawcable.com...
> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>>
>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
>
> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
And all computers should have the big 25-pin serial port connnector and the
massive "centronics" printer port as well. Who needs progress anyway.
Besides - floppy disks are so useful. It only takes 4 floppies to backup a
single MP3 file if I break it up into 1.44 meg fragments using "split."
chrisv
> Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
>>device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
>>drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
>
>Sure, why not. I suppose I can't speak for minimalists, because I'm
>anything but.
>
>Then again, I'm the type that would install a 5.25" floppy in my quad
>core machine for nostalgic value.
That's why Hadron Quark places a turd on top of his PC - it reminds
him of his "birth".
--
"Why would they use two different producust?" - "True Linux
advocate" Hadron Quark, apparently unable to think of a reason why
someone might choose the free Open Office for use at home
JEDIDIAH
>
>
>
> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-7423E...@news.shawcable.com...
>> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
>> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>>>
>>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
>>
>> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
>> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
>> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
>
> And all computers should have the big 25-pin serial port connnector and the
> massive "centronics" printer port as well. Who needs progress anyway.
Getting rid of stuff that works perfectly well is not "progress".
[deletia]
Progress is not needing to emulate the original IBM PC in order to
support such a connector.
--
In a "stable" but "inconsistent" system, the end user only |||
has to adapt once rather than needing to adapt any time a / | \
new version of the relevant shovelware is released.
JEDIDIAH
>
>
> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>>
>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
>
> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
...yes. A drawer where you will quickly forget about the device and
lose it. Then the next time you need it you will be scrambling to figure
out where it is or even if you have one.
Alan Baker
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
> > Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
> >>
> >> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
> >
> > Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
> > device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
> > drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
>
> ...yes. A drawer where you will quickly forget about the device and
> lose it. Then the next time you need it you will be scrambling to figure
> out where it is or even if you have one.
Really? You habitually lose items in the drawer of your desk? I don't
have a desk and yet I can put my hands on any of the smaller peripherals
I've got for my laptop in just a few seconds.
But apparently, your memory is so poor you won't even remember...
...HAVING ONE!
LOL
Alan Baker
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2010-01-05, Ezekiel <not-...@the-zeke.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-7423E...@news.shawcable.com...
> >> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
> >> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
> >>
> >> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
> >> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
> >> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
> >
> > And all computers should have the big 25-pin serial port connnector and the
> > massive "centronics" printer port as well. Who needs progress anyway.
>
> Getting rid of stuff that works perfectly well is not "progress".
Punch cards worked "perfectly well", so did cassette tapes.
>
> [deletia]
>
> Progress is not needing to emulate the original IBM PC in order to
> support such a connector.
LOL
Hadron
> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
>> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>>>
>>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
>>
>> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
>> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
>> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
>
> ...yes. A drawer where you will quickly forget about the device and
> lose it. Then the next time you need it you will be scrambling to figure
> out where it is or even if you have one.
Yes. This IS how this idiot Jed thinks. Kelsey thinks the same way.
The best though is Andrew "Spike1" (the kid who keeps showing off about
his degree and thinks its not stealing to download video/music/games
without paying for it) - he is on record as saying its better to have
several devices instead of a single one like an iPhone in case you get
mugged.
LOL. Priceless.
ed
> On Jan 1, 8:46 am, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
> > >>> Steve
> > >> How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>
> > > Less desktop clutter, for one.
>
> > As if that needed to be pointed out! LOL
>
> > Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> So what is ir about you and wanting computers with dying technology -
> 3.5" floppy disks in 1998, and 802.11G, 10/100 ethernet, DDR2 RAM, and
> Intel integrated graphics in 2010?
you don't want a computer w/ 802.11g or 10/100 ethernet? i sure do
(but then i travel, and like to connect to what's available when i
travel).
Alan Baker
<57ba4709-295d-463f...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
ed <ne...@atwistedweb.com> wrote:
No. I want those things built-in...
...BECAUSE THEY ARE USED ALL THE TIME.
Rex Ballard
wrote:
LOL
> I have come to the revelation that CDs and DVDs containing software are
> objects o the Devil. Dell is preventing the Devil from infesting homes
> by not providing CDs or DVDs with the Operating system. Dell's hard
> drives are blessed and never fail! The $0.001 saved on every machine by
> not manufacturing plastic media for operating system reinstalls is
> donated to good causes - we know this for a fact, after all Mike Dell is
> such a stand up man. He helps poor east indians feed their families by
> using them for tech support. Bless Mike Dell!
Microsoft probably charged Dell a lot more than $0.001 for permission
to create installation media. To Microsoft, the installation media
meant that customers could install Linux then use the install media to
install XP or Vista or Windows 7 as a VM application running under
Linux.
Of course, since Microsoft doesn't want to play nice with Linux, and
is willing to force customers to pay $100 or more for an "upgrade kit"
or "Full Version" so that they can install Windows on a larger hard
drive, it shouldn't be long before the "disposable computers" fail,
end up in the recycle shelf, and get picked up by the Linux users. If
you figure that the average life span of Windows 7 is 9 months before
the malware corrupts it, Linux should be making a rather dramatic
entry in less than a year.
Corporate customers can just create the VM image, install Linux, and
run a "set-up" when the image is booted the first time by a new user.
The personalized copy would then have the necessary footprints to meet
Microsoft's audit requirements.
> Apple, by providing reinstall DVDs is destroying the Earth, and killing
> babies by giving DVDs containing the operating system! They should have
> a recovery partition on the hard drive like the Lord's companies do.
> Apple must be purged!
This and many other excellent customer oriented service practices is
why Apple is making 80% margins on their computers, while Dell is
loosing money trying to sell $400 laptops and $300 netbooks.
> Amen
>
> --http://www.vatican.va
Rex Ballard
> On Jan 1, 8:01 am, KDT <scarface...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 1, 8:46 am, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
> <snip>
> > > >>> Steve
What should a PC have?
> > > >> How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
Most laptops and even most desktops don't have internal floppy drives
anymore.
I got a USB floppy while they were still available. Getting harder to
find them these days.
> > > > Less desktop clutter, for one.
On a laptop though, it means more weight. At home, I have a LinkSys
SAN controller and 2 1TB drives connected to my 802.11n WiFi 1GB
ethernet hub. On the road, a 2.5" USB drive works well, and a couple
of 16 Gig USB flash drives let me get pass information to other
coworkers. E-mail works for floppy sized files.
> > > As if that needed to be pointed out! LOL
> > > Steve- Hide quoted text -
> > So what is ir about you and wanting computers with dying technology -
> > 3.5" floppy disks in 1998, and 802.11G, 10/100 ethernet, DDR2 RAM, and
> > Intel integrated graphics in 2010?
> you don't want a computer w/ 802.11g or 10/100 ethernet? i sure do
> (but then i travel, and like to connect to what's available when i
> travel).
My Lenovo Y730 IdeaBook has a/b/g/n so I can use low speed when range
is bad, and have 400 Mb/sec when range is good and the router is
fast. The ethernet supports 10/100/1000 Mb/sec. It also has USB2 and
SATA. There's even an HDMI video interface. And the screen is 1080p
compatible (1900x1200 pixels). And by the way, all that is working
with Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop or Ubuntu 9.x.
It also works with my Cell phone using a USB cable.
JEDIDIAH
> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-01-05, Ezekiel <not-...@the-zeke.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
>> > news:alangbaker-7423E...@news.shawcable.com...
>> >> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
>> >> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
>> >>
>> >> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
>> >> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
>> >> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
>> >
>> > And all computers should have the big 25-pin serial port connnector and the
>> > massive "centronics" printer port as well. Who needs progress anyway.
>>
>> Getting rid of stuff that works perfectly well is not "progress".
>
> Punch cards worked "perfectly well", so did cassette tapes.
Magnetic tape is alive and well actually.
>
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>> Progress is not needing to emulate the original IBM PC in order to
>> support such a connector.
>
> LOL
>
--
If you think that an 80G disk can hold HUNDRENDS of |||
hours of DV video then you obviously haven't used iMovie either. / | \
JEDIDIAH
>
>
> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> writes:
>
>> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
>>> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
>>>
>>> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
>>> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
>>> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
>>
>> ...yes. A drawer where you will quickly forget about the device and
>> lose it. Then the next time you need it you will be scrambling to figure
>> out where it is or even if you have one.
>
> Yes. This IS how this idiot Jed thinks. Kelsey thinks the same way.
...the same things that make the device convenient also make it easy
to lose. This is of course pretty obvious to anyone that isn't a moron.
The fact that you don't want it as a part of your system obviously means
that it's something that's intended to be hidden from view most of the
time.
[deletia]
The DVD drive and Windows driver CDs will fall into the same wormhole.
JEDIDIAH
>
>
> In article <slrnhk7ca...@nomad.mishnet>,
> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
>> > Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
>> >
>> > Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
>> > device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
>> > drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
>>
>> ...yes. A drawer where you will quickly forget about the device and
>> lose it. Then the next time you need it you will be scrambling to figure
>> out where it is or even if you have one.
>
> Really? You habitually lose items in the drawer of your desk? I don't
This is assuming that a seldom used device is so close at hand.
> have a desk and yet I can put my hands on any of the smaller peripherals
> I've got for my laptop in just a few seconds.
>
> But apparently, your memory is so poor you won't even remember...
>
> ...HAVING ONE!
>
> LOL
>
--
Alan Baker
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > In article <slrnhk7ca...@nomad.mishnet>,
> > JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
> >> > Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
> >> >
> >> > Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
> >> > device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
> >> > drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
> >>
> >> ...yes. A drawer where you will quickly forget about the device and
> >> lose it. Then the next time you need it you will be scrambling to figure
> >> out where it is or even if you have one.
> >
> > Really? You habitually lose items in the drawer of your desk? I don't
>
> This is assuming that a seldom used device is so close at hand.
I have a box in my living room storage unit that's where I keep my small
peripherals et al.
It's not that hard.
>
> > have a desk and yet I can put my hands on any of the smaller peripherals
> > I've got for my laptop in just a few seconds.
> >
> > But apparently, your memory is so poor you won't even remember...
> >
> > ...HAVING ONE!
> >
> > LOL
> >
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Alan Baker
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > In article <slrnhk7ch...@nomad.mishnet>,
> > JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2010-01-05, Ezekiel <not-...@the-zeke.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:alangbaker-7423E...@news.shawcable.com...
> >> >> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
> >> >> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
> >> >>
> >> >> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
> >> >> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
> >> >> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
> >> >
> >> > And all computers should have the big 25-pin serial port connnector and
> >> > the
> >> > massive "centronics" printer port as well. Who needs progress anyway.
> >>
> >> Getting rid of stuff that works perfectly well is not "progress".
> >
> > Punch cards worked "perfectly well", so did cassette tapes.
>
> Magnetic tape is alive and well actually.
Cassette tapes?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>
> >
> >>
> >> [deletia]
> >>
> >> Progress is not needing to emulate the original IBM PC in order to
> >> support such a connector.
> >
> > LOL
> >
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Hadron
> On 2010-01-05, Hadron <hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> writes:
>>
>>> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
>>>> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
>>>> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
>>>> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
>>>
>>> ...yes. A drawer where you will quickly forget about the device and
>>> lose it. Then the next time you need it you will be scrambling to figure
>>> out where it is or even if you have one.
>>
>> Yes. This IS how this idiot Jed thinks. Kelsey thinks the same way.
>
> ...the same things that make the device convenient also make it easy
> to lose. This is of course pretty obvious to anyone that isn't a
> moron.
What are you talking about? I really think you need to see a doctor.
So, you lose your door keys all the time? You dont use USB sticks?
My god you're an idiot.
> The fact that you don't want it as a part of your system obviously means
> that it's something that's intended to be hidden from view most of the
> time.
And, as usual, your last statement makes next to no sense.
>
> [deletia]
>
> The DVD drive and Windows driver CDs will fall into the same
> wormhole.
Huh????????????
Chris Ahlstrom
Use better compression, Zeke -- convert them to MIDI. :-D
--
If one cannot enjoy reading a book over and over again, there is no use
in reading it at all.
-- Oscar Wilde
Alan Baker
Hadron<hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> writes:
>
> > On 2010-01-05, Hadron <hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> writes:
> >>
> >>> On 2010-01-05, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In article <jih6k51l56b08um4m...@4ax.com>,
> >>>> Alec Lourmier <al...@abortedirc.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:11:07 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >How is "internal" an important part of having a floppy drive?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm sure the minimalists among us would find it important.
> >>>>
> >>>> Really? Why? Given that the amount of time you'll actually *use* such a
> >>>> device is extremely minimal, an external device that can be put in a
> >>>> drawer between uses would be the neatest option...
> >>>
> >>> ...yes. A drawer where you will quickly forget about the device and
> >>> lose it. Then the next time you need it you will be scrambling to figure
> >>> out where it is or even if you have one.
> >>
> >> Yes. This IS how this idiot Jed thinks. Kelsey thinks the same way.
> >
> > ...the same things that make the device convenient also make it easy
> > to lose. This is of course pretty obvious to anyone that isn't a
> > moron.
>
> What are you talking about? I really think you need to see a doctor.
>
> So, you lose your door keys all the time? You dont use USB sticks?
>
> My god you're an idiot.
Unbelievable, isn't it:
The only scenario where one could lose a device in this manner is if you
use it so seldom that you completely forget where you store all such
devices.
Which means he's advocating that it should be made internal...
...BECAUSE it's barely used.
LOL
Chris Ahlstrom
> In article <slrnhk7i8...@nomad.mishnet>,
> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>
>> Magnetic tape is alive and well actually.
>
> Cassette tapes?
>
> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=267
Let's take a state-of-the-art Tape backup system like the HP
Storageworks 1/8 Ultrium 960 Autoloader. I chose this particular device
because it represents one of the most cost effective Tape Backup
solutions with very high performance and capacity at a relatively low
price. Each Ultrium 960 Tape has a true capacity of 400 Gigabytes and
the HP Autoloader is capable of housing 8 Tapes at a time with a
read/write throughput of 80 megabytes per second. The lowest price I
found for Ultrium 960 Tape was $68 per Tape and the HP Autoloader was
$5000.
And that's from the shill-clown George Ou!
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You never have to change anything you got up in the middle of the night
to write.
-- Saul Bellow
Snit
57ba4709-295d-463f...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com on 1/5/10
4:09 PM:
You see those as "dying technology"?
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Snit
5d8b05b5-8f51-466e...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com on 1/5/10
4:50 PM:
> On Dec 29 2009, 9:38�am, Father Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com>
> wrote:
>
> LOL
>
>> I have come to the revelation that CDs and DVDs containing software are
>> objects o the Devil. �Dell is preventing the Devil from infesting homes
>> by not providing CDs or DVDs with the Operating system. �Dell's hard
>> drives are blessed and never fail! �The $0.001 saved on every machine by
>> not manufacturing plastic media for operating system reinstalls is
>> donated to good causes - we know this for a fact, after all Mike Dell is
>> such a stand up man. �He helps poor east indians feed their families by
>> using them for tech support. �Bless Mike Dell!
>
> Microsoft probably charged Dell a lot more than $0.001 for permission
> to create installation media. To Microsoft, the installation media
> meant that customers could install Linux then use the install media to
> install XP or Vista or Windows 7 as a VM application running under
> Linux.
>
> Of course, since Microsoft doesn't want to play nice with Linux, and
> is willing to force customers to pay $100 or more for an "upgrade kit"
> or "Full Version" so that they can install Windows on a larger hard
> drive, it shouldn't be long before the "disposable computers" fail,
> end up in the recycle shelf, and get picked up by the Linux users. If
> you figure that the average life span of Windows 7 is 9 months before
> the malware corrupts it, Linux should be making a rather dramatic
> entry in less than a year.
Nine months!?!? Often your posts show thought - but where did you get that
number from? Businesses generally keep machines at least three years - and
home users likely even longer (on average).
...
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Hadron
He got Roy to chuck them out of his arse the last time he was ferretting
around in there. Roy is on record as saying that Rexx is a "valuable"
and intelligent poster. He's a lying psycopath if you ask me. He simply
makes things up as he goes along.
Sandman
> > So what is ir about you and wanting computers with dying technology -
> > 3.5" floppy disks in 1998, and 802.11G, 10/100 ethernet, DDR2 RAM, and
> > Intel integrated graphics in 2010?
>
> you don't want a computer w/ 802.11g or 10/100 ethernet?
Of course not, I want one with 802.11n and gigabit.
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Sandman[.net]