Business week must be "MacZealots"...
Alan Baker
<http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/12/1211_most_influential/2.htm>
"The World's Most Influential Companies
2 of 29
Apple
Location: Cupertino, Calif.
Industry: Information Technology
Annual Sales: $24 billion
It�s the epitome of cool�a company that has gained a cultlike following
because it somehow manages to breathe new life into every category it
touches. From sleek laptops to the even sleeker iPhone, Apple (AAPL)
products are imaginative, irreverent, and pleasing to the eye. They�re
fun to use and have wreaked havoc on competitors. Consider how the iPod
and iTunes software created a new business model for the global music
industry. CEO Steve Jobs� initial pitch in 2001: Put 1,000 songs in your
pocket. Slowing iPod sales are just a sign of how ubiquitous the music
player has become."
But, since Edwin has told us that Apple is only a footnotes, I guess
this must be the "Insane Ramblings" of "MacZealots", huh?
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
Jim
> ...because they published this:
>
> <http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/12/1211_most_influential/2.htm>
>
> "The World's Most Influential Companies
>
> 2 of 29
>
> Apple
> Location: Cupertino, Calif.
> Industry: Information Technology
> Annual Sales: $24 billion
>
> It�s the epitome of cool�a company that has gained a cultlike following
> because it somehow manages to breathe new life into every category it
> touches. From sleek laptops to the even sleeker iPhone, Apple (AAPL)
> products are imaginative, irreverent, and pleasing to the eye. They�re
> fun to use and have wreaked havoc on competitors. Consider how the iPod
> and iTunes software created a new business model for the global music
> industry. CEO Steve Jobs� initial pitch in 2001: Put 1,000 songs in your
> pocket. Slowing iPod sales are just a sign of how ubiquitous the music
> player has become."
>
> But, since Edwin has told us that Apple is only a footnotes, I guess
> this must be the "Insane Ramblings" of "MacZealots", huh?
he'll say that design/good looks and the "cool factor" don't matter and aren't worth paying for, ugly is fine so long as
it contributes to being cheap and functional.
--
Jim
ed
> In article <alangbaker-4591CD.13424804012...@news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker
<snip>
> > It¹s the epitome of cool‹a company that has gained a cultlike following
> he'll say that design/good looks and the "cool factor" don't matter and aren't worth paying for, ugly is fine so long as
> it contributes to being cheap and functional.
do people really think of apple as a 'cool' company anymore, versus
being another large multi national company that makes nice products?
MuahMan
> do people really think of apple as a 'cool' company anymore, versus
> being another large multi national company that makes nice products?
Alan, Jim, and the Mactard that wrote this article apparently. Nobody
else.
Jim
Apple has maintained it's cache in industrial design circles.
Why have something ugly that you need to work with all day when you can have something nice.
--
Jim
Steve Carroll
> On Jan 4, 3:57 pm, Jim <j...@NOSpaMync.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <alangbaker-4591CD.13424804012...@news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker
> <snip>
> > > It¹s the epitome of cool‹a company that has gained a cultlike following
> ...
> > he'll say that design/good looks and the "cool factor" don't matter and aren't worth paying for, ugly is fine so long as
> > it contributes to being cheap and functional.
>
> do people really think of apple as a 'cool' company anymore,
I think they do... based on a couple things, one of them the 'breathe
new life' aspect mentioned.
> versus being another large multi national company that makes nice products?
That other companies may also make cool products doesn't make Apple an
uncool company. IMO as long as there is a pervasive behemoth like MS
around Apple probably won't be perceived as being as big as they
actually are by the masses. Apple's niche is being the 'other'
computer... to the point where Sony, Dell, HP and the rest all have
brand problems of a sort (thanks in large part to the behemoth).
ed
> In article <502fae42-909d-49f8-b1db-eb53c76bb...@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>, ed <n...@atwistedweb.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 4, 3:57 m, Jim <j...@NOSpaMync.net> wrote:
> > > In article <alangbaker-4591CD.13424804012...@news.shawcable.com>, Alan
> > > Baker
> > <snip>
> > > > It¹s the epitome of cool‹a company that has gained a cultlike following
> > ...
> > > he'll say that design/good looks and the "cool factor" don't matter and
> > > aren't worth paying for, ugly is fine so long as
> > > it contributes to being cheap and functional.
>
> > do people really think of apple as a 'cool' company anymore, versus
> > being another large multi national company that makes nice products?
>
> Apple has maintained it's cache in industrial design circles.
'cool' and 'cachet' are different. i don't think anyone other than
geeks (and maybe some niche areas like industrial design) really ever
think of computers as cool, and the 'cool' apple products were ipods
and iphones. which are just a bit too ubiquitous to be 'cool'- i'm
not sure anything so common *and* sold at wal-mart really qualify as
cool... <shrug>
> Why have something ugly that you need to work with all day when you can have something nice.
nice is not the same as cool. and ugly does not preclude cool.
Jim
Nothing more than your rhetoric games ed or semantics.
--
Jim
ed
> In article <9789e813-aaf7-4ca2-bc9a-df4b7d8c9...@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, ed
no, i'm really wondering if you guys really think apple is "cool."
that's very different that nice looking. i don't, but that's an
*opinion* jim, not a *game*.
MuahMan
They are trying to buy "cool". LOL