Dell crowned Bad Santa computer maker by angry customers
Mike
Edwin
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy to
give as a Christmas gift.
It would appear those such yourself who so often call these machines
cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
Alan Baker
wrote:
> On 12/31/2009 1:43 PM, Mike wrote:
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
>
>
> Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy to
> give as a Christmas gift.
The existence of a Dell gift card shows that?
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
>
> It would appear those such yourself who so often call these machines
> cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
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Father Justin
they're misguided - not mistaken.
They'll find out the hard way when they try to do a restore and the
"restore partition" is corrupted and Dell was too cheap to provide DVDs.
Mike
edwin shows all how lost he is with the real issues and how he manipulates articles to his own bias.
Nothing new going into the New Year.
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Steve de Mena
You can order DVDs when you order the system. Or make them yourself
when you get a new system.
Steve
KDT
And pay an extra $10 when you order them.
Steve de Mena
It's called "choice". That cost is built in to Mac systems.
Steve
Maurice
"KDT" <scarf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Dell always sent them to me, Free.
KDT
>
> - Show quoted text -
You mean the extra $1.00 it costs to create a DVD in bulk?
Mike
And WHY, should you have to pay for those DVD's OR have to make them yourself?
The answer: Dell's are CHEAP computers. It's what happens when your business model is based on volume, not quality first.
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Mike
Steve de Mena
> In article <m86dndesia77C6DW...@giganews.com>, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
>> Father Justin wrote:
>>> Edwin wrote:
>>>> On 12/31/2009 1:43 PM, Mike wrote:
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy to
>>>> give as a Christmas gift.
>>>>
>>>> It would appear those such yourself who so often call these machines
>>>> cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
>>> they're misguided - not mistaken.
>>> They'll find out the hard way when they try to do a restore and the
>>> "restore partition" is corrupted and Dell was too cheap to provide DVDs.
>> You can order DVDs when you order the system. Or make them yourself
>> when you get a new system.
>>
>> Steve
>
> And WHY, should you have to pay for those DVD's OR have to make them yourself?
You don't think you are paying for them when you get them for "free"
with a system?
Steve
Steve de Mena
If you want to play that game, let's compare Mac memory prices with
reality.
BTW I priced out a couple of random Dell systems and I didn't get an
option to pay for an OS disk so I assume one comes with the system.
Steve
Mike
You do, but you're not insulted by having to purchase an add-on for something so trivial in cost.
What's next for Dell? Making users purchase their own power cords?
This is what happens when you sell with the volume model and have to consistently trim costs to make any profit. That
has been the way of the Windows PC.
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Mike
Steve de Mena
I'm not sure where the $20 cost came from, but it appears they will
send you one set for free:
Steve
Steve de Mena
>
> You do, but you're not insulted by having to purchase an add-on for something so trivial in cost.
It seems to be only Dell PCs bought at retail stores (i.e. Wal*Mart,
Staples) that do not come with OS discs.
Steve
Maurice
"Steve de Mena" <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote in message
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All I ever had to do was call Dell and ask - they send them free - and, you
can load them on as many PC's as you wish.
It's sad when lies have to be used to promote Macs.
Chance Furlong
"Maurice" <Mauric...@aol.com> wrote:
> All I ever had to do was call Dell and ask, they send them free, and, you
> can load them on as many PC's as you wish.
You misspelled "PCs," zara.
Snit
on 1/2/10 9:20 AM:
You misspelled "Maurice," Chance.
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KDT
Dell Inspiron -- upgrade from 3GB -> 4GB DDR2 800Mhz (this is even
after you choose the Core 2 Duo with a 1066Mhz FSB) - $40
Apple MacBook -- upgrade from 2GB -> 4GB DDR3 1066Mhz - $100 ($50 GB)
So for 20% more per gigabyte you get RAM that is 33% faster.
Fa-groon
(in article <iNCdnWT9H8V2h6LW...@giganews.com>):
Mac memory, being the same DDR chips as PC memory, costs the same - unless,
of course, one, as an individual, is stupid enough to buy it from Apple.
Understand that Apple, like Dell and other PC builders offer upgrades and
build options to those who need to either buy their computers fully
configured to begin with (usually because they are financing the purchase
with a loan), or need to purchase after-sales upgrades from an already
qualified (by the corporate purchasing system) vendor. Apple and others
charge a premium for this. But also understand that there are hundreds of
alternatives to purchasing memory from the computer maker and in this case,
the prices are the same for the same memory.
Lloyd Parsons
<c9c6668a-dd7d-4af7...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
KDT <scarf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
When or if Apple makes it difficult to change/add ram to any of their
equipment, then the price Apple charges could be relevant. But my 89
year old mother could change the ram in an iMac or other Apple box.
Other than the Mini, it just isn't any kind of difficult.
Fa-groon
(in article
<c9c6668a-dd7d-4af7...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>):
> On Jan 2, 5:07ï¿œam, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>> KDT wrote:
>>> On Jan 1, 9:00 am, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>>>> KDT wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 1, 1:29 am, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Father Justin wrote:
>>>>>>> Edwin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/31/2009 1:43 PM, Mike wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
>>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy to
>>>>>>>> give as a Christmas gift.
>>>>>>>> It would appear those such yourself who so often call these machines
>>>>>>>> cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
>>>>>>> they're misguided - not mistaken.
>>>>>>> They'll find out the hard way when they try to do a restore and the
>>>>>>> "restore partition" is corrupted and Dell was too cheap to provide
>>>>>>> DVDs.
>>>>>> You can order DVDs when you order the system. ï¿œOr make them yourself
>>>>>> when you get a new system.
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>> And pay an extra $10 when you order them.
>>>> It's called "choice". ï¿œThat cost is built in to Mac systems.
>>
>>>> Steve- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> You mean the extra $1.00 it costs to create a DVD in bulk?
>>
>> If you want to play that game, let's compare Mac memory prices with
>> reality.
>>
>> BTW I priced out a couple of random Dell systems and I didn't get an
>> option to pay for an OS disk so I assume one comes with the system.
>>
>> Steve
>
> Dell Inspiron -- upgrade from 3GB -> 4GB DDR2 800Mhz (this is even
> after you choose the Core 2 Duo with a 1066Mhz FSB) - $40
>
> Apple MacBook -- upgrade from 2GB -> 4GB DDR3 1066Mhz - $100 ($50 GB)
>
> So for 20% more per gigabyte you get RAM that is 33% faster.
>
>
You're also buying more of it with that upgrade. Going from 2 to 4 Gb instead
of from 3 to 4. I do agree, however, that Apple has always been quite
niggardly with their base DRAM and have always been behind the rest of the
industry with regard to what ships in the basic configuration.
Mike
Regardless, YOU the purchaser has to do something to get what should be included.
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Maurice
"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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:)
Maurice
"Mike" <mi...@nononccfaba.org> wrote in message
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So now we have moved from "it costs money" to, it's free but "you has to do
something". Is that a fair approximation?
Also - do you accept KDT's lie?
Edwin
"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> In article <4Y8%m.23$Ef...@newsfe07.iad>, Edwin <thor...@juno.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/31/2009 1:43 PM, Mike wrote:
>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
>>
>>
>> Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy to
>> give as a Christmas gift.
>
> The existence of a Dell gift card shows that?
That question is your way of saying you couldn't understand the article.
> LOLOLOLOLOLOL
As if your question hadn't done enough to make a fool of you.
Mike
Regardless of your babbling, it costs at the least, time. Time is money to most folks(except the guys who build their
own Windows PC's) and then if you have to pay shipping, handling etc., it's not FREE.
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Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-728D6...@news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <4Y8%m.23$Ef...@newsfe07.iad>, Edwin <thor...@juno.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/31/2009 1:43 PM, Mike wrote:
> >> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy to
> >> give as a Christmas gift.
> >
> > The existence of a Dell gift card shows that?
>
> That question is your way of saying you couldn't understand the article.
But any possibility of you actually saying what you mean is non-existent.
>
> > LOLOLOLOLOLOL
>
> As if your question hadn't done enough to make a fool of you.
LOL
>
> >>
> >> It would appear those such yourself who so often call these machines
> >> cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
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"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
Edwin
> In article <wvn0n.1132$ap2...@newsfe18.iad>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-728D6...@news.shawcable.com...
>> > In article <4Y8%m.23$Ef...@newsfe07.iad>, Edwin <thor...@juno.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 12/31/2009 1:43 PM, Mike wrote:
>> >> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy to
>> >> give as a Christmas gift.
>> >
>> > The existence of a Dell gift card shows that?
>>
>> That question is your way of saying you couldn't understand the article.
>
> But any possibility of you actually saying what you mean is non-existent.
I said what I actually mean. Your failure to understand the article
precluded any chance of you understanding my response to the article.
>> > LOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>
>> As if your question hadn't done enough to make a fool of you.
>
> LOL
Alan makes a fool of himself yet again, no doubt thinking about Pixar as he
does so.
>>
>> >>
>> >> It would appear those such yourself who so often call these machines
>> >> cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
>
[snip of Alan's emotional scars]
Maurice
fuck you, asshole.
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-55F16...@news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <wvn0n.1132$ap2...@newsfe18.iad>,
> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-728D6...@news.shawcable.com...
> >> > In article <4Y8%m.23$Ef...@newsfe07.iad>, Edwin <thor...@juno.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 12/31/2009 1:43 PM, Mike wrote:
> >> >> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy to
> >> >> give as a Christmas gift.
> >> >
> >> > The existence of a Dell gift card shows that?
> >>
> >> That question is your way of saying you couldn't understand the article.
> >
> > But any possibility of you actually saying what you mean is non-existent.
>
> I said what I actually mean. Your failure to understand the article
> precluded any chance of you understanding my response to the article.
Nope. As usual, you've avoided saying anything.
>
> >> > LOLOLOLOLOLOL
> >>
> >> As if your question hadn't done enough to make a fool of you.
> >
> > LOL
>
> Alan makes a fool of himself yet again, no doubt thinking about Pixar as he
> does so.
LOL
>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> It would appear those such yourself who so often call these machines
> >> >> cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
> >
> [snip of Alan's emotional scars]
LOL
Maurice
"Mike" <mi...@nononccfaba.org> wrote in message
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Edwin
> In article <G0s0n.2042$5m....@newsfe12.iad>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-55F16...@news.shawcable.com...
>> > In article <wvn0n.1132$ap2...@newsfe18.iad>,
>> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:alangbaker-728D6...@news.shawcable.com...
>> >> > In article <4Y8%m.23$Ef...@newsfe07.iad>, Edwin <thor...@juno.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 12/31/2009 1:43 PM, Mike wrote:
>> >> >> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/dell_delays_holiday_card/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for pointing out many people consider a Dell computer worthy
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> give as a Christmas gift.
>> >> >
>> >> > The existence of a Dell gift card shows that?
>> >>
>> >> That question is your way of saying you couldn't understand the
>> >> article.
>> >
>> > But any possibility of you actually saying what you mean is
>> > non-existent.
>>
>> I said what I actually mean. Your failure to understand the article
>> precluded any chance of you understanding my response to the article.
>
> Nope. As usual, you've avoided saying anything.
Your inability to comprehend does not constitute a failure to say anything
on my part.
>>
>> >> > LOLOLOLOLOLOL
>> >>
>> >> As if your question hadn't done enough to make a fool of you.
>> >
>> > LOL
>>
>> Alan makes a fool of himself yet again, no doubt thinking about Pixar as
>> he
>> does so.
>
> LOL
>
>>
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It would appear those such yourself who so often call these
>> >> >> machines
>> >> >> cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
>> >
>> [snip of Alan's emotional scars]
>
> LOL
Those are never going to heal if you keep picking at them.
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Tell me: can you at least underline what you claim is you saying
something germane?
LOL
>
> >>
> >> >> > LOLOLOLOLOLOL
> >> >>
> >> >> As if your question hadn't done enough to make a fool of you.
> >> >
> >> > LOL
> >>
> >> Alan makes a fool of himself yet again, no doubt thinking about Pixar as
> >> he
> >> does so.
> >
> > LOL
> >
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It would appear those such yourself who so often call these
> >> >> >> machines
> >> >> >> cheap junk are sadly mistaken.
> >> >
> >> [snip of Alan's emotional scars]
> >
> > LOL
>
> Those are never going to heal if you keep picking at them.
LOL
Edwin
I see no reason to cater to your poor comprehension. Go take a remedial
reading class.
[snip]
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Admitting defeat again, Edwin? So sad for you.
Edwin
Proving you lack reading comprehension again, Alan? How embarrassing for
you.
Maybe you want to mention Pixar again?
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Why do you keep mentioning Pixar?
Chance Furlong
Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article <32u1n.17510$AO4....@newsfe02.iad>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > Maybe you want to mention Pixar again?
>
> Why do you keep mentioning Pixar?
Because Eddie is jealous of Steve Jobs' success.
Edwin
You're the one who needs to answer that question.
Edwin
"Chance Furlong" <T-B...@megakatcity.com> wrote in message
news:T-Bone-3282C5....@news.giganews.com...
Sure, I'm jealous because Steve Jobs has a fan who posts under the name of a
kid's cartoon character.
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
I'll answer it: I don't keep mentioning it.
Edwin
I didn't ask you to lie about it. Try again.
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Why? I've told the truth and you're making up bullshit...
...so it's business as usual.
Edwin
No you haven't.
> and you're making up bullshit...
If my name is Alan Baker.
> ...so it's business as usual.
For you.
Want to mention Pixar again?
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > and you're making up bullshit...
>
> If my name is Alan Baker.
So obviously your name is Alan Baker, and I'm assuming that you only
sign your posts with "Edwin" since there already is another Alan Baker
in the newsgroup?
I could have sworn your name was Michael Glasser, though.
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Edwin
"Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
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You've obviously had too much Surstr�mming.
Snit
1/12/10 10:21 AM:
The paranoia in CSMA is amazing.
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Sandman
"Snit Jr" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> > and you're making up bullshit...
> >>
> >> If my name is Alan Baker.
> >
> > So obviously your name is Alan Baker, and I'm assuming that you only
> > sign your posts with "Edwin" since there already is another Alan Baker
> > in the newsgroup?
> >
> > I could have sworn your name was Michael Glasser, though.
>
> You've obviously had too much Surstr�mming.
Whatever you say, Alan... uh, Michael... Can I just call you Snit?
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Edwin
*shrug*
Sure, why not, Loopy?
Being certifiably insane does get you lots of leeway.
>
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Snit
> Being certifiably insane does get you lots of leeway.
That should be your .sig.
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Sandman
"Snit" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > Whatever you say, Alan... uh, Michael... Can I just call you Snit?
>
> Sure, why not,
Ok, thanks, Snit.
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