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Alan Baker

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May 19, 2013, 4:35:40 AM5/19/13
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...at least not according to our trolls.

But do you know you disagrees?

Google.

'"This is something we think about a lot," Dave Burke, Google's Android
engineering director, said of fragmentation. Part of the problem, Burke
said, lies in the fact that Android device vendors are able to take the
open source code and create their own Board Support Packages — specific
implementations of an operating system — to ensure compatibility between
their devices and a certain build of Android. '

<http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/18/google-engineers-talk-fragment
ation-how-to-make-android-work-for-emerging-markets>

Do you get that trolls: The ENGINEERING DIRECTOR of Android says that
fragmentation exists and is a "problem".

But be sure to complain about the source and that your poorly designed
software can't handle the link!

:-)

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

jay birdsong

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May 19, 2013, 10:26:01 AM5/19/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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>...at least not according to our trolls.

>But do you know you disagrees?

You does?

>Google.

>'"This is something we think about a lot," Dave Burke, Google's
>Android
>engineering director, said of fragmentation. Part of the problem,
>Burke
>said, lies in the fact that Android device vendors are able to take
>the
>open source code and create their own Board Support Packages —
>specific
>implementations of an operating system — to ensure compatibility
>between
>their devices and a certain build of Android. '


Why is the text all broken?? Can't you get that POS working right?

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Nashton

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May 19, 2013, 8:39:33 PM5/19/13
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Seems as if Sandflea has been taking English remedial lessons from bakr...

jay birdsong

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May 20, 2013, 8:12:12 AM5/20/13
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"Nashton" wrote in message news:knbrbs$bet$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
I don't see his posts any longer. They're just too stupid to waste
time reading. He is keeping Chance Furtongue company in the KF.

Alan Baker

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May 20, 2013, 9:11:17 AM5/20/13
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In article <knd3n9$efs$1...@dont-email.me>,
You mean he's beaten you down too often and you just can't take it...

jay birdsong

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May 20, 2013, 9:36:14 AM5/20/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <knd3n9$efs$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Nashton" wrote in message news:knbrbs$bet$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> On 5/19/2013 11:26 AM, jay birdsong wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-F60B2...@news.shawcable.net...
> >
> >> ...at least not according to our trolls.
> >
> >> But do you know you disagrees?
> >
> > You does?
> >
> >> Google.
> >
> >> '"This is something we think about a lot," Dave Burke, Google's
> >> Android
> >> engineering director, said of fragmentation. Part of the problem,
> >> Burke
> >> said, lies in the fact that Android device vendors are able to
> >> take
> >> the
> >> open source code and create their own Board Support Packages
> >> â€â€
> >> specific
> >> implementations of an operating system  to ensure
> >> compatibility
> >> between
> >> their devices and a certain build of Android. '
> >
> >
> > Why is the text all broken?? Can't you get that POS working
> > right?
> >
> > snip babble.
> >
> > snip dumb cunt sig.
>
> >Seems as if Sandflea has been taking English remedial lessons from
> >bakr...
>
> I don't see his posts any longer. They're just too stupid to waste
> time reading. He is keeping Chance Furtongue company in the KF.

>You mean he's beaten you down too often and you just can't take it...

Yes, something that a loser such as you is just unable to do, no
matter how hard you try. Now run along and set up an iPad.

>:-)

oIo

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Sandman

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May 20, 2013, 9:59:08 AM5/20/13
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In article <knd3n9$efs$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> >Seems as if Sandflea has been taking English remedial lessons from
> >bakr...
>
> I don't see his posts any longer. They're just too stupid to waste
> time reading. He is keeping Chance Furtongue company in the KF.

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!

My best win ever :)



--
Sandman[.net]

Tommy Troll

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May 20, 2013, 2:02:12 PM5/20/13
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On Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:35:40 AM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
> ...at least not according to our trolls.
<SNIP>

And iOS is not fragmented? Try to update your older iPhone, or your older Mac for that matter.

Alan Baker

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May 20, 2013, 2:12:46 PM5/20/13
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In article <knd8kr$9vq$1...@dont-email.me>,
Nah.

I'm too busy setting up a race car.

Alan Baker

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May 20, 2013, 2:14:09 PM5/20/13
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In article <bfc66ea1-bb0f-4b3a...@googlegroups.com>,
You think that's the same thing?

LOL

jay birdsong

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May 20, 2013, 2:28:09 PM5/20/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <knd8kr$9vq$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> > >Seems as if Sandflea has been taking English remedial lessons
> > >from
> > >bakr...
> >
> > I don't see his posts any longer. They're just too stupid to waste
> > time reading. He is keeping Chance Furtongue company in the KF.
>
> >You mean he's beaten you down too often and you just can't take
> >it...
>
> Yes, something that a loser such as you is just unable to do, no
> matter how hard you try. Now run along and set up an iPad.

>Nah.

>I'm too busy setting up a race car.

"Race car"!!! BWAHAAAHAAAAHAAAAAAHARHARHARHAR. More like "pig in a
poke". LOL.

>:-)

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jay birdsong

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May 20, 2013, 2:38:43 PM5/20/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <bfc66ea1-bb0f-4b3a...@googlegroups.com>,
Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:35:40 AM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
> > ...at least not according to our trolls.
> <SNIP>
>
> And iOS is not fragmented? Try to update your older iPhone, or your
> older Mac
> for that matter.

>You think that's the same thing?

BWAHAAAHAAAHAHARHARHARHARHAR - yer killin us.

>LOL

oIo

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KDT

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May 20, 2013, 5:30:18 PM5/20/13
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Tell me this.

How many iOS devices released in the last four years can't be upgraded to the latest OS?

Answer: Out of 4 generations of iPhones and five iPads. Only one can't be upgraded to IOS 6.

How many new iOS devices being shipped today aren't shipped with the latest OS?

Answer: 0

sms

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May 20, 2013, 10:01:46 PM5/20/13
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On 5/19/2013 1:35 AM, Alan Baker wrote:

> Do you get that trolls: The ENGINEERING DIRECTOR of Android says that
> fragmentation exists and is a "problem".

It is somewhat annoying to move between Android devices and have such
differences. It's also annoying that there are so many poor Android
applications on the Google Play store.

Now if only Apple had a way to capitalize on the Android fragmentation.

If everything else was equal then this difference might be enough to
persuade customers to choose iOS over Android. Unfortunately there are
many other considerations that go into choosing an ecosystem. Apple has
the advantage in some, but Android, by the sheer number of choices in
hardware and the lack of the walled garden, has an advantage that's
tough to overcome. There are several Android apps that I use on a daily
basis for which there are no iOS equivalents, and in most cases there
can't be an iOS equivalent because iOS makes it not possible for a
developer to write such apps (in some cases these apps are available on
jailbroken iOS devices).

Alan Baker

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May 21, 2013, 12:39:36 AM5/21/13
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In article <kndpo4$i7o$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-5BC96...@news.datemas.de...
>
> In article <knd8kr$9vq$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > >Seems as if Sandflea has been taking English remedial lessons
> > > >from
> > > >bakr...
> > >
> > > I don't see his posts any longer. They're just too stupid to waste
> > > time reading. He is keeping Chance Furtongue company in the KF.
> >
> > >You mean he's beaten you down too often and you just can't take
> > >it...
> >
> > Yes, something that a loser such as you is just unable to do, no
> > matter how hard you try. Now run along and set up an iPad.
>
> >Nah.
>
> >I'm too busy setting up a race car.
>
> "Race car"!!! BWAHAAAHAAAAHAAAAAAHARHARHARHAR. More like "pig in a
> poke". LOL.

And you know this... ...how?

Nashton

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May 21, 2013, 10:16:37 AM5/21/13
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It's a non-issue.
Most people don't care, plain and simple.

And the proof? Android is crushing iOS and it's getting worse.

Alan Baker

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May 21, 2013, 11:22:17 AM5/21/13
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In article <knfvk3$td2$3...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:
LOL

SMS

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May 21, 2013, 1:13:14 PM5/21/13
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On 5/21/2013 7:16 AM, Nashton wrote:

> It's a non-issue.
> Most people don't care, plain and simple.
>
> And the proof? Android is crushing iOS and it's getting worse.

It is an issue. Look at why so many people do choose iOS. It's
consistent. It's safe. It's an excellent user interface. The learning
curve is a little shorter for a new iOS device if you have an existing
iOS device. If Google could do something about the fragmentation then
they probably could gain even more market share.

What Apple needs to do is to stop being a follower when it comes to
vital features. They took a very long time to come out with an LTE
iPhone and when they did they failed to allow simultaneous voice and
data on the largest carrier in the U.S.. They are late with a larger
screen iPhone. Being late with NFC is no big deal since it's not used
much yet, but they'll have to add it soon.

What I really want for Android is a music management system that can
rival iTunes.

Laszlo Lebrun

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May 21, 2013, 4:43:33 PM5/21/13
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On 19.05.2013 10:35, Alan Baker wrote:
>... that your poorly designed software can't handle the link!

A wrong way driver? I see plenty of them!
(Baker)

If something is poorly designed: it's MT-NW!
Sooo crappily designed, that its author gave up and nobody maintains it
any more since 2008.
It breaks URLs, and kills UTF.
Anybody with an ounce of common sense would have dropped it long time ago.




--
One computer and three operating systems, not the other way round.
One wife and many hotels, not the other way round ! ;-)

Laszlo Lebrun

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May 21, 2013, 4:47:34 PM5/21/13
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On 21.05.2013 04:01, sms wrote:
> Unfortunately there are many other considerations that go into choosing
> an ecosystem. Apple has the advantage in some, but Android, by the sheer
> number of choices in hardware and the lack of the walled garden, has an
> advantage that's tough to overcome.

It's not tough to overcome, it's even pretty easy.
But it would need an openness that's not included in the genes of
Cuppertino.

Laszlo Lebrun

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May 21, 2013, 4:53:39 PM5/21/13
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On 21.05.2013 19:13, SMS wrote:
> What I really want for Android is a music management system that can
> rival iTunes.

In stupidity? Please NO!

jay birdsong

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May 21, 2013, 3:59:47 PM5/21/13
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"Laszlo Lebrun" wrote in message
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On 19.05.2013 10:35, Alan Baker wrote:
>... that your poorly designed software can't handle the link!

>A wrong way driver? I see plenty of them!
>(Baker)

>If something is poorly designed: it's MT-NW!
>Sooo crappily designed, that its author gave up and nobody maintains
>it any more since 2008.
>It breaks URLs, and kills UTF.
>Anybody with an ounce of common sense would have dropped it long time
>ago.

It also breaks text - something Alwin can't deny nor fix so he
attempts to ignore it.

Alwin likes to use it to feed into his Masochistic Narcissism. He is
a sad little nobody who is on an inheritance deathwatch.




Alan Baker

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May 22, 2013, 12:10:46 PM5/22/13
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In article <kngjfs$lpe$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Laszlo Lebrun" wrote in message
> news:kngf90$ori$1...@tota-refugium.de...
>
> On 19.05.2013 10:35, Alan Baker wrote:
> >... that your poorly designed software can't handle the link!
>
> >A wrong way driver? I see plenty of them!
> >(Baker)
>
> >If something is poorly designed: it's MT-NW!
> >Sooo crappily designed, that its author gave up and nobody maintains
> >it any more since 2008.
> >It breaks URLs, and kills UTF.
> >Anybody with an ounce of common sense would have dropped it long time
> >ago.
>
> It also breaks text - something Alwin can't deny nor fix so he
> attempts to ignore it.

LOL

"also", Michael?

I guess it should come as no surprise that you wouldn't know what Laszlo
meant by "kills UTF".

;-)

jay birdsong

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May 22, 2013, 1:20:21 PM5/22/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <kngjfs$lpe$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Laszlo Lebrun" wrote in message
> news:kngf90$ori$1...@tota-refugium.de...
>
> On 19.05.2013 10:35, Alan Baker wrote:
> >... that your poorly designed software can't handle the link!
>
> >A wrong way driver? I see plenty of them!
> >(Baker)
>
> >If something is poorly designed: it's MT-NW!
> >Sooo crappily designed, that its author gave up and nobody
> >maintains
> >it any more since 2008.
> >It breaks URLs, and kills UTF.
> >Anybody with an ounce of common sense would have dropped it long
> >time
> >ago.
>
> It also breaks text - something Alwin can't deny nor fix so he
> attempts to ignore it.

>LOL

>"also", Michael?

>I guess it should come as no surprise that you wouldn't know what
>Laszlo
>meant by "kills UTF".

So now I know. I guess that qualifies me to fix iPads, like you.


How's the deathwatch progressing? One day closer to payday.

>;-)

oIo


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sms

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May 22, 2013, 1:22:40 PM5/22/13
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On 5/21/2013 1:47 PM, Laszlo Lebrun wrote:
> On 21.05.2013 04:01, sms wrote:
>> Unfortunately there are many other considerations that go into choosing
>> an ecosystem. Apple has the advantage in some, but Android, by the sheer
>> number of choices in hardware and the lack of the walled garden, has an
>> advantage that's tough to overcome.
>
> It's not tough to overcome, it's even pretty easy.
> But it would need an openness that's not included in the genes of
> Cuppertino.

The real problem is that there is no evidence that increasing market
share would increase overall revenue.

Adding the missing hardware features is pretty easy and the additional
parts and manufacturing cost would likely more than be made up by the
increased sales. But you have to look at the big picture and take into
account increased support costs, and increased warranty repair costs.

There's also the danger of adding the missing features too quickly and
disrupting the replacement cycle.

Alan Baker

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May 23, 2013, 2:42:58 AM5/23/13
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In article <kniuh1$amj$1...@dont-email.me>,
Sorry, but I've never fixed an iPad. That's just another of your
fantasies.

jay birdsong

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May 23, 2013, 8:13:57 AM5/23/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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Sorry, my bad. It should have been; "I guess that qualifies you to
set up iPads in the dead of night".

Alan Baker

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May 23, 2013, 10:49:17 AM5/23/13
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In article <knl0ue$407$1...@dont-email.me>,
Haven't had to do that for anyone either, Michael. Sorry.

jay birdsong

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May 23, 2013, 11:08:57 AM5/23/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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Ummm..... you are a bald faced liar, Dick.

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