Hey LIAR-BOY (OT)

[Thomas E.]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxuJGTDTmSZ1YU9xMTRkanEyOFk/view?usp=docslist_apihere is Tom tonight?

Where is Tom tonight?

[Thomas E.]

On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxuJGTDTmSZ1YU9xMTRkanEyOFk/view?usp=docslist_apihere is Tom tonight?
>
> Where is Tom tonight?

Please, please, please challenge where I was Tuesday night!

[Sandman]

In article <c140fd61-0bd0-4dfe...@googlegroups.com>, Thomas E.
wrote:

> Please, please, please challenge where I was Tuesday night!

Translation: "Please please please give me attention! I need it! Please post a
reply!!"

--
Sandman

[Thomas E.]

Translation, please call me a liar!

[-hh]

Sandman wrote:
> Thomas E. wrote:
>>
>> Please, please, please challenge where I was Tuesday night!
>
> Translation: "Please please please give me attention! I need it!
> Please post a reply!!"

Indeed, that's all this is from Tom Elam: an attention deficit disorder.

For Tuesday? ...a pear cider, crawfish soup, & lake trout.


-hh

[Thomas E.]

A nice Pinot Gris instead of pear cider and I'm in.

[Sandman]

In article <04df6279-50af-4e3e...@googlegroups.com>, Thomas E.
wrote:

> > > Thomas E.:

> > > Please, please, please challenge where I was Tuesday night!
> >

> > Sandman:

> > Translation: "Please please please give me attention! I need it!
> > Please post a reply!!" -- Sandman
>
> Translation, please call me a liar!

It's like you read usenet, and then think - oh yeah? Well, how about this!? and
plan on posting a harsh response full of witty comments and sarcastic insults,
but somewhere on the way you run head first into a concrete wall and we're left
with... this. I feel lika I would insult pathetic people by lumping you in with
them.

--
Sandman

[-hh]

Tom wrote:

> -hh wrote:
>> For Tuesday? ...a pear cider, crawfish soup, & lake trout.
>

> A nice Pinot Gris instead of pear cider and I'm in.

Don't knock it until you've at least tried it...IIRC 4.7% ABF.
Besides, going local is also not a bad idea, particularly with
local sourced foods...

-hh

[Thomas E.]

I planned on posting links to images of my airline boarding passes and game ticket. Boo hiss, nobody bit. It was a good game though. Royals had a chance to tie or win in the bottom of the 9th, but no-go.

BTW, lika is not a word. I though Macs had OS-wide spell checking.

[Alan Baker]

No one has been more about knocking what he hasn't tried on this group
that our Liar-boy, Tommy...

:-)

[-hh]

Alan wrote:
>, -hh said:
>> Tom wrote:
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>> For Tuesday? ...a pear cider, crawfish soup, & lake trout.
>>>
>>> A nice Pinot Gris instead of pear cider and I'm in.
>>
>> Don't knock it until you've at least tried it...IIRC 4.7% ABF.
>> Besides, going local is also not a bad idea, particularly with
>> local sourced foods...
>

>No one has been more about knocking what he hasn't tried on this group
>that our Liar-boy, Tommy...

It reminds me of a guy I knew whose idea of "good cookin'" was McDonalds
and Pizza Hut...while traveling on a business account to Brussels. There's
obviously then such a thing as being irrationally set in one's ways, whereas
others can actually offer an informed opinion of, say, Swedish Meatballs vs.
their Neighbors.

-hh

[Thomas E.]

Bruxelles! Moules marinière avec pomme frites et biere est mon préféré

In Japan - Sushimi!
In Argentina/Brazil - Churrascaria!
In Korea - grilled beef with garlic cloves
In Italy - local pizza with Parma ham and a nice white wine
In Spain - tapas, any tapas
In China - I'll try about anything but fermented bean curd

[Thomas E.]

I tried Mac. A long time ago. I once tried fermented bean curd too.

[Tim]

In article <5c6a8b32-2d2f-4439...@googlegroups.com>,

and raved as to how good it was compared tot he window system you had
been running. then you now x-wife took it away from you and you're back
to bitching.

[Thomas E.]

Been a long time ago, but I sold that dog of an iMac on E-Bay before the divorce was final, and she bought a Dell desktop, that I paid for. She now has an iPad. My daughter got it for her.

[Thomas E.]

On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 3:35:55 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:

BTW, please proofread your posts. Your punctuation, spelling and grammar suck.

[Thomas E.]

I forgot kimchi in Korea.

[-hh]

Tom wrote:
> Bruxelles! Moules marinière avec pomme frites et biere est mon préféré

A "must do" only one, as it is a cliché for that city, and limiting.

> In Japan - Sushimi!
>In Argentina/Brazil - Churrascaria!
>In Korea - grilled beef with garlic cloves
>In Italy - local pizza with Parma ham and a nice white wine
>In Spain - tapas, any tapas
>In China - I'll try about anything but fermented bean curd

That list is getting old & tired. No wonder you're looking for BX
discounts these days...

-hh

[Thomas E.]

Those are only my favorites. My traveling companions referred to me as the "political refugee," as in eating everything in sight. OMG, some of that food was unbelievable. There was this little seafood place in Denpasar, and the street vendors in Bangkok and KL, a little basement restaurant in Montecatini, a cook-your-own place in Taipei, the Blue Plate bistro in Avon CO, seafood in Cebu, a Kobe teppanyaki, the incredible meal in a Japanese roykan somewhere in north-central Honshu, baby pig entree in Madrid, and more.....so much more down that incredible memory lane.

:)

[ed]

On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 2:33:24 PM UTC-7, Thomas E. wrote:
>...a cook-your-own place in Taipei

? like korean bbq or shabu shabu? or something else?

...

[Walter Myer]

On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 2:47:41 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:

Which reminds me of a guy, (a Swedish Meatball in fact), who couldn't find, "good cheap" food in Orland.

[Walter Myer]

On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 3:16:37 AM UTC-4, Sandman wrote:

In that case, I would guess that you would be insulting yourself also.

[Thomas E.]

It was a "Mongolian grill." You picked out all the ingredients from a wall of food and cooked it yourself on a big flat steel plate thing. Wow, was that good! There was a guy that gave advice in seasonings and cooking time.

[-hh]

Tom wrote:
> Those are only my favorites. My traveling companions referred
> to me as the "political refugee," as in eating everything in sight.

So except for Colorado, they're all from over a decade ago.

> OMG, some of that food was unbelievable. There was this

> little seafood place .... so much more down that incredible
> memory lane.

Food & drink is invariably part of local culture...which is why you
weren't interested in it unless you had your Pino Grigio wine...
Check!

-hh

[Sandman]

In article <aad9a1de-63bd-4c67...@googlegroups.com>, Thomas E.
wrote:

> > Sandman:

> > In article
> > <04df6279-50af-4e3e...@googlegroups.com>, Thomas E.
>

> > > > > Thomas E.:
> > > > > Please, please, please challenge where I was
> > > > > Tuesday night!
> > > >
> > > > Sandman:
> > > > Translation: "Please please please give me attention!
> > > > I need it! Please post a reply!!" -- Sandman
> > >

> > > Thomas E.:

> > > Translation, please call me a liar!
> >

> > Sandman:

> > It's like you read usenet, and then think - oh yeah? Well, how
> > about this!? and plan on posting a harsh response full of witty
> > comments and sarcastic insults, but somewhere on the way you run
> > head first into a concrete wall and we're left with... this. I
> > feel lika I would insult pathetic people by lumping you in with
> > them. -- Sandman
>
> I planned on posting links to images of my airline boarding passes
> and game ticket.

Yeah, that would have been even more hilariously pathetic.

> Boo hiss, nobody bit. It was a good game though.
> Royals had a chance to tie or win in the bottom of the 9th, but
> no-go.

> BTW, lika is not a word. I though Macs had OS-wide spell checking.

You "though" that, did you?

Ironic.

Another failed troll attempt from wannabe Tom.

--
Sandman

[Sandman]

In article <e2f9a6c3-e9b8-4b5b...@googlegroups.com>, Walter Myer

wrote:

> > > > > Thomas E.:
> > > > > Please, please, please challenge where I was
> > > > > Tuesday night!
> > > >
> > > > Sandman:
> > > > Translation: "Please please please give me attention!
> > > > I need it! Please post a reply!!" -- Sandman
> > >

> > > Thomas E.:

> > > Translation, please call me a liar!
> >

> > Sandman:

> > It's like you read usenet, and then think - oh yeah? Well, how
> > about this!? and plan on posting a harsh response full of witty
> > comments and sarcastic insults, but somewhere on the way you run
> > head first into a concrete wall and we're left with... this. I
> > feel lika I would insult pathetic people by lumping you in with
> > them.
>

> No, we're ok with it

Ok.

--
Sandman

[Thomas E.]

Yeah, pretty much. The overall success rate lately has been pretty good though!

[Tim]

In article <421d74de-662f-414b...@googlegroups.com>,

poor baby, doesn't like my punctuation, spelling and grammar. to f'in
bad!

[Thomas E.]

Illiterate bozo. That's "too f'n bad"

[Sandman]

In article <4e4eb755-f877-44cd...@googlegroups.com>, Thomas E.
wrote:

> > > > > > > Thomas E.:
> > > > > > > Please, please, please challenge where I was
> > > > > > > Tuesday night!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sandman:
> > > > > > Translation: "Please please please give me
> > > > > > attention! I need it! Please post a reply!!" -- Sandman
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas E.:
> > > > > Translation, please call me a liar!
> > > >
> > > > Sandman:
> > > > It's like you read usenet, and then think - oh yeah?
> > > > Well, how about this!? and plan on posting a harsh response
> > > > full of witty comments and sarcastic insults, but somewhere
> > > > on the way you run head first into a concrete wall and we're
> > > > left with... this. I feel lika I would insult pathetic people
> > > > by lumping you in with them. -- Sandman
> > >

> > > Thomas E.:

> > > I planned on posting links to images of my airline boarding
> > > passes and game ticket.
> >

> > Sandman:

> > Yeah, that would have been even more hilariously pathetic.
>

> > > Thomas E.:

> > > Boo hiss, nobody bit. It was a good game though. Royals had a
> > > chance to tie or win in the bottom of the 9th, but no-go. BTW,
> > > lika is not a word. I though Macs had OS-wide spell checking.
> >

> > Sandman:

> > You "though" that, did you? Ironic. Another failed troll attempt
> > from wannabe Tom.
>

> Yeah, pretty much. The overall success rate lately has been pretty
> good though!

Yeah, you keep thinking that, but your supposed "troll attempts" have been
hilarious failures where everyone have been laughing their asses off at your
ignorance and incompetence. I know that for you wannabe trolls, the only way you
could possibly feel good about yourself is if you're measuring success by number
of replies, but you have to also ignore that *content* of those replies as well.
A real troll knows a lot better than that.

--
Sandman

[Sandman]

In article <c1ba6d4a-77f3-4e64...@googlegroups.com>, Thomas E.
wrote:

> > > > > Thomas E.:

> > > > > A long time ago. I once tried fermented bean curd too.
> > > >
> > > BTW, please proofread your posts. Your punctuation, spelling and
> > > grammar suck.
> >

> > Tim:

> > poor baby, doesn't like my punctuation, spelling and grammar. to
> > f'in bad!
>
> Illiterate bozo. That's "too f'n bad"

At least that's what Tom Elam "though".

--
Sandman

[Walter Myer]

You're being too hard on Dim.

Dim is the CSMA resident IDIOT. He beats the other Idiot's by a small margin.

[Tim]

In article <2259b2b7-0a54-4e6a...@googlegroups.com>,

poor little basement bound michael trying to pass his 'job' of being
the CSMA village idiot off to another person. so quaint.

[Walter Myer]

Poor Idiot, Dim. To stoopid to do anything other than role reversal.

BTW, Dim; how is your job of picking cat shit out of playground sandboxes going? Did you get that promotion to licking public urinals clean yet?

[Tim]

In article <bec89ff0-fb55-445c...@googlegroups.com>,

poor little michael, unable to face reality, runs away again. so
typical.

>
> BTW, Dim; how is your job of picking cat shit out of playground sandboxes going? Did you get that promotion to licking public urinals clean yet?

poor michael, passing out his job description and trying to make like
it belongs to other people. run michael, run

[-hh]

No woories, Tim: "Walter" and Tom are just trying to 'poison the well' to try to drag others down to their own level.

In the meantime, the weather's nice & clear this AM in Edinborough... and the odd news this AM are the high number of cell-wifi links of iPhone users in the restaurant at breakfast.


-hh

[Walter Myer]

Poor Dim. Stuck using role reversal, the defense of Losers.

[Walter Myer]

On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 4:04:29 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
> No woories, Tim: "Walter" and Tom are just trying to 'poison the well' to try to drag others down to their own level.

"woories"??!! WTF is "woories"?

Chimp looking for attention?

>
> In the meantime, the weather's nice & clear this AM in Edinborough... and the odd news this AM are the high number of cell-wifi links of iPhone users in the restaurant at breakfast.

You either have no life, or are bullshiting that you're in "Edinborough."

WTF is "Edinborough"? On your home planet.

Now run along and play with yourself, or Dim, Chim

[Alan Baker]

True.

And I've got another day of racing!


:-)

[-hh]

Alan wrote:
> -hh said:
>> No woories, Tim: "Walter" and Tom are just trying to 'poison the well'
>> to try to drag others down to their own level.
>
>> In the meantime, the weather's nice & clear this AM in Edinborough...
>> and the odd news this AM are the high number of cell-wifi links of
>> iPhone users in the restaurant at breakfast.
>

> True.
> And I've got another day of racing!

and Walter is whining about how I misseplled Edinburg, Scotland.

-hh

[Thomas E.]

You call finishing 45.241 seconds behind the leader in a 2 car FF event "racing?" Your best lap time both days was the slowest in the OW events, even including the DNF cars. Oh well, finishing last is finishing!

Hope you were just taking somebody for a ride, because your "engine builder" just took you for an expensive one.

Better check that oil screen again too.

[Walter Myer]

Golly, Chimp; It's, "misspelled" not "misseplled".

Also, It's "Edinburgh", not Edinburg: That's twice now. Care to try for three?

Are you sure you're even there, Genius? What kind of Idiot goes on vacation, and posts here? Obviously, you. BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAA.

Golly, you sure are a funny, little monkey.

Are you done barking at the moon?

ROTFLMAO

[Walter Myer]

On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 4:46:18 PM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 9:22:57 AM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
> > On 2015-09-07 08:04:27 +0000, -hh said:
> >
> > > No woories, Tim: "Walter" and Tom are just trying to 'poison the well'
> > > to try to drag others down to their own level.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, the weather's nice & clear this AM in Edinborough...
> > > and the odd news this AM are the high number of cell-wifi links of
> > > iPhone users in the restaurant at breakfast.
> > >
> > >
> > > -hh
> >
> > True.
> >
> > And I've got another day of racing!
> >
> >
> > :-)
>
> You call finishing 45.241 seconds behind the leader in a 2 car FF event "racing?" Your best lap time both days was the slowest in the OW events, even including the DNF cars. Oh well, finishing last is finishing!

A mile and a quarter behind????? No wins, or even close to one, in two years?

Sad.

[-hh]

On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 5:58:06 PM UTC-4, sock "Walter Myer" wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> > > -hh said:
> > >> No woories, Tim: "Walter" and Tom are just trying to 'poison the well'
> > >> to try to drag others down to their own level.
> > >
> > >> In the meantime, the weather's nice & clear this AM in Edinborough...
> > >> and the odd news this AM are the high number of cell-wifi links of
> > >> iPhone users in the restaurant at breakfast.
> > >
> > > True.
> > > And I've got another day of racing!
> >
> > and Walter is whining about how I misseplled Edinburg, Scotland.
>
> Golly, Chimp; It's, "misspelled" not "misseplled".
> Also, It's "Edinburgh", not Edinburg: That's twice now. Care to try for three?
>
> Are you sure you're even there, Genius?

Well, not now: the flight has landed.

<http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/Travel/2015-09-07>

> What kind of Idiot goes on vacation, and posts here?
> Obviously, you. BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAA.

Unlike the USA, free WiFi is pretty common in European airports, while allows
one to get caught up on _recreational_ reading. You probably didn't notice
that even though Tom Elam is posting again after his alleged 'off-grid camping
trip weekend' that he has again dodged...

...and what I said many hours ago was quite correct: the odd news was the high
number of cell-wifi links of iPhone users in the restaurant at breakfast. Or do
you want to stammer about wanting to see the breakfast receipt too? It included
Eggs Benedict ;-)


-hh

[Thomas E.]

Just got back this PM from Brown Co. State Park. Nice weekend, have not slept that well in years. In a tent, the smell of a campfire, on an air mattress, tree frogs and cicada to sing a bedtime song.

Great to get out into an area with no city lights at see the Milky Way again. Amazing.

What did I dodge?

[Thomas E.]

Actually, that's a kilometer and change behind. But who's counting? New engine an that's the best he can do. Now it's a "loose throttle cable." Wonder who tightened that up?

McColl is so bored with beating his pants off he seems have moved to a different class.

[-hh]

>> you want to stammer about wanting to see the breakfast receipt too? ...

>
> Just got back this PM from Brown Co. State Park. Nice weekend, have not
> slept that well in years. In a tent, the smell of a campfire, on an air mattress,
> tree frogs and cicada to sing a bedtime song.

Air mattress? Funny then your comment that was in the opposite direction
when this sort of stuff has been mentioned before.

> Great to get out into an area with no city lights at see the Milky Way again. Amazing.

Sure, and it also would have been even better with Northern Lights activity, but it
was quiet for portions of last week.

> What did I dodge?

Besides the question on how old those other trips were which you had mentioned?


-hh

[Walter Myer]

On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 6:41:00 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:

Nah, you can do wonders with Photoshop.

> It included
> Eggs Benedict ;-)

Did you bring the fat lady with you?

Are you done barking at the moon yet?

[Thomas E.]

I enjoy a variety of activities. Prefer nice places, and the tent had a power cord to a nearby post intended for an RV or towed camper. However, no WiFi and no cell service where we were miles from the nearest Sprint tower. THAT was nice.

As for travel, the first trip was 1976 to SE Asia, then to Philippines and Japan. Never seen the northern lights. Only trip that far north was in the summer.

It was 1988 before I took the next one. Here is the complete list, by date:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxuJGTDTmSZ1OC1sVkZNa0EzZGM/view?usp=sharing

The country list is incomplete, sometimes is only the first stop.

And puh-lease, don't claim I made this up in the last half hour!

[Alan Baker]

On 2015-09-07 20:46:16 +0000, Thomas E. said:

> On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 9:22:57 AM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2015-09-07 08:04:27 +0000, -hh said:
>>
>>> No woories, Tim: "Walter" and Tom are just trying to 'poison the well'
>>> to try to drag others down to their own level.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, the weather's nice & clear this AM in Edinborough...
>>> and the odd news this AM are the high number of cell-wifi links of
>>> iPhone users in the restaurant at breakfast.
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> True.
>>
>> And I've got another day of racing!
>>
>>
>> :-)
>
> You call finishing 45.241 seconds behind the leader in a 2 car FF event
> "racing?" Your best lap time both days was the slowest in the OW
> events, even including the DNF cars. Oh well, finishing last is
> finishing!

No actually, they weren't the slowest.

:-)

>
> Hope you were just taking somebody for a ride, because your "engine
> builder" just took you for an expensive one.

LOL

>
> Better check that oil screen again too.

Already done.

:-)

[Alan Baker]

I didn't say it was loose. I said it slipped. What I didn't say is that
it slipped because it got frayed.

:-)

>
> McColl is so bored with beating his pants off he seems have moved to a
> different class.

You know so little about what is going on it's really quite comical.

[-hh]

Tom wrote:
> I enjoy a variety of activities. Prefer nice places, and the tent had a power cord ...

My point as that you talked down to the choices of others (which have been more than an
air mattress in a tent with an extension cord)

> As for travel, the first trip was 1976 ..

Did put ask about the first international, but for recent.

> Here is the complete list, by date:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxuJGTDTmSZ1OC1sVkZNa0EzZGM/view?usp=sharing

Since 2000, the list show personal international trips taken total to seven; business
is about double that over the past decade, although a bit looks to be mostly Canada
or Central/South America...not the places you name-dropped before.

BTW, I see that there's two more planned for 2015. Auckland is a nice city; I'll try to
see about what decent food recommendations I might have from there.

> The country list is incomplete, sometimes is only the first stop.

With three of those seven being of but four (4) day duration, and none
double digits, it's not likely that there's many (if any) other countries. Especially
if one doesn't bother to count places where one never even left the airport
terminal's security zone/etc.

> And puh-lease, don't claim I made this up in the last half hour!

That's to be left to "Walter" to be whining about.


-hh

[Thomas E.]

So it was you who installed the cable. Thought so.

And you are correct, I missed one DNF in race 1 that only finished 1 lap. You did manage a better time than that poor guy. Otherwise, slowest best time and speed among all the OW Group 3 group in all three races. Are you proud of these results?

9/7/2015
Race 3, OW
Pos No. Name Laps Best time Best speed
1 4 Mel Kemper 25 01:09.5 109.837
2 18 Michael Lensen 25 01:09.7 109.51
4 41 George Doran 25 01:10.4 108.432
3 94 James Nadolny 25 01:10.9 107.598
5 98 Keray Mcewan 25 01:11.8 106.323
8 77 Brad Law 24 01:12.1 105.784
9 32 Lawence Bangert 24 01:12.2 105.679
6 9 Douglas Floer 24 01:12.4 105.372
DNF 3 Alan McColl 9 01:12.5 105.256
7 45 David McKay 24 01:12.6 105.163
10 62 Bradley Smith 24 01:12.7 104.923
DNF 90 Keith Robinson 9 01:13.4 103.987
11 21 Alan Baker 24 01:13.4 103.946

Race 2

Pos No. Name Laps Best time Best speed
DNF 33 Gavin Aitken 3 01:09.5 109.772
DNF 41 George Doran 3 01:12.9 104.653
10 77 Brad Law 10 01:14.6 102.361
9 94 James Nadolny 14 01:11.7 106.467
1 75 R. Granholm 20 01:07.5 113.115
2 4 Mel Kemper 20 01:10.1 108.858
3 3 Alan McColl 20 01:11.9 106.212
4 9 Douglas Floer 20 01:12.6 105.078
5 45 David McKay 20 01:12.4 105.347
6 32 Lawence Bangert 20 01:12.5 105.246
7 90 Keith Robinson 20 01:14.3 102.734
8 21 Alan Baker 20 01:15.5 101.074

Race 1

Pos No. Name Laps Best time Best speed
5 33 Gavin Aitken 25 01:08.8 110.908
DNF 75 R. Granholm 6 01:08.8 110.851
2 4 Mel Kemper 26 01:08.9 110.819
1 18 Michael Lensen 26 01:09.2 110.348
3 94 James Nadolny 26 01:09.6 109.65
12 77 Brad Law 24 01:10.6 108.042
7 41 George Doran 25 01:10.9 107.59
6 98 Keray Mcewan 25 01:11.5 106.705
4 3 Alan McColl 26 01:11.9 106.17
10 9 Douglas Floer 25 01:12.3 105.506
8 45 David McKay 25 01:13.0 104.575
9 32 Lawence Bangert 25 01:13.3 104.183
13 78 Roland Stec 16 01:13.6 103.659
11 21 Alan Baker 25 01:13.8 103.455
DNF 90 Keith Robinson 1 01:21.9 93.189

Poor Keith! But even Roland, managing to finish only 16 laps, beat your best time!

[Walter Myer]

Awwwww, little Chimp, still baying at the moon.

[Thomas E.]

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:

My apologies. I was not "talking down" more adventurous travel. I was actually putting myself down for being such a wimp. :)

Also, the list I posted was pretty much unreadable. Here is a link to a sorted list with all the columns on the same page, international only.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxuJGTDTmSZ1V1A4SVZEWl91SzQ/view?usp=sharing

The list was originally created to track business travel only. I did not log any personal travel in this list until about 2000. Since I don't have the records I did not attempt to add them back in. There were one or two vacation trips to Europe before 2000. Also, in some cases family was on the business trips, so those are a bit of both.

Total trips is 112 if you include the 2 coming up. We are flying from Auckland to Christchurch the day after arrival, and back to Auckland the day before departure. That is not booked yet, and not included. Anyway, it's a domestic trip.

Yes, it has slowed down since retirement, and more focused on vacation time. As it should be.

Almost all of the short trips are to Canada or the northern part of Latin America. There was this one trip to Brussels to spend an hour with a EU bureaucrat, then back home. That was a killer.

[Thomas E.]

You tell so few details, then expect others to figure it out. That's pretty comical too.

Anyway, I wonder what the next excuse will be next month?

Three days of running slow, and you couldn't figure it out? Apparently not, your times are consistently the slowest in the field. Sounds to me like you are the one that does not know what is going on with your car.

[Alan Baker]

You're right as it happens. So?

[Alan Baker]

Three days of running slower than I'd like--one of which was a problem
with the car.

LOL

[Thomas E.]

LOL

[Alan Baker]

Why do you imagine that lap time is function of number of laps
finished, Liar-boy?

Richard Granholm's F1000 is capable (in the right hands) of turning
laps of 1:04 (that's the lap record, held by one Nicolas Belling). If
he's out there and breaks after one fast lap, does that change his lap
time?

The Formula Fords in group 3 were, Alan McColl, Doug Floer, Dave McKay,
Larry Bangert, Keith Robinson, and me. And with the exception of Keith
(who was--gasp!--having issues with HIS car that day), we were spread
over less than 2 seconds with one driver accounting for 0.4 seconds of
that.

Roland Stec was driving an S2000, but we still had a great time racing
nose to tail for the latter half of the race.

:-)

[Thomas E.]

Best lap time has nothing to do with laps finished. You can have a great lap followed by car issues and finish laps down. Or crash on lap 2 and DNF. Duh.

You still finished 40+ seconds down on Monday. In the end, that's what counts.

:)

[Alan Baker]

Precisely. So why were you trying to make a thing out of how I could
only turn faster laps than people who DNF'd?

:-)

>
> You still finished 40+ seconds down on Monday. In the end, that's what counts.

Yup. Because I spun. I was in a battle with another guy and got caught
out by a bump and hit brake and gas together.

But if you're not going fast enough to spin now and then, you're not trying.

:-)


Without the spin, I'm about a second slower a lap than the eventual
winning Formula Ford driver; just as the best laps indicate.

Which was better than the two seconds a lap slower I was on Saturday.

:-)

[-hh]

Thomas E. wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > Tom wrote:
> > > I enjoy a variety of activities. Prefer nice places,
> > > and the tent had a power cord ...
> >
> > My point as that you talked down to the choices of others
> > (which have been more than an air mattress in a tent with
> > an extension cord)

[re-arranged for context]

> My apologies. I was not "talking down" more adventurous travel.
> I was actually putting myself down for being such a wimp. :)

No problem then: just an example of the medium's limitations.

> > > As for travel, the first trip was 1976 ..
> >

> > Did [not] ask about the first international, but for recent.
> > ...

> > Since 2000, the list show personal international trips taken
> > total to seven; business is about double that over the past
> > decade, although a bit looks to be mostly Canada or Central/
> > /South America...not the places you name-dropped before.

> > ...

> > With three of those seven being of but four (4) day duration,
> > and none double digits, it's not likely that there's many (if

> > any) other countries. Especially if ...

[re-arranged again]

> Also, the list I posted was pretty much unreadable. Here is a
> link to a sorted list with all the columns on the same page,
> international only.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxuJGTDTmSZ1V1A4SVZEWl91SzQ/view?usp=sharing

Actually, this helps quite a bit, as I see that I was using the
wrong data column for my comment above about personal trip durations:
I had used your "Air Legs", not "OUS" (Out of USA). As such, the
average trip duration discussion pulled from the wrong data:
instead of being under a week, its a bit over...although the data
does appear a bit odd in that it is highly bimodal between being
either "two+ week" or "weekend" in duration. Didn't look like
these short ones were as a personal extension off of a business-
paid ticket either, although that is a possibility.

> The list was originally created to track business travel only.
> I did not log any personal travel in this list until about 2000.
> Since I don't have the records I did not attempt to add them
> back in. There were one or two vacation trips to Europe before 2000.
> Also, in some cases family was on the business trips, so those
> are a bit of both.

A legacy source of data has its own reasons to exist (hence,
limitations for reuse). I have similar lists, one of which was
prompted by a class action lawsuit claim on foreign credit card
transaction fees which motivated finding/documenting trips from
the 1996-2006 timeframe for the claim. I've generally not
bothered with much recordkeeping on business trips unless there
were tax implications, and since these get filed annually, a
consolidated multi-year list isn't particularly value added.

> > BTW...Auckland is a nice city; I'll try to see about

> > what decent food recommendations I might have from there.
>

> We are flying from Auckland to Christchurch the day
> after arrival, and back to Auckland the day before departure.
> That is not booked yet, and not included. Anyway, it's a
> domestic trip.

I've not bothered to count travel legs at all; merely just
another example of how counts can be done differently for
different reasons/interests.

> Yes, it has slowed down since retirement, and more focused
> on vacation time. As it should be.

Agreed, although even so, I would have expected that you
would have had a lot more personal international over the
past decade based on how you had spoken of it...particularly
since there's also the "do the hard trips before you're too
old for them" aspect; our general rule of thumb is to look
to arrange to do a big/hard one every 2-3 years...

> ...There was this one trip to Brussels to spend an hour

> with a EU bureaucrat, then back home. That was a killer.

I'll let you revisit that comment after you complete your
flights to NZ ;-)

BTW, if you're not looking at Business Class, Air New Zealand
came out with their 'Skycouch' shortly after we went there;
aka "cuddle class" ...

http://www.airnewzealand.com/economy-skycouch

... but it appears that reception has been mixed;
Caveat Emptor.

-hh

[Walter Myer]

But according to IT, It is really the fastest guy out there!!!! BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAA.

ROTFLMAO

[Alan Baker]

Really?

Where did I ever say that, Michael?

:-)

[Thomas E.]

Yep, it is a bit bi-modal. Europe and Asia were generally 2 weeks, Latin America and Canada a week or less. Those really short trips are during the week for the most part. I was doing so much travel that another trip out of the country was not all that attractive at the time. Later, when it almost stopped, I missed it.

So thinking about it, the missing vacation trips with the ex-wife were more than 2 or three, there were 4. That was a long time back.

A 2 week UK driving expedition, up the west coast, back down the east
We met up once in England and stayed a week with friends in the London area
A 10 day Austrian vacation, Vienna, Salzburg, and skiing in the Alps
A week in France, traveling with a co-worker and his wife
She never expressed an interest in Asia or Latin America

There was also this one 2 week summer trip to England where I had enough free time, and a car, to play golf almost every day. They turned me loose with a driving itinerary that had a personal appearance every weekday, but the towns were not very far apart. On the free Saturday I was there I played from 8 am to 10 pm. 3 rounds on 3 different courses, all near Stratford. That was a lot more vacation than work.

Then too there was

A few days in Australia on my own
I had a trip to Italy where I gave a one hour talk, then toured with the group of company customers from Venice to Pisa. That was a fun trip.
There were quite a few weekends on my own all over the world

All in all, it's been a pretty good time

[Thomas E.]

Ah, driver error, just as one would expect.

Saturday, the day the car was not up to snuff. BFD.

[Alan Baker]

Yup.

But I'm hardly the only FF driver to spin on that weekend.

Hell, Alan McColl spun under a full course caution...

...after we'd formed up behind the pace car.

:-)

>
> Saturday, the day the car was not up to snuff. BFD.

Ummm...

...the car was running badly on SUNDAY...

...and my spin was on MONDAY.

:-)

[-hh]

Thomas E. wrote:
>-hh wrote:
> >
> > > > BTW...Auckland is a nice city; I'll try to see about
> > > > what decent food recommendations I might have from there.
> > >
> > > We are flying from Auckland to Christchurch the day
> > > after arrival, and back to Auckland the day before departure.
> > > That is not booked yet, and not included. Anyway, it's a
> > > domestic trip.
> >
> > I've not bothered to count travel legs at all; merely just
> > another example of how counts can be done differently for
> > different reasons/interests.

I've not yet been able to locate the travel diary from that trip, but
I was able to relocate a couple of the places with help from Google,
which also helps establish if they're still around...

Grand Harbour Chinese Restaurant
Address: Pakeham St & Custom St West, Viaduct Harbour, Auckland 1010, New Zealand

Went here for a Dim Sum lunch. Was done nicely enough, although
my recollection was that it was "menu order" as opposed to Hong Kong
rolled cart. Locals only; no tourists.

The Original Tony's (Steak & Seafood) ... http://www.tonys.co.nz
Address: 27 Wellesley St W, Auckland, 1010, New Zealand

Dinner; a solid, predictable steakhouse that's just around the corner
from Sky City. Mostly locals out for a nice meal.

The Viaduct Grill...?
Unit J, 99 Customs Street West

Had a hard time locating this place - - it was a "just tucked back so it
wasn't waterfront" pub down off the one sailboat filled basin around
the corner from the Maritime Museum. A "burgers & beer" type of lunch
joint w/good prices. Local crowd only, and of the more salty (vs poofy)
sailing types; interior was woody & dark...they weren't paying for a view.


Finally, I also recall that the Auckland airport is a decent distance out of
the downtown city ... if you're just doing a flight relay w/jetlag recovery,
you might not stay downtown at all. Expect it to be around a 30 minute
drive from the Sky City area of town.


-hh

[Thomas E.]

Thanks, I'll keep all that in mind when booking the Christchurch flights.

[-hh]

> Thanks, I'll keep all that in mind when booking the Christchurch flights.

BTW, if you do have some time for some local light dayhiking in the Auckland area, the coastal area of Karekare in the Waitakere Ranges Regional Parkland is a short drive to the west of Auckland and overlooks the Tasman Sea:

<http://www.huntzinger.com/photo/2010/newzealand/2012-desk+screen344s.jpg>

Geo-locate:

<https://www.google.com/maps/place/Karekare+Beach/@-36.990167,174.474003,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x2d18bccec905530a>

We had hired a guide, who picked us up in his van & drove us around to some different short dayhiking trails, including Karekare where we took a picnic lunch break (also included). I'll really have to find that year's travel diary to see if I can dig up the name of the company, as we would choose to use them again.


-hh