Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestsel
> ling-product-of-a/
>
> Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
Wow. An Amazon product gets a boost from...
...Amazon.
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"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
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'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article
<78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestsel
> ling-product-of-a/
>
> Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
>Wow. An Amazon product gets a boost from...
>...Amazon.
"It's best selling product of all time".
Are you now going to claim it's a lie, Halfbaked?
HOOT!!
You are a pathetic loser.
LOLLERCOASTER
From the original link:
"Alas, we're still no closer to knowing the exact figure of Kindle
sales..."
Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
>
> HOOT!!
>
> You are a pathetic loser.
>
> LOLLERCOASTER
Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
iPad sales when it says:
"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
LCD tablet."
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <Xf7So.6102$ge2...@newsfe07.iad>,
"Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-6C01D...@news.datemas.de...
>
> In article
> <78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
> MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bests
> > el
> > ling-product-of-a/
> >
> > Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
>
> >Wow. An Amazon product gets a boost from...
>
> >...Amazon.
>
> "It's best selling product of all time".
>
> Are you now going to claim it's a lie, Halfbaked?
>From the original link:
>"Alas, we're still no closer to knowing the exact figure of Kindle
>sales..."
When the Mac product was labeled "best selling" you didn't seem to have an
issue.
>Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
Read.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestselling-product-of-a/
>
> HOOT!!
>
> You are a pathetic loser.
>
> LOLLERCOASTER
>Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
>iPad sales when it says:
Of course it is.
>"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
>LCD tablet."
So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
HOOT!!
You really are halfbaked.
"MuahMan" wrote in message
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestselling-product-of-a/
>Cannibalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
Err - Alan Halfbaked says that's wrong. And also - only Apple products can
be labeled as "best selling of all time".
HOOT!!
> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-C0E6D...@news.datemas.de...
>
> In article <Xf7So.6102$ge2...@newsfe07.iad>,
> "Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-6C01D...@news.datemas.de...
> >
> > In article
> > <78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
> > MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bes
> > > ts
> > > el
> > > ling-product-of-a/
> > >
> > > Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> >
> > >Wow. An Amazon product gets a boost from...
> >
> > >...Amazon.
> >
> > "It's best selling product of all time".
> >
> > Are you now going to claim it's a lie, Halfbaked?
>
> >From the original link:
>
> >"Alas, we're still no closer to knowing the exact figure of Kindle
> >sales..."
>
> When the Mac product was labeled "best selling" you didn't seem to have an
> issue.
Really? When was that and what did I say?
>
> >Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
>
> Read.
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestsel
> ling-product-of-a/
I did. It doesn't define what Amazon means by "best-selling".
>
> >
> > HOOT!!
> >
> > You are a pathetic loser.
> >
> > LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
> >iPad sales when it says:
>
> Of course it is.
But Amazon disagrees with you.
>
> >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
> >LCD tablet."
>
> So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad sales?
>
> HOOT!!
>
> You really are halfbaked.
--
Amazon says it's wrong.
You, Lloyd Parsons, and David Fritzinger can never remember what you post.
You never want to take your chickens back when they come home to roost.
LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
>>
>> Read.
>>
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestsel
>> ling-product-of-a/
>
> I did. It doesn't define what Amazon means by "best-selling".
"Jeff Bezos and team have today announced that their latest and greatest
Kindle has become their bestselling product of all time"
Alan the Dunce needs somebody to define what "bestselling product of all
time" means to Amazon. LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >
>> > HOOT!!
>> >
>> > You are a pathetic loser.
>> >
>> > LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
>> >iPad sales when it says:
>>
>> Of course it is.
>
> But Amazon disagrees with you.
They also named the iPad "bestselling product of all time?" LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
>> >LCD tablet."
>>
>> So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
>
> So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad sales?
Did the iPad magically become less than $500? LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> HOOT!!
>>
>> You really are halfbaked.
HOOT!!
--
"I only have one reason for not buying an
iPad: I don't need one." -- Alan Baker
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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HOOT!
>
> >Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
>
> Read.
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestsel
> ling-product-of-a/
>I did. It doesn't define what Amazon means by "best-selling".
"All time best selling product". What is it you don't understand,
Halfbaked? HOOT!!
>
> >
> > HOOT!!
> >
> > You are a pathetic loser.
> >
> > LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
> >iPad sales when it says:
>
> Of course it is.
>But Amazon disagrees with you.
No, Dunce. Amazon only mentioned LCD tablets. Learn to absorb what you
read.
> >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
> >LCD tablet."
>
> So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
>So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad sales?
"Only iPad". Is that what you think you read, Dunce? Dance, Halfbaked,
dance. HOOT!!
Produce the alleged quotes...
>
> LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >>
> >> >Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
> >>
> >> Read.
> >>
> >> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-best
> >> sel
> >> ling-product-of-a/
> >
> > I did. It doesn't define what Amazon means by "best-selling".
>
> "Jeff Bezos and team have today announced that their latest and greatest
> Kindle has become their bestselling product of all time"
>
> Alan the Dunce needs somebody to define what "bestselling product of all
> time" means to Amazon. LOLLERCOASTER
I note that Amazon will not say what actual number of Kindles they have
sold...
>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > HOOT!!
> >> >
> >> > You are a pathetic loser.
> >> >
> >> > LOLLERCOASTER
> >>
> >> >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
> >> >iPad sales when it says:
> >>
> >> Of course it is.
> >
> > But Amazon disagrees with you.
>
> They also named the iPad "bestselling product of all time?" LOLLERCOASTER
Did they?
>
> >>
> >> >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
> >> >LCD tablet."
> >>
> >> So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
> >
> > So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad sales?
>
> Did the iPad magically become less than $500? LOLLERCOASTER
How is that relevant?
>
> >>
> >> HOOT!!
> >>
> >> You really are halfbaked.
>
> HOOT!!
--
LOLLERCOASTER
LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > HOOT!!
>> >> >
>> >> > You are a pathetic loser.
>> >> >
>> >> > LOLLERCOASTER
>> >>
>> >> >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't
>> >> >cannibalizing
>> >> >iPad sales when it says:
>> >>
>> >> Of course it is.
>> >
>> > But Amazon disagrees with you.
>>
>> They also named the iPad "bestselling product of all time?"
>> LOLLERCOASTER
>
> Did they?
LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >>
>> >> >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own
>> >> >an
>> >> >LCD tablet."
>> >>
>> >> So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
>> >
>> > So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad
>> > sales?
>>
>> Did the iPad magically become less than $500? LOLLERCOASTER
>
> How is that relevant?
LOLLERCOASTER
>
>>
>> >>
>> >> HOOT!!
>> >>
>> >> You really are halfbaked.
>>
>> HOOT!!
LOLLERCOASTER
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <6K7So.19036$v27....@newsfe22.iad>,
"Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "MuahMan" wrote in message
> news:78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestsel
> ling-product-of-a/
>
> >Cannibalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
>
> Err - Alan Halfbaked says that's wrong. And also - only Apple products
> can
> be labeled as "best selling of all time".
>Amazon says it's wrong.
No - you say it's wrong.
HOOT!!!
So how many have they sold? You notice that they still won't give out
numbers.
Not sure. But Amazon is a big online retailer (biggest?) so I assume
it's a lot and they are cannibalizing the shit out of the iPad sales.
Doesn't help that the iPad is utter shit for an eReader.
> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-A3B30...@news.datemas.de...
>
> In article <6K7So.19036$v27....@newsfe22.iad>,
> "Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "MuahMan" wrote in message
> > news:78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bests
> > el
> > ling-product-of-a/
> >
> > >Cannibalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> >
> > Err - Alan Halfbaked says that's wrong. And also - only Apple products
> > can
> > be labeled as "best selling of all time".
>
> >Amazon says it's wrong.
>
> No - you say it's wrong.
>
> HOOT!!!
No. Amazon does.
The say quite clearly that people are buying Kindles AND LCD tablets.
FYI. Their previous best seller which was a Harry Potter book sold 5.8
million copies.
Amazon says that Kindle's aren't cannibalizing LCD tablet sales...
So in other words, you don't know how many they sold. While we do
know exactly how many iPads have been sold.
Got anything to support that?
Really? Too bad you didn't read the press release where J.B. said, ""We're
seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an LCD
tablet." God you and zara are easy pwned.
More than 5.8 million, that's a LOT of iPad canabilized.
Damn now you Mactards gotta start hating Amazon too.
Sorry it was 8 million Kindles sold..... That's 8 million iPads
canabilized.
Wow, such reliable numbers.based on "two people who are aware of the
company's sales projections."
"But it sparks another dance of guess-the-sales-numbers, which happens
every time Amazon makes a sales announcement that lacks sales figures.
Are they bigger than a breadbox? Are they smaller than the Icelandic
economy?"
It's much easier to figure out the real numbers when the company
actually publishes them like Apple does every quarter.....
Ignoring, of course, "We're seeing that many of the people who are buying
Yeah so the iPad is being canabilized by the Kindle and the Nook. Good
point.
Windows beat OS X
Android beat iOS.
Wow. A couple of holes there:
The 8 million for Harry Potter: was that Amazon's sales?
What if Amazon is making their claim based on dollars not units?
The Nook is an "LCD tablet" now?
>
> Windows beat OS X
Actually it's slowly losing to Mac OS X.
>
> Android beat iOS.
LOL
What Amazon means by "best-selling": dollars or units, for instance?
>
> >
> > >
> > > HOOT!!
> > >
> > > You are a pathetic loser.
> > >
> > > LOLLERCOASTER
> >
> > >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
> > >iPad sales when it says:
> >
> > Of course it is.
>
> >But Amazon disagrees with you.
>
> No, Dunce. Amazon only mentioned LCD tablets. Learn to absorb what you
> read.
Right. And by far the biggest selling LCD tablet is the iPad!
>
>
> > >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
> > >LCD tablet."
> >
> > So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
>
> >So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad sales?
>
> "Only iPad". Is that what you think you read, Dunce? Dance, Halfbaked,
> dance. HOOT!!
No. That's what you claim: that somehow LCD tablet sales in general
aren't affected but that the iPad's sales are.
> >Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
>
> Read.
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestsel
> ling-product-of-a/
Troll reading comprehension FAIL.
--
Sandman[.net]
Yeah. Get out of the reality distortion field.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/09/how-to-root-your-nook-and-run-android-apps/
>
>
>
> > Windows beat OS X
>
> Actually it's slowly losing to Mac OS X.
Every comment you make is stupid. This one is still your stupidest
yet, and Steve Jobs disagrees with you.
"If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's
worth -- and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over.
Done. Microsoft won a long time ago."
>
>
>
> > Android beat iOS.
>
> LOL
It is funny how quickly Android obliterated iOS isn't it.
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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>Produce the alleged quotes...
HOOT!
>
> LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >>
> >> >Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
> >>
> >> Read.
> >>
> >> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-best
> >> sel
> >> ling-product-of-a/
> >
> > I did. It doesn't define what Amazon means by "best-selling".
>
> "Jeff Bezos and team have today announced that their latest and greatest
> Kindle has become their bestselling product of all time"
>
> Alan the Dunce needs somebody to define what "bestselling product of all
> time" means to Amazon. LOLLERCOASTER
>I note that Amazon will not say what actual number of Kindles they have
>sold...
"Lots"
HOOT
>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > HOOT!!
> >> >
> >> > You are a pathetic loser.
> >> >
> >> > LOLLERCOASTER
> >>
> >> >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
> >> >iPad sales when it says:
> >>
> >> Of course it is.
> >
> > But Amazon disagrees with you.
>
> They also named the iPad "bestselling product of all time?"
> LOLLERCOASTER
>Did they?
HOOOT!
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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HOOT! LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >
> > >
> > > HOOT!!
> > >
> > > You are a pathetic loser.
> > >
> > > LOLLERCOASTER
> >
> > >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
> > >iPad sales when it says:
> >
> > Of course it is.
>
> >But Amazon disagrees with you.
>
> No, Dunce. Amazon only mentioned LCD tablets. Learn to absorb what you
> read.
>Right. And by far the biggest selling LCD tablet is the iPad!
LOLLERCOASTER
>
>
> > >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own
> > >an
> > >LCD tablet."
> >
> > So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
>
> >So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad sales?
>
> "Only iPad". Is that what you think you read, Dunce? Dance, Halfbaked,
> dance. HOOT!!
>No. That's what you claim: that somehow LCD tablet sales in general
>aren't affected but that the iPad's sales are.
HOOT! LOLLERCOASTER
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <6K7So.19036$v27....@newsfe22.iad>,
"Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "MuahMan" wrote in message
> news:78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bestsel
> ling-product-of-a/
>
> >Cannibalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
>
> Err - Alan Halfbaked says that's wrong. And also - only Apple products
> can
> be labeled as "best selling of all time".
>Amazon says it's wrong.
No - you say it's wrong.
HOOT! LOLLERCOASTER
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <Mo9So.17601$Zf2....@newsfe17.iad>,
"Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-A3B30...@news.datemas.de...
>
> In article <6K7So.19036$v27....@newsfe22.iad>,
> "Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "MuahMan" wrote in message
> > news:78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bests
> > el
> > ling-product-of-a/
> >
> > >Cannibalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> >
> > Err - Alan Halfbaked says that's wrong. And also - only Apple products
> > can
> > be labeled as "best selling of all time".
>
> >Amazon says it's wrong.
>
> No - you say it's wrong.
>
> HOOT!!!
>No. Amazon does.
No, you do.
HOOT!
>The say quite clearly that people are buying Kindles AND LCD tablets.
With the Kindle as being the "BEST SELLING ALL TIME PRODUCT"
HOOT! LOLLERCOASTER
"KDT" wrote in message
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Lots and lots.
You still haven't given out how much profit you made on your stock buys,
Vagabond.
"KDT" wrote in message
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So "exactly" how many iPads were sold to date December 27, 2010?
"KDT" wrote in message
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But, but, but, you never question the numbers when an Apple product makes
top Amazon sales do you?
>It's much easier to figure out the real numbers when the company
>actually publishes them like Apple does every quarter.....
Another brilliant statement!!!!
HOOT!
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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HOOT!!
>What if Amazon is making their claim based on dollars not units?
Hold on to that one, Halfbaked.
LOLLERCOASTER
> In article <Xf7So.6102$ge2...@newsfe07.iad>,
> "Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-6C01D...@news.datemas.de...
> >
> > In article
> > <78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
> > MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-bes
> > > ts
> > > el
> > > ling-product-of-a/
> > >
> > > Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> >
> > >Wow. An Amazon product gets a boost from...
> >
> > >...Amazon.
> >
> > "It's best selling product of all time".
> >
> > Are you now going to claim it's a lie, Halfbaked?
>
> From the original link:
>
> "Alas, we're still no closer to knowing the exact figure of Kindle
> sales..."
>
> Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
Very likely the statement _should_ have read "It's best selling _Amazon_ product
of all time".
> >
> > HOOT!!
> >
> > You are a pathetic loser.
> >
> > LOLLERCOASTER
>
> Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
> iPad sales when it says:
>
> "We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
> LCD tablet."
--
regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-96E03...@news.datemas.de...
> > In article <5I7So.1674$231....@newsfe14.iad>,
> > "Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-C0E6D...@news.datemas.de...
> >>
> >> In article <Xf7So.6102$ge2...@newsfe07.iad>,
> >> "Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> >> > news:alangbaker-6C01D...@news.datemas.de...
> >> >
> >> > In article
> >> > <78b8b355-a615-4cfe...@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
> >> > MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-
> >> > > bes
> >> > > ts
> >> > > el
> >> > > ling-product-of-a/
> >> > >
> >> > > Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> >> >
> >> > >Wow. An Amazon product gets a boost from...
> >> >
> >> > >...Amazon.
> >> >
> >> > "It's best selling product of all time".
> >> >
> >> > Are you now going to claim it's a lie, Halfbaked?
> >>
> >> >From the original link:
> >>
> >> >"Alas, we're still no closer to knowing the exact figure of Kindle
> >> >sales..."
> >>
> >> When the Mac product was labeled "best selling" you didn't seem to have
> >> an
> >> issue.
> >
> > Really? When was that and what did I say?
>
> You, Lloyd Parsons, and David Fritzinger can never remember what you post.
> You never want to take your chickens back when they come home to roost.
>
> LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >>
> >> >Amazon don't define "best-selling", BTW
> >>
> >> Read.
> >>
> >> http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-best
> >> sel
> >> ling-product-of-a/
> >
> > I did. It doesn't define what Amazon means by "best-selling".
>
> "Jeff Bezos and team have today announced that their latest and greatest
> Kindle has become their bestselling product of all time"
"their bestselling product of all time" ie: Amazon's bestselling product of all
times.
>
> Alan the Dunce needs somebody to define what "bestselling product of all
> time" means to Amazon. LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > HOOT!!
> >> >
> >> > You are a pathetic loser.
> >> >
> >> > LOLLERCOASTER
> >>
> >> >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't cannibalizing
> >> >iPad sales when it says:
> >>
> >> Of course it is.
> >
> > But Amazon disagrees with you.
>
> They also named the iPad "bestselling product of all time?" LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >>
> >> >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an
> >> >LCD tablet."
> >>
> >> So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
> >
> > So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad sales?
>
> Did the iPad magically become less than $500? LOLLERCOASTER
>
> >>
> >> HOOT!!
> >>
> >> You really are halfbaked.
>
> HOOT!!
--
I never used Amazon's sales rank to show how *many* Apple products
were selling, only that they were selling well. Apple publishes the
number of iPhones, iPods, iPads, and Macs it sells every quarter. It
also announces how many "iOS devices" it sells at certain periods so
it's easy to calculate how many Touches it sales.
>
> >It's much easier to figure out the real numbers when the company
> >actually publishes them like Apple does every quarter.....
>
> Another brilliant statement!!!!
I'm not the idiot that bragged about 8 million + Kindles being sold
based on two unnamed people "who are familiar with the sales
projections".
And you have shown no proof of yours.....
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-CA90E...@news.datemas.de...
HOOT!!
>What if Amazon is making their claim based on dollars not units?
Hold on to that one, Halfbaked.
LOLLERCOASTER
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-6648B...@news.datemas.de...
In article
<76b59797-21f0-4d9b...@c2g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, KDT <scarface...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 27, 12:53 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-it...
> >
> > > Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> >
> > So how many have they sold? You notice that they still won't give out
> > numbers.
>
> Not sure. But Amazon is a big online retailer (biggest?) so I assume
> it's a lot and they are cannibalizing the shit out of the iPad sales.
> Doesn't help that the iPad is utter shit for an eReader.
>Amazon says that Kindle's aren't cannibalizing LCD tablet sales...
HOOOOOT!!!
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-C4B69...@news.datemas.de...
In article
<c1c01cdb-d0fc-41de...@39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 8:41 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, KDT <scarface...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 27, 12:53 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-it...
> >
> > > > Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> >
> > > So how many have they sold? You notice that they still won't give out
> > > numbers.
> >
> > Not sure. But Amazon is a big online retailer (biggest?) so I assume
> > it's a lot and they are cannibalizing the shit out of the iPad sales.
> > Doesn't help that the iPad is utter shit for an eReader.
>
> FYI. Their previous best seller which was a Harry Potter book sold 5.8
> million copies.
>Got anything to support that?
HOOOOT!!!!
"Tim Murray" wrote in message news:ETcSo.14562$lL1....@newsfe21.iad...
MuahMan wrote:
>
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-its-
bestsel
> ling-product-of-a/
>
> Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
>Really? Too bad you didn't read the press release where J.B. said, ""We're
>seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own an LCD
>tablet." God you and zara are easy pwned.
Say really - too bad, Polly. Comon....really too bad......comon....Cracker
.... really too bad....comon....say zara.....zara.....zara...hi
zara...........HOOT!
"KDT" wrote in message
news:be65639e-64bd-4a98...@l17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 28, 7:39 am, "Uncle Max" <uncamaximill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "KDT" wrote in message
>
> But, but, but, you never question the numbers when an Apple product makes
> top Amazon sales do you?
>I never used Amazon's sales rank to show how *many* Apple products
>were selling, only that they were selling well. Apple publishes the
>number of iPhones, iPods, iPads, and Macs it sells every quarter. It
>also announces how many "iOS devices" it sells at certain periods so
>it's easy to calculate how many Touches it sales.
Yawnnnnn.......
HOOT!!
>
> >It's much easier to figure out the real numbers when the company
> >actually publishes them like Apple does every quarter.....
>
> Another brilliant statement!!!!
>I'm not the idiot that bragged about 8 million + Kindles being sold
>based on two unnamed people "who are familiar with the sales
>projections".
So that is supposed to exonerate you from all of your past asshole
statements?
You're not too good at this.
HOOT!!
"KDT" wrote in message
news:3971573a-8eef-46c7...@g25g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
HOOT!! Another sidestep. So your answer is none. So how does an asshole
like you have the nerve to spout off on how to invest? HOOT!!
> On Dec 28, 1:25Â am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <416dd29c-c8f2-48f4-9861-0170a46d5...@o14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Â MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 28, 12:43Â am, Tim Murray <no-s...@thankyou.com> wrote:
> > > > MuahMan wrote:
> > > > > Sorry it was 8 million Kindles sold..... That's 8 million iPads
> > > > > canabilized.
> >
> > > > Ignoring, of course, "We're seeing that many of the people who are
> > > > buying
> > > > Kindles also own an LCD tablet."
> >
> > > Yeah so the iPad is being canabilized by the Kindle and the Nook. Good
> > > point.
> >
> > The Nook is an "LCD tablet" now?
>
> Yeah. Get out of the reality distortion field.
>
> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/09/how-to-root-your-nook-and-run-android-a
> pps/
The fact that you can root it doesn't turn it into the kind of tablet
that Amazon was talking about. The Nook is an e-reader.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > Windows beat OS X
> >
> > Actually it's slowly losing to Mac OS X.
>
>
> Every comment you make is stupid. This one is still your stupidest
> yet, and Steve Jobs disagrees with you.
>
> "If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's
> worth -- and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over.
> Done. Microsoft won a long time ago."
A lot changes in over a decade...
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > Android beat iOS.
> >
> > LOL
>
> It is funny how quickly Android obliterated iOS isn't it.
It's funny that you claim that iOS has been obliterated when it clearly
has not.
> --
> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
--
"A non-powered hub that will only support non-powered devices. IOW,
basically useless." -- Tim Adams
> --
> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
--
Survey: <http://nitobi.com/survey/>
241 of 571 said they use Dreamweaver (42%)
Tim Adams: "_80% DO NOT USE Dreamweaver AT ALL_!"
It's really not hard for most people with more than a fourth grade
education to understand the charts at finance.yahoo.com.....
Do you have Tourette's? They have treatment for that I hear....
We'll know on January 18...
> Say really - too bad, Polly. Comon....really too bad......comon....Cracker
> .... really too bad....comon....say zara.....zara.....zara...hi
> zara...........HOOT!
"KDT" wrote in message
news:717dbca4-c617-4636...@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 28, 9:51 am, "Uncle Max" <uncamaximill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yawnnnnn.......
>
> HOOT!!
> HOOT!!
>clip, clip, clip the really stooopid defense.
Go back to your trailer, sonny, and sleep it off.
"KDT" wrote in message
news:9b8573b3-ca77-49cf...@s5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
So you don't understand them. It's self evident. It's probably that you
have a learning disorder. But it seems more like you were just born
stupid.
"KDT" wrote in message
news:9daed289-d952-4f59...@l8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>http://givemetherock.com/wp-content/uploads/TimmyV.gif
You look cute - did you make your moms proud? Maybe if you try real hard,
maybe someday you can become a mirror star.
For you - it's perfect.
He was a lonely boy no good at sports
He couldn’t run his legs were short
He walked the streets inside his head
And spent a lot of time in bed
He practiced on his way to school
His friends all said you’re off the wall
He played a tight elastic band
His mike was just his empty hand
Mirror mirror mirror star
He posed in front of every car
They all called him crazy kid
He ran up to his room and hid
He greased his hair with Vaseline
And practiced looking really mean
He saw a face that’s going far
He posed right there with his guitar
Heads in the clouds on school reports
He’s always lost in other thoughts
Makes no difference shut them out
He’ll be a star someday no doubt
Mirror mirror mirror star
He posed in front of every car
They all called him crazy kid
He ran up to his room and hid
Mirror mirror on the wall
You’ll never treat him like a fool
In his room he is the king
The wild applause is deafening
You see his face on every wall
From Camden town to Liverpool
He lays a groupie when he’s down
And wreaks the best hotel in town
The kids hang round to see his face
And wish that they were in his place
Reflection plays the Mirror maze
Cause posing helps them make the grade
Mirror mirror on the wall
You’ll never treat him like a fool
In his room he is the king
The wild applause is deafening - The Fabulous Poodles, Mirror Star
No fucking joke? Why didn't you dunces need such distinctions back when
the iPad was Amazon's best seller? LOLLERCOASTER
>
>>
>> Alan the Dunce needs somebody to define what "bestselling product of all
>> time" means to Amazon. LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > HOOT!!
>> >> >
>> >> > You are a pathetic loser.
>> >> >
>> >> > LOLLERCOASTER
>> >>
>> >> >Oh, and Amazon itself acknowledges that the Kindle isn't
>> >> >cannibalizing
>> >> >iPad sales when it says:
>> >>
>> >> Of course it is.
>> >
>> > But Amazon disagrees with you.
>>
>> They also named the iPad "bestselling product of all time?"
>> LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >>
>> >> >"We're seeing that many of the people who are buying Kindles also own
>> >> >an
>> >> >LCD tablet."
>> >>
>> >> So now the iPad is the only LCD tablet in the world?
>> >
>> > So now you claim that magically the Kindle is only affecting iPad
>> > sales?
>>
>> Did the iPad magically become less than $500? LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> >>
>> >> HOOT!!
>> >>
>> >> You really are halfbaked.
>>
>> HOOT!!
>
--
"I only have one reason for not buying an
iPad: I don't need one." -- Alan Baker
> >> >> > > http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-i
I don't recall that being mentioned here in CSMA...
> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-CED579.07...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/28/10 5:55 AM:
>
> > --
> > regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> > you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> > the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Not being able to talk on topic, michael glasser once again can't refrain from
proving he's "a hideous troll" as Andrew J. Brehm wrote years ago.
> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-D50032.07...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/28/10 5:58 AM:
>
> > --
> > regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> > you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> > the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Not being able to talk on topic, michael glasser once again can't refrain from
proving he's "a hideous troll" as Andrew J. Brehm wrote years ago.
--
> --
> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
--
"YOU were the person claiming that the ~ told people to go to
HardDrive/users/username/ while I stated the ~ indicated the name of the
hard drive only." -- Tim Adams
> --
> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
--
"Incest IS sex by the very definition of the words. Therefore they ARE
identical when presented in that order." -- Tim Adams
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-2A8DF...@news.datemas.de...
In article <0SkSo.14552$2G7....@newsfe13.iad>,
"Uncle Max" <uncamax...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "KDT" wrote in message
> news:70a0bf4c-0413-42fc...@w2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Dec 27, 9:14 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 27, 8:41 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, KDT <scarface...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Dec 27, 12:53 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > >http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amazons-third-gen-kindle-is-now-it..
> > > > >.
> >
> > > > > Canabalizing the hell out of iPad sales.
> >
> > > > So how many have they sold? You notice that they still won't give
> > > > out
> > > > numbers.
> >
> > > Not sure. But Amazon is a big online retailer (biggest?) so I assume
> > > it's a lot and they are cannibalizing the shit out of the iPad sales.
> > > Doesn't help that the iPad is utter shit for an eReader.
> >
> > FYI. Their previous best seller which was a Harry Potter book sold 5.8
> > million copies.
>
> >So in other words, you don't know how many they sold. While we do
> >know exactly how many iPads have been sold.
>
> So "exactly" how many iPads were sold to date December 27, 2010?
>We'll know on January 18...
So in other words, you don't know and your statement; "While we do know
exactly how many iPads have been sold." was nothing but pure Bullshit.
Par for you.
The difference is that Apple has published how many iPads they have
sold every quarter. When has Amazon *ever* published the number of
Kindles sold?
1. It wasn't my statement.
2. The point of the statement was that Apple reports the actual figures.
Of course you don't, dunce. You wouldn't remember if you posted that
yourself.
LOLLERCOASTER
Did you remember how many IBM mainframes are represented by "lots" yet?
LOLLERCOASTER
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-13B27...@news.datemas.de...
Look up, Dunce. Seven lines to be exact. Is it that you're a lying
Scumbag, or just a stupid fuck - your choice.
"KDT" wrote in message
news:844b65ca-2441-41fe...@r29g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
DUHHHH, brain; Since you haven't been following, or are to stupid to figure
out what's going on, I'll recap.
Alan said, "we do know exactly how many iPads have been sold."
What we would like to know is; "exactly how many have bee sold up to and
including today".
Think you got it yet?
Think Alan can supply the number?
Forget about you, you don't know Jack Shit - actually- less than Jack Shit.
Lets end this quick, me and my socks are taking the boat over to the Bahamas
for New Years Eve.
What do you want to bet in less than 19 days we will know the number
of iPads sold but we won't know the number of Kindles sold?
"KDT" wrote in message
news:2edc48bf-e2a0-4c54...@n10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Bet? Why? All we want to know is "exactly how many iPads have been sold
to date? Is that so hard for you to fathom? Alan Halfbaked claimed he
knew. If he knows, a big brain like you should also know.
So - I'm gone, Sucker. Talk to yourself.
That's pretty cool that you can root a nook and make it an LCD screen.
> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-205138.14...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/28/10 12:37 PM:
>
> > --
> > regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> > you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> > the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Not being able to talk on topic, michael glasser once again can't refrain from
proving he's "a hideous troll" as Andrew J. Brehm wrote years ago.
--
> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-BA1D3A.14...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/28/10 12:37 PM:
>
> > --
> > regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> > you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> > the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Not being able to talk on topic, michael glasser once again can't refrain from
proving he's "a hideous troll" as Andrew J. Brehm wrote years ago.
--
> --
> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
> --
> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
No, actually. Alan didn't say that. If you knew how to follow a thread,
you might have figured that out on your own.
>
> What we would like to know is; "exactly how many have bee sold up to and
> including today".
>
> Think you got it yet?
>
> Think Alan can supply the number?
>
> Forget about you, you don't know Jack Shit - actually- less than Jack Shit.
>
> Lets end this quick, me and my socks are taking the boat over to the Bahamas
> for New Years Eve.
Sure you are.
Yeah. KDT said that. Any person of average intelligence understood that
it didn't mean we know the figure at every second of every day.
So quote it.
>
> LOLLERCOASTER
>
> Did you remember how many IBM mainframes are represented by "lots" yet?
Give me an estimate of the number of IBM mainframes in use in the world
in 1981, Edwin. Let's see what you think. Will it be as stupid as your
claim about workstations sales?
The the "real" best selling LCD tablet is .... what, zara? The Hoot by OWL
Computing?
Which is a different question.
Not "to date" he didn't.
>
> So - I'm gone, Sucker. Talk to yourself.
We can only hope....
So go fuck yourself. Fuck yourself every time you write "quote it" until
you come up with the quotes you're supposed to give.
>>
>> LOLLERCOASTER
>>
>> Did you remember how many IBM mainframes are represented by "lots" yet?
>
> Give me an estimate of the number of IBM mainframes in use in the world
> in 1981, Edwin. Let's see what you think. Will it be as stupid as your
> claim about workstations sales?
LOLLERCOASTER
I'm supposed to give you an estimate instead of you telling how many IBM
mainframes there were to generate PC sales by "default?"
You fucking asswipe
--
'So if you're intelligent and doing better
than "poor", you get a Mac.' -- Tim Murray
> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-FB582E.21...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/28/10 7:59 PM:
>
> > --
> > regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> > you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> > the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Not being able to talk on topic, as is typical, michael glasser once again can't
refrain from proving he's "a hideous troll" as Andrew J. Brehm wrote years ago.
--
> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-809651.21...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/28/10 7:59 PM:
>
> > --
> > regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> > you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> > the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Not being able to talk on topic, as is typical, michael glasser once again can't
refrain from proving he's "a hideous troll" as Andrew J. Brehm wrote years ago.
--
> --
> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
> --
> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Why did you quote this?
"The Macintosh and Windows platforms do not support tilde substitution when
a user name follows the tilde. On these platforms, attempts to use a tilde
followed by a user name will generate an error. File names that have a tilde
without a user name will be substituted using the $HOME environment
variable, just like for Unix."
<http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdln_filename.htm>
>
> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
> news:C940A26D.88364%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
>> Tim Adams stated in post
>> teadams$2$0$0$3-071549.10...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
>> 12/29/10 8:09 AM:
>>
>>> --
>>> regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
>>> you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
>>> the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Incest IS sex by the very definition of the words. Therefore they ARE
>> identical when presented in that order." -- Tim Adams
>
> Why did you quote this?
Tim Adams has been trolling me with his sig for years... though in all that
time he cannot find any quotes by me to show me doing wrong.
After *years* of not responding in any significant way (I occasionally
mentioned it - and Adams would insist he needed something from me to be able
to change his sig) I finally decided to respond to his trolling. Instead of
just posting accusations against him, though, which is moronic, I quote his
actual stupid or perverted claims. Well, some. There are many, many more.
Here are those claims:
Survey: <http://nitobi.com/survey/>
241 of 571 said they use Dreamweaver (42%)
Tim Adams: "_80% DO NOT USE Dreamweaver AT ALL_!"
"Incest IS sex by the very definition of the words. Therefore they ARE
identical when presented in that order." -- Tim Adams
"YOU were the person claiming that the ~ told people to go to
Whoops... left out:
"A non-powered hub that will only support non-powered devices. IOW,
basically useless." -- Tim Adams
The first shows Tim Adams is lost with even basic math.
The second shows Tim Adams is a pervert.
The third and fourth show Tim Adams is technically incompetent.
The third also shows Tim Adams lies about people - being that nobody ever
told him what he said they did.
So, yes: Tim Adams cannot do basic math, is a pervert and is technically
incompetent.
And it pisses him off when I remind him of this.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Where in all of that garbage is an answer to my question?
Actually, powershell supports it - the new standard shell for windows.
PS C:\> dir ~/Music
Directory: C:\Users\Tom\Music
Mode LastWriteTime Length Name
---- ------------- ------ ----
d---- 10/29/2010 11:49 AM music
PS C:\>
--
Tom Shelton
>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/tilde.mov>
The tilde by itself points to the user folder.
~/Desktop goes to the user's desktop folder. I can make a video of that for
you if you need.
It is not like this is hard... but Tim Adams is not competent to understand
this. He repeatedly insisted the ~ referenced to hard drive. Completely
wrong.
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Above. I can lead a horse to water but I cannot force it to drink.
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You're full of shit.
The correct answer is above.
You sound like a shell-shocked veteran.