How come no one likes Steve Ballmer?
gimme_this...@yahoo.com
Steve Jobs.
How he was fired from his own company.
How he faced adversity.
It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
today's Thomas Edison.
How come no one likes Steve Ballmer except Bill Gates?
Chance Furlong
Perhaps because Ballmer thinks Microsoft products should be the defacto
standard, refuses to accept competition and criticism, and thinks
everyone else should suck his dick.
Redjak
"Chance Furlong" wrote in message
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Don't be jealous, Asshole. I'm sure he'll let you if you ask.
Tommy Troll
Chance Furlong
Why would I be jealous of Ballmer?
Flint
> It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
> today's Thomas Edison.
Steve Jobs is no modern day Thomas Edison. Never was, and soon will
no longer have a chance to be either.
The real Edison's at Apple are the often unsung folks at Apple that
Jobs sucks all the atmosphere from with his RDF and slobbering media
attention.
If anything, Job's is a petulant spoiled snot glorified consumer who
is a dictator, with a bunch of money at his disposal to fund his
goose-stepping legal department to be the most successful IP
cyber-squatter in existence.
He'll be dead and buried before much longer - then maybe we'll see a
>real< breath of fresh air at Apple, and what Apple can >really< do...
Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and
see Woz come back.
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MFB
Nigel Ratburn
>
> Steve Jobs is no modern day Thomas Edison. Never was, and soon will no
> longer have a chance to be either.
>
> sucks all the atmosphere from with his RDF and slobbering media attention.
>
> a dictator, with a bunch of money at his disposal to fund his
> cyber squatter in existence.
>
> He'll be dead and buried before much longer, then maybe we'll see a
> real breath of fresh air at Apple, and what Apple can >really< do.
>
> see Woz come back.
I corrected your grammar for you.
AD
> On 6/16/11 8:11 PM, Redjak wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Chance Furlong" wrote in message
> >news:VaGdneqvmfEYCWfQ...@giganews.com...
>
>
> >> I went to my step-kid's High School graduation and they talked about
> >> Steve Jobs.
>
> >> How he was fired from his own company.
>
> >> How he faced adversity.
>
> >> It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
> >> today's Thomas Edison.
>
> >> How come no one likes Steve Ballmer except Bill Gates?
>
> >> Perhaps because Ballmer thinks Microsoft products should be the
> >> defacto standard, refuses to accept competition and criticism, and
> >> thinks everyone else should suck his dick.
>
> > Don't be jealous, asshole. I'm sure he'll let you if you ask.
>
> Why would I be jealous of Ballmer?
Hmm, because at his paygrade I'm sure he gets his choice of lays, for
example
AD
> Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and
> see Woz come back.
>
You want the company to suck again?
Steve de Mena
>> How come no one likes Steve Ballmer except Bill Gates?
>
> Perhaps because Ballmer thinks Microsoft products should be the
> defacto standard, refuses to accept competition and criticism, and
> thinks everyone else should suck his dick.
Sounds like any good CEO
Steve
-hh
> On 6/16/2011 7:20 PM, gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
> > today's Thomas Edison.
>
> Steve Jobs is no modern day Thomas Edison. Never was, and soon will
> no longer have a chance to be either.
>
> The real Edison's at Apple are the often unsung folks at Apple that
> Jobs sucks all the atmosphere from with his RDF and slobbering media
> attention.
Perhaps you didn't know that Edison had employees too?
> If anything, Job's is a petulant spoiled snot glorified consumer who
> is a dictator, with a bunch of money at his disposal to fund his
> goose-stepping legal department to be the most successful IP
> cyber-squatter in existence.
...and that Edison also had IP issues - - he merely didn't win as many
of his battles. This functionally includes the theft from Edison of
his "Moving Pictures" invention: the IP thieves left the East Coast
(where IP was being enforced) for the wilds of a place called
California.
> He'll be dead and buried before much longer - then maybe we'll see a
> >real< breath of fresh air at Apple, and what Apple can >really< do...
>
> Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and
> see Woz come back.
TIme will tell. Of course, what you think you want is the old, pre-
accident Woz...he hasn't existed for many years now.
-hh
Flint
What does Ballmer have to do with Apple or Mac advocacy you silly
goober? Can't you stay on topic?!?!?
--
MFB
Flint
> On Jun 17, 12:08 am, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
>> On 6/16/2011 7:20 PM, gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
>>> today's Thomas Edison.
>>
>> Steve Jobs is no modern day Thomas Edison. Never was, and soon will
>> no longer have a chance to be either.
>>
>> The real Edison's at Apple are the often unsung folks at Apple that
>> Jobs sucks all the atmosphere from with his RDF and slobbering media
>> attention.
>
> Perhaps you didn't know that Edison had employees too?
True enough, he did. But what is the liberal fascination likening him
to historical figures, though?!
first Obama/Roosevelt, now Jobs/Edison? Puh-leeze...
Edison *embraced* learning >from< failures, Jobs just goes around
Apple's screaming at his folks >for< failures. *Big* difference...
One thing the and Jobs did have in common however - they both were
viewed as a bit 'preachy'...
>> If anything, Job's is a petulant spoiled snot glorified consumer who
>> is a dictator, with a bunch of money at his disposal to fund his
>> goose-stepping legal department to be the most successful IP
>> cyber-squatter in existence.
>
> ...and that Edison also had IP issues - - he merely didn't win as many
> of his battles...
He 'benefited' from others' ideas/work as well - Tesla, Westinghouse, etc.
... This functionally includes the theft from Edison of
> his "Moving Pictures" invention: the IP thieves left the East Coast
> (where IP was being enforced) for the wilds of a place called
> California.
Ironic that Apple hails from there, isn't it? :) Of course, being
one of many SV pirates, they do enjoy some protection from the SF Bay
area politcal scene, the courts, and even the 9th Circuit court on
various occasions, no?
>> He'll be dead and buried before much longer - then maybe we'll see a
>> >real< breath of fresh air at Apple, and what Apple can>really< do...
>>
>> Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and
>> see Woz come back.
>
> TIme will tell. Of course, what you think you want is the old, pre-
> accident Woz...he hasn't existed for many years now.
You have a point there.
--
MFB
White Spirit
That's a good description of Jobs likewise. They're a pair of tits that
answer to the name of 'Steve'.
White Spirit
You mean it doesn't at the moment?
Redjak
"Flint" wrote in message news:itejvv$ot4$1...@dont-email.me...
On 6/16/2011 7:20 PM, gimme_this...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
> today's Thomas Edison.
>Steve Jobs is no modern day Thomas Edison. Never was, and soon will no
>longer have a chance to be either.
>The real Edison's at Apple are the often unsung folks at Apple that Jobs
>sucks all the atmosphere from with his RDF and slobbering media attention.
>If anything, Job's is a petulant spoiled snot glorified consumer who is a
>dictator, with a bunch of money at his disposal to fund his goose-stepping
>legal department to be the most successful IP cyber-squatter in existence.
>He'll be dead and buried before much longer - then maybe we'll see a
> >real< breath of fresh air at Apple, and what Apple can >really< do...
Hopefully - I stand to make some decent money if it happens in the not too
distant future.
>Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and see
>Woz come back.
None of them is the master promoter that Jobs is. He could wrap a turd in
an Apple iCandy wrapper and the Appholes would bolt them down in a flash
and claim how good they taste.
--
MFB
Redjak
"Flint" wrote in message news:itfi11$sd1$1...@dont-email.me...
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Did you catch him on "Dancing with the stars" by any chance?
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MFB
Alan Baker
wrote:
> On 6/17/2011 6:46 AM, -hh wrote:
> > On Jun 17, 12:08 am, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
> >> On 6/16/2011 7:20 PM, gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
> >>> today's Thomas Edison.
> >>
> >> Steve Jobs is no modern day Thomas Edison. Never was, and soon will
> >> no longer have a chance to be either.
> >>
> >> The real Edison's at Apple are the often unsung folks at Apple that
> >> Jobs sucks all the atmosphere from with his RDF and slobbering media
> >> attention.
> >
> > Perhaps you didn't know that Edison had employees too?
>
> True enough, he did. But what is the liberal fascination likening him
> to historical figures, though?!
>
> first Obama/Roosevelt, now Jobs/Edison? Puh-leeze...
>
> Edison *embraced* learning >from< failures, Jobs just goes around
> Apple's screaming at his folks >for< failures. *Big* difference...
Really? Got any proof of that?
--
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"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
Redjak
"Chance Furlong" wrote in message
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Asshole.
Hannah Fontana
> How come no one likes Steve Ballmer except Bill Gates?
The man who killed Microsoft - probably hired by Steve Jobs to do the job, and you wonder why nobody likes him?
Flint
And you think Woz was why the company sucked? I'd lay that one more
on Jobs & Sculley, no? Jobs may have learned some very valuable
lessons being a two-time failure before finally succeeding on a second
stint at Apple.
Edison he ain't, but I could buy a 'prodigal son'.
--
MFB
Flint
> In article<itfi11$sd1$1...@dont-email.me>, Flint<age...@section31.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2011 6:46 AM, -hh wrote:
>>> On Jun 17, 12:08 am, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
>>>> On 6/16/2011 7:20 PM, gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
>>>>> today's Thomas Edison.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Jobs is no modern day Thomas Edison. Never was, and soon will
>>>> no longer have a chance to be either.
>>>>
>>>> The real Edison's at Apple are the often unsung folks at Apple that
>>>> Jobs sucks all the atmosphere from with his RDF and slobbering media
>>>> attention.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you didn't know that Edison had employees too?
>>
>> True enough, he did. But what is the liberal fascination likening him
>> to historical figures, though?!
>>
>> first Obama/Roosevelt, now Jobs/Edison? Puh-leeze...
>>
>> Edison *embraced* learning>from< failures, Jobs just goes around
>> Apple's screaming at his folks>for< failures. *Big* difference...
>
> Really? Got any proof of that?
You've *got* to be kidding... There have been >voluminous< amounts of
information about Edison. But then again, being Canadian, I guess
perhaps you never heard of him.
As for Jobs, it's well known about his brow beating screams and rants
around Apple, not to mention it consistently fits his personality type.
Do a little Google search...
--
MFB
Alan Baker
wrote:
So... ...you have nothing... ...again.
MuahMan
Flint
> In article<ith2mi$2no$1...@dont-email.me>, Flint<age...@section31.org>
You're right - I have nothing with which to teach pigs to sing - nor
the patience to even bother with demands of proof from the
intentionally vaque, obtuse, and petulant folks who pattern themselves
after their Lord who insists others do the intellectually heavy
lifting for him so he can do his 'magical' opining at the each Apple
public event.
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MFB
Alan Baker
wrote:
Wow.
With all the time you've spent carping, you could easily have found one
of the references you claim is so simple to find with Google...
Flint
> In article<ithhhh$8is$1...@dont-email.me>, Flint<age...@section31.org>
Very well, I see you're being intentionally obtuse YA... not to
mention YA not being specific as to which part of 'that' I was
referring to in your petulant demands for evidence.
http://www.allaboutstevejobs.com/being/3-work/3-work.html#javascript:void%280%29
http://kmcauliffe.com/Kathleen_McAuliffe/The_History_of_Science_files/95Edison.pdf
There... I've lifted my pinky finger for you, which is more than the
sum total of .3 seconds it took Google to spit the results back.
Considered yourself enlightened...
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MFB
Redjak
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-842ED...@news.shawcable.net...
Yeah - skate away - again.
Redjak
"Flint" wrote in message news:ithr7f$8ek$1...@dont-email.me...
>http://www.allaboutstevejobs.com/being/3-work/3-work.html#javascript:void%280%29
>http://kmcauliffe.com/Kathleen_McAuliffe/The_History_of_Science_files/95Edison.pdf
>Considered yourself enlightened...
you wasted your time - this is "casting pearls before swine".
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MFB
Lyrik
<gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I went to my step-kid's High School graduation and they talked about
> Steve Jobs.
>
> How he was fired from his own company.
>
> How he faced adversity.
>
> today's Thomas Edison.
>
Becourse Steve Ballmer showes no dignity
Although he is an older man he tries to behave like he is 10 years
old. Dances and shouts.
This behavior does not attract followers.
It breeds disgust! And the disgust is inherited by the products he
praises.
Jens
Flint
Probably, I really don't care if he looks up the links or not.
I just wanted to shut him on the pedantic questioning of what is
obvious to 99.44 of the rest of the world and his obvious implication
that what I typed was totally baseless, and how dense someone has to
be to ask for bread crumb of info from the Google loaf takes took Gall
but .3 seconds to get. Not to mention, how hypocritical he is for all
my 'carping', when spends more time responding with his pedantry and
intentional obtuseness of late.
Comprehension also seems to be a problem on his part lately. He seems
to find all kinds of hidden meanings in one word answers of late, and
responds like a fanboi >trying< to appear as logical as Spock. In the
past, I've given him a tad more credit than most of the Apple folks
here, just below hh. Unlike hh (who you can agree to disagree with),
Alan just tends to fall a tad short lately trying to remain composed
when responding to ant-Apple/Jobs viewpoints. I think he's slipping a
bit...
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Flint
Actually, I did. He wasn't bad. Of course, Karina can make a dog turd
look good, but Steve looked pretty decent on those deep knee dip moves
of his for someone with the mid-riff that he has.
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MFB
Redjak
>wrote in message
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>I went to my step-kid's High School graduation and they talked about
>Steve Jobs.
>How he was fired from his own company.
>How he faced adversity.
>It's a given that everyone thinks of Steve Jobs as a hero. Like
>today's Thomas Edison.
>How come no one likes Steve Ballmer except Bill Gates?
Get your priorities in order, Son.
The question you should be asking is; How come no one likes you.
Redjak
"Flint" wrote in message news:itidd7$kf5$1...@dont-email.me...
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I think he's out of work at the moment and is filling in time here.
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Redjak
"Flint" wrote in message news:itietl$tvp$1...@dont-email.me...
No - he wasn't bad. He probably did better than I would have.
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Redjak
"Lyrik" wrote in message
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Yes - the power of BILLIONS.
KDT
> On 6/17/2011 1:05 AM, AD wrote:
>
> > On Jun 17, 7:08 am, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
>
> >> Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and
> >> see Woz come back.
>
> > You want the company to suck again?
>
> And you think Woz was why the company sucked? I'd lay that one more
> on Jobs & Sculley, no? Jobs may have learned some very valuable
> lessons being a two-time failure before finally succeeding on a second
> stint at Apple.
>
So, let's see.
1. Jobs founded Apple which is now the second most valuable company on
the U.S. stock exchange
2. Jobs bought what was to become Pixar from Lucas for $900 million
and sold it to Disney for $7 billion+
3. Jobs founded Next, which was bought by Apple which use as the
foundation to create a product that earns 50% of the entire cell phone
industries profits.
4. Oh yeah, and he led Apple to beat Microsoft in market cap, revenue.
and profit.
> MFB
Redjak
"KDT" wrote in message
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>So, let's see.
And, best of all - he's close to dead. So you think he's going to be like
Jesus and resurrect himself?
BTW - Oh yeah - MS still beats AAPL net profit - but you knew that. Fucking
Widdle weasel.
Alan Baker
"Redjak" <rjac...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
Wrong... ...again.
Total revenue: Apple wins
Income before tax: Apple wins
<http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL&fstype=ii>
<http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:MSFT&fstype=ii>
You: lose again.
Flint
> On Jun 17, 10:25 pm, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
>> On 6/17/2011 1:05 AM, AD wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 17, 7:08 am, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and
>>>> see Woz come back.
>>
>>> You want the company to suck again?
>>
>> And you think Woz was why the company sucked? I'd lay that one more
>> lessons being a two-time failure before finally succeeding on a second
>> stint at Apple.
>>
>
> So, let's see.
>
> 1. Jobs founded Apple which is now the second most valuable company on
> the U.S. stock exchange
... and got fired.
> 2. Jobs bought what was to become Pixar from Lucas for $900 million
> and sold it to Disney for $7 billion+
... and was an absentee landlord. Plus I don't see him
'redistributing' >his< moola-wealth in support his buddy George Soros.
Hypocrite...
> 3. Jobs founded Next, which was bought by Apple which use as the
> foundation to create a product that earns 50% of the entire cell phone
> industries profits.
... a failure as a company he luckily managed to pawn off onto Apple.
> 4. Oh yeah, and he led Apple to beat Microsoft in market cap, revenue.
> and profit.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion...
You also forgot he's lost market share to Android bigtime.
--
MFB
Lloyd Parsons
wrote:
> On 6/18/2011 12:28 PM, KDT wrote:
> > On Jun 17, 10:25 pm, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2011 1:05 AM, AD wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Jun 17, 7:08 am, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and
> >>>> see Woz come back.
> >>
> >>> You want the company to suck again?
> >>
> >> And you think Woz was why the company sucked? I'd lay that one more
> >> on Jobs& Sculley, no? Jobs may have learned some very valuable
> >> lessons being a two-time failure before finally succeeding on a second
> >> stint at Apple.
> >>
> >
> > So, let's see.
> >
> > 1. Jobs founded Apple which is now the second most valuable company on
> > the U.S. stock exchange
>
> ... and got fired.
>
Yep, he sure did get fired. One of Apple's BOD's biggest mistakes imo.
> > 2. Jobs bought what was to become Pixar from Lucas for $900 million
> > and sold it to Disney for $7 billion+
>
> ... and was an absentee landlord. Plus I don't see him
> 'redistributing' >his< moola-wealth in support his buddy George Soros.
> Hypocrite...
>
BFD! Gates didn't give much for lots of years either. Of course, BG
has made up for it by giving lots aways overseas...
>
> > 3. Jobs founded Next, which was bought by Apple which use as the
> > foundation to create a product that earns 50% of the entire cell phone
> > industries profits.
>
> ... a failure as a company he luckily managed to pawn off onto Apple.
>
LOL! Yes, as a money maker, it didn't do well. But it did create the
OS that is at the heart of OSX.
>
> > 4. Oh yeah, and he led Apple to beat Microsoft in market cap, revenue.
> > and profit.
>
> Even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion...
>
>
> You also forgot he's lost market share to Android bigtime.
I'm sure he's losing sleep over it. :)
--
Lloyd
Alan Baker
> On 6/18/2011 12:28 PM, KDT wrote:
> > On Jun 17, 10:25 pm, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2011 1:05 AM, AD wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Jun 17, 7:08 am, Flint<age...@section31.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Personally, I'd like to see Cook take over the reigns permanently, and
> >>>> see Woz come back.
> >>
> >>> You want the company to suck again?
> >>
> >> And you think Woz was why the company sucked? I'd lay that one more
> >> on Jobs& Sculley, no? Jobs may have learned some very valuable
> >> lessons being a two-time failure before finally succeeding on a second
> >> stint at Apple.
> >>
> >
> > So, let's see.
> >
> > 1. Jobs founded Apple which is now the second most valuable company on
> > the U.S. stock exchange
>
> ... and got fired.
>
Yup. And then when he came back, he turned Apple around.
:-)
> > 2. Jobs bought what was to become Pixar from Lucas for $900 million
> > and sold it to Disney for $7 billion+
>
> ... and was an absentee landlord. Plus I don't see him
> 'redistributing' >his< moola-wealth in support his buddy George Soros.
> Hypocrite...
What the hell are you on about?
>
>
> > 3. Jobs founded Next, which was bought by Apple which use as the
> > foundation to create a product that earns 50% of the entire cell phone
> > industries profits.
>
> ... a failure as a company he luckily managed to pawn off onto Apple.
Actually, it was a large success. It's WebObjects technology was doing
very well.
>
>
> > 4. Oh yeah, and he led Apple to beat Microsoft in market cap, revenue.
> > and profit.
>
> Even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion...
>
>
> You also forgot he's lost market share to Android bigtime.
LOL
Redjak
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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Wrong... ...again.
>You: lose again.
So now a quarter is a year? No wonder you're such a loser.
Redjak
"Lloyd Parsons" wrote in message
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Knowing what we do of him, I'm sure he is.
Alan Baker
"Redjak" <rjac...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
You didn't say for the year, did you?
Most current data: Apple is winning.
You: not so much.
Redjak
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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Your confusing posters again. It's either you’re a moron, or your
newsreader is broke and you're too stupid to fix it.
>Most current data: Apple is winning.
Riiight.
>You: not so much.
A morons "opinion". It don't count for much, Moron. MOOHOOHAAHAAHAAHAAAAA!