The New Mac Pro

[John Slade]

I see that Apple will come out with the new Mac Pro. It was
the only computer Apple sold that you can add cards in. But the
new one won't allow that, in fact it doesn't look like a
computer. It looks more like a standup ashtray. Maybe it looks
like a garbage can. I think it looks like a toilet for the Apple
cult members to throw money in and flush it.

John

[Nashton]

Perhaps as a BTO?

[Alan Baker]

In article <kp8ip2$725$2...@dont-email.me>,

<http://www.cray.com/Assets/Images/about/medialibrary/CRAY-1.jpg>

<http://www.xanthos.se/~joachim/oxygen.jpg>

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[ed]

The cray was 6' tall, 8' across, 10klbs, and was cylindrical (270 degrees actually) to keep wiring distances short.

The o2... was a rounded box similar in size to most desktops and workstations.

[Justin]

People smoked alot more back then, so yes it looks like an ashtray.
They didn't recycle, so it could also look like a trash can.

[Snit]

On 6/11/13 6:31 PM, in article kp8ip2$725$2...@dont-email.me, "John Slade"

Wow. You still have massive jealousy. Amazing.


--
"Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my
corpse, the first being scientific or medical use." -- Richard Stallman

[Sandman]

Don't hold back, do you have a point?

--
Sandman[.net]

[Gary]

It's a shame your ignorance gets in the way of common sense John.

Yes it is an unexpected shape which will be a change from the standard
workstation box sitting on the floor taking up way too much space.

The insides are actually changeable, if my memory serves me right phil
schiller mentioned module upgrades so it's not a buy this and you cant
change anything.

Give it a few months and it will launch with alot more description and
detail available to contain your excitement.

In the meantime realise your looking at the future of workstation pc's.
Apple have pushed things forward as per usual and i have no doubt other
company's will follow suit when they figure out how the hell Apple got
that high spec hardware into something so small.

[Alan Baker]

In article <51b8d952$0$1429$c3e8da3$40cd...@news.astraweb.com>,

Yup.

My bet is that in 6 months when the PC manufacturers have copied this
form factor, the trolls will suddenly decide it's the best thing EVAH.

;-)

[John Slade]

If HP or Dell came out with the shape, the usual suspects
in here would be saying it looked stupid. Just like when they
said it was stupid to put out a 7" tablet and Apple would never
do that.

John

[-hh]

On Jun 12, 8:33 pm, John Slade <hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>      If HP or Dell came out with the shape, the usual suspects
> in here would be saying it looked stupid. Just like when they
> said it was stupid to put out a 7" tablet and Apple would never
> do that.

On the contrary, I've already pointed out that this form factor, is,
in your words, "stupid" for certain specific customer use cases - and
since it wasn't obvious to you, this means for all manufacturers - -
meaning yes, specifically Apple, since they're the ones trying it
here.


-hh

[Nashton]

This just does not make sense.
Try 'er in English, habeeb.

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpbbod$kdr$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

Try it without the lame racial slur...

[Flint]

On 6/13/2013 12:00 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <kpbbod$kdr$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/12/2013 11:35 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> On Jun 12, 8:33 pm, John Slade <hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If HP or Dell came out with the shape, the usual suspects
>>>> in here would be saying it looked stupid. Just like when they
>>>> said it was stupid to put out a 7" tablet and Apple would never
>>>> do that.
>>>
>>> On the contrary, I've already pointed out that this form factor, is,
>>> in your words, "stupid" for certain specific customer use cases - and
>>> since it wasn't obvious to you, this means for all manufacturers - -
>>> meaning yes, specifically Apple, since they're the ones trying it
>>> here.
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>>
>>
>> This just does not make sense.
>> Try 'er in English, habeeb.
>
> Try it without the lame racial slur...
>

It's not a racial slur, Alan. Rather, it is an ethnic slur.

--
MFB

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpbmlr$u05$2...@dont-email.me>,

No. It is a racial slur. It's about the colour of someone's skin.

[AD]

On Jun 13, 12:04 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article <51b8d952$0$1429$c3e8da3$40cdd...@news.astraweb.com>,

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Gary <gaztronomi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2013-06-12 01:31:59 +0000, John Slade said:
>
> > >      I see that Apple will come out with the new Mac Pro. It was the
> > > only computer Apple sold that you can add cards in. But the new one
> > > won't allow that, in fact it doesn't look like a computer. It looks
> > > more like a standup ashtray. Maybe it looks like a garbage can. I think
> > > it looks like a toilet for the Apple cult members to throw money in and
> > > flush it.
>
> > > John
>
> > It's a shame your ignorance gets in the way of common sense John.
>
> > Yes it is an unexpected shape which will be a change from the standard
> > workstation box sitting on the floor taking up way too much space.
>
> > The insides are actually changeable, if my memory serves me right phil
> > schiller mentioned module upgrades so it's not a buy this and you cant
> > change anything.
>
> > Give it a few months and it will launch with alot more description and
> > detail available to contain your excitement.
>
> > In the meantime realise your looking at the future of workstation pc's.
> > Apple have pushed things forward as per usual and i have no doubt other
> > company's will follow suit when they figure out how the hell Apple got
> > that high spec hardware into something so small.
>
> Yup.
>
> My bet is that in 6 months when the PC manufacturers have copied this
> form factor, the trolls will suddenly decide it's the best thing EVAH.

xept in pc maybe there will be an expansion slot or two without a need
for another enclosure.

I could understand how they lock people in with two graphics cards
to simply the nightmare of desktop opengl driver maintanance,
but aside from that, how are you supposed to stuff your sas and sata
drives
in there without the aforementioned external enclosure

and once you got that enclosure all your noise achievements due to the
super dupe fan are out of the window

and no, i don't want a daisy chain of thunderbolt devices on my desk.
I don't want hdmi either, 1.4 or whatever. I want to be able to drive
an 8k or 16k monitor once they appear without flushing $5k down the
drain

my thinking is this thing will depreciate way, way quicker than
existing
upgradeable mac pros cause it's plain unuseable in a professional
market

[Nashton]

bakr, the biggest liar, most hated goober on the Usenet is on his moral
pedestal again.

So, habeeb, try 'er in English or are you going to...PM me?

LOL!

[Nashton]

On 6/13/2013 8:19 AM, AD wrote:
> On Jun 13, 12:04 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>> In article <51b8d952$0$1429$c3e8da3$40cdd...@news.astraweb.com>,
>>
>>

>>

>> Yup.
>>
>> My bet is that in 6 months when the PC manufacturers have copied this
>> form factor, the trolls will suddenly decide it's the best thing EVAH.
>
> xept in pc maybe there will be an expansion slot or two without a need
> for another enclosure.
>
> I could understand how they lock people in with two graphics cards
> to simply the nightmare of desktop opengl driver maintanance,
> but aside from that, how are you supposed to stuff your sas and sata
> drives
> in there without the aforementioned external enclosure
>
> and once you got that enclosure all your noise achievements due to the
> super dupe fan are out of the window
>
> and no, i don't want a daisy chain of thunderbolt devices on my desk.
> I don't want hdmi either, 1.4 or whatever. I want to be able to drive
> an 8k or 16k monitor once they appear without flushing $5k down the
> drain
>
> my thinking is this thing will depreciate way, way quicker than
> existing
> upgradeable mac pros cause it's plain unuseable in a professional
> market
>

Excellent points. Man am I ever happy I didn't wait for this rig.
This thing reeks Ive and it isn't pretty.

Seriously, WTF?

[Flint]

On 6/13/2013 4:58 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <kpbmlr$u05$2...@dont-email.me>,
> Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:
>
>> On 6/13/2013 12:00 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> In article <kpbbod$kdr$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/12/2013 11:35 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 12, 8:33 pm, John Slade <hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If HP or Dell came out with the shape, the usual suspects
>>>>>> in here would be saying it looked stupid. Just like when they
>>>>>> said it was stupid to put out a 7" tablet and Apple would never
>>>>>> do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the contrary, I've already pointed out that this form factor, is,
>>>>> in your words, "stupid" for certain specific customer use cases - and
>>>>> since it wasn't obvious to you, this means for all manufacturers - -
>>>>> meaning yes, specifically Apple, since they're the ones trying it
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -hh
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This just does not make sense.
>>>> Try 'er in English, habeeb.
>>>
>>> Try it without the lame racial slur...
>>>
>>
>> It's not a racial slur, Alan. Rather, it is an ethnic slur.
>
> No. It is a racial slur. It's about the colour of someone's skin.
>

Really? I saw nothing mentioned about skin color whatsoever. The
"Habeeb" is a comment towards >ethnicity<, not Race, silly.

You skin color fixation is seeded by your own fertile(viral, actually)
imagination, nothing else.

:D

--
MFB

[Lloyd]

In article <kpcepl$c0d$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

I'm even happier that you didn't wait for it. Your constant
belly-aching is very old and certainly not backed up by the majority of
user experiences.

While I'm not interested in the MacPro as it exceeds any need I might
have, it is a very good design and I think will garner excellent
acceptance by those in the market for a machine such as this.

[Steve de Mena]

On 6/12/13 1:25 PM, Gary wrote:
> On 2013-06-12 01:31:59 +0000, John Slade said:
>
>> I see that Apple will come out with the new Mac Pro. It was the
>> only computer Apple sold that you can add cards in. But the new one
>> won't allow that, in fact it doesn't look like a computer. It looks
>> more like a standup ashtray. Maybe it looks like a garbage can. I
>> think it looks like a toilet for the Apple cult members to throw
>> money in and flush it.
>>
>> John
>
> It's a shame your ignorance gets in the way of common sense John.
>
> Yes it is an unexpected shape which will be a change from the standard
> workstation box sitting on the floor taking up way too much space.
>
> The insides are actually changeable, if my memory serves me right phil
> schiller mentioned module upgrades so it's not a buy this and you cant
> change anything.

I've heard the CPU and GPU(s) are soldered in....

Steve

[Sandman]

In article <EJOdnWBtF4zsiCfM...@giganews.com>,

Which means they probably aren't.




--
Sandman[.net]

[-hh]

On Jun 13, 8:53 am, Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
> On 6/13/2013 4:58 AM, Alan Baker wrote:

> > In article <kpbmlr$u0...@dont-email.me>,

> >   Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
>
> >> On 6/13/2013 12:00 AM, Alan Baker wrote:

> >>> In article <kpbbod$kd...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <n...@na.com>

> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 6/12/2013 11:35 PM, -hh wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 12, 8:33 pm, John Slade <hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>         If HP or Dell came out with the shape, the usual suspects
> >>>>>> in here would be saying it looked stupid. Just like when they
> >>>>>> said it was stupid to put out a 7" tablet and Apple would never
> >>>>>> do that.
>
> >>>>> On the contrary, I've already pointed out that this form factor,  is,
> >>>>> in your words, "stupid" for certain specific customer use cases - and
> >>>>> since it wasn't obvious to you, this means for all manufacturers - -
> >>>>> meaning yes, specifically Apple, since they're the ones trying it
> >>>>> here.
>
> >>>>> -hh
>
> >>>> This just does not make sense.
> >>>> Try 'er in English, habeeb.
>
> >>> Try it without the lame racial slur...
>
> >> It's not a racial slur, Alan.  Rather, it is an ethnic slur.
>
> > No. It is a racial slur. It's about the colour of someone's skin.
>
> Really?  I saw nothing mentioned about skin color whatsoever.  The
> "Habeeb" is a comment towards >ethnicity<, not Race, silly.

So then up you are defending his bigotry because it was an ethnic slur
instead of a religious slur?

Of course, the prevailing Western popular perception would also make
racial associations, even if they're pedantically in error. Frankly,
I doubt Nicholas to be that intelligent, particularly since he picked
up this insult attempt from Zara troll based on a photo I took of a
coworker...


-hh

[KDT]

Excellent points. Man am I ever happy I didn't wait for this rig.
This thing reeks Ive and it isn't pretty.

-------
Like you would ever do anything complex enough to buy a Mac Pro.

[Flint]

1> I don't know where you see anything 'religious' about his comment.

2> I fail to see why you ask if I'm defending any bigotry whatsoever,
or how it is relevant to what I said to Alan. I simply corrected
Alan's erroneous impression, nothing more. The PC-ness stench of
those whining about others so-called bigotry stinks even worse than
the so called bigotry, IMHO.

>
> Of course, the prevailing Western popular perception would also make
> racial associations, even if they're pedantically in error. Frankly,
> I doubt Nicholas to be that intelligent, particularly since he picked
> up this insult attempt from Zara troll based on a photo I took of a
> coworker...

I see (not that it ever really meant anything to me).


>
>
> -hh
>
>
>


--
MFB

[Alan Baker]

In article <EJOdnWBtF4zsiCfM...@giganews.com>,
Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

WHERE have you "heard" this?

[AD]

.
>
> I've heard the CPU and GPU(s) are soldered in....
>

to each other...

[-hh]

Racist. But thank you for YA pendant avoidance attempt. Bigotry
exists on all three of these factors, particularly since they're
interrelated.

> 2> I fail to see why you ask if I'm defending any bigotry whatsoever,
> or how it is relevant to what I said to Alan.   I simply corrected
> Alan's erroneous impression, nothing more.  The PC-ness stench of
> those whining about others so-called bigotry stinks even worse than
> the so called bigotry, IMHO.

Bullshit. The impression here was not wrong - it was bigotry.

You're simply trying to apologize for a bigot because the specific
*type* of his bigotry was simply misidentified...

...well, not even that: you claimed misidentification, even though the
three commonly applied factors cannot be made mutually orthogonal to
make it a logically valid 'Either A -or- B' format claim. So the
pedant has made a pedantic error himself...how ironic.

> ... (not that it ever really meant anything to me)

But of course not: it was more important for you be the bigot's
accomplice by distracting and defending with trivial ankle-biters.


-hh

[Flint]

So? Your point? This affects me just how, again, *exactly*?

> You're simply trying to apologize for a bigot because the specific
> *type* of his bigotry was simply misidentified...

Presumptive on your part. I really don't care to apologize for it.
Nor do I care to take issue with his so called bigotry. Frankly, I
don't care *period*. I have no dog in this fight, and frankly, nor do
you, really.

> ...well, not even that: you claimed misidentification, even though the
> three commonly applied factors cannot be made mutually orthogonal to
> make it a logically valid 'Either A -or- B' format claim. So the
> pedant has made a pedantic error himself...how ironic.
>
>> ... (not that it ever really meant anything to me)
>
> But of course not: it was more important for you be the bigot's
> accomplice by distracting and defending with trivial ankle-biters.
>
>
> -hh
>

Translation: Because I didn't fully and unequivocally side with hh
and declare 100% support for him, now I'm a bigot supporter/apologist.

Man, his PC-ness stench just rolled in around here...

:-D

--
MFB

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpg55f$mos$1...@dont-email.me>,

None of it affected you at all, sunshine.

Yet you chose to step in anyway.

>
>
>
> > You're simply trying to apologize for a bigot because the specific
> > *type* of his bigotry was simply misidentified...
>
> Presumptive on your part. I really don't care to apologize for it.
> Nor do I care to take issue with his so called bigotry. Frankly, I
> don't care *period*. I have no dog in this fight, and frankly, nor do
> you, really.

You had enough "dog" to wade in with your "nuh-uh!"

>
>
> > ...well, not even that: you claimed misidentification, even though the
> > three commonly applied factors cannot be made mutually orthogonal to
> > make it a logically valid 'Either A -or- B' format claim. So the
> > pedant has made a pedantic error himself...how ironic.
> >
> >> ... (not that it ever really meant anything to me)
> >
> > But of course not: it was more important for you be the bigot's
> > accomplice by distracting and defending with trivial ankle-biters.
> >
> >
> > -hh
> >
>
> Translation: Because I didn't fully and unequivocally side with hh
> and declare 100% support for him, now I'm a bigot supporter/apologist.

You are. Or why reply at all?

>
> Man, his PC-ness stench just rolled in around here...
>
> :-D

--

[Nashton]

And you would know this, how, exactly?

[-hh]

Where 'Flint' did himself in was in repeated avoidance. That precludes it from being an accidental oversight.

-hh

[Gary]

so the 4k monitor support just does not do it for you, you have decided
only 8k or 16k is the next step.

I'll take that as a joke.

secondly, it will probably run near silent, no moving parts thanks to
flash drives.

Last but not least, the days of putting loads of hard drives inside a
case to the point of needing tornado fans to keep the inside cool are
over.

I would hapily get a mac Pro and attach a nice thunderbolt 2 NAS
storage and a couple of 4k displays.

[KDT]

Anyone whose claim to technical fame is compiling the Linux kernel and setting up Apache (i.e. editing some config files) doesn't seem like the demographic who would use a Mac Pro.

[Flint]

Yes, with a rather clear aim of disabusing you of the erroneous notion
as to just what constitutes 'racism' as opposed to a >possible<
ethnic slur. Two very different things you and hh seem to confuse.

>>> You're simply trying to apologize for a bigot because the specific
>>> *type* of his bigotry was simply misidentified...

Was it bigotry? Evidence? Or perhaps it was just a little ng 'banter'...

>> Presumptive on your part. I really don't care to apologize for it.
>> Nor do I care to take issue with his so called bigotry. Frankly, I
>> don't care *period*. I have no dog in this fight, and frankly, nor do
>> you, really.
>
> You had enough "dog" to wade in with your "nuh-uh!"

And just what dog was that? Apart from the usual back-n-forth
banter? And just how was it your dog, anyway - other than to simply
argue over some ginned up claim of racism.

Alan the 'Master-baiting Moralizer'! :-D

>>> ...well, not even that: you claimed misidentification, even though the
>>> three commonly applied factors cannot be made mutually orthogonal to
>>> make it a logically valid 'Either A -or- B' format claim. So the
>>> pedant has made a pedantic error himself...how ironic.

Funny, it appears the more upset you get, the more you exhibit a
righteous indignation combined with a predilection for determining
moral equivalency. Why are you so upset?

How's that? Verbose enuf ferya? :)

>>>> ... (not that it ever really meant anything to me)
>>>
>>> But of course not: it was more important for you be the bigot's
>>> accomplice by distracting and defending with trivial ankle-biters.

Yep, I was right. Somebody got under hh's skin...

>>>
>>> -hh
>>>
>>
>> Translation: Because I didn't fully and unequivocally side with hh
>> and declare 100% support for him, now I'm a bigot supporter/apologist.
>
> You are. Or why reply at all?

To prove how silly your claim was, nothing more.

>
>>
>> Man, his PC-ness stench just rolled in around here...
>>
>> :-D
>


--

MFB

[Flint]

On 6/14/2013 11:00 PM, -hh wrote:
> Where 'Flint' did himself in was in repeated avoidance.

You say that like it is a *baaaaad* thing, no?

That precludes it from being an accidental oversight.
>
> -hh
>

Says you. You guys are amazing "mindreaders" with a gift for flying
in the face of Occam's razor, and
overcomplicating/obfuscating/erroneously impugning one's motives...

...and getting it completely wrong (as usual).

--
MFB

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpnghr$a8k$1...@dont-email.me>,

Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:

> >>>> 2> I fail to see why you ask if I'm defending any bigotry whatsoever,
> >>>> or how it is relevant to what I said to Alan. I simply corrected
> >>>> Alan's erroneous impression, nothing more. The PC-ness stench of
> >>>> those whining about others so-called bigotry stinks even worse than
> >>>> the so called bigotry, IMHO.
> >>>
> >>> Bullshit. The impression here was not wrong - it was bigotry.
> >>
> >> So? Your point? This affects me just how, again, *exactly*?
> >
> > None of it affected you at all, sunshine.
> >
> > Yet you chose to step in anyway.
>
> Yes, with a rather clear aim of disabusing you of the erroneous notion
> as to just what constitutes 'racism' as opposed to a >possible<
> ethnic slur. Two very different things you and hh seem to confuse.

And now your apologies continue. You've downgraded it to ">possible<"

>
>
> >>> You're simply trying to apologize for a bigot because the specific
> >>> *type* of his bigotry was simply misidentified...
>
> Was it bigotry? Evidence? Or perhaps it was just a little ng 'banter'...

Yes. Self-evident.

>
>
> >> Presumptive on your part. I really don't care to apologize for it.
> >> Nor do I care to take issue with his so called bigotry. Frankly, I
> >> don't care *period*. I have no dog in this fight, and frankly, nor do
> >> you, really.
> >
> > You had enough "dog" to wade in with your "nuh-uh!"
>
>
> And just what dog was that? Apart from the usual back-n-forth
> banter? And just how was it your dog, anyway - other than to simply
> argue over some ginned up claim of racism.
>
> Alan the 'Master-baiting Moralizer'! :-D

I don't know what "dog" it was, "Flint". You're the one who claims you
don't have one.

What I know is you claim you have no reason to be posting...

...but here you are...

...again.

[-hh]

On Jun 17, 1:30 pm, Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 11:00 PM, -hh wrote:
>
> > Where 'Flint' did himself in was in repeated avoidance.
>
> You say that like it is a *baaaaad* thing, no?

Your persistence in avoidance condones the slur which was made.

>  >  That precludes it from being an accidental oversight.
>

> Says you.

No, you did it to yourself.

> You guys are amazing "mindreaders" with a gift for flying
> in the face of Occam's razor, and
> overcomplicating/obfuscating/erroneously impugning one's motives...

Oh, your motives are quite obvious, unfortunately: its a higher
priority for you to try to pedantically "buttonhole" Alan than to be a
responsible adult for a moment and call out a malicious bigot for his
slur.


-hh

[Flint]

On 6/17/2013 2:36 PM, -hh wrote:
> On Jun 17, 1:30 pm, Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
>> On 6/14/2013 11:00 PM, -hh wrote:
>>
>>> Where 'Flint' did himself in was in repeated avoidance.
>>
>> You say that like it is a *baaaaad* thing, no?
>
> Your persistence in avoidance condones the slur which was made.
>
>
>> > That precludes it from being an accidental oversight.
>>
>> Says you.
>
> No, you did it to yourself.
>
>
>> You guys are amazing "mindreaders" with a gift for flying
>> in the face of Occam's razor, and
>> overcomplicating/obfuscating/erroneously impugning one's motives...
>
> Oh, your motives are quite obvious, unfortunately: its a higher
> priority for you to try to pedantically "buttonhole" Alan

There was no attempt to 'buttonhole' him whatsoever. If anything,
Alan chose the WRONG buttonhole - I simply chose to free him of it, and...

> than to be a
> responsible adult for a moment and call out a malicious bigot for his
> slur.

... you can't handle it because you are more selfishly concerned over
your perceived slight from Nathan, and are exhibiting a "if'n you
ain't fer me, yer agin me." playground kiddy/bully tactic. Like I
said, I have no dog in this fight, but if a fight is what you seek, I
guess I can give you one since you exude such moral authority so as to
drag me into your fight over something I had no part of. Your attempt
to draw me into your "mighty righteous cause" is pathetic. Frankly,
as long as I've chatted with you, I've never busted on you and your
verbosity, but frankly, your attempt to impugn my motives for lack of
outright supporting your holy war on bigotry disgusts me, and now I'm
going to just come out and say it: You suffer from verbal diarrhea.

What I find humorous is that you left Nathan get under yer skin so.

--
MFB

[Flint]

On 6/17/2013 1:50 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <kpnghr$a8k$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>> 2> I fail to see why you ask if I'm defending any bigotry whatsoever,
>>>>>> or how it is relevant to what I said to Alan. I simply corrected
>>>>>> Alan's erroneous impression, nothing more. The PC-ness stench of
>>>>>> those whining about others so-called bigotry stinks even worse than
>>>>>> the so called bigotry, IMHO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. The impression here was not wrong - it was bigotry.
>>>>
>>>> So? Your point? This affects me just how, again, *exactly*?
>>>
>>> None of it affected you at all, sunshine.
>>>
>>> Yet you chose to step in anyway.
>>
>> Yes, with a rather clear aim of disabusing you of the erroneous notion
>> as to just what constitutes 'racism' as opposed to a >possible<
>> ethnic slur. Two very different things you and hh seem to confuse.
>
> And now your apologies continue. You've downgraded it to ">possible<"
>
>>
>>
>>>>> You're simply trying to apologize for a bigot because the specific
>>>>> *type* of his bigotry was simply misidentified...
>>
>> Was it bigotry? Evidence? Or perhaps it was just a little ng 'banter'...
>
> Yes. Self-evident.

To those given to hallucinations, I suppose. But then you also
claimed his slur was in reference to skin color when nothing of the
sort was even said.

Yep, self-evident hallucinations are pretty powerful, I suppose.

>>>> Presumptive on your part. I really don't care to apologize for it.
>>>> Nor do I care to take issue with his so called bigotry. Frankly, I
>>>> don't care *period*. I have no dog in this fight, and frankly, nor do
>>>> you, really.
>>>
>>> You had enough "dog" to wade in with your "nuh-uh!"
>>
>>
>> And just what dog was that? Apart from the usual back-n-forth
>> banter? And just how was it your dog, anyway - other than to simply
>> argue over some ginned up claim of racism.
>>
>> Alan the 'Master-baiting Moralizer'! :-D
>
> I don't know what "dog" it was, "Flint". You're the one who claims you
> don't have one.

Then you simply put your foot in yer mouth again, eh?

>
> What I know is you claim you have no reason to be posting...
>
> ...but here you are..

I never specifically claimed any such thing. You simply erroneously
inferred this, probably based on one of your morally highbrowed
hallucinatons from reading too many white characters between lines.

It's rather similar to "highway hypnosis". I suggest getting up from
the 'puter, taking a walk, having a cup of coffee...

>
> ...again.
>


--
MFB

[Flint]

On 6/13/2013 12:00 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <kpbbod$kdr$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>

> wrote:
>
>> On 6/12/2013 11:35 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> On Jun 12, 8:33 pm, John Slade <hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If HP or Dell came out with the shape, the usual suspects
>>>> in here would be saying it looked stupid. Just like when they
>>>> said it was stupid to put out a 7" tablet and Apple would never
>>>> do that.
>>>
>>> On the contrary, I've already pointed out that this form factor, is,
>>> in your words, "stupid" for certain specific customer use cases - and
>>> since it wasn't obvious to you, this means for all manufacturers - -
>>> meaning yes, specifically Apple, since they're the ones trying it
>>> here.
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>>
>>
>> This just does not make sense.
>> Try 'er in English, habeeb.
>
> Try it without the lame racial slur...
>

Try not being such a PC pantywaist...

--
MFB

[Nashton]

Who appointed you as a moral arbiter, Liar?
It's really priceless how you come to your buddy's unsolicited defense.

Back to being on topic, I'm just loving my experience with my PC. It's
faster, more stable and will run just about anything I need.

In the meantime, you and your verbose buddy in arms can drool over the
new Cube...er cylinder that most pros have decried. The ones left using
Apple crap.

[-hh]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:44:34 AM UTC-4, Flint wrote:
> On 6/17/2013 2:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>
> > Oh, your motives are quite obvious, unfortunately: its a higher
> > priority for you to try to pedantically "buttonhole" Alan
>
>
> There was no attempt to 'buttonhole' him whatsoever. If anything,
>
> Alan chose the WRONG buttonhole - I simply chose to free him of it, and...

"Oh, golly! It wasn't about Alan at all ... well, except that it was!"

Your own words reveal your lies.

> > than to be a
> > responsible adult for a moment and call out a malicious bigot for his
> > slur.

YA reminder ... dodged yet again.

> ... you can't handle it because you are more selfishly concerned over
> your perceived slight from Nathan, and are exhibiting a "if'n you
> ain't fer me, yer agin me." playground kiddy/bully tactic. Like I
> said, I have no dog in this fight, but if a fight is what you seek, I
> guess I can give you one since you exude such moral authority so as to
> drag me into your fight over something I had no part of. Your attempt
> to draw me into your "mighty righteous cause" is pathetic. Frankly,
> as long as I've chatted with you, I've never busted on you and your
> verbosity, but frankly, your attempt to impugn my motives for lack of
> outright supporting your holy war on bigotry disgusts me, and now I'm
> going to just come out and say it: You suffer from verbal diarrhea.

Boy what a dump of diarrhea to try to rationalize yourself!


Nicholas used bigotry as a weapon to try to be a bully.
He failed.

> What I find humorous is that you left Nathan get under yer skin so.

Why did he fail?
Because most people are wimps like you and roll over when pushed.

I didn't.
So sue me, sycophant.


-hh

[Flint]

On 6/18/2013 8:13 AM, -hh wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:44:34 AM UTC-4, Flint wrote:
>> On 6/17/2013 2:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, your motives are quite obvious, unfortunately: its a higher
>>> priority for you to try to pedantically "buttonhole" Alan
>>
>>
>> There was no attempt to 'buttonhole' him whatsoever. If anything,
>>
>> Alan chose the WRONG buttonhole - I simply chose to free him of it, and...
>
> "Oh, golly! It wasn't about Alan at all ... well, except that it was!"
>
> Your own words reveal your lies.



>>> than to be a
>>> responsible adult for a moment and call out a malicious bigot for his
>>> slur.
>
> YA reminder ... dodged yet again.

You require reminders, apparently. You seem to e suffering from
Alan-heimers, bloviating boy...

>
>
>> ... you can't handle it because you are more selfishly concerned over
>> your perceived slight from Nathan, and are exhibiting a "if'n you
>> ain't fer me, yer agin me." playground kiddy/bully tactic. Like I
>> said, I have no dog in this fight, but if a fight is what you seek, I
>> guess I can give you one since you exude such moral authority so as to
>> drag me into your fight over something I had no part of. Your attempt
>> to draw me into your "mighty righteous cause" is pathetic. Frankly,
>> as long as I've chatted with you, I've never busted on you and your
>> verbosity, but frankly, your attempt to impugn my motives for lack of
>> outright supporting your holy war on bigotry disgusts me, and now I'm
>> going to just come out and say it: You suffer from verbal diarrhea.
>
> Boy what a dump of diarrhea to try to rationalize yourself!
>
>
> Nicholas used bigotry as a weapon to try to be a bully.
> He failed.

Actually, his comment appeared to be anything but bigoted bullying.
It appeared to be rather dismissive of you more than anything. If you
thought that was 'bullying', you really are a pantywaist... er,
panty-"WASTE", diarrhea-dude.

Oops, I forgot, implying you are a brown underwear skidmark might
confuse you and Alan, and be construed as racist also.

My bad...

>
>
>> What I find humorous is that you left Nathan get under yer skin so.
>
> Why did he fail?
> Because most people are wimps like you and roll over when pushed.

Yet, here you remain whining over his perceived racial slur...

> I didn't.
> So sue me, sycophant.
>
>
> -hh

"Methinks thou dost protest too much"


--
MFB

[-hh]

On Jun 18, 8:35 am, Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
> On 6/18/2013 8:13 AM, -hh wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:44:34 AM UTC-4, Flint wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2013 2:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>
> >>> Oh, your motives are quite obvious, unfortunately:  its a higher
> >>> priority for you to try to pedantically "buttonhole" Alan
>
> >> There was no attempt to 'buttonhole' him whatsoever.  If anything,
> >> Alan chose the WRONG buttonhole - I simply chose to free him of it,
>

> > "Oh, golly!  It wasn't about Alan at all ... well, except that it was!"
>
> > Your own words reveal your lies.
> >
> >>> than to be a
> >>> responsible adult for a moment and call out a malicious bigot for his
> >>> slur.
>
> > YA reminder ... dodged yet again.
>
> You require reminders, apparently.  You seem to e suffering from
> Alan-heimers, bloviating boy...

Ad hominem namecalling.

> >> ... you can't handle it because you are more selfishly concerned over
> >> your perceived slight from Nathan, and are exhibiting a "if'n you
> >> ain't fer me, yer agin me." playground kiddy/bully tactic.  Like I
> >> said, I have no dog in this fight, but if a fight is what you seek, I
> >> guess I can give you one since you exude such moral authority so as to
> >> drag me into your fight over something I had no part of.  Your attempt
> >> to draw me into your "mighty righteous cause" is pathetic.  Frankly,
> >> as long as I've chatted with you, I've never busted on you and your
> >> verbosity, but frankly, your attempt to impugn my motives for lack of
> >> outright supporting your holy war on bigotry disgusts me, and now I'm
> >> going to just come out and say it:  You suffer from verbal diarrhea.
>
> > Boy what a dump of diarrhea to try to rationalize yourself!
>
> > Nicholas used bigotry as a weapon to try to be a bully.
> > He failed.
>
> Actually, his comment appeared to be anything but bigoted bullying.

Go ahead and try to defend the bigot, even though you know that the
nymshifter troll has used the same slur repeatedly and maliciously.

> It appeared to be rather dismissive of you more than anything.  If you
> thought that was 'bullying', you really are a pantywaist... er,
> panty-"WASTE", diarrhea-dude.
>
> Oops, I forgot, implying you are a brown underwear skidmark might
> confuse you and Alan, and be construed as racist also.
>
> My bad...

Indeed, since this example of your ad hominem namecalling reveals that
you personally have a cropophelia fetish.

> >> What I find humorous is that you left Nathan get under yer skin so.
>
> > Why did he fail?
> > Because most people are wimps like you and roll over when pushed.
>
> Yet, here you remain whining over his perceived racial slur...

No, it simply is not mincing words: his comment was a slur.

The addition of "perceived racial" is simply your spin-doctoring.

> >
> > I didn't.
> > So sue me, sycophant.
> >
> > -hh
>
> "Methinks thou dost protest too much"

Whereas you're trying to blame the victim.

...with also the incorrect assumption that I'm the victim.

Apparently, you've never seen anyone stand up to a bully because his
victim cannot.

Now go run along ... there's certainly rapists & murderers in your
town that need you to defend them.

-hh

[Nashton]

You're not a victim, you're a stalker. You named my children in a public
forum youm sick SOB. ;)

[-hh]

Stop lying, bigot.

You're who provided your own kids names to the Internet. And it is
only a matter of time until they discover how to Google and find your
hate and slurs.

"You've made your bed, so now lie in it."


-hh

[Flint]

So he has, so what? Alan failed to prove it was racist, and you're
blood pressure appears to be skyrocketing over nothing, actually,

>
>
>> It appeared to be rather dismissive of you more than anything. If you
>> thought that was 'bullying', you really are a pantywaist... er,
>> panty-"WASTE", diarrhea-dude.
>>
>> Oops, I forgot, implying you are a brown underwear skidmark might
>> confuse you and Alan, and be construed as racist also.
>>
>> My bad...
>
> Indeed, since this example of your ad hominem namecalling reveals that
> you personally have a cropophelia fetish.

Not at all. It is merely to avoid confusing Alan any further over
color and race... :-D

>
>
>>>> What I find humorous is that you left Nathan get under yer skin so.
>>
>>> Why did he fail?
>>> Because most people are wimps like you and roll over when pushed.
>>
>> Yet, here you remain whining over his perceived racial slur...
>
> No, it simply is not mincing words: his comment was a slur.
>
> The addition of "perceived racial" is simply your spin-doctoring.

My spot on assessment, actually.

>
>
>>>
>>> I didn't.
>>> So sue me, sycophant.
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> "Methinks thou dost protest too much"
>
> Whereas you're trying to blame the victim.
>
> ...with also the incorrect assumption that I'm the victim.

Nope. Just that apparently you are unfamiliar with Hamlet....

> Apparently, you've never seen anyone stand up to a bully because his
> victim cannot.
>
> Now go run along ... there's certainly rapists & murderers in your
> town that need you to defend them.
>
> -hh

Yep, there sure are... and you wouldn't stand a chance against any of
them if you met them in real life if you can't even handle a little
banter here in a newsgroup.



--
MFB

[Flint]

I don't know you and hh's 'history' is, but apparently you got his
panties in a bunch. I've never seen him go on and on like this.
Normally, he comes off as rather stoic, almost stuffy with his
verbosity, but his unusual clipped, terse replies seem to show cracks
in that 'stoic' facade. :)


--
MFB

[-hh]

Regardless of which kind of bigotry it was, it was still a bigotry.
And you're hard at work trying to spin it all on a pedant hair
splitting.

> >> It appeared to be rather dismissive of you more than anything.  If you
> >> thought that was 'bullying', you really are a pantywaist... er,
> >> panty-"WASTE", diarrhea-dude.
>
> >> Oops, I forgot, implying you are a brown underwear skidmark might
> >> confuse you and Alan, and be construed as racist also.
>
> >> My bad...
>
> > Indeed, since this example of your ad hominem namecalling reveals that
> > you personally have a cropophelia fetish.
>
> Not at all.  It is merely to avoid confusing Alan any further over
> color and race... :-D

Via your own batch of verbal diarrhea.

> >>>> What I find humorous is that you left Nathan get under yer skin so.
>
> >>> Why did he fail?
> >>> Because most people are wimps like you and roll over when pushed.
>
> >> Yet, here you remain whining over his perceived racial slur...
>
> > No, it simply is not mincing words:  his comment was a slur.
>
> > The addition of "perceived racial" is simply your spin-doctoring.
>
> My spot on assessment, actually.

Yes, it was, but that wasn't the intention of why I made the comment.

> >>> I didn't.
> >>> So sue me, sycophant.
>
> >>> -hh
>
> >> "Methinks thou dost protest too much"
>
> > Whereas you're trying to blame the victim.
>
> > ...with also the incorrect assumption that I'm the victim.
>
> Nope. Just that apparently you are unfamiliar with Hamlet....
>
> > Apparently, you've never seen anyone stand up to a bully because his
> > victim cannot.
>
> > Now go run along ... there's certainly rapists & murderers in your
> > town that need you to defend them.
>
> > -hh
>
> Yep, there sure are... and you wouldn't stand a chance against any of
> them if you met them in real life if you can't even handle a little
> banter here in a newsgroup.

Oh, so you *haven't* actually done your homework!


-hh

[Nashton]

On 6/18/2013 1:42 PM, Flint wrote:
> On 6/18/2013 9:42 AM, -hh wrote:
>> On Jun 18, 8:35 am, Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2013 8:13 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:44:34 AM UTC-4, Flint wrote:
>>>>> On 6/17/2013 2:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Oh, your motives are quite obvious, unfortunately: its a higher

>>>

>>>> Boy what a dump of diarrhea to try to rationalize yourself!
>>>
>>>> Nicholas used bigotry as a weapon to try to be a bully.
>>>> He failed.
>>>
>>> Actually, his comment appeared to be anything but bigoted bullying.
>>
>> Go ahead and try to defend the bigot, even though you know that the
>> nymshifter troll has used the same slur repeatedly and maliciously.
>
> So he has, so what? Alan failed to prove it was racist, and you're
> blood pressure appears to be skyrocketing over nothing, actually,

I don't know where Mr. Blurry Pics is assuming that I nymshift.
He must be taking lessons from the Liar, bakr.

[Alan Baker]

In article <kppcva$45j$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>

wrote:

> On 6/18/2013 2:28 AM, Flint wrote:
> > On 6/13/2013 12:00 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
> >> In article <kpbbod$kdr$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 6/12/2013 11:35 PM, -hh wrote:
> >>>> On Jun 12, 8:33 pm, John Slade <hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If HP or Dell came out with the shape, the usual suspects
> >>>>> in here would be saying it looked stupid. Just like when they
> >>>>> said it was stupid to put out a 7" tablet and Apple would never
> >>>>> do that.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the contrary, I've already pointed out that this form factor, is,
> >>>> in your words, "stupid" for certain specific customer use cases - and
> >>>> since it wasn't obvious to you, this means for all manufacturers - -
> >>>> meaning yes, specifically Apple, since they're the ones trying it
> >>>> here.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -hh
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> This just does not make sense.
> >>> Try 'er in English, habeeb.
> >>
> >> Try it without the lame racial slur...
>
> Who appointed you as a moral arbiter, Liar?

Where did I say anything about "arbiting" anything, coward?

Recognizing something isn't "arbiting".

> It's really priceless how you come to your buddy's unsolicited defense.
>
> Back to being on topic, I'm just loving my experience with my PC. It's
> faster, more stable and will run just about anything I need.
>
> In the meantime, you and your verbose buddy in arms can drool over the
> new Cube...er cylinder that most pros have decried. The ones left using
> Apple crap.

"Most" pros haven't decried it. THAT is an actual lie.

> >>
> >
> > Try not being such a PC pantywaist...

Try not to be such a coward.

:-)

[Nashton]

On 6/18/2013 1:56 PM, -hh wrote:
> On Jun 18, 12:42 pm, Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
>> On 6/18/2013 9:42 AM, -hh wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 18, 8:35 am, Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
>>>> On 6/18/2013 8:13 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:44:34 AM UTC-4, Flint wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/2013 2:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>


>>
>>>>> Boy what a dump of diarrhea to try to rationalize yourself!
>>
>>>>> Nicholas used bigotry as a weapon to try to be a bully.
>>>>> He failed.
>>
>>>> Actually, his comment appeared to be anything but bigoted bullying.
>>
>>> Go ahead and try to defend the bigot, even though you know that the
>>> nymshifter troll has used the same slur repeatedly and maliciously.
>>
>> So he has, so what? Alan failed to prove it was racist, and you're
>> blood pressure appears to be skyrocketing over nothing, actually,
>
> Regardless of which kind of bigotry it was, it was still a bigotry.

So now you're not really sure.

LOL!

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpq6k7$f4l$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

Ironic that a liar expects to be believed...

...but I'll be honest enough to say that I don't believe you nymshift,
Nicolas.

You're a coward and a bigot and a hypocrite...

...but you're not a nymshifter.

:-)

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpq6me$f4l$4...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

It was still bigotry, bigot.

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpq2nt$sr8$1...@dont-email.me>,

And apparently you're highly selective in your correction of wrong
statements...

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpoors$bg9$1...@dont-email.me>,

Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:

> On 6/17/2013 1:50 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <kpnghr$a8k$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:
> >
> >>>>>> 2> I fail to see why you ask if I'm defending any bigotry whatsoever,
> >>>>>> or how it is relevant to what I said to Alan. I simply corrected
> >>>>>> Alan's erroneous impression, nothing more. The PC-ness stench of
> >>>>>> those whining about others so-called bigotry stinks even worse than
> >>>>>> the so called bigotry, IMHO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bullshit. The impression here was not wrong - it was bigotry.
> >>>>
> >>>> So? Your point? This affects me just how, again, *exactly*?
> >>>
> >>> None of it affected you at all, sunshine.
> >>>
> >>> Yet you chose to step in anyway.
> >>
> >> Yes, with a rather clear aim of disabusing you of the erroneous notion
> >> as to just what constitutes 'racism' as opposed to a >possible<
> >> ethnic slur. Two very different things you and hh seem to confuse.
> >
> > And now your apologies continue. You've downgraded it to ">possible<"
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> You're simply trying to apologize for a bigot because the specific
> >>>>> *type* of his bigotry was simply misidentified...
> >>
> >> Was it bigotry? Evidence? Or perhaps it was just a little ng 'banter'...
> >
> > Yes. Self-evident.
>
>
> To those given to hallucinations, I suppose. But then you also
> claimed his slur was in reference to skin color when nothing of the
> sort was even said.

I never said it was in reference to skin colour.

[-hh]

Alan Baker wrote:

> Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know you and hh's 'history' is,
> > but apparently you got his panties in
> > a bunch. I've never seen him go on
> > and on like this.
> > Normally, he comes off as rather stoic,
> > almost stuffy with his verbosity, but
> > his unusual clipped, terse replies seem
> > to show cracks in that 'stoic' facade. :)
>
>
> And apparently you're highly selective
> in your correction of wrong statements...
>

Flint was just whining about how I'm too verbose...and now he complains that I'm too terse!

Flint's hypocrisy is quite revealing...and not at all a surprise, unfortunately.


-hh

[Alan Baker]

In article <50168613-d7d4-41aa...@googlegroups.com>,

Indeed.

He has "no dog in this fight" when Nicolas acts like a bigot, so he
objects to what he feels is an incorrect identification of the *kind* of
bigotry...

...but let Nicolas call you a "stalker" and he is suddenly mute.

:-)

[-hh]

Alan Baker wrote:
> Nashton <na...@na.com> wrote:
> > On 6/18/2013 1:42 PM, Flint wrote:
> > > On 6/18/2013 9:42 AM, -hh wrote:
>
> > >> Go ahead and try to defend the bigot,
> > >> even though you know that the nymshifter
> > >> troll has used the same slur repeatedly
> > >> and maliciously.
>
> > > So he has, so what?
>

> > I don't know where Mr. Blurry Pics is
> > assuming that I nymshift.

> ...

>
> Ironic that a liar expects to be believed...
>
> ...but I'll be honest enough to say that
> I don't believe you nymshift, Nicolas.

It was a reading comprehension failure by Nicolas.

The nymshifter troll was referring to "Zara", under whatever his name happens to be this week...IIRC, its presently "Jay Birdsong".



-hh

[Alan Baker]

In article <b0c70cd8-e769-4bd5...@googlegroups.com>,

Ah. Noted.

[Nashton]

On 6/18/2013 3:46 PM, -hh wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
>> Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know you and hh's 'history' is,
>>> but apparently you got his panties in
>>> a bunch. I've never seen him go on
>>> and on like this.
>>> Normally, he comes off as rather stoic,
>>> almost stuffy with his verbosity, but
>>> his unusual clipped, terse replies seem
>>> to show cracks in that 'stoic' facade. :)
>>
>>
>> And apparently you're highly selective
>> in your correction of wrong statements...

bakr on his soap box, *again*.

>>
>
> Flint was just whining about how I'm too verbose...and now he complains that I'm too terse!
>
> Flint's hypocrisy is quite revealing...and not at all a surprise, unfortunately.
>
>
> -hh
>

I believe he was just making an observation Mr. Blurry Pics.

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpqjsn$lv1$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> On 6/18/2013 3:46 PM, -hh wrote:
> > Alan Baker wrote:
> >> Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I don't know you and hh's 'history' is,
> >>> but apparently you got his panties in
> >>> a bunch. I've never seen him go on
> >>> and on like this.
> >>> Normally, he comes off as rather stoic,
> >>> almost stuffy with his verbosity, but
> >>> his unusual clipped, terse replies seem
> >>> to show cracks in that 'stoic' facade. :)
> >>
> >>
> >> And apparently you're highly selective
> >> in your correction of wrong statements...
>
> bakr on his soap box, *again*.

I've never been on any soap box, Nicolas...

...unless it is perhaps against hypocrisy and double-standards.

[Flint]

On 6/18/2013 2:53 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <50168613-d7d4-41aa...@googlegroups.com>,
> -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>> Flint <agen...@section-31.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know you and hh's 'history' is,
>>>> but apparently you got his panties in
>>>> a bunch. I've never seen him go on
>>>> and on like this.
>>>> Normally, he comes off as rather stoic,
>>>> almost stuffy with his verbosity, but
>>>> his unusual clipped, terse replies seem
>>>> to show cracks in that 'stoic' facade. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> And apparently you're highly selective
>>> in your correction of wrong statements...
>>>
>>
>> Flint was just whining about how I'm too verbose...and now he complains that
>> I'm too terse!
>>
>> Flint's hypocrisy is quite revealing...and not at all a surprise,
>> unfortunately.
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Indeed.
>
> He has "no dog in this fight" when Nicolas acts like a bigot, so he
> objects to what he feels is an incorrect identification of the *kind* of
> bigotry...

I didn't say anything about bigotry. That was your canard not mine.
I simply stated it wasn't >racist<, and only allowed for a possible
interpretation of ethnic bigotry., and even then I'm not certain it
was even that. Now you want to widen the goal post uprights with
'bigotry'.

OK, so for arguments sake, let's say you're right and it was a bit of
ethnic bigotry. Again, so fucking what? Maybe something about hh's
ethnicity bugs him, again, so what? Anyone who claims they don't hold
to some form of bigotry is a flat out liar. It's only a question of
the particuar flavor/degree of bigotry. If you can't handle it, then
leave CSMA. This ain't 'beanbag' we're playing here.

>
> ...but let Nicolas call you a "stalker" and he is suddenly mute.
>
> :-)
>

Oh yeah, I forgot. "Stalker" is an obvious reference to skin color, right?

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MFB

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpu42k$tcd$1...@dont-email.me>,

Way to miss the point!

[-hh]

On Jun 20, 12:20 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article <kpu42k$tc...@dont-email.me>,

>
>
>
>
>
>  Flint <agent...@section-31.net> wrote:
> > On 6/18/2013 2:53 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> > > In article <50168613-d7d4-41aa...@googlegroups.com>,

> > >   -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Alan Baker wrote:

Oh, sorry Mr. Bakr: pedantically speaking, 'twas a *dodged* point.


-hh

[Alan Baker]

In article
<74b688d3-31ed-4133...@n5g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,

Was it? That would imply deliberation and not lack of wit, so are you
sure?

:-)

[Flint]

I missed *nothing*. Your bellyachin was originally based on Nathan's
racism, with a claim it was based on skin color even though nothing
abouty skin color was stated or even implied by "Habeeb".

Since it is evident you made that mistake before, it's not too great a
stretch/inconceivable you may be mistaking "stalker" as well and
somehow trying to make an absurd claim once again...

>>
>> Oh, sorry Mr. Bakr: pedantically speaking, 'twas a *dodged* point.
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Was it? That would imply deliberation and not lack of wit, so are you
> sure?
>
> :-)

Ooooh, I'm soooooooo wounded...cut to the quick, I tellya! I thought
it was quite witty on my part. ::sniff::
>


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MFB

[Alan Baker]

In article <kq0q2s$qgc$3...@dont-email.me>,

I made no claim at all that his racism was based on skin colour.

Wrong again.

[Flint]

Liar.

Message-ID: <alangbaker-B0C8F...@news.shawcable.net>

"No. It is a racial slur. It's about the colour of someone's skin."

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MFB