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Steve

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Aug 22, 2002, 1:21:00 PM8/22/02
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Anyone know whether admin has looked at deleting comp.laptops and
comp.sys.laptop? Don't see much reason to have 3 laptop groups...

rickman

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Aug 22, 2002, 1:39:27 PM8/22/02
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Steve wrote:
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> Anyone know whether admin has looked at deleting comp.laptops and
> comp.sys.laptop? Don't see much reason to have 3 laptop groups...

What is the other group?

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Steve

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Aug 22, 2002, 4:05:44 PM8/22/02
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rickman <spamgo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Anyone know whether admin has looked at deleting comp.laptops and
>> comp.sys.laptop? Don't see much reason to have 3 laptop groups...
>
>What is the other group?

Uhhh, this one? :)

This one is comp.sys.laptops - the one above is comp.sys.laptop

Robert Grizzard

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Aug 22, 2002, 8:43:52 PM8/22/02
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Steve <st...@deletethis.advocate.net> wrote:
> Anyone know whether admin has looked at deleting comp.laptops and
> comp.sys.laptop? Don't see much reason to have 3 laptop groups...

Which admin would that be, Steve?

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Steve

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Aug 22, 2002, 10:06:37 PM8/22/02
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Robert Grizzard <griz...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Anyone know whether admin has looked at deleting comp.laptops and
>> comp.sys.laptop? Don't see much reason to have 3 laptop groups...
>
>Which admin would that be, Steve?

Thought maybe Usenet got involved with the main hierarchies, but I
guess it's the individual ISPs...

Conor

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Aug 23, 2002, 7:43:27 AM8/23/02
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In article <je7amucmo1es5h6mf...@4ax.com>,
st...@DeleteThis.advocate.net says...

> Anyone know whether admin has looked at deleting comp.laptops and
> comp.sys.laptop? Don't see much reason to have 3 laptop groups...
>
Why, because you don't see the need? What about the people who
subscribe to them?

Knob.

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Conor

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Aug 23, 2002, 7:43:48 AM8/23/02
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In article <mgvamu0np6fvdppp9...@4ax.com>,
nos...@atall.xatt.net says...
> What admin?
>
The one in his head.

Conor

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Aug 23, 2002, 7:44:18 AM8/23/02
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In article <m76bmucmvuli76nrm...@4ax.com>,
st...@DeleteThis.advocate.net says...

> Thought maybe Usenet got involved with the main hierarchies, but I
> guess it's the individual ISPs...
>

No, really? Usenet isn't a physical body, its a communications
protocol.

BigMac

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Aug 23, 2002, 8:28:27 AM8/23/02
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Try subscribing to those groups... they receive perhaps one
message every month or so. They have largely been abandoned
by the users. Conor just doesn't understand that once a
newsgroup has been created it's virtually impossible to
delete it due to the nature of the usenet - - every server
in creation has the name of that newsgroup. The effect is
that the number of newsgroups keeps growing and growing and
never shrinks. There are perhaps several thousand newsgroups
that really *shouldn't* be there due to shere neglect. Give
the guy a break.

Ken Maltby

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Aug 23, 2002, 9:33:14 AM8/23/02
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"BigMac" <spit_in_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:LTp99.146806$2p2.6...@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...

> Try subscribing to those groups... they receive perhaps one
> message every month or so. They have largely been abandoned
> by the users. Conor just doesn't understand that once a
> newsgroup has been created it's virtually impossible to
> delete it due to the nature of the usenet - - every server
> in creation has the name of that newsgroup. The effect is
> that the number of newsgroups keeps growing and growing and
> never shrinks. There are perhaps several thousand newsgroups
> that really *shouldn't* be there due to shere neglect. Give
> the guy a break.
>

There is also the "fact" that the major ISP controled servers
(RoadRunner as an example) have next to no interest in
supporting NGs. They look on it as an unexploitable resource,
of interest to a few geeks amouting to a tiny percentage of
there customer base.

The lack of a geewiz graphical interface, with comercialy
exploitable features, dampens their enthusiasm. If the EMail
service and the News Group service had not been linked for
so long, I think they would have dropped the NGs long ago.

Just an o-pine;
Ken


BigMac

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Aug 23, 2002, 11:05:12 AM8/23/02
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*Very* true! Actually I find it to be a most useful service
for resolving tech questions. I still remember my first
venture into the usenet: alt.os.windows95.crash.crash.crash.
The guy who thought up that name had a sense of humor. I
found the answer to my problems there and have been using
the usenet ever since.

Ken Maltby wrote:
> "BigMac" <spit_in_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
news:LTp99.146806$2p2.6...@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...
>

Conor

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Aug 23, 2002, 11:31:54 AM8/23/02
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In article <LTp99.146806$2p2.6...@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
spit_in_...@hotmail.com says...

> Try subscribing to those groups... they receive perhaps one
> message every month or so. They have largely been abandoned
> by the users. Conor just doesn't understand that once a
> newsgroup has been created it's virtually impossible to
> delete it due to the nature of the usenet

Err yes I do, I've been on Usenet for over a decade...

The groups he is referring to are comp.sys.laptops, comp.laptops and
uk.comp.laptops..all of which have a reasonable amouint of traffic and
certainly more than a few posts a day. Perhaps you ant to try a decent
news server.

Steve

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Aug 23, 2002, 11:54:38 AM8/23/02
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"BigMac" <spit_in_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>*Very* true! Actually I find it to be a most useful service
>for resolving tech questions.

Yep, Usenet is by far the best tech support service available. I've
had several pieces of software that would never have been usable
without help from the newsgroups.

Steve

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Aug 23, 2002, 1:04:51 PM8/23/02
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I use Giganews. Kinda surprising they'd carry these groups...


nos...@atall.xatt.net wrote:
>There's no comp.laptops hierarchy in the Big-8, so decent (read
>properly managed) news servers wouldn't carry it. Neither Worldnet or
>Supernews carry it, and both are considered decent news servers by
>many people.
>
>But to answer Steve's original question, the closest thing to a
>central admin for the Big-8 newsgroups in Usenet is Tale, and since
>Steve's news admin carries comp.laptops, they aren't paying attention
>to Tale anyway.

Conor

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Aug 23, 2002, 3:15:55 PM8/23/02
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In article <shlcmuskqa91tsrbq...@4ax.com>,
nos...@atall.xatt.net says...

> There's no comp.laptops hierarchy in the Big-8, so decent (read
> properly managed) news servers wouldn't carry it. Neither Worldnet or
> Supernews carry it, and both are considered decent news servers by
> many people.

Err yes they do. comp.laptops is part of the comp.* hierarchy,
uk.comp.sys.laptops is part of the uk.comp. hierarchy. I know for a
fact supernews carries it and so does usenetserver.

> But to answer Steve's original question, the closest thing to a
> central admin for the Big-8 newsgroups in Usenet is Tale, and since
> Steve's news admin carries comp.laptops, they aren't paying attention
> to Tale anyway.
>

DUMB FUCKING ARSE. There is not a central administration. TALE has fuck
all to do with regulating anything outside their own little cliche.

Go away and learn something then come back.

Conor

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Aug 23, 2002, 3:16:25 PM8/23/02
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In article <8evcmuc2n1qeoejd5...@4ax.com>,
nos...@atall.xatt.net says...

> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:04:51 GMT, Steve
> <st...@DeleteThis.advocate.net> wrote:
>
> >I use Giganews. Kinda surprising they'd carry these groups...
> >
>
> Yup, seems strange.
>
No it doesn't you are both obviously as clueless as each other.

rickman

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Aug 23, 2002, 4:46:50 PM8/23/02
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Conor wrote:
> DUMB FUCKING ARSE. There is not a central administration. TALE has fuck
> all to do with regulating anything outside their own little cliche.
>
> Go away and learn something then come back.

Connor, did your dad yell at you when you didn't know how to do your
homework? Did you get hit a lot around the head and shoulders? What is
behind your behavior in this newsgroup?

Or did you just have a bad egg for breakfast?

Conor

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Aug 23, 2002, 6:10:16 PM8/23/02
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In article <656dmu497fbqscjsf...@4ax.com>,
nos...@atall.xatt.net says...

> comp.laptops is not in the feed that my provider gets from Supernews,
> and it's not listed at http://www.supernews.com/stats/active.txt
> either.

So what? Plenty of others do. Try requesting it and you'll see its
added.

FYI comp.laptops has had in excess of 50 posts in last couple of days
so its hardly quiet.


> I said Big-8 and said nothing about the rest of Usenet.
>
I don't even have a clue who the Big-8 are/is thats how much impact
they/it has on usenet.

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