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Al Franz

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May 14, 2002, 1:07:09 AM5/14/02
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Can someone clear up my confusion with some definitions. What is the
difference from a Card Bus Ethernet Adapter and a PC Card Ethernet Adapter
for a Notebook. Are they both PCMCIA cards.

I am not that familar with notebooks and the Type I and Type II PCMCIA slot
definitions confuse me as well.

Appreciate any clarifiation on this.

Erwan Salim

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May 14, 2002, 2:02:47 AM5/14/02
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see this link:
http://www.techadvice.com/tech/C/CardBus.htm

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Al Franz

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May 14, 2002, 3:05:59 AM5/14/02
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According to that article it gives the impression that there is no
difference from the slot that it plugs into. Thus a Notebook that has a
PCMCIA slot can take either a Card Bus or a PC Card???

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May 14, 2002, 5:23:30 AM5/14/02
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PCMCIA = 16 bit card (*old*)
PC Card = 32 bit (aka Card Bus) card (newer)

Type 1, 2 and 3 = size of the slot that accecpts cards

AFAIK (but I'm not 100% certain) slots in a notebook *today* are for PC
Card. You can use a PCMCIA card in a PC Card compliant slot, but not the
other way around.

There is no differnence between the cards you have.

HTH

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Martin Ramsch

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May 14, 2002, 6:24:14 AM5/14/02
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Al Franz wrote:
> > http://www.techadvice.com/tech/C/CardBus.htm

> According to that article it gives the impression that there is no
> difference from the slot that it plugs into. Thus a Notebook that
> has a PCMCIA slot can take either a Card Bus or a PC Card???

Cardbus and PCMCIA slots look the same, but the older PCMCIA cards
use 16 bit technology, the newer Cardbus cards are 32 bit.

Old PCMCIA cards should work in Cardbus slots, too,
but Cardbus cards won't work in old PCMCIA slots!

The term PC Card is a little bit ambigous, because unfortunately
you can see it being used for both technologies ... (I think it was
introduced as a synonym for Cardbus cards.)

Cheers,
Martin

Halfton

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May 14, 2002, 8:09:06 AM5/14/02
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"Al Franz" <alb...@netmation.com> wrote in message
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> Can someone clear up my confusion with some definitions. What is the
> difference from a Card Bus Ethernet Adapter and a PC Card Ethernet Adapter
> for a Notebook. Are they both PCMCIA cards.
>
> I am not that familar with notebooks and the Type I and Type II PCMCIA
slot
> definitions confuse me as well.

Al
this should help
http://www.pcmcia.org/faq.htm

enjoy
Joe


Super SubZero

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May 14, 2002, 2:12:49 AM5/14/02
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PC Card = 16bit card. (sort of like a 16-bit ISA card for a laptop)
CardBus = 32bit card. (sort of like a PCI card for a laptop)

If you have a CardBus slot, you want the CardBus card. Cardbus slots will
accept either type of card. Most laptops made in the last 3 years or so use
Cardbus slots. Check with your laptop maker to make sure. Device Manager
usually says CardBus blahblahblah if they are Cardbus slots as well.

The "Type" indicates the physical size of the card. Type I and Type II are
very similar in size, only about 1.5mm height difference. Most laptops can
accept two Type I/II devices. You can tell which type a card is by looking
at it. Type I cards are normally perfect in dimensions, ie. every side will
be smooth and flat. Memory cards are usually Type I. Type II cards
generally have a slightly raised area on the top and/or bottom of the card.
Modems and other connectivity-based cards are normally Type II. There is a
Type III, which is essentially a double-height card. In a typical 2-slot
laptop, it would go in the bottom slot and take up the area for the top slot
as well.

-SSZ

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Halfton

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May 14, 2002, 3:56:55 PM5/14/02
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> PC Card = 16bit card. (sort of like a 16-bit ISA card for a laptop)

Pccard = basic form factor
Type I, II & III = physical dimensions "mainly thickness"

PCIC = ISA/16bit bus
Cardbus = PCI/32bit bus

this site has more descriptions/definitions & bus capabilities
http://www.pcmcia.org/faq.htm

hth
Joe

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