lost bios password
Andy
removing the system battery and the main battery and leaving it to die, but
it won't
have also removed the mother bord to look for a clear cmos jumper but there
is not one can anyone help please ?
st...@globalnet.co.uk
John560e
Be prepared to show proof of ownership and pay a fee for assistance.
Old Sarge
know now to come here and learn how to unlock stolen notebooks. If the
custodian of the notebook has no ghost lingering, they shouldn't be afraid
to contact the proper people to get it unlocked.
John560e <john...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990425075029...@ng-fc1.aol.com...
Robin
But people do forget/lose passwords... & it seems a bit rich
to have to pay money to access what is rightfully yours! Surely the
whole point of security systems is as a deterrent.... If someone
really wants to nick your stereo they will smash the window leap in &
get it.. but that is more hassle then walking though an open door &
thus things aren't stolen. Passwords are the same... a deterrent for
potential thieves... surely the fact that there is a way around them
implies that there is on occasions a legitimate need for unlocking.
Robin
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:23:24 -0700, "Old Sarge" <armyr...@att.net>
wrote:
Godzilla7
>to have to pay money to access what is rightfully yours!
If you are stupid enough to put a bios password on your laptop without
writing it down and saving it someplace where you will NOT lose it, this is
eqivalent to putting a steering wheel lock on your car and losing the key,
or locking yourself out of your house, etc, etc..
You should always have a backup key or plan, and you should be aware of the
consequences of losing said password BEFORE putting it on in the first
place!!
If you are not willing to prove ownership of the laptop and pay a fee for
removing the bios password, don't use a bios password, simple.
-G7
JJ
a computer?
Robin <rd...@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:3727967...@nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk...
> True,
> But people do forget/lose passwords... & it seems a bit rich
> >> Be prepared to show proof of ownership and pay a fee for assistance.
> >
>
M. Talley
Arno Martens <ON...@idirect.com> wrote in message
news:373e08f7...@n2.idirect.com...
> On 28 Apr 1999, ao...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (jerry dixon) , wrote:
>
> >If you cannot remember a simple password than you really should NOT be
> >a laptop owner in the first place. I find it rather ironic that someone
> >who uses a password to protect their property actually winds up not being
> >able to use it. I am hoping you remember the security code to your home
if
> >you have one such device. Duh
> >
> Isn't that a little rash?
>
> Years ago, I was using Bluewave on a BBS and set up <F1> for the user name
and
> <F2> for my password. When the BBS has a HDD crash after 2 years I had to
call
> the operator to re-subscibe me.
> 2 years ago I set up DUNS for my Internet connection and just click on the
icon
> in Agent to get connected. I have not used it manually since. I know the
word
> but I have to look it up to see what weird combination of upper/lower case
and
> spaces I used.
> Same with Clearnet PCS.
>
> Passwords that are used once in a blue moon are not easily remembered.
>
> As you notice, I have not mentioned passwords for the Bios, applications
or
> files.
> Compound that by the "space filler" news writer suggestion that say to
change
> your password at least once a month and make sure you use odd
letter/number
> combinations and you'll have to agree that there will be quite a mess.
>
> I have been using Laptops as my only computers since January '88 and will
not
> use a password, lest I forget.
It is one thing to forget an password set to autologon. Once you set it up,
you may very well forget it. This is not the case with Laptops. You cannot
autologon a BIOS password. Everytime you boot that machine, you need to
logon. Over time, you cannot help but memorize the password. That is why
people find it pretty ridiculous when someone states that they have
forgotten their password. You know....one excuse I have not seen yet is
"I was in a car wreck and I suffered amnesia and forgot my password. I
forgot my name so I am unable to tell the manufacturer who the owner is.
Can someone help?"
Now that would be original.
Robin
think of first.
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:56:38 -0400, "JJ" <NoS...@My.Address.Org>
wrote:
jerry dixon
a laptop owner in the first place. I find it rather ironic that someone
who uses a password to protect their property actually winds up not being
able to use it. I am hoping you remember the security code to your home if
you have one such device. Duh
Andy (st...@globalnet.co.uk) wrote:
: I have a dell latitude xpi cd and don't have the bios password I have tried
Emanuel Brown
(though there are people who apparently let their laptops sit idle long
enough for this to occur). Most people have simply bought used (and in some
cases, likely stolen) laptops on the cheap and hope they get lucky here.
For most owners, I still recommend writing the password down at home.
It's not with the laptop for a thief to get access, but if you *do* forget
it for some reason, you've got it somewhere. In my case, I write it in the
owners manual (along with the serial #, the phone # for tech support, and
the serial # for Windows in case I have to reinstall) and leave the thing
on my bookshelf. Unlikely to get lost *or* leave the next legitimate owner
high and dry.
epbrown
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Plato90s
laptop for my employer. There was confidential data on the laptop, so I put a
BIOS password on it. Then the laptop was shelfed for several weeks, and I had
the damnest time trying to remember the password.
>Subject: Re: lost bios password
>From: epbr...@att.net (Emanuel Brown)
>Date: 4/28/99 9:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3727b08...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>
Doug Griggs
that are password protected?
Doug
Wolfgang Rupprecht
"Doug Griggs" <plow...@alaweb.com> writes:
> What I want to know is how many thieves actually return Laptops
> that are password protected?
Thats only part of the equation. One also has to ask how many thieves
don't bother to steal a second laptop, figuring that if it is password
protected like the first one its not worth the trouble.
We have just heard a report here in this newsgroup of a laptop that
was recovered due to the bios password thwarting the thief.
-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang Rupprecht <wolfga...@dailyplanet.wsrcc.com>
http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/
DGPS signals via the Internet http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/gps/dgps-ip.html
Old Sarge
This should be a lesson for all.
While on a visit, my mother, my nephew, and myself went out for awhile. My
sister was at work. My mother sent my nephew and I home ahead of her (two
cars), but before we left, my mother asked my nephew if he knew the password
for the alarm. He said he did.
Well when we opened the door of my sister's house, the alarm started
beeping. I waited outside while my nephew went in to reset the alarm. Well
he forgot the code. Knowing what was coming next, I grabbed the portable
phone and we both went outside. The alarm went off. The alarm company
called. I told the operator our problem and she wanted a password before
she would reset the alarm. Well I took a few guesses and bingo.... it was
her kid knickname. The alarm was reset. Then my sister had me set her up
on the Internet. She wanted to use the same password. I found out, this
was the only password she uses. I chewed her out about it.
If I could just guess her password, anyone that knew her when she was a kid
could easily figure it out as well.
Bios passwords on Notebooks are like ignition lock out devices on cars. You
cannot use it if you steal it. So what if the thief doesn't return it or
leave it someplace where it can be found. Satisfaction that the thief
couldn't use your notebook should be reason enough to respect that bios
password. Also, it keeps prying eyes from looking at your "stuff".
Legitimate owners should call the manufacturer for a "backdoor" password.
Thiefs just have to ask here and someone will gladly give them the secret to
unlocking YOUR notebook.
Wolfgang Rupprecht <wolf...@dailyplanet.wsrcc.com> wrote in message
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DomiKnoW
never knew it in the first place???
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:42:18 -0400, "M. Talley"
<mta...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>Arno Martens <ON...@idirect.com> wrote in message
>news:373e08f7...@n2.idirect.com...
>> On 28 Apr 1999, ao...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (jerry dixon) , wrote:
>>
>> >If you cannot remember a simple password than you really should NOT be
>> >a laptop owner in the first place. I find it rather ironic that someone
>> >who uses a password to protect their property actually winds up not being
>> >able to use it. I am hoping you remember the security code to your home
>if
>> >you have one such device. Duh
>> >
Neil East
<mta...@mindspring.com> writes
change things. I had the password for nearly two years before I found
that the password was incorrectly written down. Only need the password
now to update the ram. But now as I have ram I cant use, I will also
need to change my motherboard and my hardisk and I will just be adding
to IBMs bank balance.
Now I have thought of trying to change each letter in turn to see if I
can find the error, but I'll wear the on off switch out.
--
Neil East
Time fly's like an arrow
\\\\\\________________\
////// /
Fruit flies like a banana
M. Talley
news:7gZTpCAZ...@eastybeasty.demon.co.uk...
> what about supervisor passwords, You only require them when you need to
> change things. I had the password for nearly two years before I found
> that the password was incorrectly written down. Only need the password
> now to update the ram. But now as I have ram I cant use, I will also
> need to change my motherboard and my hardisk and I will just be adding
> to IBMs bank balance.
>
> Now I have thought of trying to change each letter in turn to see if I
> can find the error, but I'll wear the on off switch out.
> --
> Neil East
Easy, just call the manufacturer and they will help you out after confirming
that you are the owner. You rather spend big bucks on a new motherboard,
hard disk, etc. then call IBM and maybe spend a couple of little bucks for
them helping you out with your password problem? What am I missing here?
What kind of password did you come up with that you would write it down
wrong in the first place? It must of been one hell of a password to keep
theives out as well as yourself. Do you really want people to be able to
post on here to get bypasses to BIOs passwords? If so, why did you bother
putting one on in the first place?
Wolf
After 2 or 3 years, trying to find the original papers for ANYTHING can
be a challenge...and that is assuming that you bought the thing new to
begin with. I know on all 3 of the laptops I own (two obtained through
legitimate purchase and one salvaged when work discarded it as scrap)
trying to build a paper trail back to prove ownership to the degree these
companies want would be damn near impossible since I paid cash for them
used and I am probably at least the 3rd if not 4th person to possess these
machines. My solution is to simply not use passwords, because I know that
if I used one and forgot it, I'd be further ahead just tossing the machine
overboard and finding another one.
Unlike cars and boats and other titled property, trying to prove ownership
of a piece of equipment that doesn't have a clear record of transactions
back to the original manufacturer is not an easy task. And many companies
won't help you if you aren't the ORIGINAL purchaser...try to buy a
replacement part from Gateway (not get it for free, but pay full retail
for it!) if you bought one of their laptops used...they use the 'it might
be stolen' excuse to avoid selling you the part, in hope that you'l give
up and buy a new laptop when there's nothing wrong with the old one except
a broken floppy or CD-ROM. Call Winbook and you'll get the same results.
It used to be that the burden of proof was on the accuser...around here it
seems like you have to prove yourself innocent instead.
--
Wolf
wo...@ospa.spa.vcu.edu
Hannes Birnbacher
> My solution is to simply not use passwords, because I know that
>if I used one and forgot it, I'd be further ahead just tossing the machine
>overboard and finding another one.
Yep, most developers seem not to use passwords themselves or they
would know that in modern life, you have up to thirty or more (bank
card, credit card, cellular phone, hotmail login, hotmail backup
password for problems, first bank (internet), second bank (telephone),
third bank (internet), cash machine from third bank, internet
provider, old type mailbox, backup password for cellular phone company
in case of problems, pager, TV set because of Children, Car radio,
electronic car lock, normal login on Linux experimental installation,
root login on Linux experimental installation...), and it is
ridiculous to change them monthly or choose nonsense words.
Passwords on Windows or a laptop are furthermore useless, to my
opinion, because everybody could insert a boot disk and copy the raw
files in the first case, or disconnect the hard disk, which seems to
be very easy on a lap top. So on a PC, they are good against the quick
view from a visitor at confidential data, and for this I can use one
or very few for everything. Some passwords can be chosen by myself,
others are given to me from somebody else, so I chose to use the
latter ones for more purposes. Hope the sysop of my private mailbox,
for example, will never find out that, if he steals my credit card, he
will be able to withdraw cash money with the same password or numbers
which I use for login, but this is almost impossible.