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will MIcrosoft's sinking drag down Intel ??

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Nomen Nescio

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Jun 7, 2012, 10:04:06 AM6/7/12
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many reviewers of Win8 have been very negative.
even suggesting that Microsoft will drop to a distant
third behind Apple and Google.
that the tablets will take over
there may be a blip as businesses upgrade to Win7 before
it disappears, then doom
and ubuntu linux has failed to convert granma
so sales of the x86 CPU will decline
what means this for Intel?
(AMD will surely implode...)

Intel Guy

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Jun 8, 2012, 8:21:37 AM6/8/12
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Nomen Nescio wrote:

> many reviewers of Win8 have been very negative.
> even suggesting that Microsoft will drop to a distant
> third behind Apple and Google.

And you had to post this through an anonymous re-mailer?

Odd.

Trent

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Jun 8, 2012, 8:40:49 AM6/8/12
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:21:37 -0400 Intel Guy <In...@Guy.com> wrote in
Message id: <4FD1EE51...@Guy.com>:
Not really... Trolls love anonymous re-mailers.

Intel Guy

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Jun 9, 2012, 9:01:09 PM6/9/12
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Trent wrote:

> >> many reviewers of Win8 have been very negative.
> >> even suggesting that Microsoft will drop to a distant
> >> third behind Apple and Google.
> >
> > And you had to post this through an anonymous re-mailer?
> >
> > Odd.
>
> Not really... Trolls love anonymous re-mailers.

But - the post didn't seem particularly troll-ish.

How much of Intel's business is in some way tied to a Microsoft OS?

Yousuf Khan

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Jun 11, 2012, 1:23:58 AM6/11/12
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On 10/06/2012 7:01 AM, Intel Guy wrote:
> But - the post didn't seem particularly troll-ish.
>
> How much of Intel's business is in some way tied to a Microsoft OS?

Probably 99%.

Yousuf Khan

JJ

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Jun 12, 2012, 1:14:27 PM6/12/12
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LOL... sadly true.

But Windows 8 is a gamble by Microsoft. If it does suck, it'll suck, and
people will just keep Windows 7. Microsoft will eventually had to follow
demands.

Besides, Windows 8 is more focused for embedded devices. PCs will still
live on. Intel will live on. Haven't you see "The Last Mimzy"?


Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in news:4fd58077
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Yousuf Khan

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Jun 19, 2012, 5:19:03 AM6/19/12
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I think Windows 8 will be generally successful on the tablets (both ARM
& x86), not entirely sure there is anything compelling about it on
traditional PC's though. I'm sure there will be a few upgraders to
Windows 8, or most likely most people will just get it preinstalled with
their latest PC's and they won't have any choice on the matter. Windows
8 actually looks like it may be going backwards on the PC vs. Windows 7,
as it's going to be removing the Aero interface.

However, Microsoft has made one giant move towards embracing ARM by
making its own ARM-based tablet:

Microsoft's Surface Tablets Raise the Bar for PC Pals - Businessweek
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-06-18/microsofts-surface-tablets-raise-the-bar-for-pc-rivals

There's supposed to be a bigger tablet which will likely be x86
announced in a couple of months though. It may either be AMD or Intel,
no word yet.

Yousuf Khan

Robert Myers

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Sep 28, 2012, 6:10:30 PM9/28/12
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On Monday, June 11, 2012 1:23:58 AM UTC-4, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 10/06/2012 7:01 AM, Intel Guy wrote:
>
> > But - the post didn't seem particularly troll-ish.
>
> >
>
> > How much of Intel's business is in some way tied to a Microsoft OS?
>
>

Hardly. About 50% of Intel's profits were coming from notebook chips the last time I looked, which was a while ago. It's fairly safe to assume that most of those notebooks, which may itself be a threatened species, run Windows. That's a scary number, but it's not 99%, and there are an awful lot of server, enterprise, and technical computers running x86 from Intel using some OS other than Windows.

Robert.

Yousuf Khan

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Sep 30, 2012, 1:11:11 PM9/30/12
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More than half of the Intel-based servers are also running Windows,
followed by Linux. Besides the entire server market by volume wouldn't
even amount to 1% of their overall consumer business. They're talking
hundreds of thousands of servers per year, vs. hundreds of millions of
consumer PCs.

Yousuf Khan

Robert Myers

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Oct 1, 2012, 12:12:49 PM10/1/12
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If you will take the time to read my post carefully, you will notice that I talked about Intel *profits*. Server chips are much more profitable (for the moment, at least) than consumer chips. If the consumer business goes away, that will leave Intel with an awful lot of amazing foundry capacity to find a use for, which is probably why Intel has made (limited) efforts to sell foundry services.

Robert.

Intel Guy

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Oct 3, 2012, 10:26:25 AM10/3/12
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Robert Myers (a google-groper) wrote:

A A A Hardly. About 50% of Intel's profits were coming from notebook
A A
A A A the last time I looked, which was a while ago. It's fairly safe
A A
A A A assume that most of those notebooks, which may itself be a
A A
A A A species, run Windows. That's a scary number, but it's not 99%,
A A
A A A there are an awful lot of server, enterprise, and technical
A A
A A A running x86 from Intel using some OS other than Windows.

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This is par for the course for Google, who has incrementally been
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This latest change (double-spacing quoted material) seems to have
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Thost that are brain-dead enough to experience usenet through google
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Robert Myers

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Oct 3, 2012, 12:29:00 PM10/3/12
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Well, "Intel guy," I'm glad that your manifest qualities do not reflect on a company I admire. The double spacing did show up in this dialog box, and I deleted it, since it bothers you so much.

I have a Usenet subscription that I am paying for but I am not using it.

a. I'm extremely busy and have rarely read or posted in the last year or so.
b. While I am not brain dead, I am getting older, and the plethora of passwords and the constant hassle of remembering and resetting them just isn't worth it for any service that I rarely use but that requires a password.
c. There is a newsreader/mail client problem for which, so far as I can tell, there is no currently available solution that is even remotely adapted to my diverse collection of computers and operating systems--other than Google.

If your hostility, aggression, and rudeness show up in other contexts, they are probably holding back your career. Seek help.

Robert.

Intel Guy

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Oct 4, 2012, 9:00:43 AM10/4/12
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Robert Myers wrote:

> > Thost that are brain-dead enough to experience usenet through
> > google probably are not seeing this.
>
> I have a Usenet subscription that I am paying for but I am not
> using it.

Another dumb thing - paying for access to text usenet groups.

> a. I'm extremely busy and have rarely read or posted in the last
> year or so.

irrelevant.

> b. While I am not brain dead, I am getting older, and the
> plethora of passwords and the constant hassle of remembering
> and resetting them just isn't worth it

There are free usenet servers. Have been for many years.

> c. There is a newsreader/mail client problem for which, so
> far as I can tell, there is no currently available solution
> that is even remotely adapted to my diverse collection of
> computers and operating systems--other than Google.

Again, too bad you know so little about usenet.

Point your usenet client to this server:

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> If your hostility, aggression, and rudeness show up in other
> contexts, they are probably holding back your career.
> Seek help.

Get a grip Robert. I'm only trying to help - and to improve on the
dammage that google-groups does by encouraging people to make ugly posts
by defaulting to full-quoting and (now) double-spacing.

Trent

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Oct 4, 2012, 9:07:32 AM10/4/12
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:00:43 -0400 Intel Guy <In...@Guy.com> wrote in
Message id: <506D887B...@Guy.com>:

>
>Get a grip Robert. I'm only trying to help - and to improve on the
>dammage that google-groups does by encouraging people to make ugly posts
>by defaulting to full-quoting and (now) double-spacing.

Don't forget non-existent line wrapping. What a mess the latest GG posting
server is...

Robert Myers

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Oct 4, 2012, 12:15:10 PM10/4/12
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On Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:58:47 AM UTC-4, Intel Guy wrote:

>
> Get a grip Robert. I'm only trying to help - and to improve on the
> dammage that google-groups does by encouraging people to make ugly posts
> by defaulting to full-quoting and (now) double-spacing.

You'd make a great salesman. Get a spell checker and pay attention to it.

Robert.

Robert Myers

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Oct 4, 2012, 12:50:06 PM10/4/12
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On Thursday, October 4, 2012 9:07:35 AM UTC-4, Trent wrote:

>
> Don't forget non-existent line wrapping. What a mess the latest GG posting
> server is...

If you have a problem with Google, write a letter to Google. Leave me alone. I've dealt with bullies in plenty of other contexts, and I can certainly deal with them here.

Robert.
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