Strange Beasts: PS/2 Server 195/295
Daniel Hamilton
I'm somewhat of a newbie to this group, and to PS/2s. I've done some
reading about this very strange, awkward, PS/2 (if that's what you want
to call it) called the Server 195 and Server 295.
Does anyone have one of these things? If you do, would you please share
some pictures of it/them? They seem very mysterious. From what I've
read, most (if not all) of them got recalled by IBM because they were
so, um, let us say, quirky. :)
--Daniel
Louis Ohland
spoke of a system with such problems that IBM quietly took them back. I
scrounged a few factoids on them, along with some so-so cutaway line
drawings, but these puppies are quite scarce and I have never heard of a
sighting in the wild.
David L. Beem
> ...I've done some reading about this very strange, awkward, PS/2
> (if that's what you want to call it) called the Server 195 and Server
> 295. Does anyone have one of these things? If you do, would you
> please share some pictures of it/them? They seem very mysterious.
> From what I've read, most (if not all) of them got recalled by IBM
> because they were so, um, let us say, quirky.
cards perpendicular to the mainboard, that can sag with gravity) was allowed
to live. Both the 195 (single 486 CPU) & 295 (two 486 CPUs) used the same
case. I have a stock IBM picture (also online) of the outside & another
showing the OS/2 development floor in Boca Raton where the old mainframe
room was used, with row upon row of the units.
David
Da...@IBMMuseum.com
Daniel Hamilton
I went to your site (www.ibmmuseum.com) and it seems to still be down
from a hacker attack? Tell me all of your files are safe! :)
Was that where the pictures you where mentioning are located?
--Daniel
David L. Beem
> I went to your site (www.ibmmuseum.com) and it seems to still
> be down from a hacker attack? Tell me all of your files are safe!
SCSILEVL project. Haven't got around to updating the site lately.
> Was that where the pictures you where mentioning are located?
Dennis had one up, but looks like just the files now. The pictures in
print are from an IBM LAN development book. The authors use the OS/2
development area as an example, charted with software & systems used
throughout the complex (also showing some side pictutes of the PS/2 assembly
line, with mainly Model 70s & 57/77 units visible; For the date of the book
750-series Thinkpads are also mentioned).
David
Da...@IBMMuseum.com
Daniel Hamilton
Man, that really stinks. Did you skin that jerk alive that hacked into
your server? Might I ask what kind of operating system you were running
on that server?
--Daniel
David L. Beem
> Did you skin that jerk alive that hacked into your server?
have no monetary damages (in fact hosting is provided free to me for working
here). The issue is resolved as much as it is going to get.
> Might I ask what kind of operating system you were running on that server?
It was an inside job (my account used against me) so the OS doesn't
matter. The hacker thought I could rebuild the data easier than I can, but
knows now I was aware he did it. Still have to deal with him every few weeks
with my job duties.
David
Da...@IBMMuseum.com
Dennis Smith
daniel_...@cavs.msstate.edu says...
>
>Does anyone have one of these things? If you do, would you please share
>some pictures of it/them? They seem very mysterious. From what I've
>read, most (if not all) of them got recalled by IBM because they were
>so, um, let us say, quirky. :)
I have some pictures of a Server 195/295 that were e-mailed to me from an
IBM employee years ago. I'll have to do some digging but they have to be
on one of my PS/2s ...
As soon as Peter chimes in he can tell you how horrible they were. They
weren't even made by IBM.
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Dennis Smith
-1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe-
< http://ps2page.tripod.com/my71ta/tapage.html >
-1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red-
-1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero-
_________________________________________________________________
Dennis Smith
says...
>
>I have some pictures of a Server 195/295 that were e-mailed to me from an
>IBM employee years ago. I'll have to do some digging but they have to be
>on one of my PS/2s ...
Here we go ...
http://ps2page.tripod.com/mod295.jpg
http://ps2page.tripod.com/8600_1.jpg
http://ps2page.tripod.com/8600_2.jpg
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Dennis Smith
-1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe-
Gerard Hogervorst
Jerry
Dennis Smith wrote:
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Brought to you from an IBM PC SERVER 500, now at 180 mhz,w/mmx.
Microchannel computing at it's finest!(:^)
Daniel Hamilton
Thanks for the pics. I've read that they were made by some third party
and where rebadged by IBM...which thankfully makes them not really
PS/2s. They don't even remotely resemble an IBM of that era. Those
wouldn't make a good hobby computer anyway, I mean it's the size of a
deep freezer. :)
--Dan
Peterwendt
>As soon as Peter chimes in he can tell you how horrible they were. They
>weren't even made by IBM.
Me again. Sigh.
Back then I saw some at a customer who was a "true blue" company and purchased
all of them - even the biggest crap. Not a surprise that they'd even ran the
unfortunate 3514 SCSI expansion enclosure.
I must have the official (german IIRC) sales flyer for the 195/295 around
somewhere. Shows some inside pictures as well. Will go and dig it out after my
girl-friends birthday and scan it.
Very friendly greetings from Peter in Germany
http://www.mcamafia.de/mcapage0/mcaindex.htm
Helmut P. Einfalt
> my girl-friends birthday.
Anke's birthday is today?
All the best to her, Peter!
Helmut
--
All typos © My Knotty Fingers Ltd. Capacity Dept.
Peterwendt
>Anke's birthday is today?
Yep. The worse part: it's her 40th ... ;-)
>All the best to her, Peter!
Thanks: I tell her in a minute.
We're just back from the "day out" in a near by restaurant.
Didn't want the hassle with all the meals and suchlike.
Rick Ekblaw
> http://ps2page.tripod.com/mod295.jpg
That's the first time I've seen a Server 295 box, but the case design
is familiar to me -- some of the early DEC AlphaServers used that case
in a darker color, similar to the IBM "Industrial PC" grey-green
color. That design was not a very good one, as it was big and
impressive-looking, but it wasted space and had poor airflow
characteristics. If you loaded it up with hard drives, you quickly
ran into cooling problems.
Rick Ekblaw
Paul Ryan
> In article <cn41i6$7af$1...@news.doit.wisc.edu>, ps2...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com
> says...
>
>>I have some pictures of a Server 195/295 that were e-mailed to me from an
>>IBM employee years ago. I'll have to do some digging but they have to be
>>on one of my PS/2s ...
>
>
> Here we go ...
>
> http://ps2page.tripod.com/mod295.jpg
> http://ps2page.tripod.com/8600_1.jpg
> http://ps2page.tripod.com/8600_2.jpg
>
I love the look of them. Very HP.
Paul
olande...@gmail.com
I installed the first IBM Server 295 to EVER leave the factory. I had to mark it with serialnumber 0000001 myself.
It was installed in Denmark.
It had some issues with installing the OS/2 server software. I called the lab who developed it, they didn't know that it had been shipped to us. They were still developing some stuff on it.
I have just contacted the customer for who I installed it, to enquire if they still had the beast, but it was been junked years ago.
The server 295 was running for years without any problems, and was quite quick and stabil.
Louis Ohland
Never had one, big, power hungry. Here are the files I collected (also
on http://ps-2.kev009.com/pccbbs/ )
Kinda cool, definitely ultra-nerd....
If someone has more repressed 195 or 295 memories, by all means please
relax, release, relief...
Dennis Smith
Lorenzo Mollicone has just located a PS/2 Server 195 and 295 system. The 195
looks very rough but maybe both of them will run after a good cleaning and some
minor repairs.
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 7:07:44 AM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
> http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohlandl/8600/Server_195.html
>
> Never had one, big, power hungry. Here are the files I collected (also
> on http://ps-2.kev009.com/pccbbs/ )
>
> Kinda cool, definitely ultra-nerd....
>
> If someone has more repressed 195 or 295 memories, by all means please
> relax, release, relief...
>
Louis Ohland
plainly states "Unit wired for" and a red sticker points to either 115
or 230.
It does NOT appear to be auto ranging.... As in magic smoke escaping...