4055 InfoWindow monitor arrives
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The most elaborate monitor I have ever seen (but someone should
send me a Professional Graphics Monitor and/or 3275 Plasma so I can
compare). Definately the best $20 I have spent in awhile (well, there
was that other time...). Better than the condition the seller
described.
David
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William R. Walsh
> Hi Guys & Gal,
Just one gal? :-)
> The most elaborate monitor I have ever seen (but someone should
> send me a Professional Graphics Monitor and/or 3275 Plasma so I can
> compare). Definately the best $20 I have spent in awhile (well, there
> was that other time...). Better than the condition the seller
> described.
What all will this monitor do, and do you have any pictures of it?
William
Saskia Bormann
> The most elaborate monitor I have ever seen (but someone should
> send me a Professional Graphics Monitor and/or 3275 Plasma so I can
> compare). Definately the best $20 I have spent in awhile (well, there
> was that other time...). Better than the condition the seller
> described.
Is it this one:
http://www.chem.uiuc.edu/clcwebsite/graphics/jenny250.gif
? Pictures please!
Saskia
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William> Just one gal? :-)
Yes, because I don't know where Su is at the moment.
Saskia> Is it this one:
Saskia> http://www.chem.uiuc.edu/clcwebsite/graphics/jenny250.gif
Saskia> ? Pictures please!
Yes, it is.
William> What all will this monitor do, and do you have any
William> pictures of it?
Other than the one Saskia gave & the pictures the seller took
down, I know of no others yet. Today I am leaving for the weekend, so I
will just have to put you both in suspense. Here is what the seller had
up:
"IBM 4055 InfoWindow Touch-Screen Display.
Type 4055. S/N 0011435. P/N 8575154. Dated Sept. 1987.
The IBM 4055 InfoWindow Touch-Screen Display provides the ability to
display both NTSC formatted composite video from a videodisc player and
RGB formatted text and graphics from an IBM Personal Computer on its
color display monitor. Dual stereo speakers contained within the 4055
provide audio output. Images from an attached optional other equipment
manufacturer (OEM) videodisc player and IBM Personal Computer can be
presented individually or simultaneously through the use of an overlay
technique. The user can control the presentation sequence through the
use of a touch-sensitive screen or the computer keyboard.
I have tested only with composite video (NTSC). One photo shows display
of color bars from my color generator. To enter composite video mode,
the video mode button on the back needs to be pushed after turning the
monitor on, it doesn't seem to retain the mode after powering off and
then on again.
There is some label residue on top of the case.
Minor damage (chipped) to top right corner."
I am not able to find the damage he talks about. There was a
copper shield contact floating around inside that I removed (the seller
showed it operational, although UPS did deliver it to me & not the
neighbor a block away this time; 29th, 30th 31st, what is the
difference?). It ties into the InfoWindow adapters:
http://www.gilanet.com/ohlandl/Infowindow/Infowindow.html
David
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Saskia Bormann
> The IBM 4055 InfoWindow Touch-Screen Display provides the ability to
> display both NTSC formatted composite video from a videodisc player and
> RGB formatted text and graphics from an IBM Personal Computer on its
Here's an application + some more (bad) pictures:
http://www.chem.uiuc.edu/clcwebsite/history.html
Have fun, Dave ;o)
IBMMuseum
> ...I am really just using it for TV monitor. I have never found the right
> drivers and software to use the touch screen and the EGA graphics
> won't support much more than W/31. It does make a great TV tho.
A post from Fred Spencer in June of 2000 said that Carlyle Smith
helped him to have a fully working InfoWindow setup on a Model 80
(knowing Fred, what else?). Be interesting if he still has it running
(or at the university links Saskia is giving, although I just had their
whole site down). I begged a Model 50 from my surplus guy a year ago
that had both adapters, but I think it was paired with the small
850x-looking composite monitor I also got from him.
> If you have the whole setup, with the laser disk and 3363, I have
> a set of "learning system" disks.
Nope, just the Model 50 with the adapters (& hopefully some
software) & the monitor. Brad offered to send a videodisc player some
months ago I thought, or I can pick one up on eBay. I've also got to go
over the adapters & make sure the "video controller" isn't downlevel as
Louis's page describes.
Next week I can get some pictures up (the better camera is in
Mexico right now, with me having an older model). The copper shield
piece needs to go back wherever it came from ideally. I think the
monitor doesn't hold the settings as the seller described mainly
because the lithum battery might be flat.
David
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Fred Mau
@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> (but someone should send me a Professional Graphics Monitor and/or 3275
> Plasma so I can compare)....
Are you talking about the old XT/AT-Era "Professional Graphics Display" ?
Or is there something newer that also uses that name ?
I had one of these "Professional Graphics Display" monitors for a while in
the late '80s, it sat in my closet for about 2 years because I could never
find a used PGA card (And new ones were about $3K as I recall), finally
ended up dumping it.
I've seen one or two of the monitors come through the local recycler since
then, but I've STILL never seen the card.
- FM -
Fred Mau
news:hb8bj198jlsgeg9jv...@4ax.com:
>>I had one of these "Professional Graphics Display" monitors for a
>>while in the late '80s, it sat in my closet for about 2 years because
>>I could never find a used PGA card (And new ones were about $3K as I
>>recall), finally ended up dumping it.
>>
>>I've seen one or two of the monitors come through the local recycler
>>since then, but I've STILL never seen the card.
>>
>> - FM -
>
>
> There was a hack to use the PGA on a VGA (or maybe EGA?) controller. I
> saw a guy in Atlanta who had a warehouse full he was selling with the
> hack
It would have to be a hack for VGA because the PGA was analog, not TTL like
EGA even though it had a DB9. (I'm running out of TLAs).
And the pinout was different than the (early) DB9 VGAs; PGA had R-G-B on
pins 1-2-3 respectively, with GND on 6-7-8. VGA had R-G-B on 3-4-5 with 1-
2-6 as ground.
But even with the pinout hacked, there was still a problem of frequency.
For some odd reason they used a horizontal frequency of 30.48 khz for PGA
and then used 31.50 as the standard for VGA. Back in the day when the best
AT-class video card I had was a fixed frequency "paradise" card, it wasn't
possible to get enough adjustment out of the monitor to match. With some of
todays cards with adjustable frequency, I could see it being possible.
- FM -
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> Are you talking about the old XT/AT-Era "Professional Graphics Display" ?
> Or is there something newer that also uses that name ? I had one of
> these "Professional Graphics Display" monitors for a while in the
> late '80s, it sat in my closet for about 2 years because I could never find
> a used PGA card (And new ones were about $3K as I recall), finally
> ended up dumping it. I've seen one or two of the monitors come through
> the local recycler since then, but I've STILL never seen the card.
cards. Pics coming soon of the 4055 monitor....
David
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David L. Beem
that was floating around inside. Like to know where it belongs.
David
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Louis Ohland
the case, more like on the shield or PCB.
Evil-Dave, those are BNC bulkhead connectors for RG-52 or suchnot. How
retro. Do you have a better shot of the ports on the back? Is there a
sticker a-la the 6091 with adjustments? Who is the OEM?
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David, those are some nice pictures. I find the fact that the monitor
has an actual cooling fan very interesting. Is there some onboard
"intelligence" inside this monitor? What video modes can it do?
I'm with Louis on the placement of the copper clip...it probably
connects the chassis to the case for grounding purposes. You'll find
similar clips lining the back of the PSU in a 55SX. I think there was
at least one in the 25SX as well, but it was not copper colored.
William
IBMMuseum
>>> Last picture has the copper clip that was floating
>>> around inside. Like to know where it belongs.
>> doubt it's for the case, more like on the shield or PCB.
> non-conductive.
would have gone anyway. There was one busted screwhead retainer for the
input/output connection cards, so current theory is it went under the
lip of that. Damage en transit maybe, with pressure on the connectors
(I have searched for the screwhead in the thought that I don't want
metal floating around inside)?
> > Evil-Dave, those are BNC bulkhead connectors for RG-52
>> or suchnot. How retro. Do you have a better shot of the
>> ports on the back?
Not BNC, more like 'F' (cable TV) or rough RCA plugs. Right now I
just have the old Olympus with no optical zoom, so what you see is what
you get (I'll do a few of what I can get for the video output too). Ok,
maybe I can be encouraged to do it again if you don't call me names.
>> Is there a sticker a-la the 6091 with adjustments?
How about the removed Post-It sized paper with adjustments the
original owner did back in 1988? The eBay seller said the "video mode"
switch had to be toggled on each power-up, but I think that is because
the socketed lithum battery inside might be dead. William pondered the
intelligence housed inside, which has to be something for the device
side of the GPIB & UART (all the input/outputs are on cards that plug
into a mainboard that is hard to see).
>> Who is the OEM?
I'll look again, because I just remember a sticker that said
"Springfield MO USA"...
David
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Louis Ohland
depends on what "is "is".
> Ok, maybe I can be encouraged to do it again if you don't call me names.
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>>>> Last picture has the copper clip that was floating
>>>> around inside. Like to know where it belongs.
>>> The clip looks to be a wiper blade to ensure contact. I
>>> doubt it's for the case, more like on the shield or PCB.
>> Or it could be a cable guide, but those are usually
>> non-conductive.
> The inside of the cover is not metalitized, and I find no
> spots it would have gone anyway. There was one busted
> screwhead retainer for the input/output connection cards,
> so current theory is it went under the lip of that.
> Damage en transit maybe, with pressure on the connectors
> (I have searched for the screwhead in the thought that
> I don't want metal floating around inside)?
to extract the body of the screw & replace it. Think I have the plan.
>>> Evil-Dave, those are BNC bulkhead connectors for
>>> RG-52 or suchnot. How retro. Do you have a better
>>> shot of the ports on the back?
> Not BNC, more like 'F' (cable TV) or rough RCA plugs.
> Right now I just have the old Olympus with no optical
> zoom, so what you see is what you get (I'll do a few of
> what I can get for the video output too). Ok, maybe I can
> be encouraged to do it again if you don't call me names.
All are RCA.
>>> Who is the OEM?
> I'll look again, because I just remember a sticker that
> said "Springfield MO USA"...
"Made for", but no other branding than IBM & the location...
David
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cards is out ("1780"; "platter clatter" is not good). The power switch
is also bobbited, but that's no trouble. Exactly the same drive as was
defunct on the Industrial 7541 (but "1790" there). Barring any fixes by
switching controllers I will have to get the software from
somewhere/someone (all "IBMlinks" are down from the page).
I have raster scan from one input (composite video?), but
apparently until software is loaded there is nothing thrown to the 4055
monitor. Planar VGA is fine. I believe the seller since he showed a
picture with color bars on the screen. Like Greg, I might just throw
composite video on it until I have software.
David
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