Grapichs cards, witch is the best ?
Niels C. Grønlund (2500 Valby)
I am curius, witch card do you prefer ?
Witch card do you mean is the best? And why?
I am especially interested in the "high end cards".
There is some cards i only read about. ELSA made some MCA cards are they
good any of you ever tried it?
Regards
Niels
Dan O
I like the XGA-2.
Dan O
Dan O wrote:
> Niels C. Grønlund (2500 Valby) wrote:
> > After the thred :ATI guppy being sold.
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> I like the XGA-2.
> > ... And why?
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No problems, fine performance, well supported, widely available, and it
just sort of "fits" - or seems to belong - in *any* well-equipped PS/2
system.
Emmanuel Mispreuve
XGA-2 is not so bad
ATI GUP is great under Linux if you use Accelerated-X (15/16
bits) instead of Xfree86 (only 8 Bits as far as I know)
Niels C. Grønlund (2500 Valby)
After the thread: ATI guppy being sold.
I am curious, which card do you prefer?
Witch card do you mean is the best? And why?
I am especially interested in the "high end cards".
There is some cards I only read about. ELSA made some MCA cards are they
good any of you ever tried it?
Regards
Niels
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UZnal
Better try with the dictionary ... ;)
> which card do you prefer?
The one that best serves my needs.
> Witch card do you mean is the best?
A low supply results in a best card. This applies to MCA, hence it is XGA-2.
> I am especially interested in the "high end cards".
The XGA-2 was a truly high-end card.
Alfred Arnold
>There is some cards I only read about. ELSA made some MCA cards are they
>good any of you ever tried it?
Those were either based on the Hitachi ACRTC or TIGA-based. They were
good boards (for their time) for CAD applications, but not really good for
GUIs.
Best regards
Alfred
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RickE
excluding the RS/6000-only framebuffers. Within that restricted set, I
liked the Image Adapter/A, with the following caveats:
Operating system is OS/2 2.1, 2.11 or is based on Warp 3.
The PS/2 has a second monitor with motherboard VGA, XGA or XGA-2
driving it.
The Image Adapter/A is attached to a 6091-019 (the -016 is too small,
the -023 has too much curve over it's face -- basically, it's too big).
At work, I'm still running a 9590-DLG with a 9525 monitor attached to
XGA-2 (text mode monitor), Image Adapter/A attached to a 6091-019
(Presentation Manager monitor - 1280x1024), Warp 3 Connect. It's a
very nice Warp 3-based OS/2 workstation, with crisp graphics and a
reasonable frame update rate, though it would not be good for games.
If you want to run any version of Windows, the Image Adapter/A is not a
good choice, as the software support is poor to non-existent.
Rick Ekblaw
UZnal
I knew I had them pictured somewhere, and located them in a NEC Multisync
4D/5D brochure (1990, München). Not exactly the place you would look for
rare MCA birds:
** ELSA XHR Gemini (ISA, Gemini/2 for MCA)
-- 3D-CAD and DTP
Texas Instruments TMS 34010-50
512KB up to 4.5MB
1024x768 up to 1600x1280
16/256 colors out of 4096/262,144/16,800,000
Supported interfaces: EGOS, TIGA 340, DGIS (optional)
** ELSA XHR Spectra (ISA, Spectra/2 for MCA)
-- 2D-CAD, AutoCAD
Hitachi HD63484-8 ACRTC
768KB
1280x1024
16 colors out of 4096
** ELSA XHR Alpha (ISA, Alpha/2 for MCA)
-- 2D-CAD, circuits
Hitachi HD63484-8 ACRTC
512KB
1024x768
16 colors out of 262,144
And there is another one, KONTRAST 700 CB from Kontron Elektronik, München,
pictured with these specs:
** KONTRAST 700 CB
ISA and MCA
Processor not visible
Max 1280x1024
15/256 colors out of 16,800,000
110,000 vectors/sec
1 or 2 processors working in parallel
Also pictured is the ISA miroGRAPH, 530/534 for CAD/CAM is indicated as PS/2
compatible:
** miroGRAPH 530/534
Hitachi HD63484-8 ACRTC
625KB
1280x1024
16 colors
For all of the above cards, the supported CAD and similar applications are
listed. ELSA Spectra/2 is listed as supporting OS/2.
Peter H. Wendt
>I am curius, witch card do you prefer ?
I have the ATI GUP (Mach 32 Rev. 6) installed in my "daily workhorse"
9595-S30+ and it is good. Sufficient for all the stuff I do (I don't do
stuff on that machine like scanning / excessive video & picture editing
and audio conversion - and no videogames.)
Apart from a regular six-month-cleaning-cycle (wiping the dust off, when
the attached EIZO F35 starts to flicker at the borders) it is trouble free.
Run it unter a de-fatted Win95C in 1024 x 768 / 64K colors / 72.3 Hz.
>Witch card do you mean is the best? And why?
The Matrox might be better - if you can get one. I once bid on one at
Eebay and the price went through the ceiling, so I forgot about it.
The Cornerstone cards might be good as well. I know that Helmut has one
and likes it.
>I am especially interested in the "high end cards".
Most of them are operating-system challenged (no drivers) or operate
with special monitors only.
>There is some cards i only read about. ELSA made some MCA cards are
>they good any of you ever tried it?
They are either based on a Texas Chipset, TIGA or a rather old S3
variant. Elsa dropped them long time ago and OS support ends at Win 3.x
/ NT 3.51 or OS/2 2.x at best. Some driver *may* work under Win 95, but
there are several side-effects and disadvantages to accept.
(Like that you cannot alter screen size or color depth without
de-installation of the drivers ....)
I had a couple of them (Elsa Winner/2 or Gemini/2) and gave them all
away. They were also largely intended as CAD cards for DOS.
Not much joy with them.
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Very friendly greetings from Peter in Germany
http://www.mcamafia.de/mcapage0/mcaindex.htm
Tony I
If I could find some card specs somewher I might ponder on pondering an
X-server for it...
I have pondered disassembling the Win31 or OS/2 drivers but that sounds like
real work<g>
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