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mea...@gmx.de

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Jul 26, 2015, 1:22:12 PM7/26/15
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Hi!

I have a Mod. 80 here and want to upgrade a CDROM drive. So I organized a drive, installed it but can't get the drivers working. All sides telling me to load the SCSICDRM.exe for my system, but the file is broken or doesn't work with DOS 6.22.
I get an error like "not enough memory for execution", but >600kb should be enough?!

Other drivers from the 1.2 CDROM disk or 3.0 (from Walsh PS/2 files etc) also doesn't work; I edited the config.sys and add the driver IBMCDROM.SYS but after a restart, the system hangs at this point (himem.sys > test and then the system stops working).

So whats wrong with my setup?

Modell 80 with IBM SCSI /A Controller, 2 Harddisks and the Toshiba 3410 CDROM.

andy...@gmail.com

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Jul 28, 2015, 10:44:48 AM7/28/15
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Did you set the SCSI IDs right and install the terminator at the end of the chain?

mea...@gmx.de

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Jul 29, 2015, 6:45:31 AM7/29/15
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Yes, think so:

The Setup(via RefDisc) find the CDDrive (ID3), Termination is working (no changes, a harddrive is the last in the chain).

Moussa

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Aug 1, 2015, 9:30:05 AM8/1/15
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Hi

<mea...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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tell us more about the system

model number and type
how much ram and in what configuration
card option installed

what lines used in config.sys and autoexec.bat


have a read here

http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/3722.htm
http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohlandl/utils/utilities.html

Moussa



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mea...@gmx.de

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Aug 2, 2015, 7:08:56 AM8/2/15
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It seems to be the CDROM drive (bought it from ebay as working). I built a test-system (with standard components) and the drive wasn't recognized, too.

It has power, but the Controller (Adaptec 2940U2W) can't find the drive.


mea...@gmx.de

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Aug 2, 2015, 3:47:15 PM8/2/15
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OK, the drive works at the moment, my cable (testsystem) was broken. A new one and the works. Back to the problem PS/2 and CDROM, will come back here with more details (as requested).

mea...@gmx.de

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Aug 2, 2015, 6:00:37 PM8/2/15
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Details of my config:

Model 80, 8580-M21
* 4 MB RAM-Card
* 12 MB extra (IBM Enh. 386er Card, (FDDE))
* simple SCSI adapter (8EFE)
* TR Adapter (E001)
* Toshiba XM-3401B (ID 3)
* 2 HDDs (both 160 MB IBM, ID 6 & 5)

Config.sys (only relevant parts, loaded in this order at the beginning of the config sys):
Device=c:\Dos\Himem.sys
Device=c:\Dos\EMM386.EXE RAM
[...]
Device=c:\Dos\ASPI4B.SYS (tried it with and without this ASPI driver)
Device=c:\Dos\IBMCDROM.SYS /i /D:IBMCD01

and some normal things like FILES, DOS=UMB etc, nothing uncommon.

The paths are ok, himem-test runs flawlessly, then the system crash without any information - the part, where the driver is loaded

In the autoexec.bat is also nothing special, would load the driver via MSCDEX, if it loads. ;)

The driver comes from here:
http://www.walshcomptech.com/selectpccbbs/

Tried the IBM SCSI CDROM DOS/Windows Drivers v1.2 and 3.0

Thx for Help.

Moussa

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Aug 3, 2015, 12:05:05 AM8/3/15
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Hi

<mea...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Details of my config:
>
> * 12 MB extra (IBM Enh. 386er Card, (FDDE))
remove

> * TR Adapter (E001)
remove

> * Toshiba XM-3401B (ID 3)
> * 2 HDDs (both 160 MB IBM, ID 6 & 5)
>

try again

mea...@gmx.de

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Aug 4, 2015, 3:42:50 PM8/4/15
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Both removed, no change ...
I also tried an other CDRom drive and SCSI-Adapter /w Cache, same "error".

And also tried to remove everything from the config.sys exept the ASPI driver or IBMCDROM.SYS, but also no change.

Moussa

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Aug 6, 2015, 10:40:04 PM8/6/15
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http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/ohland/CDROMII.html

Installing IBMCDROM.SYS

From Peter
Assumed, you installed an IBM SCSI-Adapter or used the one in your
machine (card or onboard) to connect a SCSI CD-ROM drive to it. The adapter
is recognized in the setup and so is the CD-ROM drive. But you cannot access
it. What's wrong ?

Do the following: get the SCSI CD-ROM Driver Disk SCSICDRM.EXE, extract
it to a 720K / 3.5" disk run the UINSTALL-program from the disk to install
the device-driver IBMCDROM.SYS. Use a Text-Editor to add /i in your
CONFIG.SYS at the end of the line with the IBMCDROM.SYS If you have a CD-ROM
(like some NEC) and it refuses to work even after adding the /i try to add a
/P:2 as well to enable the read seek command on this unit too. (Thanks White
Box !) restart the system
This little /i will convince the IBMCDROM.SYS to accept all CD-ROM
drives, which do not have the !x-sign in their device descriptor and
therefore are recognized as Non-IBM devices. Works fine with NEC, Toshiba,
Panasonic, Sony etc. BTW.: It pays to read the README-file on the
SCSICDRM-disk ...
Editor's Note: I have had to use the /i switch to get an IBM CD ROM (first
model) to be recognized. But the rebadged Toshiba XM3101BME works under DOS
6.22 and WfW 3.11.... Also, a no-brainer is the /D:drivername must be the
same in CONFIG.SYS as well as the AUTOEXEC.BAT or you will spend 30 minutes
or more looking for a hardware problem that isn't...

mea...@gmx.de

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Aug 7, 2015, 3:05:33 AM8/7/15
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Tried it, no difference.

The SCSICDROM.EXE seems to be broken (Not enough memory to execute the program), tried different sources.
So I used my "old" IBMCDROM.SYS and ASPI4B.sys and the parameter /i and /P:2 doesn't have any effect > system hangs after the Himem-test.

Is there a reserved slot for the SCSI-Controller? He's in Slot 1 at the moment (slot at the bottom).


Moussa

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Aug 7, 2015, 7:35:03 AM8/7/15
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did you have this lines into your config.sys file?
i can send you those 2 files but i need a valid email address.

"
config.sys

DeviceHigh=C:\aspi4b.sys
DeviceHigh=C:\ASPCDROM.SYS /i /P:2 /D:IBMCD001

"
Moussa

mea...@gmx.de

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Aug 7, 2015, 6:03:19 PM8/7/15
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Yes!
Even the ASPI-Driver doesn't load.
Maybe it's a problem with the SCSI-Controller?!

I tried to reconfigure the adapter with newer ADFs, but got an Error (Error with adapter in slot 1). With the standard-adfs provide by the RefDisk, the adapter works.

Here is my complete (test-)config.sys, removed everything "unneded":
Device=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
Device=C:\DOS\ASPI4B.SYS
REM Device=C:\DOS\IBMCDROM.SYS /i /P:2 /D:IBMCD001

>>> system hangs after Himen.sys

Copied both files to the dos folder.

thx

Moussa

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Aug 7, 2015, 10:00:05 PM8/7/15
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leave only those 2 lines in your config.sys and nothing else
and try again, don't load himem.sys, and try again.

DeviceHigh=C:\aspi4b.sys
DeviceHigh=C:\ASPCDROM.SYS /i /P:2 /D:IBMCD001

Moussa

mea...@gmx.de

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Aug 8, 2015, 7:12:27 PM8/8/15
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Also no change.

Tried my second 8580 and it's the same, the aspi and cdrom.sys doesn't load.

Here my crc32/sh1 of both files:

ASPI4B.SYS 5409EA77
IBMCDROM.SYS 34ADA672

32bfe46fb38becb473f55f8d3e0f063153bcd278 *ASPI4B.SYS
6b47deaacad8f688ae36aaad59e2d7f58d7ebf1e *IBMCDROM.SYS


Moussa

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Aug 10, 2015, 12:35:06 AM8/10/15
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Hi

<mea...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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i have asked to load this lines and you replied loading something else.

i will ask you again, load this lines and only this 2 lines into your
config.sys
make sure the files are in the root directory that is c:\

Device=aspi4b.sys
Device=ASPCDROM.SYS /i /P:2 /D:IBMCD001


and try again

mea...@gmx.de

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Aug 11, 2015, 3:44:43 PM8/11/15
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Maybe I've should work with quotes, sorry.

As I already wrote: no changes with your suggestions. A minimal config.sys with the aspi4b and aspdrom shows the same sympton: System stops working.




Am Montag, 10. August 2015 06:35:06 UTC+2 schrieb Moussa:
> Hi

Moussa

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Aug 13, 2015, 4:25:05 AM8/13/15
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i suggest to check your RAM

something is not right

mea...@gmx.de

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Sep 14, 2015, 2:36:32 AM9/14/15
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I changed the whole computer(see prev. posting) and it's the same.

:(

WBSTClarke

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Mar 11, 2016, 1:12:38 AM3/11/16
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Have you ensured the CDROM drive is jumpered for SCSI bus PARITY! IBM controllers require this.

HTTH,
WBST
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