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Mark Sprong

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Dec 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/15/97
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I have a MV Jazz 16 soundcard. Nothing wrong with it, works fine. The
thing is, it is three years old and MV isn't making any new drivers for
it because they think I should buy a new MV card.

Say you want to install WinNT 4.0, there aren't any drivers available
then. This really sux.

If I ever buy a new card it will be one from Creative Labs, there are
always soundblaster drivers. This is not the prper way for MV to treat
their customers, I want to be the one who decides where and when I need
a new device.

I just wanted to get this off my chest because I am irritated!

ps. MediaVision, get to work!

Mark Sprong

throw...@hotmail.com

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Dec 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/15/97
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Sorry to say but it'd be pretty hard to buy a new MediaVision card
given MediaVision declared bankruptcy and has technically been out of
the business for a couple years. Why would "they" think you should
buy a new MV soundcard when technically, MediaVision doesn't have a
new soundcard (again, they technically do not exist)? Obviously, by
your very statement, it's quite apparent that you didn't talk to
anyone at Mediavision (since not only technically you can't, but also,
why would "they" tell you to buy a non-existent card). If you
purchase most computer equipment on the basis that you expect to have
updated drivers on 3 year old equipment, I don't think you'll be able
to purchase an entire computer, since most of the parts will be
components that will not have drivers 3 years later. I'm not sure
what products you're purchasing but I suspect they're products no one
else can find (given your need for new drivers on 3 year old
equipment).

Chris

On Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:48:49 +0100, Mark Sprong <msp...@xs4all.nl>
wrote:

Irene Kudinow

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Dec 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/16/97
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In article <349543...@xs4all.nl> Mark Sprong <msp...@xs4all.nl> writes:
>I have a MV Jazz 16 soundcard. Nothing wrong with it, works fine. The
>thing is, it is three years old and MV isn't making any new drivers for
>it because they think I should buy a new MV card.
>
>Say you want to install WinNT 4.0, there aren't any drivers available
>then. This really sux.
>
>If I ever buy a new card it will be one from Creative Labs, there are
>always soundblaster drivers. This is not the prper way for MV to treat
>their customers, I want to be the one who decides where and when I need
>a new device.
>
>I just wanted to get this off my chest because I am irritated!
>
>ps. MediaVision, get to work!
>
>Mark Sprong

I don't think it's a matter of MediaVision not caring. It's a matter of
MediaVision went out of business (got bought up) about 2 years ago. I
don't think the company that's now called MediaVision even makes sound
cards. I doubt you'll get anyone to care about drivers for a product they
never made. However, CL may not be the way to go either if you think
driver support is number one. Unless they've recently changed their minds,
CL has stopped supporting OS/2 and NT updates seem to be slow in coming.
At least CL isn't likely to go out of business anytime soon, though.
-Irene Alora-
[My opinions are not shared by my emplyer]


scav...@surly.org

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Dec 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/16/97
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In article <673oc8$6...@newsops.execpc.com>,

throw...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Sorry to say but it'd be pretty hard to buy a new MediaVision card
> given MediaVision declared bankruptcy and has technically been out of
> the business for a couple years. Why would "they" think you should
> buy a new MV soundcard when technically, MediaVision doesn't have a
> new soundcard (again, they technically do not exist)? Obviously, by
> your very statement, it's quite apparent that you didn't talk to
> anyone at Mediavision (since not only technically you can't, but also,
> why would "they" tell you to buy a non-existent card). If you
> purchase most computer equipment on the basis that you expect to have
> updated drivers on 3 year old equipment, I don't think you'll be able
> to purchase an entire computer, since most of the parts will be
> components that will not have drivers 3 years later. I'm not sure
> what products you're purchasing but I suspect they're products no one
> else can find (given your need for new drivers on 3 year old
> equipment).
>
> Chris

Sadly, MediaVision is not out of business, they have merely changed their
name after their shameful inventory-hiding scandal, and are now doing
business as Aureal Semiconductor.

I kid you not.

Put that in your book notes on how to run a company. After you screw all
your customers AND stockholders, simply change your name, rearrange your
corporate structure, and you're good for another round.

Maybe without Paul Jain they'll have a conscience about their customers,
but I have my doubts.

Scavenger

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David Gasior

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Dec 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/17/97
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In article <882293262....@dejanews.com>, scav...@surly.org says ...

>Sadly, MediaVision is not out of business, they have merely changed their
>name after their shameful inventory-hiding scandal, and are now doing
>business as Aureal Semiconductor.

>I kid you not.

That is not true! Well, not really.

Yes, MediaVision practiced some very illegal and immoral business practices at
the end of its existence, but the people responsible for those practices are
not involved with Aureal Semiconductor. Aureal started as a group of former
MediaVision employees who wanted to start another quality company (which
MediaVision was at first). Paul Jain, the one mostly implicated for
MediaVision's downfall, and dubbed "the Indian Pirate" by the San Jose Mercury
News, is not affiliated with Aureal. He was affiliated with ValueMedia and
currently (?) with L.A. Vision.

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scav...@surly.org

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Dec 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/17/97
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Not meaning any disrespect, David, but have a look at
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/892433/0000891618-96-000613.txt

About 2 screens down you will see:

FORMER COMPANY:
FORMER CONFORMED NAME: MEDIA VISION TECHNOLOGY INC
DATE OF NAME CHANGE: 19931210

So literally and legally, they are, in fact, Media Vision, not merely a
group of ex employees.

Scavenger

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David Gasior

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Dec 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/18/97
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In article <882385868...@dejanews.com>, scav...@surly.org says ...

>So literally and legally, they are, in fact, Media Vision, not merely a
>group of ex employees.

But what that (or you) doesn't mention is that what was left of MediaVision,
including the name and support functions, was bought out by another company.
There still is a MediaVision in existence, and have put out products as
recently as this year.

The people responsible for the collapse of MediaVision are not with Aureal
Semiconductor, so your original comment about it being sad that a company can
do that and just change their name and continue on is extremely misleading to
people.

Ronnie Gibson

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Dec 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/18/97
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scav...@surly.org wrote:

>In article <673oc8$6...@newsops.execpc.com>,
> throw...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Sorry to say but it'd be pretty hard to buy a new MediaVision card
>> given MediaVision declared bankruptcy and has technically been out of
>> the business for a couple years. Why would "they" think you should

>Sadly, MediaVision is not out of business, they have merely changed their
>name after their shameful inventory-hiding scandal, and are now doing
>business as Aureal Semiconductor.

I need to know how to contact them if possible.


email: rgi...@ix.netcom.com


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throw...@hotmail.com

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Dec 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/19/97
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David is correct. When I originally posted, I knew that whats was
left of Mediavision had been turned into Aureal....thus if you reread
my original post, you find a lot of the word "technically" in there.
I was not aware that Aureal sold the rights to Mediavision's name,
etc. After filing bankruptcy (which they did) the bondholders held
what was left of Mediavision.

The following is a quote from www.aureal.com:

In early 1996, Aureal sold off all Media Vision trade marks and
product lines, and shifted into startup mode to begin development of
several next generation digital audio semiconductor devices.
In mid 1996, Aureal acquired Crystal River
Engineering, a recognized pioneer and leading developer of
three-dimensional audio technology, creating an exciting merger
of CRE’s world-class 3D audio algorithm software with Aureal’s leading
semiconductor design and music synthesis capabilities.


In regards to any management of Mediavision inside AURL, I give you
the following post from an ex-employee of AURL from the yahoo stock
message boards. His other posts give credence to his claim that he
was an employee. Furthermore, cross references of SEC docs will show
you that there are no former execs from Mediavision within Aureal:

" I am a former Aureal employee and current stock holder.

There is only one former Media-Vision manager in the current
Aureal management. That VP was hired by MV after the front
office fiasco to manage the re-org. So really, there is NOBODY
from the MV mis-management.

One other VP came up from engineering management from a former
MV subsidiary to carry the MV technology forward. "

I hope this clears up any questions regarding any connections between
Aureal and Mediavision.

Chris

Fymah

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Dec 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/20/97
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Apparently more of MV people are at the new Shark MM.

David Gasior

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Dec 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/20/97
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In article <19971220034...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, fy...@aol.com says
...

>Apparently more of MV people are at the new Shark MM.

I've worked with people who worked at MediaVision at all three companies I have
worked at here in CA, including Turtle Beach. The MediaVision staff were quite
talented.

KP2 KP2

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