Which DB for games? Korg or Roland SCD-15?
Mike
Ok, I've been reading and reading and as best I can tell the consensus
is that the Mediavision Korg daughterboard and the Roland SCD-15 sound
the best.
Are there any advantages to one or the other? Do they both sound
equally good/are equally compatible in games?
also,
Is the Roland SCD-10 far lesser than the 15? Any help would be
appreciated; I was considering an awe32 but I have a sb16 and understand
this will sound much better.
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"Remember... it's easier to bury than to forgive."
d r o w n
dadai
>I own a Roland JV-80 synth. The Roland card is supposed
>to be filled with the best sounds that Roland has.
>Personally, I like the Roland sound and would choose
>that board (don't forget that Korg is owned by Yamaha, thus
>the creator of cheasey FM....sorry, I am a little biased)
No! Yamaha didn't own Korg. Yamaha is only one of the share holders
of Korg (20%). FM is cheasey? May be it's true on OPL2//OPL3. But
on pro-FM synth? Bet you never heard of real professional FM
synthesizer sound. All GM's instrument sound that in Synth PAD, Synth
Lead and Synth FX (program 80~103) and synth string are sampling from
FM synthesizer. Does these instruments sound on your Roland's sounds
terrible to you?
Mac Chen
Ray Schoepfer
>Ok, I've been reading and reading and as best I can tell the consensus
>is that the Mediavision Korg daughterboard and the Roland SCD-15 sound
>the best.
>
>Are there any advantages to one or the other? Do they both sound
>equally good/are equally compatible in games?
>
andrew Jenkins
>
>ra...@arendeeco.com (Ray Schoepfer) wrote:
>
>>I own a Roland JV-80 synth. The Roland card is supposed
>>to be filled with the best sounds that Roland has.
>>Personally, I like the Roland sound and would choose
>>that board (don't forget that Korg is owned by Yamaha, thus
>>the creator of cheasey FM....sorry, I am a little biased)
>
>of Korg (20%). FM is cheasey? May be it's true on OPL2//OPL3. But
>on pro-FM synth? Bet you never heard of real professional FM
>synthesizer sound. All GM's instrument sound that in Synth PAD, Synth
>Lead and Synth FX (program 80~103) and synth string are sampling from
>FM synthesizer. Does these instruments sound on your Roland's sounds
>terrible to you?
Actually, I haven't heard a Wavetable that does any justice to good FM.
Matter of fact, their are sounds that the cheesy OPL3 produces which far
outshine Wavetable, in terms of synthetic (ie, FM) instruments.
And, dittoes on the pro-FM versus OPL3, I have a Korg DW-8000, and it kicks
butt. (And it isn't even all that amazing, in terms of FM)
aj
Frederick Y Mah
>ra...@arendeeco.com (Ray Schoepfer) wrote:
>No! Yamaha didn't own Korg. Yamaha is only one of the share holders
>of Korg (20%). FM is cheasey? May be it's true on OPL2//OPL3. But
>on pro-FM synth? Bet you never heard of real professional FM
>synthesizer sound. All GM's instrument sound that in Synth PAD, Synth
>Lead and Synth FX (program 80~103) and synth string are sampling from
>FM synthesizer. Does these instruments sound on your Roland's sounds
>terrible to you?
>Mac Chen
FM could theoretically emulate instruments better using enough operators, but
since OPL3 only uses up to 4 per instrument then it is not accurate. The
basis for FM (superposition of waves, sine typically) is well established in
a mathematical sense (Fourier series).
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Archana S. Prasad
>Actually, I haven't heard a Wavetable that does any justice to good FM.
>Matter of fact, their are sounds that the cheesy OPL3 produces which far
>outshine Wavetable, in terms of synthetic (ie, FM) instruments.
Hmm. Which ones? I have a SB16 and SCD-15, and would like to check these out.
Off hand, its seems highly unlikely....
Aloke Prasad
Luiz Meyer
>>synthesizer sound. All GM's instrument sound that in Synth PAD,
Synth
>>Lead and Synth FX (program 80~103) and synth string are sampling from
>>FM synthesizer. Does these instruments sound on your Roland's
sounds
>>terrible to you?
>FM could theoretically emulate instruments better using enough
operators, but
>since OPL3 only uses up to 4 per instrument then it is not accurate.
The
>basis for FM (superposition of waves, sine typically) is well
established in
>a mathematical sense (Fourier series).
I'd rather say that the Fourier series is more related to Additive
Synthesis, instead of FM...
|_ |\/| --- L.M...@ix.netcom.com
Frederick Y Mah
Yes! I have made an incorrect analogy. The point being, that use of
more operators would provide better "simulation" of sounds. Although
probably using better quality components too, not $10 chips.
Jay Fong
>
>
>
> Ok, I've been reading and reading and as best I can tell the consensus
> is that the Mediavision Korg daughterboard and the Roland SCD-15 sound
> the best.
>
> Are there any advantages to one or the other? Do they both sound
> equally good/are equally compatible in games?
Hi,
I personally own the MV Pro Wavetable upgrade (KORG) card with a
SB16 SCSI2 w/ASP and must say that I'm very satisfied with it. First
off, it's much cheaper that what I would have to pay for the SCD-15
($350 CDN). I paid $180 CDN for the KORG.
2nd, I bought it for games mainly, since I'm no musician so I've
been quite pleased with the "realistic" (compared to FM-synth from the
SB16 before) sounds.
So from a gamers point of view (we're often an out-of-cash lot! -_^)
KORG would make a bit more economical sense. Granted, the SCD-15 by
net-consensus seems to be the champion (It'd better be if it's double
the price of the KORG!) as far as "best sounding" goes. I wouldn't
know 'cause I've never heard it but I wouldn't doubt it.
As for me, my games all sound fine (those that use GM that is).
Good luck! I remember asking the same sorta questions about a year
ago when I was looking to buy a wave card! ^_^
Jay
Frederick Y Mah
Sort of goes to my previous post in the games section. More and more
music, IMO, will be using the effects (Roland and Korg have) and the
additional drums kits. I do not know what kits the Korg has. This is
true for Descent AFAIK and possible will be for others. A good test,
if you have Descent and the TR-707 drum kit. Turn up the bass, especially
with subwoofers to get the booming sound you hear when low-riders drive by.
I think this is in a few of the levels out of the first 9 or so.