When I turn on the PC, it beeps 1 times real high and 8 low beeps.
That's where it dies, no video or other output. I checked all voltages
from the powersupply and they are all fine.
I'd like to know if it's the CPU or the motherboard that's bad.
Try looking around your MB and see if anything is touching it that may cause a short.
Also make sure that the MB is not loose in the case - tighten the hold downs.
I had a problem similar to yours once, and it ended up that something was touching
the MB in ways that weren't acceptable. It wouldn't
even get far enough into the boot sequence to start the BIOS.
HTH,
Wayne
I think you should check the cables and add-on card connected correctly
and FIRMLY. It's always caused by the connecting problems.
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>I have a VLB motherboard with AMI BIOS. It has a AMD 486-DX40 CPU.
>When I turn on the PC, it beeps 1 times real high and 8 low beeps.
>That's where it dies, no video or other output. I checked all voltages
>from the powersupply and they are all fine.
>I'd like to know if it's the CPU or the motherboard that's bad.
"Display memory read/write failure." From my experience that usually
means the video card got loose.
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>I have a VLB motherboard with AMI BIOS. It has a AMD 486-DX40 CPU.
>When I turn on the PC, it beeps 1 times real high and 8 low beeps.
>That's where it dies, no video or other output. I checked all voltages
>from the powersupply and they are all fine.
>I'd like to know if it's the CPU or the motherboard that's bad.
You did snap the mem & cards in tight (the damn boards are a BITCH to
get vlb cards and stuff plugged in all the way!!)
There are AMI-Beep Code references around, I don't have any handy/recent
ones tho.. Call yer distributor :)
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If none of the above are the case, check your simms. I had a similar problem
because of a faulty simms, although my machine only beeped 2 or 3 times.
Good Luck,
Vicente
I've seen this problem a lot of times...Almost always a video card not seated fully
especially in the local bus slot...sometimes you have to hold the motherboard while seating the card to
get it to seat deep enough
Good Luck,
Al
No, it's the video card. Most probably the video RAM has failed. If
it has replacable Memory chips try replaceing them.
Rudy Melster
r.me...@auckland.ac.nz
Look at the beep codes in whatever manual contains
info on the bios. each # of beeps has a meaning.
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>On 16 Jun 1996 21:44:42 GMT, Rudy Melster <r.me...@auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> >In article yes, says...
> >>
> >>I have a VLB motherboard with AMI BIOS. It has a AMD 486-DX40 CPU.
> >>
> >>When I turn on the PC, it beeps 1 times real high and 8 low beeps.
> >>That's where it dies, no video or other output. I checked all voltages
> >>from the powersupply and they are all fine.
> >>
> >>I'd like to know if it's the CPU or the motherboard that's bad.
> >
> >
> Look at the beep codes in whatever manual contains
> info on the bios. each # of beeps has a meaning.
AMI BIOS
8 short beeps is Display memory write/read test failed. Fatal.
1 long & 8 short should be Display & retrace failed. Should be
non-fatal (but your error seems to be fatal).
I am *not* an expert on computer repair...but I would guess that it's
the video card.
Hugh McCurdy
Cary
I have seen cases where other cards interfere with the video card (ie.
memory mapped into video ram/rom area. The cases I have seen caused this
exact problem. Since you didn't give any history of the machine (like
maybe it was assembled yesterday) this may or may not be of anyu value to
you.
Richard
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>> That's where it dies, no video or other output. I checked all voltages
>> from the powersupply and they are all fine.
>>
>> I'd like to know if it's the CPU or the motherboard that's bad.
>
>Try looking around your MB and see if anything is touching it that may cause a
>short.
>Also make sure that the MB is not loose in the case - tighten the hold downs.
>I had a problem similar to yours once, and it ended up that something was touch
>ing
>the MB in ways that weren't acceptable. It wouldn't
>even get far enough into the boot sequence to start the BIOS.
>
>HTH,
>Wayne
Cheers,
Phil
>Cary
Having noted this thread several times I must note that I
once ordered a Motherboard form a west coast dealer
that would not run with the three different VGA cards
that I happened to have on hand. All three cards were
OK. I don't know what the MB's problem was as I returned it
and went to a local dealer WITH my VGA card and insisted
that he demo it with his preferred MB.
What was the MB's problem? Beats me, but it is no longer
my problem.
Bob
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On Mon, 17 Jun 1996 02:07:34 GMT, hmcc...@ix.netcom.com (Hugh
McCurdy) wrote:
>ro...@localhosttamu.edu (Harrison Bergeron) wrote:
>
>>On 16 Jun 1996 21:44:42 GMT, Rudy Melster <r.me...@auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
>> >In article yes, says...
>> >>
>> >>I have a VLB motherboard with AMI BIOS. It has a AMD 486-DX40 CPU.
>> >>
>> >>When I turn on the PC, it beeps 1 times real high and 8 low beeps.
>> >>That's where it dies, no video or other output. I checked all voltages
>> >>from the powersupply and they are all fine.
>> >>
>> >>I'd like to know if it's the CPU or the motherboard that's bad.
>> >
>> >
>
>> Look at the beep codes in whatever manual contains
>> info on the bios. each # of beeps has a meaning.
>
>AMI BIOS
>
>8 short beeps is Display memory write/read test failed. Fatal.
>
>1 long & 8 short should be Display & retrace failed. Should be
>non-fatal (but your error seems to be fatal).
>
>
>I am *not* an expert on computer repair...but I would guess that it's
>the video card.
>
>
>Hugh McCurdy
>
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Thanks to everyone for the replies. Eight beeps for AMI BIOS does mean
video memory error. The table can be found on AMI's WWW page:
http://www.megatrends.com
However, it was *NOT THE VIDEO CARD* that caused the problem. They
video card works fine. It was my serial/parallel card. I have a Boca
IO 2by4 (4 serial, 2 parallel) card. After removing it from the system
it will boot. The card was dead, after about 2 years of service, but
Boca's 5-yr warranty will take care of it.
I have a pentium system running Windows 95. I was not using my computer
at the time and I heard a beep, looked over and my computer was booting.
I got a keyboard error at the same time that would not go away until
I removed power and turned the computer back on.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Mike
>Bob Kupiec wrote:
>>
>> I have a VLB motherboard with AMI BIOS. It has a AMD 486-DX40 CPU.
>>
>> When I turn on the PC, it beeps 1 times real high and 8 low beeps.
>> That's where it dies, no video or other output. I checked all voltages
>> from the powersupply and they are all fine.
>>
>> I'd like to know if it's the CPU or the motherboard that's bad.
>Hello Bob !
>
>I think you should check the cables and add-on card connected correctly
>and FIRMLY. It's always caused by the connecting problems.
I had a problem similar to this. It had me going for days, but the
final problem ended up as one of my SIMM sockets caught a peice of
fluff and stopping the contact of a couple of pins.
After removing the offending peice of lint, my computer sprang back
into life!
Hope you get it working
Neither. With an AMI BIOS 8 beeps means that the video card RAM test
failed. In other words, there's something wrong with the video card;
either it failed the test or it was unable to test.
This not a fatal error. I had this happen to me about a month ago and I
was still able to boot my system and telnet in or use a locally attached
terminal. Try reseating your video card and cleaning out any
dust-bunnies that may be lingering around inside your case.
-Jason
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>Mike
I had a similar problem with a TMC Research motherboard with Pentium
90 CPU. I found that if I disabled the external cache, the problem
mostly went away. Of course that cost me about 30% in speed, so I
tried to find what was broken. (BTW, I found that parity checking does
not work on L2 cache memory.) I replaced the DRAM memory and all 512
Kb of cache memory with no improvement. I finally concluded that the
problem was the Opti memory controller chip. I got new parts from a
vendor but unfortunately damaged the motherboard while trying to
unsolder the old part.
Your problem may not be related to mine. There are many possible
reasons for unstable computer operation. Most of them are difficult to
diagnose and fix, especially if you do not have spare parts and repair
equipment. My advice to save you time and aggravation: Disconnect all
nonessential hardware, borrow some memory from a friend, and see if
your problem dissapears. If it does not, then exchange the mother
board for a new one.
How about a 3 month old Tyan III, p5-166 MB that doesn't even get to the
beep stage. Power on, the drive moves to sector 0 or whatever and nothing.
No video, no beeps.
Greg
Why ask in a LINUX newsgroup??
eight beeps is the video system. Substitute another video card to
confirm.
IF your system (I can't see that from your message) is a notebook or has APM (advanced power
management) this hardware may conflict with Win95 own advanced power management. I have had that
problem on a Thinkpad. It went away by going into the control panel and disable Win95 advanced
power management, letting the hardware alone do the job.
Laurent
I nocked the keyboard on the floor while I was reaching to shut off the
computer could I have blown a chip?
My computer has a AMI BIOS and a SIS chipset. Any ideas?
Oh yea my Adaptec SCSI controller doesn't have floppy drive support I use
another card for floppy drives.
Thanks alot,
I don't have this straight. Why does the title say "beeps 8 times",
while the body of the text states "no beeps"? What is the "parity jumper
block" on the CD ROM? Do you mean the terminator block?
PARITY ERROR refers to the system failing PARITY CHECK. THis woul
indicate flakey RAM or a PARITY CHECK being enables (by jumper or in
SETUP) on a system without parity RAM.
For more ideas see THE DEAD PC at COMPUTERCRAFT.
I had the same problem with an Asus T2 board. The problem was a bad
EDO SIMM.
>Mike Steiner wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know what would cause a computer to reboot for no apparent
>> reason?
>>
>> I have a pentium system running Windows 95. I was not using my computer
>> at the time and I heard a beep, looked over and my computer was booting.
For what it is worth, I once encountered a similar spontaneous reboot
problem, although with WIN 3.1 on a 486 MB. After a lengthy
investigation the problems was unmistakably traced to the installation
of and old ISA Trident video card.. Replacing this card with a modern
card solved the problem, and reinstalling the old Trident reintroduced
the problem.
I did not make any effort to determine why this video card caused the
rebooting. As a wild guess I would judge that there was some common
usage of the RAM area between 640k and 1mB.
: I nocked the keyboard on the floor while I was reaching to shut off the
: computer could I have blown a chip?
: My computer has a AMI BIOS and a SIS chipset. Any ideas?
: Oh yea my Adaptec SCSI controller doesn't have floppy drive support I use
: another card for floppy drives.
: Thanks alot,
To evrybody that responed to my post thanks a lot. I don't know what the
problem was but after I left the computer off for awhile it booted! Then
it wouldn't let me configure my EISA SCSI card! Turned it back off for
awhile then it would let me save my config in my BIOS! Got Linux
installed, figured out how to get xwindows to work and here I am posting
with it! :)
For those who wanted to know the led on the front of the computer would
come on, so it was getting power. It just wouldn't do anything else,
wouldn't beep, floppies wouldn't spin. Who knows! I checked and rechecked
all the cables, cards and chips.
Thanks again!
keep on computin'
jamess
: How about a 3 month old Tyan III, p5-166 MB that doesn't even get to the
: beep stage. Power on, the drive moves to sector 0 or whatever and nothing.
: No video, no beeps.
Once I forgot to put the CPU in and I got the same results as you.
Perhaps you're having bad connections with the CPU.
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>Greg Miller (gmi...@nac.net) wrote:
I put CPU in the wrong way and this is what happened. No beeps no
nothing. Turn your CPU around and try it.
Eric Miles
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: I have a pentium system running Windows 95. I was not using my computer
: at the time and I heard a beep, looked over and my computer was booting.
: I got a keyboard error at the same time that would not go away until
: I removed power and turned the computer back on.
: Any suggestions would be appreciated.
: Mike
Had a similar problem when installing an old non-PnP sound board on a
Gateway P5-90. A hardware conflict was causing a spontaneous reboot.
Have you tried starting in safe mode? Why it should suddenly start is
confusing, have you installed any new driver software recently?
D.
>jst...@phish.nether.net () wrote:
>
>>Greg Miller (gmi...@nac.net) wrote:
>
>>: How about a 3 month old Tyan III, p5-166 MB that doesn't even get to the
>>: beep stage. Power on, the drive moves to sector 0 or whatever and nothing.
>>: No video, no beeps.
>
>>Once I forgot to put the CPU in and I got the same results as you.
>>Perhaps you're having bad connections with the CPU.
>
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>>Don't send me your junk mail... You won't like it...
>I put CPU in the wrong way and this is what happened. No beeps no
>nothing. Turn your CPU around and try it.
I wouldn't do that. You could seriously fry your CPU and motherboard.
I remember seeing a post about a guy frying his AMD 486DX2-66 or
DX4-100 when he had it turned around 180 degrees of where it was
supposed to be. The chip got so hot it melted the socket, and made
the chip stick to it. When he tried to pull it out, the chip broke in
half! Ouch!
I can say from personal experience with SSI and MSI chips, if you
accidentally reverse Vcc and Ground, they get EXTREMELY hot (normally
these same chips don't even get slightly warm)....
>Eric Miles
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Hey,
I am not sure my original post got through.
I also had a similar problem. My computer spontaneously rebooted while
in windows 3.11. After rebooting it got to the part of the sequence
where it says updating ESCD and then a line appeared saying Missing
Operating System. I turned my computer on and off and the same thing
kept happening. I tried again the next few days and got the same
result. One day, I happened to turn it on and it worked fine.
I wasn't doing anything in windows at the time it rebooted, I happened to
be reading a magazine and only the Program Manager was running. I have
an ATI Graphics XPression video card, Tyan Titan II MB with 16 MB of
memory, and a Samsung PLS31274 HD. Any ideas what happened?
Anton
Anybody know what the AMI beep code meen:
2 short & 8 long beeps, i know 8 is for Video memory read/write errors, but
2 short (or fast) beep, what's it ???
Thanks
Binh Nguyen
tbng...@post.sygma.net
>On Wed, 03 Jul 1996 11:06:25 GMT, e...@pobox.com (Eric Miles) wrote:
>
>>jst...@phish.nether.net () wrote:
>>
>>>Greg Miller (gmi...@nac.net) wrote:
>>
>>>: How about a 3 month old Tyan III, p5-166 MB that doesn't even get to the
>>>: beep stage. Power on, the drive moves to sector 0 or whatever and nothing.
>>>: No video, no beeps.
>>
>>>Once I forgot to put the CPU in and I got the same results as you.
>>>Perhaps you're having bad connections with the CPU.
>>
>>>--
>>>Garph
>>>Don't send me your junk mail... You won't like it...
>>I put CPU in the wrong way and this is what happened. No beeps no
>>nothing. Turn your CPU around and try it.
I've seem this problem happen sporaticly on a number of machines. In
many cases, it was caused by loose SIMMs. After reseating the SIMMs
the problem when away completely.
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I didn't see the original, but in case it hasn't been answered,
eight beeps is USUALLY a video card problem.
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> I do know what zero beeps means: -- no speaker working!
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