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Jose Cardoso

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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I thinking of dumping my monitor for a screen with decent clarity and have
decided to go for an LCD flat panel. Before I splash out, I have a few
questions I hope you can help me with:

Which flat panel should I go for?
Are there any decent review sites that have covered these?
Do any of you use them?
If so, what are your experiences so far for both general use and gaming?

Thanks in advance for any input you give.

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Jeff McWilliams

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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I'm using the SGI wide aspect ratio flat panel. The display resolution is
1600 x 1024. It's a very sharp display, but it's also quite expensive:

$2200 for the display and a #9 Revolution IV video card with 32M of RAM.

This is not a gaming card. The OpenGL performance is worse than most
TNT or TNT2 setups I've seen. This is on my machine at work though,
where I spend 8 - 12 hours a day programming - so gaming wasn't
high on my list (though we do play Quake 2 deathmatch in the office
every now and then ).

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Jose Cardoso

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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Jeff McWilliams <is...@homer.acetech.int> wrote in message
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> I'm using the SGI wide aspect ratio flat panel. The display resolution is
> 1600 x 1024. It's a very sharp display, but it's also quite expensive:
>
> $2200 for the display and a #9 Revolution IV video card with 32M of RAM.

To be honest Jeff, that was a panel I was playing very close attention to. I
was keen to get a review from someone who owned it this panel before I spent
that amount of money on it.

Would you be willing to give a mini-review? How do you find it for redraws?
Do fast movements cause problems or is the refresh rate higher than the more
cheaper flat panels? How good is the colour purity? Things like that.

> This is not a gaming card. The OpenGL performance is worse than most
> TNT or TNT2 setups I've seen. This is on my machine at work though,
> where I spend 8 - 12 hours a day programming - so gaming wasn't
> high on my list (though we do play Quake 2 deathmatch in the office
> every now and then ).

Gaming won't be my main use for the screen. Graphics work (3D rendering and
2D drawing) will be a priority although Unreal Tournament and Quake3 will
get played :)

KC

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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I have a couple of SGIs at work. They're nice, but in my opinion the
resolution is too high for that size of display. Icons, etc. are very
small, and you had better have perfect vision to use one. The ones I have
also lack perfect brightness linearity , there is a brigher band along the
bottom edge, nothing objectionable, but notable nonetheless.

I'd say they have a very limited market. The #9 card is a fine 2D
accelerator, but its 3D performance is by no means state of the art. In
fact, the 3D performance doesn't really matter, because the monitor can't
really be used for gaming at all. Games won't run at its native resolution,
it doesn't scale, and the aspect ratio is wrong.

That said, it's a great setup for specific uses, such as web development and
some desktop publishing. No flat panel can display the number of colors
that an analog display can, so a CRT is more suitable for other types of
graphic design, such as photo editing.

I saw a 25" Fujitsu digital 4:3 aspect flatpanel at a trade show a few
months ago, but there's no sign of it showing up as a real product.
Stunning!

Until a killer solution presents itself, I use a Sony GDM-F500 flat CRT
display, with an AcerView F51 15" analog flatpanel as secondary under
multi-monitor support. The AcerView is my pick for analog FPs. I believe
it uses a Mitsubishi-sourced panel. Its resolution scaling is excellent.

KC

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Nomu Ka

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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>Which flat panel should I go for?

Check Samsung, LG-Phillips, and Toshiba. which companies
take up almost over seventy percents of the World TFT LCD
market.

>Do any of you use them?

I'm using a Cardinal 15.1 inch LCD monitor at home... so far,
so good; crisp and vibrant images with absolutely no flickers...

Check Cardinal's home; http://www.cardinal.co.kr/enghome/index.html

KC

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Atomic Skull

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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In article <slrn80m5at...@homer.acetech.int>, is...@homer.acetech.int
says...

>
>I'm using the SGI wide aspect ratio flat panel. The display resolution is
>1600 x 1024. It's a very sharp display, but it's also quite expensive:
>
>$2200 for the display and a #9 Revolution IV video card with 32M of RAM.


It uses a standard DFP port correct?? If so, then souldn't any card with
such a port work with it?


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Jose Cardoso

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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Atomic Skull <ask...@jps.net> wrote in message
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>
> It uses a standard DFP port correct?? If so, then souldn't any card
with
> such a port work with it?
>

From what I've read it only supports a second generation OpenLDI interface.

It seems that the Number Nine Revolution IV-FP is the only card to support
this at the moment. Maybe NVidia and 3dfx should be pressured into
supporting this interface.

Jeff McWilliams

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Oct 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/20/99
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In article <QgPO3.1$172.45@ha1>, KC wrote:
>I have a couple of SGIs at work. They're nice, but in my opinion the
>resolution is too high for that size of display. Icons, etc. are very
>small, and you had better have perfect vision to use one. The ones I have
>also lack perfect brightness linearity , there is a brigher band along the
>bottom edge, nothing objectionable, but notable nonetheless.
>
>I'd say they have a very limited market. The #9 card is a fine 2D
>accelerator, but its 3D performance is by no means state of the art. In
>fact, the 3D performance doesn't really matter, because the monitor can't
>really be used for gaming at all. Games won't run at its native resolution,
>it doesn't scale, and the aspect ratio is wrong.
>
>That said, it's a great setup for specific uses, such as web development and
>some desktop publishing. No flat panel can display the number of colors
>that an analog display can, so a CRT is more suitable for other types of
>graphic design, such as photo editing.
>
>I saw a 25" Fujitsu digital 4:3 aspect flatpanel at a trade show a few
>months ago, but there's no sign of it showing up as a real product.
>Stunning!
>
>Until a killer solution presents itself, I use a Sony GDM-F500 flat CRT
>display, with an AcerView F51 15" analog flatpanel as secondary under
>multi-monitor support. The AcerView is my pick for analog FPs. I believe
>it uses a Mitsubishi-sourced panel. Its resolution scaling is excellent.
>


Actually, it does scale. 640 x 480 is full screen as I recall, or close to it.
I think other resolutions between 640 x 480 and 1600 x 1024 do not scale
however.

You may be right about the color/brightness purity. I have software development
tools open all day, and for that it's great.
I think it's a great software development/web development/word processing
monitor. It may not be great for photo editing or for game playing.

The size of the icons don't bother me. If it's a problem, turn on
"Use Large Icons" in the display properties of Windows.
I actually preper being able to stack a column of 15 or so nicely spaced
icons along the left and right hand sides of the display.
The clarity/sharpness is excellent, so the small print doesn't bother me
either. I can have an xterm window open that's 80 columns by 71 lines and
put three such windows across on the screen. It's the closes thing to
black print on white paper to me.

celia...@my-deja.com

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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In article <7ufd9e$rcp$1...@news2.kornet.net>,
> Would your Cardinal 15.1 be good for sharp 2D graphics? Does it have all adjustments?Where can I find it?Don't tell me Korea, Thanks.Oh, How$Much?
Ron

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