“Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity”

Lynn McGuire

unread,

Nov 28, 2023, 10:04:36 PM11/28/23

to

“Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity”

https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity

Now that is a rack !

Lynn

VanguardLH

unread,

Nov 28, 2023, 10:28:16 PM11/28/23

to

Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> “Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity”
> https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity

https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/R4106I190800002/SEAGATE/R4106I190800002/CORVAULT-4U106-WITH-106X-18TB-STRAYCORVAULT-4U106-RAID-12G-SAS/
$66.398.99 (remember to add the sale tax). Yeah, just pocket change.
And that's just the 106X 18TB array for a 1.9PB JOBD. Not likely any
company will buy this that doesn't also buy support, so add that cost.

Char Jackson

unread,

Nov 29, 2023, 12:01:59 AM11/29/23

to

I don't know how many organizations actually need this kind of storage, and most
who do are probably getting it from one of the major cloud storage providers,
especially AWS. Having said that, the best customer for a 2.5PB vault might be
the cloud storage providers themselves. As for the cost, it really is just
pocket change.

Lynn McGuire

unread,

Nov 29, 2023, 4:49:22 PM11/29/23

to

The NSA. The CIA. The FBI. The DOJ. Several other three and four
letter agencies.

Any and all of the Fortune 5,000 companies, especially the engineering
companies.

When I worked for TXU back in the 1980s, we had a GIS system built on a
IBM 3090 with 300 freestanding disk drives occupying a basement the size
of a football field. It looked like that movie Alien in the scene with
all of the pods with baby aliens ready for transplantation in them.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire

unread,

Nov 29, 2023, 8:31:27 PM11/29/23

to

Backblaze builds their own 60 drive pods and stocks them with 4 TB to 22
TB drives right now.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/the-storage-pod-story-innovation-to-commodity/

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-2023/

Lynn

Char Jackson

unread,

Nov 29, 2023, 10:58:13 PM11/29/23

to

On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 15:49:18 -0600, Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/28/2023 11:01 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 21:28:13 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
>>
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> “Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity”
>>>> https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity
>>>
>>> https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/R4106I190800002/SEAGATE/R4106I190800002/CORVAULT-4U106-WITH-106X-18TB-STRAYCORVAULT-4U106-RAID-12G-SAS/
>>> $66.398.99 (remember to add the sale tax). Yeah, just pocket change.
>>> And that's just the 106X 18TB array for a 1.9PB JOBD. Not likely any
>>> company will buy this that doesn't also buy support, so add that cost.
>>
>> I don't know how many organizations actually need this kind of storage, and most
>> who do are probably getting it from one of the major cloud storage providers,
>> especially AWS. Having said that, the best customer for a 2.5PB vault might be
>> the cloud storage providers themselves. As for the cost, it really is just
>> pocket change.
>
>The NSA. The CIA. The FBI. The DOJ. Several other three and four
>letter agencies.

Vanguard mentioned companies, so I was responding to that. If you're going to
bring in government, especially that part of government, then I'll grant you
that. They'll want local control of their data. I've consulted at a lot of state
and local governments, though, and they mostly don't seem interested in hosting
their own data. I see a lot of references to AWS.

>Any and all of the Fortune 5,000 companies, especially the engineering
>companies.

Since 2013 I've consulted at a few hundred companies that mostly call themselves
Fortune 500 or even Fortune 100, and like above, I've seen precious few data
farms and a whole lot of references to offsite cloud storage, especially AWS but
also some Azure. My impression is that local data storage is in steep decline,
in favor of cloud storage. The big guys are very good at what they do.

>When I worked for TXU back in the 1980s, we had a GIS system built on a
>IBM 3090 with 300 freestanding disk drives occupying a basement the size
>of a football field. It looked like that movie Alien in the scene with
>all of the pods with baby aliens ready for transplantation in them.

Times have changed. :-) When I worked for Sprint, I spec'd and built a whopping
4TB drive array somewhere around 2003, using nothing but 9GB SCSI drives. The
idea was to improve I/O performance by increasing the number of spindles. What a
time to be alive.