Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss
Windows XP and 64GB flash drives
5,515 views
Skip to first unread message
Daniel Prince
Aug 20, 2012, 8:46:55 AM8/20/12
to
Someone told me that Windows XP will not work with 64GB flash
drives. Is that true? Thank you in advance for all replies.
--
When I am in the kitchen, I often kick one of my cat's balls.
After I kick it, he will sometimes play with it for a few
seconds to several minutes. His favorite are the ones that
rattle. He'll play with any ball that makes noise.
drives. Is that true? Thank you in advance for all replies.
--
When I am in the kitchen, I often kick one of my cat's balls.
After I kick it, he will sometimes play with it for a few
seconds to several minutes. His favorite are the ones that
rattle. He'll play with any ball that makes noise.
R.Wieser
Aug 20, 2012, 9:57:05 AM8/20/12
to
Daniel,
The problem seems to lie in the fact that XP cannot *format* a drive larger
than 32 GB.
Funnily enough w98 had no problems with that, but that one FDISK could not
handle such a large storage ...
See what MS says about it here :
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q314463&
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional message:
Daniel Prince <neut...@ca.rr.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
d7c438pnbhn7gt9nu...@4ax.com...
The problem seems to lie in the fact that XP cannot *format* a drive larger
than 32 GB.
Funnily enough w98 had no problems with that, but that one FDISK could not
handle such a large storage ...
See what MS says about it here :
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q314463&
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional message:
Daniel Prince <neut...@ca.rr.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
d7c438pnbhn7gt9nu...@4ax.com...
Arno
Aug 20, 2012, 12:01:25 PM8/20/12
to
If it is not pre-formatted, you can either paritition the
64GB drive or format it with something else, e.g. a Linux
life-CD. While XP cannot format larger than 32GB it has
no trouble using them when formatted.
Chances are that a new 65GB flash drive is formatted
with VFAT and works with XP.
Arno
Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: ar...@wagner.name
GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F
----
Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
GMAN
Aug 20, 2012, 1:04:39 PM8/20/12
to
In article <50324142$0$6919$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, "R.Wieser" <add...@not.available> wrote:
>Daniel,
>
> The problem seems to lie in the fact that XP cannot *format* a drive larger
>than 32 GB.
Not true, it just cannot format (Without a third party app) using FAT32. I
>Daniel,
>
> The problem seems to lie in the fact that XP cannot *format* a drive larger
>than 32 GB.
have formatted a 64GB flash drive repeatedly on Windows XP Pro SP3 both with
NTFS or using a 3rd party app in FAT32 for use in an old media player.
R.Wieser
Aug 20, 2012, 1:20:22 PM8/20/12
to
GMAN,
My apologies, I should have been more clear in the specifics of it.
Luckily I provided a link to an MS webpage with all the details .... :-)
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional message:
GMAN <Winnie...@100acrewoods.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
A6uYr.409535$Ub2.2...@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com...
My apologies, I should have been more clear in the specifics of it.
Luckily I provided a link to an MS webpage with all the details .... :-)
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional message:
A6uYr.409535$Ub2.2...@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com...
VanguardLH
Aug 20, 2012, 7:03:18 PM8/20/12
to
"R.Wieser" wrote:
> The problem seems to lie in the fact that XP cannot *format* a drive larger
> than 32 GB.
That's a limitation of formatting using FAT32 on the flash drive. The
> The problem seems to lie in the fact that XP cannot *format* a drive larger
> than 32 GB.
format command in Windows XP won't *create* a FAT32 partition larger
than 32GB in size; however, that doesn't preclude you from using 3rd
party partition managers to enlarge that partition to encompass the rest
of the available free space on the device. Even if you create and then
enlarge a FAT32 partition, you will still have the limit of 4GB for the
maximum size of a file.
If you convert to NTFS then there is no such limit. If you format as an
NTFS partition on the flash drive, there isn't the 32GB limitation.
Under NTFS, you also won't incur the 4GB maximum size for a file.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/format-usb-drive/
Joseph Terner
Aug 20, 2012, 8:37:21 PM8/20/12
to
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 05:46:55 -0700, Daniel Prince wrote:
> Someone told me that Windows XP will not work with 64GB flash drives.
> Is that true? Thank you in advance for all replies.
It works after installing the Exfat IFS driver (KB955704) via Windows
> Someone told me that Windows XP will not work with 64GB flash drives.
> Is that true? Thank you in advance for all replies.
Update.
Joseph
R.Wieser
Aug 21, 2012, 9:04:40 AM8/21/12
to
Joseph,
From the MS webpage to that update:
"The exFAT file system is the *successor* to FAT32 in the FAT family of file
systems"
That could mean that exFAT is only usable on other machines having that
patch. It would be a good idea to check ....
Also read other posts here: Although XP cannot format drives larger than 32
GB with FAT32 there are other programs (including w98's FORMAT) which does
not have that limitation.
Regards
pan.2012.08...@xylex.homeunix.org...
From the MS webpage to that update:
"The exFAT file system is the *successor* to FAT32 in the FAT family of file
systems"
That could mean that exFAT is only usable on other machines having that
patch. It would be a good idea to check ....
Also read other posts here: Although XP cannot format drives larger than 32
GB with FAT32 there are other programs (including w98's FORMAT) which does
not have that limitation.
Regards
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional message:
Joseph Terner <jtusene...@gmx.de> schreef in berichtnieuws
-- Origional message:
pan.2012.08...@xylex.homeunix.org...
R.Wieser
Aug 21, 2012, 9:12:53 AM8/21/12
to
Vanguard,
> The format command in Windows XP won't *create*
> a FAT32 partition larger than 32GB in size;
FORMAT does not *create* such a partition, FDISK(/the equivalent on XP)
does.
> that doesn't preclude you from using 3rd party partition
> managers to enlarge that partition to encompass the rest
> of the available free space on the device
The other way around I'm afraid. Parititioning on an XP machine will
succeede, its the formatting that needs to be done either by a third-party
program or somewhere else.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional message:
VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> schreef in berichtnieuws
k0ufnb$cn9$1...@news.albasani.net...
> The format command in Windows XP won't *create*
> a FAT32 partition larger than 32GB in size;
does.
> that doesn't preclude you from using 3rd party partition
> managers to enlarge that partition to encompass the rest
> of the available free space on the device
succeede, its the formatting that needs to be done either by a third-party
program or somewhere else.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional message:
k0ufnb$cn9$1...@news.albasani.net...
David Brown
Aug 21, 2012, 10:25:49 AM8/21/12
to
On 21/08/2012 15:04, R.Wieser wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> From the MS webpage to that update:
>
> "The exFAT file system is the *successor* to FAT32 in the FAT family of file
> systems"
>
> That could mean that exFAT is only usable on other machines having that
> patch. It would be a good idea to check ....
"exFAT" is not a "successor to FAT32", no matter what MS tries to tell
> Joseph,
>
> From the MS webpage to that update:
>
> "The exFAT file system is the *successor* to FAT32 in the FAT family of file
> systems"
>
> That could mean that exFAT is only usable on other machines having that
> patch. It would be a good idea to check ....
you. It is just yet another file system, with marginal benefits over
FAT32 (such as being more efficient for larger partitions, and
supporting files greater than 4 GB), and huge disadvantages. It's main
reason for existing is that FAT32 is well-supported by non-Windows OS's
and embedded systems, without bringing in any income to MS. But since
details of exFAT are secret, patented, copyrighted, licensed, etc.,
there is little support outside Windows, and embedded systems that use
it have to pay royalties to MS.
It is difficult to imagine a worse choice of filesystem for any purpose.
GMAN
Aug 21, 2012, 1:11:14 PM8/21/12
to
In article <503270e6$0$6958$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, "R.Wieser" <add...@not.available> wrote:
>GMAN,
>
>My apologies, I should have been more clear in the specifics of it.
>
>Luckily I provided a link to an MS webpage with all the details .... :-)
>
>Regards,
>Rudy Wieser
>
Hey, no need to appologise, we are all here to put our 2 cents in and help
>GMAN,
>
>My apologies, I should have been more clear in the specifics of it.
>
>Luckily I provided a link to an MS webpage with all the details .... :-)
>
>Regards,
>Rudy Wieser
>
eachother.
GMAN
Aug 21, 2012, 1:12:36 PM8/21/12
to
Xp or newer, you might as well format it NTFS
Joseph Terner
Aug 21, 2012, 4:05:48 PM8/21/12
to
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:04:40 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
> From the MS webpage to that update:
>
> "The exFAT file system is the *successor* to FAT32 in the FAT family of
> file systems"
>
> That could mean that exFAT is only usable on other machines having that
> patch. It would be a good idea to check ....
For specific flash media like SDXC you need that patch anyway.
> From the MS webpage to that update:
>
> "The exFAT file system is the *successor* to FAT32 in the FAT family of
> file systems"
>
> That could mean that exFAT is only usable on other machines having that
> patch. It would be a good idea to check ....
> Also read other posts here: Although XP cannot format drives larger than
> 32 GB with FAT32 there are other programs (including w98's FORMAT) which
> does not have that limitation.
drives, because Microsoft DOS doesn't support them.
So digging out tools from the stone age doesn't help. But of course there
are mkdosfs and others.
Joseph
R.Wieser
Aug 21, 2012, 6:02:05 PM8/21/12
to
Hello Joseph,
> Windows 98's FORMAT is actually a DOS program
> and it cannot format flash drives, because Microsoft
> DOS doesn't support them.
Simple solution: don't boot into DOS. :-)
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional mesage:
> Windows 98's FORMAT is actually a DOS program
> and it cannot format flash drives, because Microsoft
> DOS doesn't support them.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
-- Origional mesage:
Franc Zabkar
Aug 21, 2012, 7:05:07 PM8/21/12
to
On 21 Aug 2012 20:05:48 GMT, Joseph Terner <jtusene...@gmx.de>
put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Windows 98's FORMAT is actually a DOS program and it cannot format flash
>drives, because Microsoft DOS doesn't support them.
I use Win98Se, and it FDISKs and FORMATs USB drives just fine. In fact
I set up a 320GB USB HDD using Win98SE. And, BTW, DOS drivers for USB
storage devices do exist. I use them. :-)
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Windows 98's FORMAT is actually a DOS program and it cannot format flash
>drives, because Microsoft DOS doesn't support them.
I set up a 320GB USB HDD using Win98SE. And, BTW, DOS drivers for USB
storage devices do exist. I use them. :-)
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
VanguardLH
Aug 21, 2012, 9:25:13 PM8/21/12
to
"R.Wieser" wrote:
> Vanguard,
>
>> The format command in Windows XP won't *create* a FAT32 partition
>> larger than 32GB in size;
>
> FORMAT does not *create* such a partition, FDISK(/the equivalent on
> XP) does.
Yep, you're right. It's the FDISK command that creates partitions. It
> Vanguard,
>
>> The format command in Windows XP won't *create* a FAT32 partition
>> larger than 32GB in size;
>
> FORMAT does not *create* such a partition, FDISK(/the equivalent on
> XP) does.
is the FORMAT command (that you use to layout a particular file system
within a partition), as you noted via the MS KB article, that won't
structure a partition larger than 32GB.
VanguardLH
Aug 21, 2012, 9:49:15 PM8/21/12
to
"R.Wieser" wrote:
> Joseph Terner ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exfat#Support_on_other_platforms
The OP is asking about removable storage media. exFAT is usable only if
using the flash drive on other Windows or mobile hosts where exFAT is
supported or support has been added. Good luck with that.
> Joseph Terner ...
>
>> Daniel Prince wrote:
>>
>>> Someone told me that Windows XP will not work with 64GB flash drives.
>>> Is that true? Thank you in advance for all replies.
>>
>> It works after installing the Exfat IFS driver (KB955704) via Windows
>> Update.
>> Daniel Prince wrote:
>>
>>> Someone told me that Windows XP will not work with 64GB flash drives.
>>> Is that true? Thank you in advance for all replies.
>>
>> It works after installing the Exfat IFS driver (KB955704) via Windows
>> Update.
> From the MS webpage to that update:
>
> "The exFAT file system is the *successor* to FAT32 in the FAT family of file
> systems"
>
> That could mean that exFAT is only usable on other machines having that
> patch. It would be a good idea to check ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exfat#Disadvantages
>
> "The exFAT file system is the *successor* to FAT32 in the FAT family of file
> systems"
>
> That could mean that exFAT is only usable on other machines having that
> patch. It would be a good idea to check ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exfat#Support_on_other_platforms
The OP is asking about removable storage media. exFAT is usable only if
using the flash drive on other Windows or mobile hosts where exFAT is
supported or support has been added. Good luck with that.
0 new messages