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How do I get rid of Dynamic Disk Overlay?

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than...@telerama.lm.com

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Feb 22, 1995, 7:16:48 PM2/22/95
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> Western Digital Tech Support says that I need to
> low-level-format the disk using Disk Manager's low level features to get rid
> of D.D.O. (!?!) Is there some other way to exterminate it? I would
> appreciate knowing for sure before I set to this task.
>
> Thanks
> Michael
I had the same problem and had to low level format the disk to rid it of Disl Manager. I got the utility to do so from
Western Digital's BBS. As I recall though, there is some information you'll need in order to give the program it needs
to run.

Jeff


stephb

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Feb 23, 1995, 9:06:53 AM2/23/95
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In article <michaels.1...@mit.edu>, mich...@mit.edu (Michael J. Schwartz) says:
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>I have a WD2540 (540M) drive. I originally formatted (high level) with
>Ontrack Disk Manager, which was bundle by Western Digital with the disk. This
>gave me 539.6 MilB (32937 X 16K), but tied me to DOS. I decided that I would
>rather have some OS options, so I rebooted with my old disk as master and
>formatted the new one with fdisk and dos's format /s to get 515.8 MilB (62967
>X 8K). I then made the master/slave swap,
>to get the big disk in position to boot.
>It seems that I eliminated Disk Manager, but not Ontrack's Dynamic Disk
>Overlay. If I boot from floppy and then move to drive C:, everything is fine.
>However, if I boot from C:, D. D. O. comes up, (from the boot sector?)
>recognizes my disk as 32937 sectors of 16K, and the disk appears to be a mess:
>many lost chains, lost directories, scrambled file contents. Rebooting from
>floppy, everything is fixed. Western Digital Tech Support says that I need to
>low-level-format the disk using Disk Manager's low level features to get rid
>of D.D.O. (!?!) Is there some other way to exterminate it? I would
>appreciate knowing for sure before I set to this task.
>
>Thanks
>Michael
>


You DO NOT have to low level format an IDE drive to get rid of DDO. We
would NEVER release a program that had such requirements! (I'm not yelling
at you Michael, just frustrated that this mis-information continues)

The biggest problem folks have in getting rid of DDO is that you have to
boot to a floppy with that doesn't call our driver (dmdrvr.bin) before
attempting to remove DDO (in essence, you're making sure that DDO doesn't
load). When you have done this, simply use FDisk to remove all partitions
and recreate new partitions. Use the DOS format command, and Viola! all
gone!! You can also just use Disk Manager with a /y- switch (eg dm/y- )
to do all of the above in a single step.

PLEASE contact me with any questions.

ste...@ontrack.com

Julian Bradbury

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Feb 23, 1995, 1:19:10 PM2/23/95
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In article: <3ii4pt$6...@cedar.mr.net> ste...@ontrack.com (stephb) writes:
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> You DO NOT have to low level format an IDE drive to get rid of DDO. We
> would NEVER release a program that had such requirements! (I'm not yelling
> at you Michael, just frustrated that this mis-information continues)

Then write a decent _off-line_ manual :)

- Fdisk /mbr is useful to know re unloading On-Track (if someone u/g's).
How many posts do I see _all over the place_ for that information. :(
eg, comp.os.linux.setup is *FULL* of such posts (LILO boots Linux via the MBR.)

> You can also just use Disk Manager with a /y- switch (eg dm/y- )
> to do all of the above in a single step.

Yes, but it is far from intuitive - as is doing it/the doc'n.

> PLEASE contact me with any questions.

Yes, but make v7.00 have a better manual.

So a) You will not get flamed so much ;)
b) You will have less mail to answer to :)

It's cheaper PR by a long way :)

______________________________________________________________________
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Michael J. Schwartz

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Feb 22, 1995, 6:01:26 PM2/22/95
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stephb

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Mar 2, 1995, 3:34:00 PM3/2/95
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In article <180001...@xabcs.demon.co.uk>, Jul...@xabcs.demon.co.uk (Julian Bradbury) says:
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>In article: <3ii4pt$6...@cedar.mr.net> ste...@ontrack.com (stephb) writes:
>>
>> You DO NOT have to low level format an IDE drive to get rid of DDO. We
>> would NEVER release a program that had such requirements! (I'm not yelling
>> at you Michael, just frustrated that this mis-information continues)
>
>Then write a decent _off-line_ manual :)


We hear and obey! :) The next version of Disk Manager will have a greatly
enhanced manual. It will still be an on-line manual (can't get around
that and meet the OEM requirements) but a harcopy can be easily created
if necessary.


>- Fdisk /mbr is useful to know re unloading On-Track (if someone u/g's).

That doesn't really clear everything off - just smacks the DDO load
mechanism. (You lost me on "u/g's")

>> You can also just use Disk Manager with a /y- switch (eg dm/y- )
>> to do all of the above in a single step.
>
> Yes, but it is far from intuitive - as is doing it/the doc'n.

The much-anticipated DM7 will also provide a much more graceful approach
to this, but I can't discuss more until it releases. (SOOON!)


> So a) You will not get flamed so much ;)
> b) You will have less mail to answer to :)

Hey, I live for this stuff!

> It's cheaper PR by a long way :)

I agree. I think we got caught in the transition of computer-users. When
I first started supporting DM, lo those many years ago, we mostly dealt
with consultants and other techs who wouldn't RTFM if their lives
depended on it! We are now working to meet the needs of a much wider
range of users. Frankly, I don't mind getting "flamed" (within reason,
folks :^> ) as it helps us guage our success and determine which areas
require further attention.

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