Removing Seagate Ontrack Disk Wizard???
jk...@trisoft.com
everything transfered and it is working fine, except...
I used the Seagate Disk Wizard (DW2000) to help with the installation.
Afterwards I did the "Uninstall" and it went away. However, it still comes
up with a blue block of stuff about it when I boot - it almost looks like
the Seagate program put in its own boot block with the "advertising" in it.
If it's not in the boot sector then I don't know where - I can't find it
anywhere else.
Ideas? Any reasonable way to get rid of it?
jmk
Alan Stratton
Alan Stratton
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Zvi Netiv
> Have you tried the old 'fdisk /mbr' from DOS?
FDISK /MBR won't even scratch the paint of the MBR if he installed Ontrack's
Disk Manager. See my other post in this thread.
Zvi
> <jk...@trisoft.com> wrote in message
> > I just installed a new Seagate hard drive on a Windows ME system. I got
> > everything transfered and it is working fine, except...
> >
> > I used the Seagate Disk Wizard (DW2000) to help with the installation.
> > Afterwards I did the "Uninstall" and it went away. However, it still comes
> > up with a blue block of stuff about it when I boot - it almost looks like
> > the Seagate program put in its own boot block with the "advertising" in it.
> >
> > If it's not in the boot sector then I don't know where - I can't find it
> > anywhere else.
> >
> > Ideas? Any reasonable way to get rid of it?
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Zvi Netiv
> I just installed a new Seagate hard drive on a Windows ME system. I got
> everything transfered and it is working fine, except...
> I used the Seagate Disk Wizard (DW2000) to help with the installation.
> Afterwards I did the "Uninstall" and it went away. However, it still comes
> up with a blue block of stuff about it when I boot - it almost looks like
> the Seagate program put in its own boot block with the "advertising" in it.
Sounds like you have the Disk Manager dynamic boot installed. Boot overlays'
nickname is "trouble".
> If it's not in the boot sector then I don't know where - I can't find it
> anywhere else.
If it's DM, then it's in the MBR.
> Ideas? Any reasonable way to get rid of it?
It depends. If it's Disk Manager, then removing the dynamic drive overlay (DDO)
without losing the data already on the drive is not a simple task but can be
done. You'll need a disk sector editor for the purpose, good understanding of
disk structures, and guidance. The DM removal tool provided by disk producers
will also remove all your data and files from the drive, not only the boot
overlay.
If what you installed is rather EZ-drive and not DM, then the removal is fairly
simple (retaining your data and files in functional state), with either a
Seagate dedicated tool, or with RESQDISK /REBUILD (www.resq.co.il/resq.php).
Read the primer on my page before attempting anything.
Regards, Zvi
jk...@trisoft.com
news:D21D290FD0DCC969.CFA683A7...@lp.airnews.net:
> It depends. If it's Disk Manager, then removing the dynamic drive
> overlay (DDO) without losing the data already on the drive is not a
> simple task but can be done.
>
> If what you installed is rather EZ-drive and not DM, then the removal
> is fairly simple
Thanks for the pointers... I will have to bring home some DOS sector
editor programs and have a look at the boot record (Win ME doesn't have the
"boot to DOS" option).
As for which it is... The install was "Disk Wizard" by Seagate, and this
appears to be part of how they regain control after a reboot (part of the
disk data transer procedure). However, the UNINSTALL for Disk Wizard
doesn't touch it (although it did remove anything from the startup
folders). Nothing in the Autoexec or Config files either.
The block lettering says "Starting ONTRACK... Disk Wizard".
Wouldn't particularly matter except:
a) I don't like things in my system that I didn't intentionally put there.
b) It slows down booting (waits a while with an option to boot from
floppy).
c) It... well, it's the principle of the thing, dang it!!! <G>
tnx, jmk
Larry Sabo
Here are some (hopefully) helpful links...
How DDO overlays work and can be removed...
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=wbassDv8J3n.MFC%40netcom.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3ii4pt%246bf%40cedar.mr.net
Disk Manager programs (which include utility for removing DM)...
http://www.vobis.de/bbs/firmen/quantum/general/
http://www.maxtor.com/products/DiamondMax/techsupport/TechnicalProcedures/24023.html
http://www.maxtor.com/softwaredownload/default.htm
I used the OnTrack DiskManager 3.0 program to remove a DDO from a 30
GB Quantum drive last week, and while it took *hours* to shuffle all
the sectors to refill the removed offset, it worked fine. I'm not sure
if it does so without data loss, as my drive had no data. I believe it
soes, though. I highly recommend the MaxBlast+2 program--it allowed me
to recover a 13 GB drive I foolishly low-level formatted with MaxLLF
in an effort to remoe the DDO. MaxLLF yielded a drive with apparently
ten times as much space as was really there. MacBlast+2 fixed it all
fine, by redoing the low level format and recreating the partitions.
Good luck!
Larry