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Neil McBennett

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Aug 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/20/95
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I have the now obligatory Quantum Fireball 1 gig which I
WAS using Ontrack on.I have tried to remove this, but
whatever I do I still get the blue Dynamic Overlay
banner at boot up.
What do I do, HELP !!!!!!!
Thanks in advance

Neil


Ralf-Peter Rohbeck

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Aug 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/21/95
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Use FDISK /MBR if your DOS version supports it to write a new master boot
sector.
Otherwise, use Norton Diskedit (with the /m option) or a similar program to
clean the master boot sector. Note that this deletes all partitions.

Ralf-Peter
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Ralf-Peter Rohbeck rroh...@qntm.com
Quantum GmbH-Application Engineering-Central Europe (+49) 69-950767-18
Berner Str. 28, 60437 Frankfurt, Germany fax (+49) 69-950767-91

Tom

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Aug 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/21/95
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Neil McBennett (nm...@dircon.co.uk) mumbled something like:
: I have the now obligatory Quantum Fireball 1 gig which I
: WAS using Ontrack on.I have tried to remove this, but
: whatever I do I still get the blue Dynamic Overlay
: banner at boot up.
: What do I do, HELP !!!!!!!
: Thanks in advance

Delete the file C:\XBIOS.OVL and it should fix your problem. You can
also boot from floppy if you're planning to repartition/reformat. If you
used Disk Manager to partition/format, you might not be able to access
your drive after booting from floppy (or after deleting XBIOS, for that
matter).

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Curtis Farley

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Aug 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/22/95
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In article <418gv7$4...@newsgate.dircon.co.uk>, nm...@dircon.co.uk says...

>
>I have the now obligatory Quantum Fireball 1 gig which I
>WAS using Ontrack on.I have tried to remove this, but
>whatever I do I still get the blue Dynamic Overlay
>banner at boot up.
>What do I do, HELP !!!!!!!
>Thanks in advance
>
>Neil

Neil,
I had the same problem with my WD 540. Assuming that it runs
similarly, try this:
1) Boot from a floppy that has f-disk and format on it.
2) fdisk /mbr (Ontrack was kept on my Master Boot Record/Boot sector)
3) Reboot from the floppy.
4) Use fdisk to delete your old partitions. They should be NON-DOS
partitions.
5) Reboot from the floppy.
6) Use fdisk to make your new partitions (make sure that you have enabled the
LBA mode for that particular drive.
7) Reboot from the floppy.
8) Format your drive and you should be ready to go!

I think the key steps are 3, 5 and 7. You must make sure that the
old boot sector information does not stay in memory. That is why you haven't
been able to get rid of it (I think). Also, I might have steps 2 and 4
backwards, try switching them if the first doesn't work. Good luck and let
me know what happens!!

Curtis Farley

cfa...@indyunix.iupui.edu


stephb

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Aug 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/22/95
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>Neil McBennett <nm...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I have the now obligatory Quantum Fireball 1 gig which I
>>WAS using Ontrack on.I have tried to remove this, but
>>whatever I do I still get the blue Dynamic Overlay
>>banner at boot up.
>>What do I do, HELP !!!!!!!
>>Thanks in advance
>>
Disk Manager version 7 has an item on the main menu that will uninstall.

Typically though, you need to backup all of the data, boot clean (no
drivers loaded) from a floppy, then use fdisk to deleted existing partitions
and create new ones. Next use the DOS Format command for the high
level and then restore your data.

You have to remove the existing partitions because they are predicated
on the parameters that Disk Manager was suppling. Without Disk
Manager, you will have different parameters and the partitions will no
longer "make sense".

Stephanie Brady
Ontrack Tech Support

The opinions expressed are my own and not
necessarily those of my employer,
Ontrack Computer Systems

stephb

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Aug 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/22/95
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In article <41b4ni$p...@ralph.vnet.net>, tc...@jazzmin.vnet.net (Tom) says:
>
-------SNIP--------

>Delete the file C:\XBIOS.OVL and it should fix your problem. You can
>also boot from floppy if you're planning to repartition/reformat. If you
>used Disk Manager to partition/format, you might not be able to access
>your drive after booting from floppy (or after deleting XBIOS, for that
>matter).

This doesn't apply to Disk Manager versions 6 or 7.

stephb

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Aug 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/22/95
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In article <41bk2g$f...@aim.tech.iupui.edu>, cfa...@indyunix.iupui.edu (Curtis Farley) says:

-------SNIP--------


> You must make sure that the old boot sector information does not stay
> in memory. That is why you haven't been able to get rid of it (I think).

You are exactly right! Thanks for the assistance.

ca...@sna.com

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Aug 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/23/95
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>Neil McBennett <nm...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I have the now obligatory Quantum Fireball 1 gig which I
>>WAS using Ontrack on.I have tried to remove this, but
>>whatever I do I still get the blue Dynamic Overlay
>>banner at boot up.
>>Neil
>>
>Use FDISK /MBR if your DOS version supports it to write a new master boot
>sector.

fdisk /mbr is listed at a net location as being able to remove the master boot
record where disk manager stores its dynamic drive info, but i could not get
the fdisk in dos 6.2 to remove dm.

i finally removed it by calling ontrack and using the unistall process of dm
per their instructions. (the uninstall feature is not listed anywhere in the
documentation - but try dm/m then alt t)

stephb

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Aug 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/23/95
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In article <calaw.414...@sna.com>, ca...@sna.com says:
>
>fdisk /mbr is listed at a net location as being able to remove the master boot
>record where disk manager stores its dynamic drive info, but i could not get
>the fdisk in dos 6.2 to remove dm.

Most likely, you were not booting from a clean diskette (no drivers loaded).
When you do this, you can then delete the non-dos partition with FDisk

>i finally removed it by calling ontrack and using the unistall process of dm
>per their instructions. (the uninstall feature is not listed anywhere in the
>documentation - but try dm/m then alt t)

It's not listed in the documentation because it was a hidden feature in that
version. I would most definately NOT recommend that folks try that
indescriminately as they will get different results from different versions
of Disk Manager.

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