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Dave in Philadelphia

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Oct 8, 2008, 12:38:23 PM10/8/08
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I have decade-old Western Digital, Maxtor and Toshiba drives still
chugging away, but this putrid piece of penguin poop is already going bad.

What the heck sort of company is this? I lost 5GB of important jpeg data
and I am hopping mad.

--
David Jones

chrisv

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Oct 8, 2008, 2:09:33 PM10/8/08
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Dave in Philadelphia wrote:

>I lost 5GB of important jpeg data and I am hopping mad.

Ever hear of a backup?

Stupid cross-poster. Serves you right.

*plonk*

Peter Köhlmann

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Oct 8, 2008, 2:21:44 PM10/8/08
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Dave in Philadelphia wrote:

Oh, looky looky: A windows user to stupid to do backups, although he is
using the shittiest OS ever written.

Serves you right to lose all your data, not just a paltry 5GB
--
Microsoft software doesn't get released - it escapes, leaving
a trail of destruction behind it.

Rod Speed

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Oct 8, 2008, 2:29:52 PM10/8/08
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What sort of a fool doesnt have backups ?


Alan Baker

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Oct 8, 2008, 3:21:03 PM10/8/08
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In article <gcinm5$plt$1...@registered.motzarella.org>,

Dave in Philadelphia <x@y.z> wrote:

Huh.

Perhaps you should have had a good backup...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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Peter Köhlmann

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Oct 8, 2008, 3:23:47 PM10/8/08
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Alan Baker wrote:

> In article <gcinm5$plt$1...@registered.motzarella.org>,
> Dave in Philadelphia <x@y.z> wrote:
>
>> I have decade-old Western Digital, Maxtor and Toshiba drives still
>> chugging away, but this putrid piece of penguin poop is already going
>> bad.
>>
>> What the heck sort of company is this? I lost 5GB of important jpeg data
>> and I am hopping mad.
>
> Huh.
>
> Perhaps you should have had a good backup...
>

Windows Home Server might be a good idea. It is reported to lose data
extremely reliable...
--
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Windows will reboot now to make the change permanent

Arno Wagner

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Oct 8, 2008, 5:06:11 PM10/8/08
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Ever heard that disks have a chance of dying? Even without moshandling?
And especially consumer-grade disks? Also ever heard of backup?

Seems to me the only thing really bad here is your perspective
and knowledge...

Arno

Roy Schestowitz

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Oct 8, 2008, 4:59:57 PM10/8/08
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____/ Peter Köhlmann on Wednesday 08 October 2008 19:23 : \____

> Alan Baker wrote:
>
>> In article <gcinm5$plt$1...@registered.motzarella.org>,
>> Dave in Philadelphia <x@y.z> wrote:
>>
>>> I have decade-old Western Digital, Maxtor and Toshiba drives still
>>> chugging away, but this putrid piece of penguin poop is already going
>>> bad.
>>>
>>> What the heck sort of company is this? I lost 5GB of important jpeg data
>>> and I am hopping mad.
>>
>> Huh.
>>
>> Perhaps you should have had a good backup...
>>
>
> Windows Home Server might be a good idea. It is reported to lose data
> extremely reliable...

Hey! be nice. It took them 'only' 9-12 months to fix that 'moderate' bug. :-)

Stay Away from Home Server Day Care

,----[ Quote ]
| The problem is fundamental in several ways. Data corruption or deletion
| occurs "when certain programs are used to edit or transfer files that are
| stored on a Windows Home Server-based computer that has more than one hard
| drive," according to the Microsoft support document. So, the problems are
| with file copying and data storage—both fundamental features—and occurring in
| the likeliest of scenarios: Multiple hard drives. Surely Microsoft must have
| known that the earliest adopters would be enthusiasts?      
|
| Nine programs are associated with the data problems, seven of them from
| Microsoft.  
`----

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/server/stay_away_from_home_server_day_care.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535


Data Corruption Bug - List of Potential Applications Affected Grows

,----[ Quote ]
| In summary, Microsoft has reproduced the bug successfully with the following
| applications:
|
|     * Windows Vista Photo Gallery
|     * Windows Live Photo Gallery
|     * Microsoft Office OneNote 2007
|     * Microsoft Office OneNote 2003
|     * Microsoft Office Outlook 2007
|     * Microsoft Money 2007
|     * SyncToy 2.0 Beta
|     * Intuit QuickBooks
|     * uTorrent
|
| Home Server users have reported the issue occurring with the following list
| of applications:
|
|     * Photoshop Elements
|     * Zune Software
|     * Apple iTunes
|     * TagScanner
|     * Mozilla Thunderbird
|     * Adobe Lightroom
|     * Intuit QuickenMS Digital Image Library
|     * MP3BookHelper
|     * ACDSee
|     * WinAmp
|     * Windows Media Player 11
|     * Microsoft Office Excel
|     * Visual DataFlex
|
| So, to put this in perspective, the list of potential applications affected
| is growing.  
`----

http://www.wegotserved.co.uk/2008/02/21/data-corruption-bug-list-of-potential-applications-affected-grows/


News Briefs: 1-17-08

,----[ Quote ]
| Windows Home Server Anti-evangelism. Microsoft technical evangelist Volker
| Will is really unhappy about Windows Home Server. I'm a big fan of the
| product marketing, but Will's anti-endorsement has me wondering about getting
| a HP MediaSmart Server as planned.  
`----

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/security/news_briefs_11708.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535


Windows Home Server bug corrupts files

,----[ Quote ]
| Given that the point of Windows Home Server is to allow you to store
| your media files, a bug in the storage process that could result in
| corrupted files is bound to get attention.
|
| Microsoft has issued a support document for the 13 or so (just
| kidding) people using Windows Home Server, the company's latest
| product for those attempting to build the digital home of the future.
| Apparently there's a flaw in the way Windows Home Server works with
| certain Microsoft applications, such as Windows Vista Photo Gallery,
| that could result in corrupted files if you use those applications to
| save files to the server. A list of the specific applications can be
| found in the support document.
`----

http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9838093-37.html?tag=newsmap


A Non-obvious Use for Debbie (a Debian 4.0 Home Server)

,----[ Quote ]
| So far Debbie has worked in all of the relatively simple roles I've put her
| to. AVI, MOV and JPG files all work well on either the Linux or Windows
| clients when served by Debbie. PDFs work in either Linux or Windows. They
| even work when accessed by browser plug-ins, either FireFox 2 or IE6 or 7.
| Copying files to and from Debbie by the kids has been easy to implement.    
`----

http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10007038o-2000440676b,00.htm


Welcome to the Ubuntu Home Server Project

,----[ Quote ]
| Ubuntu Home Server (UHS) will be an edition of the Ubuntu operating system
| which allows users to administer their home network.  
`----

http://www.ubuntuhomeserver.org/


Who needs Windows Home Server with Linux around?

,----[ Quote ]
| Is this a joke? I only recently started paying attention to Windows Home
| Server, since I tend to focus more on desktop operating systems and
| enterprise server systems. So I didn't realize until now that WHS is really
| just a vanilla file server.  
`----

http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS9015653445.html


Will bad backups doom Windows Home Server?

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft just announced it's working on Windows Home Server, which
| among other features, will automatically back up files on all PCs in
| the home. But if the product uses the same kind of brain-dead backup
| built into Windows Vista, this is a product that will be dead on arrival.
|
| The backup tool built into Windows Vista may be the worst utility
| every packed into an operating system. It doesn't allow you to back
| up individual files, folders or even file types. Instead, you have to
| back up every single file and folder of broad generic types.
|
| For example, if you want to back up a single picture, you have to back
| up every single graphic of every graphic file type on your entire PC,
| including all the graphics that Vista itself uses. This means you can
| be forced to back up hundreds of gigabytes of files if you only want
| to back up a few family photos.
`----

http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/4303


,----[ Quote ]
| In an entry on the Home Server blog, program manager Chris Sullivan
| said that the group has received nearly 2,400 bug reports so far from
| beta testers, and still had 495, or about 21% of the total, classified
| as "active."
`----

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9014183&intsrc=news_ts_head


Will Windows Home Server be Microsoft’s next flop?

,----[ Quote ]
| If you buy-off on the theory that the world seems to be heading in the
| opposite direction that Microsoft wants to lead it, then you can’t help but
| wonder what the long term prospects for an offering like Windows Home Server
| are. Not good, if you ask me.  
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=791


"Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not a bad
product, but bits and pieces are missing."

--Arno Edelmann, Microsoft's European business security product manager
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39286351,00.htm


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Timberwoof

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Oct 8, 2008, 6:21:26 PM10/8/08
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In article <gcinm5$plt$1...@registered.motzarella.org>,
Dave in Philadelphia <x@y.z> wrote:

1. Always do backups.
2. Some drive manufacturers are better than others. Some models and some
manufacturing runs are better than others. Read reviews...

As a last resort, you could try this:
But an identical hard drive to the one that went bad. Carefully swap
electronics boards, and see if the new one with the bad board is now
bad. If it is, try the old one with the new board: If you're lucky, it
will work. Immediately back everything up.

Oh ... you only have to back up important files. rec.nude?
rec.sport.pro-wrestling? Hmmmm.

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http://www.timberwoof.com
People who can't spell get kicked out of Hogwarts.

Mocassin Joe

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Oct 8, 2008, 6:45:20 PM10/8/08
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"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-24B0D...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...

> In article <gcinm5$plt$1...@registered.motzarella.org>,
> Dave in Philadelphia <x@y.z> wrote:
>
>> I have decade-old Western Digital, Maxtor and Toshiba drives still
>> chugging away, but this putrid piece of penguin poop is already going
>> bad.
>>
>> What the heck sort of company is this? I lost 5GB of important jpeg data
>> and I am hopping mad.
>
> Huh.
>
> Perhaps you should have had a good backup...

Didn't you read?? They already told him. I forgot - you love to hear
yourself.


JW

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Oct 9, 2008, 5:18:58 AM10/9/08
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:21:44 +0200 Peter Köhlmann
<peter.k...@arcor.de> wrote in Message id:
<48ecfa38$0$6612$9b4e...@newsspool3.arcor-online.net>:

>Dave in Philadelphia wrote:
>
>> I have decade-old Western Digital, Maxtor and Toshiba drives still
>> chugging away, but this putrid piece of penguin poop is already going bad.
>>
>> What the heck sort of company is this? I lost 5GB of important jpeg data
>> and I am hopping mad.
>>
>
>Oh, looky looky: A windows user to stupid to do backups, although he is
>using the shittiest OS ever written.

Reminds me of a joke I read the other day. Did you hear about the new
Microsoft vacuum cleaner? It's the only thing Microsoft has ever made that
*doesn't* suck.

Andrew Halliwell

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Oct 9, 2008, 8:01:46 AM10/9/08
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JW <no...@dev.null> wrote:
> Reminds me of a joke I read the other day. Did you hear about the new
> Microsoft vacuum cleaner? It's the only thing Microsoft has ever made that
> *doesn't* suck.

You only just heard that?
This sig has been one in my repertoire for over 14 years!
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| spi...@freenet.co.uk | |
| Andrew Halliwell BSc | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
| in | suck is probably the day they start making |
| Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |

Mocassin Joe

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Oct 9, 2008, 8:35:24 AM10/9/08
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"JW" <no...@dev.null> wrote in message
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HAR, HAR, HAR. They don't need a vacuum cleaner - they have you.


chrisv

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Oct 9, 2008, 8:37:12 AM10/9/08
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Arno Wagner wrote:

Way to pile-on, Arno.

Jesco Lincke

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Oct 9, 2008, 1:47:11 PM10/9/08
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Timberwoof schrieb:

> Oh ... you only have to back up important files. rec.nude?
> rec.sport.pro-wrestling? Hmmmm.
>

Oh yeah, you had to ruin it....
*removes the "B.Y.O. Troll food" sign covering the "Do not feed the
Trolls" notice*

Squeeze

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Oct 8, 2008, 7:05:03 PM10/8/08
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Dave in Philadelphia wrote an obvious troll in news:gcinm5$plt$1...@registered.motzarella.org

And 8 idiots that responded to it.

JW

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Oct 13, 2008, 5:23:04 AM10/13/08
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:35:24 -0400 "Mocassin Joe" <jmoca...@verizon.com>
wrote in Message id: <8SmHk.39623$IB6....@bignews8.bellsouth.net>:

I bet you stayed up all night thinking up that one. Sheesh. If I had
wanted to talk to somebody with your IQ, I would be at the supermarket
talking to the produce.

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