Question about the other episodes of wolf3d
ebbhead
complete 6 missions of wolf3d. However, before I plunk down my $50 and
change, I'd like to know from some people who have them if they are
definitely worth the money and possibly a little bit about the quality of
the other missions.
If you could, please e-mail as our news system is about a week behind here.
Thanks so much
-john
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Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~
Yes, yes, a thousand times YES!! the follow up missions are better that the
originals!! a steal at the price...
marc.a.levy
>Hi out there. I am seriously considering buzzing Apogee and ordering the
>complete 6 missions of wolf3d. However, before I plunk down my $50 and
>change, I'd like to know from some people who have them if they are
>definitely worth the money and possibly a little bit about the quality of
>the other missions.
>
I was going to buy it, but when I found out that the editors,
and map generators do not work with the new levels, I decided
not to buy it, because it bothers me that Appogee made those
programs un-usable.
Marc.
John Zuena
>
>We made the changes to thwart the mappers and editors because we had
>planned on holding some big money contests. The prizes were going to be a
>lifetime supply of registered Apogee games or a few thousand dollars. The
>editors, mappers and cheats turned the contest from a skill thing to a
>cheat thing.
>
>We've since withdrawn the contests and decided to let the mappers and
>editors roll. There is a mapper and editor now available that works with
>all versions of Wolf. We plan on pumping out the notes file format notes
>to anyone who wants to try and make an editor.
>
>Check your FTP site for MAPEDIT14 for the above mentioned editor.
Well, since Id isn't going to run the original contest and since a new
editor is available for all six episodes, why not have a map design
contest instead? Id could even package the best 5-10 missions as a new
expansion for the game and use the proceeds from that to finance the
contest.
Of course, there wouldn't be any new guards to fight in these levels...
unless someone has a guard editor??? :)
- John Zuena
Ben Rudiak-Gould
>We made the changes to thwart the mappers and editors because we had
>planned on holding some big money contests. The prizes were going to be a
>lifetime supply of registered Apogee games or a few thousand dollars. The
>editors, mappers and cheats turned the contest from a skill thing to a
>cheat thing.
What I will never understand is why, if you were trying to prevent people
from cheating, you didn't eliminate the debug mode from version 1.1. The
new version of MapEdit didn't come out until quite recently, and the contest
would probably have been over by now anyway. If you'd gotten rid of debug
mode, there would have been no easy way for the average person to cheat.
As it was, all I had to do was invoke debug mode (after finding out the new
switch and key combo by the same easy method I used for v1.0), enter TAB-T,
and page through the sprites until I found the magic word. I hate to say
it, but the failure of the contest may have been partially your fault.
>We've since withdrawn the contests and decided to let the mappers and
>editors roll. There is a mapper and editor now available that works with
>all versions of Wolf. We plan on pumping out the notes file format notes
>to anyone who wants to try and make an editor.
Am I the only person who has noticed that the maps for Commander Keen 4-6
are in the same format as the Wolf3d maps? Who's going to be the first
to take Bill Kirby's code and make a Keen level editor?
>Check your FTP site for MAPEDIT14 for the above mentioned editor.
^^ you mean 41, of course
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Did you just get an account on the net, or have you been reading this group
without our knowledge for a while? If the latter, I was just joking in that
article I wrote a few weeks ago. :-)
--
Ben Rudiak-Gould
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Jay Wilbur
: In article <BtHur...@iat.holonet.net> jwi...@iat.holonet.net (Jay Wilbur) writes:
: >
: >We made the changes to thwart the mappers and editors because we had
: >planned on holding some big money contests. The prizes were going to be a
: >lifetime supply of registered Apogee games or a few thousand dollars. The
: >editors, mappers and cheats turned the contest from a skill thing to a
: >cheat thing.
: >
: >We've since withdrawn the contests and decided to let the mappers and
: >editors roll. There is a mapper and editor now available that works with
: >all versions of Wolf. We plan on pumping out the notes file format notes
: >to anyone who wants to try and make an editor.
: >
: >Check your FTP site for MAPEDIT14 for the above mentioned editor.
:
: Well, since Id isn't going to run the original contest and since a new
: editor is available for all six episodes, why not have a map design
: contest instead? Id could even package the best 5-10 missions as a new
: expansion for the game and use the proceeds from that to finance the
: contest.
We just don't have the time to put the contest together and work on the
way cool new game we have planned.
--
Jay Wilbur
: jwi...@iat.holonet.net (Jay Wilbur) writes:
:
: >We made the changes to thwart the mappers and editors because we had
: >planned on holding some big money contests. The prizes were going to be a
: >lifetime supply of registered Apogee games or a few thousand dollars. The
: >editors, mappers and cheats turned the contest from a skill thing to a
: >cheat thing.
:
: What I will never understand is why, if you were trying to prevent people
: from cheating, you didn't eliminate the debug mode from version 1.1. The
: new version of MapEdit didn't come out until quite recently, and the contest
: would probably have been over by now anyway. If you'd gotten rid of debug
: mode, there would have been no easy way for the average person to cheat.
: As it was, all I had to do was invoke debug mode (after finding out the new
: switch and key combo by the same easy method I used for v1.0), enter TAB-T,
: and page through the sprites until I found the magic word. I hate to say
: it, but the failure of the contest may have been partially your fault.
Right you are. In fact the EXE was supposed to be release in an
non-unpackable, followable state. But the guy who was supposed to do that
didn't and we had to slap him.
Of course the finding the object contest was one one. We were going to
have a few. High score and low times were to be on-going contests (once
every three months).
: >We've since withdrawn the contests and decided to let the mappers and
: >editors roll. There is a mapper and editor now available that works with
: >all versions of Wolf. We plan on pumping out the notes file format notes
: >to anyone who wants to try and make an editor.
:
: Am I the only person who has noticed that the maps for Commander Keen 4-6
: are in the same format as the Wolf3d maps? Who's going to be the first
: to take Bill Kirby's code and make a Keen level editor?
:) We call it "CARMACIZED" after John Carmack, the author of the packing
code.
: >Check your FTP site for MAPEDIT14 for the above mentioned editor.
: ^^ you mean 41, of course
Opps.
: Did you just get an account on the net, or have you been reading this group
: without our knowledge for a while? If the latter, I was just joking in that
: article I wrote a few weeks ago. :-)
I just got on the net last week. What article? Did you blast us for
something?
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