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Argenta Placha
Dec 26, 2023, 12:43:53 PM12/26/23
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I found a 1997 laptop, a few months ago (no brand, but also known as the Mitac 5033). The 3 gigs HDD is detected in the BIOS, but isn't in MS-DOS boot floppies / in Mini Windows 3.11 floppy. I can't install Windows 95 because of an error. (The hard drive is always spinning when the computer is turned on.)
hi i am trying to figure out how to install windows 98 to the same hdd as i have windows 3.11 but to a different partition. the problem is that the win 98 installer always says that there already is another os installed. is there anny way to work around it ?
Windows 3.11 Bootable Floppy Edition Full Version
Download https://neuter-xperze.blogspot.com/?o=2wWz9O
What is the problem here? Do I manually have to add HDD and floppy in the bios? How is that even done if so? Or is something broken? Would be fun to try and get this working and perhaps get it to install windows 3.11 with some old games.
What is the problem here? Do I manually have to add HDD and floppy in the bios? How is that even done if so? Or is something broken? Would be fun to try and get this working and perhaps get it to install windows 3.11 with some old games.
OK so I've typed in the right numbers for my HDD and floppy, and the floppy seems to be working. What has changed about the HDD is that it no more says there is no bootable disk, but it says that there is no operating system now. And it says it in swedish which I find a bit odd if there is nothing on it, why would it say so in swedish? I'm
swedish but if there is nothing on the HDD wouldn't the computer just type everything out in English?
Is this your first DOS era computer? I think you need to read up on booting from a floppy disk. Then use a utility from floppy to troubleshoot your hard drive. If you have never had a DOS disk this might be a little tricky at first. But there are a few sites from where you can download a DOS diskette image and then use a piece of software to write out a bootable diskette to a USB floppy drive on your modern system. Of course you will need a USB floppy drive first.
In my case I have many DOS machines from many years ago so I already have many floppy diskettes and floppy drives. But by now floppies are ancient equipment and not many have them on their machines. But once you have a bootable DOS floppy you will be able to install Windows 95, or 3.11, to the hard drive.
I misplaced the original floppy that would have kicked off the Windows 3.11 CD-ROM install, so I tried using my Windows 98 boot floppy disk. It seemed to work OK. After I go through the Windows installation, reboot and try to launch Windows, the Windows for Workgroups 3.11 splash screen comes up and it starts cranking away, but it gives up and says "incorrect DOS version". This leads me to believe that the Windows 98 DOS is not recognized properly by Windows 3.11 because it is newer. Any suggestions?
here what i did .. i got the old hard drive that has system corrupted (which no longer can startup) i took ana image from it .. then i took an image from the new one ( he sent from germany) .. and i replaced all folder from the old one to the new one and when i get message to copy and replace i just say no ... so the old hard disk copied the missing files and folders to the new on .. and here we GOOOO ... it is working now and the software is up ... i told you guys i feel that man kept files or folders to force us buy new machine ... so the missing files are replaced now ... Thank you guys very very very much .... but i am still mad because i couldn't install windows 3.11 ... i wanted to beat my self in that ... but i can try on another machine tomorrow or in another time ....
That puts an absolute minimum bootable DOS on the hard drive: problem is,
the DOS that comes with Win98 isn't compatible with Windows 3.x --- and I
doubt DOS 6.22 is willing to install itself on top of that version.Did the site where you downloaded DOS 6.22 (*don't* repeat the URL here,
please) give any suggestion as to how to make the first disk bootable (as
the first disk from a real DOS installation set would be)?If so, you might want to try it.It's not clear to me if there is a way to make a bootable floppy for a
given version of DOS without access to a system that can already be booted
into that version of DOS. I can think of a couple of possibilities, but I
don't know if any of them will actually work.The following "brute force" method might be worth a try.Boot from your hard drive.Use:
md c:\dos622
path c:\dos622
to make a DOS directory and put it in your path.Put the first pseudo-DOS diskette in the floppy drive.If you set the system or hidden attributes on any files on that diskette,
you'll need to clear them; do this:
copy a:\attrib.exe c:\dos622
attrib -s a:*.*
attrib -h a:*.*
to remove those attributes from all files on the diskette.Use this command:
copy a:\*.* c:\dos622
to copy all the diskette's files to the hard drive.Put in a fresh floppy diskette.Use:
format a: /s
attrib -s a:*.*
attrib -h a:*.*
attrib -r a:*.*
del *.*
write a bootable floppy (which will, however, have the wrong boot files),
clear the system, hidden and read-only attributes from all files on the
floppy, and then delete all the files.Copy files to the new diskette, in this order:
copy c:\dos622\io.sys a:
copy c:\dos622\msdos.sys a:
copy c:\dos622\command.com a:
copy c:\dos622\*.* a:
(for the last command, answer NO when asked whether to replace files).Now, try to boot from the new diskette.If it won't boot, I don't know what to try next.
If it boots, but Setup complains about the version of DOS already on the
hard drive, boot from your Win98 boot disk again and "format c:" *without*
the "/s" switch; then boot from the new disk again.
--
Peace, Randy aka Coi... MindSpring.com
Pages at coises/ were updated 2 March 2001.
The original poster's fundamental problem is that he downloaded
MS-DOS 6.22 from somewhere on the Internet. The first disk *may* contain
the correct files --- but however he made it, it isn't bootable.The key question here is how to make a *bootable* MS-DOS 6.22 floppy (or
otherwise get MS-DOS 6.22 installed) when you have copies of all the
installation files, but only a Win 98 boot floppy. Something has to write
the boot record --- will any DOS command write a correct boot record for
MS-DOS 6.22 when it's running under some other DOS (such as the one from
Windows 98)? I don't know. If and when he gets a working boot floppy for
MS-DOS 6.22, he indeed should use *it* to format the hard drive.Of course, another question is whether one cares to aid in piracy, which
may explain why some of our regulars aren't falling over themselves to
help out... Personally, I couldn't care less about that; and I find the
problem interesting. I can easily picture it arising after a meltdown in a
legitimate system where good backups of all the installation files are
available, but the original installation media and the emergency boot
floppy have both failed. It would be worthwhile to learn how to do this.
> The original poster's fundamental problem is that he downloaded
> MS-DOS 6.22 from somewhere on the Internet. The first disk *may* contain
> the correct files --- but however he made it, it isn't bootable.
>
> The key question here is how to make a *bootable* MS-DOS 6.22 floppy (or
> otherwise get MS-DOS 6.22 installed) when you have copies of all the
> installation files, but only a Win 98 boot floppy. Something has to write
> the boot record --- will any DOS command write a correct boot record for
> MS-DOS 6.22 when it's running under some other DOS (such as the one from
> Windows 98)? I don't know. If and when he gets a working boot floppy for
> MS-DOS 6.22, he indeed should use *it* to format the hard drive.
>
> Yes, I was formatting from the win98 disk with format c: /s. I
> had read somewhere to do that, but didn't realize that leaving the /s off
> would fix it. Anyway, Win3.11 is running fine (damn it looks weird). I'm
> used to recent windows versions, so I'll have to get used to it.
It is almost impossible to obtain such old OS install media via retail channels this days. Thankfully one can download the floppy disk images from sites like winworldpc.com. They host the DOS6.22 images, WFW3.11 images and many other legacy software. All one needs to do is write those images to actual floppy disks to install with a tool like RawWrite. This is technically illegal since legacy or not, these are proprietary Microsoft software but I doubt it will care about this.
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hi i am trying to figure out how to install windows 98 to the same hdd as i have windows 3.11 but to a different partition. the problem is that the win 98 installer always says that there already is another os installed. is there anny way to work around it ?
Windows 3.11 Bootable Floppy Edition Full Version
Download https://neuter-xperze.blogspot.com/?o=2wWz9O
What is the problem here? Do I manually have to add HDD and floppy in the bios? How is that even done if so? Or is something broken? Would be fun to try and get this working and perhaps get it to install windows 3.11 with some old games.
What is the problem here? Do I manually have to add HDD and floppy in the bios? How is that even done if so? Or is something broken? Would be fun to try and get this working and perhaps get it to install windows 3.11 with some old games.
OK so I've typed in the right numbers for my HDD and floppy, and the floppy seems to be working. What has changed about the HDD is that it no more says there is no bootable disk, but it says that there is no operating system now. And it says it in swedish which I find a bit odd if there is nothing on it, why would it say so in swedish? I'm
swedish but if there is nothing on the HDD wouldn't the computer just type everything out in English?
Is this your first DOS era computer? I think you need to read up on booting from a floppy disk. Then use a utility from floppy to troubleshoot your hard drive. If you have never had a DOS disk this might be a little tricky at first. But there are a few sites from where you can download a DOS diskette image and then use a piece of software to write out a bootable diskette to a USB floppy drive on your modern system. Of course you will need a USB floppy drive first.
In my case I have many DOS machines from many years ago so I already have many floppy diskettes and floppy drives. But by now floppies are ancient equipment and not many have them on their machines. But once you have a bootable DOS floppy you will be able to install Windows 95, or 3.11, to the hard drive.
I misplaced the original floppy that would have kicked off the Windows 3.11 CD-ROM install, so I tried using my Windows 98 boot floppy disk. It seemed to work OK. After I go through the Windows installation, reboot and try to launch Windows, the Windows for Workgroups 3.11 splash screen comes up and it starts cranking away, but it gives up and says "incorrect DOS version". This leads me to believe that the Windows 98 DOS is not recognized properly by Windows 3.11 because it is newer. Any suggestions?
here what i did .. i got the old hard drive that has system corrupted (which no longer can startup) i took ana image from it .. then i took an image from the new one ( he sent from germany) .. and i replaced all folder from the old one to the new one and when i get message to copy and replace i just say no ... so the old hard disk copied the missing files and folders to the new on .. and here we GOOOO ... it is working now and the software is up ... i told you guys i feel that man kept files or folders to force us buy new machine ... so the missing files are replaced now ... Thank you guys very very very much .... but i am still mad because i couldn't install windows 3.11 ... i wanted to beat my self in that ... but i can try on another machine tomorrow or in another time ....
That puts an absolute minimum bootable DOS on the hard drive: problem is,
the DOS that comes with Win98 isn't compatible with Windows 3.x --- and I
doubt DOS 6.22 is willing to install itself on top of that version.Did the site where you downloaded DOS 6.22 (*don't* repeat the URL here,
please) give any suggestion as to how to make the first disk bootable (as
the first disk from a real DOS installation set would be)?If so, you might want to try it.It's not clear to me if there is a way to make a bootable floppy for a
given version of DOS without access to a system that can already be booted
into that version of DOS. I can think of a couple of possibilities, but I
don't know if any of them will actually work.The following "brute force" method might be worth a try.Boot from your hard drive.Use:
md c:\dos622
path c:\dos622
to make a DOS directory and put it in your path.Put the first pseudo-DOS diskette in the floppy drive.If you set the system or hidden attributes on any files on that diskette,
you'll need to clear them; do this:
copy a:\attrib.exe c:\dos622
attrib -s a:*.*
attrib -h a:*.*
to remove those attributes from all files on the diskette.Use this command:
copy a:\*.* c:\dos622
to copy all the diskette's files to the hard drive.Put in a fresh floppy diskette.Use:
format a: /s
attrib -s a:*.*
attrib -h a:*.*
attrib -r a:*.*
del *.*
write a bootable floppy (which will, however, have the wrong boot files),
clear the system, hidden and read-only attributes from all files on the
floppy, and then delete all the files.Copy files to the new diskette, in this order:
copy c:\dos622\io.sys a:
copy c:\dos622\msdos.sys a:
copy c:\dos622\command.com a:
copy c:\dos622\*.* a:
(for the last command, answer NO when asked whether to replace files).Now, try to boot from the new diskette.If it won't boot, I don't know what to try next.
If it boots, but Setup complains about the version of DOS already on the
hard drive, boot from your Win98 boot disk again and "format c:" *without*
the "/s" switch; then boot from the new disk again.
--
Peace, Randy aka Coi... MindSpring.com
Pages at coises/ were updated 2 March 2001.
The original poster's fundamental problem is that he downloaded
MS-DOS 6.22 from somewhere on the Internet. The first disk *may* contain
the correct files --- but however he made it, it isn't bootable.The key question here is how to make a *bootable* MS-DOS 6.22 floppy (or
otherwise get MS-DOS 6.22 installed) when you have copies of all the
installation files, but only a Win 98 boot floppy. Something has to write
the boot record --- will any DOS command write a correct boot record for
MS-DOS 6.22 when it's running under some other DOS (such as the one from
Windows 98)? I don't know. If and when he gets a working boot floppy for
MS-DOS 6.22, he indeed should use *it* to format the hard drive.Of course, another question is whether one cares to aid in piracy, which
may explain why some of our regulars aren't falling over themselves to
help out... Personally, I couldn't care less about that; and I find the
problem interesting. I can easily picture it arising after a meltdown in a
legitimate system where good backups of all the installation files are
available, but the original installation media and the emergency boot
floppy have both failed. It would be worthwhile to learn how to do this.
> The original poster's fundamental problem is that he downloaded
> MS-DOS 6.22 from somewhere on the Internet. The first disk *may* contain
> the correct files --- but however he made it, it isn't bootable.
>
> The key question here is how to make a *bootable* MS-DOS 6.22 floppy (or
> otherwise get MS-DOS 6.22 installed) when you have copies of all the
> installation files, but only a Win 98 boot floppy. Something has to write
> the boot record --- will any DOS command write a correct boot record for
> MS-DOS 6.22 when it's running under some other DOS (such as the one from
> Windows 98)? I don't know. If and when he gets a working boot floppy for
> MS-DOS 6.22, he indeed should use *it* to format the hard drive.
>
> Yes, I was formatting from the win98 disk with format c: /s. I
> had read somewhere to do that, but didn't realize that leaving the /s off
> would fix it. Anyway, Win3.11 is running fine (damn it looks weird). I'm
> used to recent windows versions, so I'll have to get used to it.
It is almost impossible to obtain such old OS install media via retail channels this days. Thankfully one can download the floppy disk images from sites like winworldpc.com. They host the DOS6.22 images, WFW3.11 images and many other legacy software. All one needs to do is write those images to actual floppy disks to install with a tool like RawWrite. This is technically illegal since legacy or not, these are proprietary Microsoft software but I doubt it will care about this.
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