Blast from the Past : the SPI Infomercial
eddys...@hotmail.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNDe_JDew1E
A bit amateurish but some good ideas in there (no, not that
*everybody* smokes) but how to show an ongoing boardgame battle in a
movie and to stress the social factor
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
MMQ
wrote:
Wow, blast from the past. I owned practically every game they showed
in the film, but about 15 years ago I had to get rid of all my board
games. Filled a minivan full. Sigh.
Giftzwerg
5a9e87...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com
says...
Great vid. It's like a window onto a different world - and not *only*
the cigarettes.
But it's funny, I get the same nostalgic feeling with a lot of PC games
from little more than a decade ago. I recently dug STEEL PANTHERS out
of the attic and installed it on the laptop I keep for playing old(er)
games, and ...
... I once *liked* this game?
Ugh. It's like a laboratory to contain and study every pathology of un-
updated 70s era boardgames. COMBAT MISSION, for all its faults, is 10x
the game this ever was.
--
Giftzwerg
***
"[W]hat I can't wrap my head around is that it took the President four
days to acknowledge what he termed a 'catastrophic' national security
failure, but Cheney criticizes the administration's handling of the war
on terror and they have a rapid response on the White House blog in a
matter of hours? Priorities!"
- Mark Hemingway
Giftzwerg
@hotmail.com says...
> > A bit amateurish but some good ideas in there (no, not that
> > *everybody* smokes) but how to show an ongoing boardgame battle in a
> > movie and to stress the social factor
>
> Great vid. It's like a window onto a different world - and not *only*
> the cigarettes.
PS: 29.5 inches of snow here in The Great White North in the last 24
hours; the drifts were so high I had to dig a tunnel to the driver's
door of my car so Mrs. G. and I could go to brunch.
That's global warming for ya; practically gotta channel Bear Grylls just
to get to Trader Duke's for the buffet.
Ray O'Hara
"Giftzwerg" <giftzw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25aaa51444fc84389896e4@localhost...
> In article <MPG.25aa9ef433e9567c9896e3@localhost>, giftzwerg999
> @hotmail.com says...
>
>> > A bit amateurish but some good ideas in there (no, not that
>> > *everybody* smokes) but how to show an ongoing boardgame battle in a
>> > movie and to stress the social factor
>>
>> Great vid. It's like a window onto a different world - and not *only*
>> the cigarettes.
>
> PS: 29.5 inches of snow here in The Great White North in the last 24
> hours; the drifts were so high I had to dig a tunnel to the driver's
> door of my car so Mrs. G. and I could go to brunch.
>
> That's global warming for ya; practically gotta channel Bear Grylls just
> to get to Trader Duke's for the buffet.
>
It's winter. of course it snows.
the worlds mean tempeture is at its highest ever.
Vincenzo Beretta
day. And the gaming lounge is as cool as hell.
It is more than nostalgia: it put me in the mood for some counter pushing
NOW! :^D
[BTW, was it the hairstyle of the day or I actually spotted some girls
playing?]
Vincenzo Beretta
> hours; the drifts were so high I had to dig a tunnel to the driver's
> door of my car so Mrs. G. and I could go to brunch.
>
> That's global warming for ya; practically gotta channel Bear Grylls just
> to get to Trader Duke's for the buffet.
Uhm, *if* global warming is real, then a lowering of the average
temperatures in the Northern emisphere would be among the first signs.
Melting icecap cold water mixes with the warm waters coming North from the
tropics (via the Gulf Current, for example) lowering their mitigating
effects. Colder temperatures mean longer snow/ice persistence ---> higher
winter albedo ----> more sunlight reflected back into space.
There was an age when men reasoned by obvious cause ---> effect. For
example, if you burned sulfur and it produced toxic gasses, then obviously
you had awakened a demon living in sulfur. It totally made sense, and was
among the staples of an advanced science called Alchemy. Today, instead, we
live in an illogic world where people actually belive that a COLD can give
you a FEVER - one of the signs of human's increasing gullibility, according
to some.
Giftzwerg
rec...@hotmail.com says...
> > PS: 29.5 inches of snow here in The Great White North in the last 24
> > hours; the drifts were so high I had to dig a tunnel to the driver's
> > door of my car so Mrs. G. and I could go to brunch.
> >
> > That's global warming for ya; practically gotta channel Bear Grylls just
> > to get to Trader Duke's for the buffet.
>
> Uhm, *if* global warming is real, then a lowering of the average
> temperatures in the Northern emisphere would be among the first signs.
TRANSLATION: "Verily, our Holy Warmist Catechism is nonfalsifiable.
Hot temperatures == global warming. Cold temperatures == global
warming. Anything == global warming. Everything == global warming."
> There was an age when men reasoned by obvious cause ---> effect.
Nowadays, we have the upside-down, black-is-white, "heads we win, tails
you lose" logic of the warmist-alarmist. Every drought, every warm
spell, every heat wave, every hurricane is hysterically pointed to as
incontrovertible evidence that warmist-alarmist "science" is valid. But
a cold snap? Record snow? Record cold *and* record snow? Sorry,
world, that's even *better* evidence that the globe is about to boil
over.
Sorry, kiddo, but you can't get away with it.
eddys...@hotmail.com
> And with no-stop stop motion animations - something not cheap back in the
> day. And the gaming lounge is as cool as hell.
>
> It is more than nostalgia: it put me in the mood for some counter pushing
> NOW! :^D
The really un-funny thing is that most computer wargames these days
look like the stuff in the video, while current boardgames don't.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
eddys...@hotmail.com
> In article <a990n.75837$813.61...@tornado.fastwebnet.it>,
> reck...@hotmail.com says...
>
> > > PS: 29.5 inches of snow here in The Great White North in the last 24
> > > hours; the drifts were so high I had to dig a tunnel to the driver's
> > > door of my car so Mrs. G. and I could go to brunch.
>
> > > That's global warming for ya; practically gotta channel Bear Grylls just
> > > to get to Trader Duke's for the buffet.
>
> > Uhm, *if* global warming is real, then a lowering of the average
> > temperatures in the Northern emisphere would be among the first signs.
>
> TRANSLATION: "Verily, our Holy Warmist Catechism is nonfalsifiable.
> Hot temperatures == global warming. Cold temperatures == global
> warming. Anything == global warming. Everything == global warming."
>
> > There was an age when men reasoned by obvious cause ---> effect.
>
> Nowadays, we have the upside-down, black-is-white, "heads we win, tails
> you lose" logic of the warmist-alarmist. Every drought, every warm
> spell, every heat wave, every hurricane is hysterically pointed to as
> incontrovertible evidence that warmist-alarmist "science" is valid. But
> a cold snap? Record snow? Record cold *and* record snow? Sorry,
> world, that's even *better* evidence that the globe is about to boil
> over.
"If a calf is born with 3 heads, that is a sign.
If a calf is born with 2 heads, that is a sign.
If a perfectly normal calf is born, that for sure is a sign.
If no calf is born, that cannot be else than a sign." - D. Adams
"It's a sign! Everybody take off one shoe" - Life of Brian
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Giftzwerg
f41369...@f5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com
says...
> "If a calf is born with 3 heads, that is a sign.
> If a calf is born with 2 heads, that is a sign.
> If a perfectly normal calf is born, that for sure is a sign.
> If no calf is born, that cannot be else than a sign." - D. Adams
>
> "It's a sign! Everybody take off one shoe" - Life of Brian
***
Brian: "I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am *not* the
Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!"
Girl: "Only the true Messiah denies His divinity!"
Brian: "What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right,
I *am* the Messiah!"
Followers: "He is! He *is* the Messiah!!!"
***
Unfortunately, there's nobody in the Warmist Religion willing to
challenge the dogma of the Church ... even after it's clear that their
scriptures were first inscribed on Nigel Tufnel's napkin.
eddys...@hotmail.com
> Unfortunately, there's nobody in the Warmist Religion willing to
> challenge the dogma of the Church ... even after it's clear that their
> scriptures were first inscribed on Nigel Tufnel's napkin.
The dogma changed from "global warming" to "global climate change".
That's like having a dogma that says "water is wet" or "fire is
hot"
"Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any
positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to
allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular
solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it
with black soot or diverting arctic rivers.."
Newsweek, April 28 1975 - on how to avoid the oncoming Ice Age.
"The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports ... all point to a
radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard of high
temperatures in that part of the earth's surface.
Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never
before been noted. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf
Stream at 81 degrees north latitude and took soundings to a depth of
3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be
traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel.
Where formerly great masses of ice were found, there are now often
moraines, accumulations of earth and stone. At many points where
glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely
disappeared."
The Washington Post, November 1922
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Vincenzo Beretta
> Hot temperatures == global warming. Cold temperatures == global
> warming. Anything == global warming. Everything == global warming."
CORRECT TRANSLATION: "BWAAAAAH! IT'S COLD SO GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT TRUE!" is
just as naive.
> Nowadays, we have the upside-down, black-is-white, "heads we win, tails
> you lose" logic of the warmist-alarmist.
And still a cold brings you a fever. The amazing world of science :^D
> Every drought, every warm
> spell, every heat wave, every hurricane is hysterically pointed to as
> incontrovertible evidence that warmist-alarmist "science" is valid. But
> a cold snap? Record snow? Record cold *and* record snow? Sorry,
> world, that's even *better* evidence that the globe is about to boil
> over.
>
> Sorry, kiddo, but you can't get away with it.
Quick: is Earth cold or dry? I mean: does Earth has icecaps or deserts? Yup:
both. The fear with messing with the environment has nothing to do with
*one* end result, and a lot with the consequences of a messed up
environment. For humans, of course, since, as Ian Malcolm correctly points
out in "Jurassic Park", those screaming "save the Earth" actually look at
the problem only from an human point of view.
eddys...@hotmail.com
> The fear with messing with the environment has nothing to do with
> *one* end result, and a lot with the consequences of a messed up
> environment.
What messed up environment ?
Seriously.
For 4 centuries not a fish was reported in the local river, but
recently they've returned.
And thanks to everyone switching from coal for heating and power
generation to oil, gaz and nuclear the air hasn't been this clean in a
hundred years.
Dangerous pesticides - gone.
Local deforestation - stopped & reversed
See, those were all problems that a) demonstrably existed, b) were bad
for us and c) fixable and we fixed them. And I applaud that.
Now, the day they prove to me that there's a global warming problem -
and they're a long way from doing that - they still have to convince
me it's a bad thing. And once they succeed in doing that there's still
the hurdle of proving to me their solution is practical and will work.
But no, instead of using rational arguments and showing verifiable
data they insist on using emotional "arguments" like that poor little
ice bear "stranded" on a piece of ice which made the front page of the
NYT and local newspapers.
Never mind that the marine biologist who took that picture said the
scene was absolutely normal and the shot taken in August when there
are always little pieces of ice breaking off and floating around which
are being used by ice bears for napping.
The guys who tried to convince us that pesticides were bad never had
to resort to these kinds of "arguments" which leads me to believe that
these are the only "arguments" the Global Warmists have - in which
case they're either crackpots or crooks.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Giftzwerg
4e37e7...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com
says...
> > Unfortunately, there's nobody in the Warmist Religion willing to
> > challenge the dogma of the Church ... even after it's clear that their
> > scriptures were first inscribed on Nigel Tufnel's napkin.
> The dogma changed from "global warming" to "global climate change".
> That's like having a dogma that says "water is wet" or "fire is
> hot"
It's hard to sell a warming trend when things are clearly getting
colder.
It was comical over the last 48 hours; four big stories appeared in the
local paper about The Deadly Scourge Of Global Warming(TM) ... even as
an arctic blast of Canadian wind met the offshore moist air and dumped
the largest snowfall in recorded history on area readers.
The comments in the online section were "pithy" to say the least.
Giftzwerg
rec...@hotmail.com says...
> > TRANSLATION: "Verily, our Holy Warmist Catechism is nonfalsifiable.
> > Hot temperatures == global warming. Cold temperatures == global
> > warming. Anything == global warming. Everything == global warming."
>
> CORRECT TRANSLATION: "BWAAAAAH! IT'S COLD SO GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT TRUE!" is
> just as naive.
<sweeps all that away>
As I pointed out earlier, I no longer pay attention to graphs, charts,
timelines, or other so-called "evidence" as provided by either side. My
new position is simple and ruthlessly logical: I shall let those
learned experts warning me of a climate catastrophe *lead by their
example*.
That's right. I am *their* follower now. I toe *their* line.
So.
When Barack Obama goes on TV and says, "My fellow Americans, the damage
done to our climate by my 1,000,000 lbs. of jet airliner pouring poisons
into the atmosphere is unsustainable. I am, therefore, ordering it to
be dismantled," then I will follow his lead.
When Al Gore goes on TV and says, "The profligate squandering of
electricity at my luxury estate is unsustainable. I am, therefore,
having it torn down and moving to a small, 1,200 square-foot condo with
a composting toilet," then I shall follow his lead.
When Michael Moore goes on TV and says, "Guys, do you know how much
juice it takes to produce, promote, and distribute a feature film to the
whole world? Too much. Just not sustainable. I am, therefore,
retiring from filmmaking and becoming a humble salaryman," I shall
follow him.
In other words, when these celebrated journalists, politicians, and
opinion leaders - those very people telling me there's a looming
catastrophe - start making hard, hurtful sacrifices in their own lives,
then *and only then* am I going to grant any credence whatsoever to
their religion.
I promise, therefore - you have my utterly solumn oath - to produce no
more carbon than a former Vice-President of the United States.
That's fair, isn't it?
eddys...@hotmail.com
> In other words, when these celebrated journalists, politicians, and
> opinion leaders - those very people telling me there's a looming
> catastrophe - start making hard, hurtful sacrifices in their own lives,
> then *and only then* am I going to grant any credence whatsoever to
> their religion.
LOL
But … but … you’ve got it all *wrong* - see, it’s us little people
that have to make the sacrifices, not our Noble Leaders – in their
unending wisdom they know what’s good for us and if it weren’t for
that pesky thing called ‘elections’ they’d make us obey.
The real motto of all organized religions has always been : “just do
as I say, don't do as I do”
Why would anyone expect the Global Warmists to be any different ?
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Giftzwerg
50b196...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com
says...
> > In other words, when these celebrated journalists, politicians, and
> > opinion leaders - those very people telling me there's a looming
> > catastrophe - start making hard, hurtful sacrifices in their own lives,
> > then *and only then* am I going to grant any credence whatsoever to
> > their religion.
>
> LOL
>
> But but you ve got it all *wrong* - see, it s us little people
> that have to make the sacrifices, not our Noble Leaders
Ah, but I'm *already* making sacrifices Mr. Gore and Mr. Moore and Ms.
David haven't embraced ... yet. I refuse to travel via Gulfstream V
jet. I avoid lavish film festivals in foreign lands. And I long ago
eschewed living in a 45,000 square-foot Hollywood mansion. Nothing is
too good for Mother Earth!!!
That's my promise; I shall match my leaders sacrifice for sacrifice,
until Gaia is saved!
> in their
> unending wisdom they know what s good for us and if it weren t for
> that pesky thing called elections they d make us obey.
The problem these days is "global" bureaucrats and the sly willingness
of politicians to surrender *our* power to a nameless UN committee. As
Mark Steyn asks, "Where do we go to vote *them* out of office?"
> The real motto of all organized religions has always been : just do
> as I say, don't do as I do
>
> Why would anyone expect the Global Warmists to be any different ?
Which is why the first order of business for skeptics is to work
tirelessly to expose the fraud of "carbon offsets." That's a loophole
big enough to fly a *Luftflotte* of private jetliners through, and it
needs to be nipped in the bud. If carbon is really a pollutant, so we
want to sell *anyone* the right to needlessly poison us?
[And talk about giving the game away; if anything tells us Warmism is a
religion, it's the selling of Papal Indulgences to offset and allow
mortal sin.]
Briarroot
>
> Quick: is Earth cold or dry? I mean: does Earth has icecaps or deserts? Yup:
> both. The fear with messing with the environment has nothing to do with
> *one* end result, and a lot with the consequences of a messed up
> environment.
>
Yes, that *is* the problem! There is no such thing as a "global
temperature" in the first place, and numbers being bandied about that
are described as the "average global temperature" are essentially
meaningless. The data that scientists are using to track average global
temperatures, accumulated by studying geologic strata and Antarctic ice
cores among other things, are 'best guesses;' educated guesses no doubt,
but nonetheless based on conjecture and theoretical extrapolation. The
century-by-century chart of "average global temperatures" does show a
rising line with a slope of approximately 0.5 degrees Celsius over the
past 10,000 years; but the data points which describe that line vary
*widely* from the mean - and as I said, they're best guesses at most.
So when the alarmists claim that the "average global temperature" during
the 20th century rose an extra 0.2 degrees above the mean (or 0.3
degrees depending on which particular alarmist you're reading), no
rational conclusion is possible because nearly *all* the data points
vary from the mean! The next century might just as easily come in below
the mean.
Yes, the earth is warming. So what? We can't stop it, we can't control
it and I doubt that we can even slow it down because the forces at work
are *massive* and our capabilities to affect them are feeble. It has
already been demonstrated that the CO2 content of the atmosphere is
*not* a precursor of increased warming - rather the other way round -
therefore other factors must be more important. In sum, measures
designed to decrease CO2 emissions, if they're necessary at all, should
be adopted with other considerations in mind, such as conserving the
limited supply of fossil fuel rather than some idiotic attempt to
mitigate global warming.
> For humans, of course, since, as Ian Malcolm correctly points
> out in "Jurassic Park", those screaming "save the Earth" actually look at
> the problem only from an human point of view.
>
<rolls eyes> And just whose point of view do you suggest we consider
instead?
--
"The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule
it." - H.L. Mencken
" 'Going green' has turned into a vast industry in its own right - as
well as a religion with its own brand of zealotry. For many, global
warming is the secular equivalent of a biblical disaster sent by God to
punish humankind for its errant (capitalist) ways. Those who embrace
environmentalism as a faith have no interest in scientific and
technological solutions to climate change - such as nuclear power - that
do not include imposing drastic regulations on markets and curbs on
consumption." - Cathy Young, Reason Magazine
Dimensional Traveler
>
> Now, the day they prove to me that there's a global warming problem -
Just out of curiosity, what would prove global climate change to you?
--
"The Internet lied again!"
Giftzwerg
says...
> > Now, the day they prove to me that there's a global warming problem -
>
> Just out of curiosity, what would prove global climate change to you?
All the delegates to the recent Copenhagen festival giving up airline
travel, automobiles, and electric power as "unsustainable" to set a good
example for everyone to follow?
Of course, that wouldn't prove global warming, but it would at least
demonstrate that the Warmist / Alarmists actually believed there was a
crisis.
eddys...@hotmail.com
> The problem these days is "global" bureaucrats and the sly willingness
> of politicians to surrender *our* power to a nameless UN committee. As
> Mark Steyn asks, "Where do we go to vote *them* out of office?"
That's the #1 reason I want out of the EU : important decisions are
being taken by unelected bureaucrats and an inner circle of has-been
politicians promoted Europe. You know how many votes the current EU
'president' had the last time he stood for elections ? 31,000.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Global Warming
> It's hard to sell a warming trend when things are clearly getting
> colder.
>
> It was comical over the last 48 hours; four big stories appeared in the
> local paper about The Deadly Scourge Of Global Warming(TM) ... even as
> an arctic blast of Canadian wind met the offshore moist air and dumped
> the largest snowfall in recorded history on area readers.
>
> The comments in the online section were "pithy" to say the least.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/05/2785653.htm
http://www.news.com.au/national/the-second-hottest-year-on-record/story-e6frfkw0-1225816238751
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/science/earth/09climate.html?_r=2&ref=earth
eddys...@hotmail.com
> eddyster...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Now, the day they prove to me that there's a global warming problem -
>
> Just out of curiosity, what would prove global climate change to you?
Data. Verifiable, solid data
They don't have it.
The guys who got DDT banned proved through experiments it caused
cancer. Cancer is bad. Banning DDT solves the problem. Case closed.
But Global Warming ?
Cooked data. That island that is supposed to be almost flooded by
rising sea levels ? Totally debunked story. CO2 being a cause of
rising temperatures ? Total nonsense - we got a chemistry doctor in my
wargaming group - he compares that belief to a belief in a flat earth.
I can't help it but it doesn't take a lot of research to find such
huge holes in all the Warmist theories (which they proclaim are facts)
that my immediate reaction is "crooks or crackpots"
Ok, but if, by some miracle, true verifiable data can be produced that
the earth is warming up there's a second hurdle the Warmists have to
take : they've got to prove to me that's a bad thing. See, I know my
history and both the Roman times warm period and the Medieval one were
both highly *beneficial* to their respective societies. The medieval
one created a food surplus which turned a subsistence farming feudal
society into a city dwelling more free(ish) society. The brilliant
Dutch historian Huizinga wrote extensively about it, don't know if
it's available in English.
But say, they can somehow overcome that hurdle, there's a third :
provide me with a plan, a solution which will fix the ultimate cause
of the problem.
What I see happening today is that they're taking a shortcut and
instead of trying to take the first hurdle they're jumping straight to
the third and then come up with a hoot : "reduce human emitted CO2".
That's not science - it doesn't even come close - that's a religion -
so I'm gonna treat it like I treat every other organized religion :
ignore it, live and let live, but vigorously oppose the proponents of
that religion when they want to impose their religious rules on me.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Giftzwerg
global....@itsafact.com says...
Any of these detail where Barack Obama has decided to stop traveling in
a fleet of jet airliners?
They don't?
Excellent! Great news. Obviously the "problem" isn't worth discussing.
Giftzwerg
@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com says...
> > The problem these days is "global" bureaucrats and the sly willingness
> > of politicians to surrender *our* power to a nameless UN committee. As
> > Mark Steyn asks, "Where do we go to vote *them* out of office?"
>
> That's the #1 reason I want out of the EU : important decisions are
> being taken by unelected bureaucrats and an inner circle of has-been
> politicians promoted Europe. You know how many votes the current EU
> 'president' had the last time he stood for elections ? 31,000.
That's the #1 reason I want nothing to do with the UN, aka, The League
of Thugocracies.
Boozer
Do you guys deny evolution too?
eddys...@hotmail.com
> Do you guys deny evolution too?
Are you a counter-example ?
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Boozer
eddys...@hotmail.com
> On Jan 7, 12:45 pm, "eddyster...@hotmail.com"
>
> <eddyster...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 5:47 pm, Boozer <oleboo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Do you guys deny evolution too?
>
> > Are you a counter-example ?
>
>
Q.E.D.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Giftzwerg
aa5c04...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, oleb...@yahoo.com says...
> > > Do you guys deny evolution too?
> >
> > Are you a counter-example ?
> >
> > Greetz,
> >
> > Eddy Sterckx
>
> huh? counter-example? of what?
Apparently, he is a counter-example.
--
Giftzwerg
***
"Winter Could Be Worst in 25 Years for USA...
CHILL MAP...
Britain's big snow shuts cities...
GAS SUPPLIES RUNNING OUT IN UK...
Elderly burn books for warmth?
Army drafted to rescue 1,000 snow stranded motorists...
Vermont sets 'all-time record for one snowstorm'...
Iowa temps 'a solid 30 degrees below normal'...
Seoul buried in heaviest snowfall in 70 years...
Midwest Sees Near-Record Lows, Snow By The Foot...
Miami shivers from coldest weather in decade; Florida Gov Signs
Emergency Order ...
Cold snap spurs power rationing in China..."
- Global Warming News, Drudge Report
Boozer
> In article <e8c80092-961d-4bfc-9b75-
> aa5c041b1...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, oleboo...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > > > Do you guys deny evolution too?
>
> > > Are you a counter-example ?
>
> > > Greetz,
>
> > > Eddy Sterckx
>
> > huh? counter-example? of what?
>
> Apparently, he is a counter-example.
>
> --
> Giftzwerg
Wow, apparently I've been justly burned and put in my place by some
coservative lingo that doesn't require the use of full sentences. I
can hear the giggling from here. wtg.
eddys...@hotmail.com
> On Jan 7, 5:52 pm, Giftzwerg <giftzwerg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <e8c80092-961d-4bfc-9b75-
> > aa5c041b1...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, oleboo...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > > > > Do you guys deny evolution too?
>
> > > > Are you a counter-example ?
>
>
> > Apparently, he is a counter-example.
>
>
> coservative lingo that doesn't require the use of full sentences. I
> can hear the giggling from here. wtg.
You want a full text analysis ? I'm bored, so why not
Your first post ever in here :
"Do you guys deny evolution too?"
A sentence which could both mean "I deny evolution, are you guys with
me?" or "you guys don't believe in AGW, so you don't believe in
evolution as well"
As the second option is a bad syllogism no moderately intelligent
person would make, I gladly gave you the benefit of the doubt and went
for the first explanation.
The evolution theory, like any other scientific theory, can be
disproven by stating counter-examples. As your 1 sentence post didn't
actually provide a counter-example it was only natural for me to think
it was a meta-argument. In other words : that your very *existence*
disproved the evolution theory.
Not wanting to be rude in presuming you were living proof not all of
us evolved away from monkeys I therefore inquired :
"Are you a counter-example ?"
See, it could well be that you simply knew someone who'd make Darwin
scratch his head.
But you removed all doubt with your next post :
"huh? counter-example? of what?"
So my response was "Q.E.D." acknowledging the fact you've managed to
disprove the evolution theory simply by existing. Not a mean feat by
any measure.
If, as I suspect, you have trouble grasping the above you're more than
welcome to join George and Mario in the "special ed" class I've got
set up just for guys like you. Say hi to them from me will you ?
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
BP
<rec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Uhm, *if* global warming is real, then a lowering of the average
>temperatures in the Northern emisphere would be among the first signs.
>Melting icecap cold water mixes with the warm waters coming North from the
>tropics (via the Gulf Current, for example) lowering their mitigating
>effects. Colder temperatures mean longer snow/ice persistence ---> higher
>winter albedo ----> more sunlight reflected back into space.
So "global warming" will lead to a new Ice Age? Hmm...
Giftzwerg
8d3684...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, oleb...@yahoo.com says...
> > > > Eddy Sterckx
> >
> > > huh? counter-example? of what?
> >
> > Apparently, he is a counter-example.
> >
> > --
> > Giftzwerg
>
> Wow, apparently I've been justly burned and put in my place by some
> coservative lingo that doesn't require the use of full sentences. I
> can hear the giggling from here. wtg.
It's ironic on some level to see the un-word "coservative" crouching in
a paragraph that manages to bleat about "full sentences."
--
Giftzwerg
***
"I am less interested in passing out blame than I am in learning from
and correcting these mistakes to make us safer."
- President Barack Obama
"<laughter> I'll bet you are, particularly since you're to blame."
- Giftzwerg
Giftzwerg
re...@newsgroup.please says...
> >Uhm, *if* global warming is real, then a lowering of the average
> >temperatures in the Northern emisphere would be among the first signs.
> >Melting icecap cold water mixes with the warm waters coming North from the
> >tropics (via the Gulf Current, for example) lowering their mitigating
> >effects. Colder temperatures mean longer snow/ice persistence ---> higher
> >winter albedo ----> more sunlight reflected back into space.
>
> So "global warming" will lead to a new Ice Age? Hmm...
My favorite quote:
"If only there were some ... natural mechanism by which to explain
variations in global temperature. It would have to be massive, though.
On the scale of our own Sun."
- Ace of Spades
eddys...@hotmail.com
> In article <e3dfb9cf-0774-40a9-92f2-
> 4e37e7981...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, eddyster...@hotmail.com
> says...
>
> > > Unfortunately, there's nobody in the Warmist Religion willing to
> > > challenge the dogma of the Church ... even after it's clear that their
> > > scriptures were first inscribed on Nigel Tufnel's napkin.
> > That's like having a dogma that says "water is wet" or "fire is
> > hot"
>
> colder.
As predicted : the very first time (this decade) the term "Global
Cooling", with scientists predicting a new Ice Age, has hit the front
page of our main paper :
I've got this funny feeling that the "solution" our politicians will
find for this will involve massive taxes, useless conferences
liberally sprayed with champagne and plenty of hot air.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx