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Warlords Battlecry: I lost my saved games and heroes! HELP!

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richar...@hotmail.com

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Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
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I faced a situation where a campaign scenario I was working on got
unstable. I managed through the use of Norton Crashguard, to stabilize
things some and do save. Well, I pushed on. Eventually, it go so
unstable I have to do a warm reboot. Oh well, live and learn.

Well, now I am pissed off, because the game can't find my saved heroes
and campaign scenarios. All the work I did was lost. To make it
worse, a random scrimage map hero I was working on is also lost. All
the saved games are there, along with the heroes. The game doesn't
recognize they exist. I even tried to do a reinstall, thinking that
would help, and the same problem is there.

SSG, HELP! Do you have a fix for this? Needles to say, without a fix,
I don't feel like pressing on and restarting over again. I hope the
game isn't such that if a person does a reinstall of it to fix possible
problems with maybe a file getting corrupted, that all work would not
be accessable.

- Richard Hutnik

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Christoph Nahr

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Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:06:45 GMT, richar...@hotmail.com wrote:

>I faced a situation where a campaign scenario I was working on got
>unstable. I managed through the use of Norton Crashguard, to stabilize
>things some and do save. Well, I pushed on. Eventually, it go so
>unstable I have to do a warm reboot. Oh well, live and learn.

In my experience, Norton Crashguard *causes* crashes rather than
preventing them. Those "crash imminent, application unstable"
messages you get from CG tend to be bogus. Try uninstalling it and
see if your system is more stable without it. Mine was.

richar...@hotmail.com

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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In article <0b79oskvif2otg8ms...@4ax.com>,

christo...@uumail.de wrote:
> In my experience, Norton Crashguard *causes* crashes rather than
> preventing them. Those "crash imminent, application unstable"
> messages you get from CG tend to be bogus. Try uninstalling it and
> see if your system is more stable without it. Mine was.

I will not run it when I want to run a game. Now, if I can only
salvage my saved game. Ieee...

- Richard

Steve Fawkner

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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>
> SSG, HELP! Do you have a fix for this? Needles to say, without a fix,
> I don't feel like pressing on and restarting over again. I hope the
> game isn't such that if a person does a reinstall of it to fix possible
> problems with maybe a file getting corrupted, that all work would not
> be accessable.
>

Richard,
It sounds like a file on your PC became corrupted.
The files you will want to back up (if you re-install) are:
HERODATA.XCR - where skirmish heroes are kept
CAMPAIGNHEROES.XCR - where campaign heroes are kept
SAVEDGAMES directory
SCENARIO\xxxxx.scn - any scenarios you were working on

Unfortunately, if any of these files have become corrupted, there's little
we can do.

Hope this helps

Steve Fawkner
SSG


AMoore8740

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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Richard: Make sure your only running Systray & Explorer at your desktop. Free
up all those resources. I have had just a few dropouts so far (been playing for
about 2 weeks now) so it's been good to me. I sure I don't have to ask that all
your drivers are updated. Regards, Alex

richar...@hotmail.com

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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In article <iy3h5.16506$4p3.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,

"Steve Fawkner" <sfaw...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> Richard,
> It sounds like a file on your PC became corrupted.
> The files you will want to back up (if you re-install) are:
> HERODATA.XCR - where skirmish heroes are kept
> CAMPAIGNHEROES.XCR - where campaign heroes are kept
> SAVEDGAMES directory
> SCENARIO\xxxxx.scn - any scenarios you were working on
>
> Unfortunately, if any of these files have become corrupted, there's
little
> we can do.

I figured that happened. So, say I do a reinstall, that then means I
can't access my previously saved campaign games or heroes? Or, I had
the characters on another computer, I can import them onto a computer I
desire to have Battlecry on?

- Richard Hutnik

richar...@hotmail.com

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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In article <iy3h5.16506$4p3.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"Steve Fawkner" <sfaw...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> Richard,
> It sounds like a file on your PC became corrupted.
> The files you will want to back up (if you re-install) are:
> HERODATA.XCR - where skirmish heroes are kept
> CAMPAIGNHEROES.XCR - where campaign heroes are kept
> SAVEDGAMES directory
> SCENARIO\xxxxx.scn - any scenarios you were working on
>
> Unfortunately, if any of these files have become corrupted, there's
little
> we can do.
>

> Hope this helps
> Steve Fawkner
> SSG

Considering how fragile the save game system is in Battlecry, as much
as I like the game, I don't think I want it anymore. It is a damn
shame also. I spent a bulk of the limited free time I have working on
the game. I then find it was wasted, due to the game becoming unstable
on my system, for whatever reason. I think I am going to be getting
rid of it now, and will consider taking offers for it. I could trust
the game if its save system were more stable, but now I can't.

Anyone have any ideas on how one is supposed to back up the game so
that it doesn't screw up like this? Anyone else have a miracle fix?

Steve Fawkner

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>
> I figured that happened. So, say I do a reinstall, that then means I
> can't access my previously saved campaign games or heroes? Or, I had
> the characters on another computer, I can import them onto a computer I
> desire to have Battlecry on?
>

The HERODATA.XCR file and the CAMPAIGNHEROES.XCR file contain all the hero
data - they can be backed up, copied to other PC's... whatever you wish.
Unfortunately - that means they're only as stable as the file system they
live in - much like any data you might keep on your PC for any other
programs.

Steve Fawkner
SSG


Jeffery S. Jones

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:15:10 GMT, "Steve Fawkner"
<sfaw...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

>>
>> SSG, HELP! Do you have a fix for this? Needles to say, without a fix,
>> I don't feel like pressing on and restarting over again. I hope the
>> game isn't such that if a person does a reinstall of it to fix possible
>> problems with maybe a file getting corrupted, that all work would not
>> be accessable.
>>
>

>Richard,
>It sounds like a file on your PC became corrupted.
>The files you will want to back up (if you re-install) are:
> HERODATA.XCR - where skirmish heroes are kept
> CAMPAIGNHEROES.XCR - where campaign heroes are kept
> SAVEDGAMES directory
> SCENARIO\xxxxx.scn - any scenarios you were working on
>
>Unfortunately, if any of these files have become corrupted, there's little
>we can do.

Norton takes away (crashguard problems), but it also gives. You can
use Norton Unerase (from the trashcan right-click menu or otherwise),
and locate earlier versions of these files, from right before it
became corrupt, and recover them. It does recover in place --
replacing the existing files -- so back them up, in case you have some
which are good. Pick out those with the same modify time,
approximately, and hope you get a set which will work.
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Christoph Nahr

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On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:38:21 GMT, richar...@hotmail.com wrote:

>Anyone have any ideas on how one is supposed to back up the game so
>that it doesn't screw up like this? Anyone else have a miracle fix?

Well, if you really invest a lot of work in a game, such as building
up a hero, creating scenarios etc., you definitely should make backup
copies of the data. I'm backing up the save games for every RPG I
play, such as Deus Ex or Diablo 2. Of course, once you do make backup
copies, you'll never see another corrupted file. ;-)

Jeremy Reaban

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richar...@hotmail.com wrote in message
<8m3rvt$ocp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <iy3h5.16506$4p3.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
<snip>

>Considering how fragile the save game system is in Battlecry, as much
>as I like the game, I don't think I want it anymore. It is a damn
>shame also. I spent a bulk of the limited free
<snip>

Sheesh, what a crybaby. Like any other type of important data on a
computer, you should always back up save files for a game.

Chuck Smith

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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> I then find it was wasted, due to the game becoming unstable
> on my system, for whatever reason. I think I am going to be getting
> rid of it now, and will consider taking offers for it. I could trust
> the game if its save system were more stable, but now I can't.

Hi Richard. I'm interested in purchasing WB from you if you want to sell.
Let me know how much you want.

Chuck Smith
cas...@ksu.edu

richar...@hotmail.com

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Aug 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/1/00
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You are missing the point. My save game files are sitting there ok.
The files used to record which saved games are part of the game, has
one or more corrupted. The instructions don't give you a clue as to
which of these files are needed to keep your saved game system in
tact. So, for the first time I faced ever in a PC game, the game
crashes and prevents me from recovering games I have saved, and are
kept there.

It is this fragileness that I haven't run across that has killed my
interest in the game. Am I supposed to make a 500 meg backup of all
the files in the system, each time I play, so that I can replay the
game?

richar...@hotmail.com

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In article <Pofh5.17229$4p3.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,

"Steve Fawkner" <sfaw...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> The HERODATA.XCR file and the CAMPAIGNHEROES.XCR file contain all the
hero
> data - they can be backed up, copied to other PC's... whatever you
wish.
> Unfortunately - that means they're only as stable as the file system
they
> live in - much like any data you might keep on your PC for any other
> programs.

I am curious if you will have a utility out that lets a person port a
hero from one computer to another. Something like this utility might
be able to allow me to recover the heroes I have saved on the system.

Could a "cute" way for me to do a workaround here would be to rename my
hero a new hero I created an move the data to another file?

Just curious. Maybe I can try this out...

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